Harriet Hageman
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
It started before COVID, but COVID was a natural outcome of it. I would say it started with Woodrow Wilson thinking that the experts should control our lives. That was elevated under FDR with creating the administrative state. And then over the last 80 years, We've had a situation where we've allowed the bureaucracy to creep into areas that we never should have allowed it.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
So under our form of government, separation of powers, it's the legislative branch that legislates. But over time, we've allowed the executive branch to do that. But none of those people are accountable. The president may be because he is elected. But the bureaucrats, do you know who was the head of the EPA? Under Joe Biden, of course you didn't. Most people didn't.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
They're unaccountable because they're unelected. And as a result, they can do things and make really bad policies that are incredibly costly. Again, Deb Haaland, she was the head of the Department of Interior under Joe Biden. One day she was before our Natural Resource Committee, and I said, why is it that every single policy you adopt furthers energy poverty? Why do you want to do that?
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
She said, I've never heard that term. And I said, yeah, but I think that's pretty self-explanatory. You know what I'm talking about. The only answer she could give was, we're in a transition. And I said, that word is meaningless. What does that mean? What is a transition? This is the head of one of the most important agencies in the United States of America.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
And she cannot describe for me what they're doing or why with the policies that they're pursuing. That is an unelected bureaucrat. That's how we lost our freedoms and we lost control of our government. We need to be bringing that back. That's why I'm doing a lot of work in this space with reform of the administrative state.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
I am the chairman of the Article I Task Force, and the very purpose of this is to make sure that it is the legislative branch that is legislating, not people who are unaccountable to our voters.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
That's exactly right. And keep in mind the 16th and 17th amendments came about during that period of time. Being the one giving the federal government the authority to do an income tax. and then also basically excluding the state from government on the federal level by taking away our two senators being appointed by states and just being voted on by just like our congresses.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
That was never intended. The House of Representatives was to represent the people. The Senate was to represent the states. And then you have the executive branch that represented the executive branch, the president, the federal government. And when they changed that with that amendment, it fundamentally changed the relationship between the states and the federal government.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
Well, again, we as legislators, we need to become better as practitioners. So really, a lot of the power comes from what's called the Administrative Procedure Act that was adopted in 1946. And it has largely remained unchanged in the intervening 80 years. But it's under the Administrative Procedure Act that these agencies have adopted, have
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
have gotten the power for the rulemaking for example and it again is expanded in a way that is so far beyond even what FDR ever could have imagined. I'll give you an example of how these administrative agencies work to expand their own authority without Congress ever stepping in.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
And I'm going to say this, Congress has largely abdicated its responsibility for legislating, and that's what I'm fighting to bring back. We've got great people in the House right now, and we're all working towards that. Our senators are as well. I should say the Republicans are. We're working towards administrative reform, exactly what I'm talking about.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
But under the Clean Water Act, the EPA only has jurisdiction of navigable waters of the United States, right? Navigable waters of the United States, the Mississippi, the Missouri, those kinds of big bodies of water. I represented an irrigation or a farmer one time. who had moved an irrigation ditch on his property.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
The EPA came in and sued him, and they claimed that irrigation ditch was a navigable water of the United States, and he had to have a 404 permit to move that ditch. When we finally went to trial, that case took six years. When we finally went to trial, he was facing penalties of almost $65 million, because at that time, EPA could impose penalties of $37,500 a day. It's now up to $68,000 a day.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
Well, we as Congress have given that kind of power to an administrative agency Of course they're going to abuse it. They abuse it every day because it increases their power. It allows them more authority. It allows them to take control of more things. And so when you've got people in these agencies who really are anti-humanist, this is the way that they further their agenda.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
After a two-week trial, I won that lawsuit. But I had a jury of our peers, and I won that case. But my client spent a million dollars on attorney's fees and costs defending himself against a rogue agency. That's what we have to rein in and make sure never happens again.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
As an attorney, I've encountered the California Coastal Commission before. And again, that is one of those agencies that has become very totalitarian in its viewpoint of the world. And I'll go back again to these fires. Over 50% of the fires in Southern California are started either by arson or homeless, or maybe it's a combination of both.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
And I know that there's also some issues associated with fires related to power lines. But the fact is that what happened in November was largely a man-made disaster because they want the California Coastal Commission and the various so-called environmental agencies out there will not allow the clearing of the brush.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
Under the 2001 roadless rule that was put in place by Bill Clinton, denied access, management, and use to 58.5 million acres of National Forest Service lands. These are all really bad policies that end up destroying our environment And yet it's the environmentalists that push forward with them.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
But then we eventually have to pick up the pieces and then deal with the consequences of those terrible decisions. Because, again, they will not consider opportunity costs when they adopt these sweeping, sweeping, sweeping declarations of how they're going to allow us to use our property. It really does need to change.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
So one of the things that they've done is they've so corrupted the climate data that it's essentially unusable at this period in time. And most of their work is being done by the models, which is garbage in, garbage out. They're computer models. So what do I mean by destroying the climate data? They homogenize between two weather stations.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
So you might have a weather station that has a 100-year history of out in a field which has not been changed. And when they go gather that data, they can demonstrate, we can demonstrate that there's no trend line in that data. You're not seeing increased warming or decreased temperatures. What you're seeing is variability, which is called weather.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
But the stations that they manipulate, so let's say there was a station out east of Denver 40 years ago. Well, now we have DIA. That weather station may still exist, but it is now being affected by what's often referred to as the urban heat index or other types of development around that. So they need to adjust that data. But instead of adjusting the temperatures down to account for
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
all of this development in industrial activity around it, they actually increase the temperature using that data. So what they've done, and they talked about it in all of the emails with the East Anglian University, they manipulate the data. They're not using raw data and saying,
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
You can look at a weather station that has been unimpacted by man, essentially, and what you'll see is that there is no warming trend. What you'll see is variability called weather. So we know that they're manipulating the data. We know they're manipulating the temperature. NOAA has satellite data, temperature data. They won't share it. They also won't tell us how they're manipulating the data.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
It's a black box. They won't tell us how they make these adjustments. But if you watch their data, if you watch their ticker tape, if you will, you can watch it happen in real time. This is what they're doing. We are being manipulated to the tune of trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars worldwide. And much of it is based upon manipulated data.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
all of the above, and look at the money. Do you think that if I'm not a scientist, I'm an attorney, but you, let's say that you were going to publish a paper about how they've manipulated the data. Are you going to get a grant from the university or the EPA or the, there are so many agencies involved.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
We have politicized science.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
We have politicized science.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
Sure.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
No, that's just fine. And Brett Weinstein is a hero of mine. I think he's exposed a lot of very important machinations out there that we should all know about.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
It's wonderful to be with you, Dr. Drew.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
Well, I do have that history. I remember what was going on in the early 1970s. But one of the things that we did do is that we actually went in and cleaned up the rivers and the industrial sites. We all worked very, very hard at that. I'm not saying that I'm opposed to the Clean Air Act or the Clean Water Act. I'm not opposed to any of those things. I support the Endangered Species Act.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
I support the Federal Land Policy Management Act. I support those because they had a purpose and we have used them very effectively to to address the problems that we had with our streams and rivers and the air pollution that we had. But that's what my point is. We have the ability to innovate, and we've done that. And we've done an absolutely phenomenal job.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
And in doing so, we've also been able to provide energy at an incredibly affordable rate. And in doing that, we have increased life expectancy. We've decreased infant mortality rate. We have made innovations in the medical field, in curing cancer, in how do we treat osteoporosis.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
There are so many things that we've done, but we've done that because of affordable energy, and we've done that through innovation. What's happened with the more recent environmental movement is they want to take away all of the innovation and claiming we're destroying the environment. But once they take away the innovation, once they take away affordable energy, we don't get to innovate anymore.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
Go to a third world country and tell me how they take care of the environment because the fact is they don't. They can't afford to. They're just trying to feed their people and keep a roof over their heads. Look at the kind of respiratory problems that we have in Africa because we will not allow them to develop reliable electricity anymore. We forced them to cook over dung and wood.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
The challenge is that, Dr. Drew, I know that you know this, the health problems that they have in those countries are because we refuse to allow them to do what we have done, which is develop affordable and reliable energy.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
So what I look at is we're watching Germany deindustrialize right before our eyes. And they're doing it all in the name of climate change and global warming. And they're making their people miserable. And ultimately, it's going to crash their economy. And it's destroying their ability to produce the things that they need.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
So one of the things that I think the radical environmentalists have failed to recognize is that humans are part of the natural environment as well. And they want to exclude humans as being part of the baseline. But we are part of the baseline. We've existed here since the beginning of time. So when we're managing these resources, we have to be balancing the various interests.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
We have 1,000 grizzly bears in Wyoming. Our recovery goal was 500. We've had a recovered grizzly bear population for over two decades. We can't get the Fish and Wildlife Service to... delist the grizzly bear because by refusing to delist the grizzly bear, they control large swaths of land in Wyoming. In the meantime, it's been devastating to our elk population.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
It was an incredibly, incredible speech. It was full of hope, aspiration. It talked about a new renaissance in America. It was exciting to be there. And I think it was pretty sad, the display that the Democrats put on last night. And it was obvious that they had made the decision before they ever walked into the chambers that they were not going to clap, they were not going to stand.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
It's a huge risk to our farmers and our ranchers and our anglers and our hikers and our recreationists. So all of these things, when they try to pretend that humans are not part of the natural environment, then when they insert us, they say, and look at how you ruined everything. When in fact, we haven't ruined anything. We've made things better.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
They were not going to react positively to anything that the president said. And he said that at the very beginning. He said, you'll never clap for me. You'll never stand for me. You'll never do anything positive. And I do think it reflected on them very poorly.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
I believe that he is, and I look forward to working with him. Again, what we have to look at with all of this discussion is the balance. And it's a balance that is going to benefit everybody. It's going to ensure that we have the prosperity to protect our environment.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
And when you get out of balance, like Germany has, is when you see the destruction of your economy and your ability then to preserve what it is you claim to want to preserve.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
So really what you have to go back to is extremism doesn't help anybody. And when you start realizing what extremism is, it really opens your eyes very, very quickly. You've talked about COVID several times. They made huge mistakes at the very beginning by lying to us about the origin of it. Anybody with a lick of sense knew that it came from the Wuhan laboratory.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
That was not difficult to figure out. But we had our powers that be and our betters that were lying to us about those things. Well, then that undermines our trust in them with everything that they did after that. And I think that that's what's happening with someone like an RFK Jr.,
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
is that he's looking at, he was walking down this road and had been for decades, but he's smart enough and he's intelligent enough and he's discerning enough. And discernment is incredibly important. That is a skill or that is a character trait that we need more people to have discernment. He is discerning enough to recognize that he has been fed a line of
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on certain things, and he started questioning it and saying, you know, I really don't believe this. I'm going to find out more about it, and I'm going to surround myself with people, and I'm going to ask questions. One of the frustrations that I have when I'm doing my committee work in Congress is there are these bombs that are thrown at us all the time.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
Okay, I think that we should delist species that are fully recovered so that we can spend our money on recovering species that still need help. The first reaction is, you want to kill all wildlife? Well, no, I'm not trying to kill all wildlife. I want to focus on species that need it, not on species that are fully recovered and the states can manage.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
But that's the extremism that we deal with in politics anymore is there's no effort to say, hey, you know what? The grizzly bears recovered. I think everybody ought to come together. We'll get it delisted and we'll move on to the next one. That doesn't allow them to control large swaths of land and water. And that's why we have this battle that we do.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
But RFK is a discerning man and he's figured out a lot of stuff.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
I just think it's incredibly important that we have this kind of a venue to be able to talk about these issues because they are so important. I want to work with Benji. I want to work with the White House. I want to work with Democrats. I want to work with anybody to move our country forward, to make sure that we can maintain our prosperity. while also addressing these environmental issues.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
It's so critically important that we get this right, because right now we really are destroying our national forests. We're destroying large swaths of our BLM lands.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
There are so many things that we're doing because of mismanagement, because the regulatory agencies in Washington, D.C., lost their way many, many years ago and don't recognize that management is part of what they're supposed to be doing. As Benji says, they want to just... build a fence around it and say nobody can touch it from now until the end of time.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
That really is incredibly destructive to our environment. I also want to say oil and gas, coal, uranium, these are the energy of the future because they provide affordable energy and allow us to manage these resources in a way that really, again, is unrivaled in human history. We know what we've done with the Clean Water Act and the Clean Air Act.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
But the ESA, NEPA, we need reforms so that we can continue to do what we've done over time even better while at the same time feeding the masses and making sure that we have affordable housing and that we've got good conditions for people to live. That's one of the things we didn't even talk about. All of these things relate to the fact that our housing costs are absolutely off the charts.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
Because we're not allowed to use the resources right here in the United States. Most of our building supplies are being imported from Canada because we're watching our national forests burn to the ground. That makes no sense. It just doesn't make any sense. So we need permitting reform.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
We need to be approaching these issues with much more common sense and discernment than we have been for quite some time.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
I think it's very similar. And I watched that clip with great interest simply because I worked with Jay Bhattacharya during the middle of that. I was involved in one of the very first lawsuits in the United States that was filed against the vaccine mandates. I'm a person who believes very strong in freedom. And I also believe in the science of these things.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
And it was very clear to me early on that what we were being told related to COVID was dishonest and it was a mechanism to control the masses. And I think that you could look at climate change and global warming exactly the same way. It has evolved over the time from the 1970s to the 1980s to the 90s.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
And I read something the other day that I think is very important, which is you probably shouldn't put a deadline on Armageddon. And yet they have because they can't help themselves. All of the glaciers will be gone by 2012. And there will be no more ice. Antarctica will be gone by 2021.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
And you got to stop giving us a deadline because when they pass, we can all look at the predictions that were made and call them out for what they're saying. And climate change and global warming-
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
What's interesting is if there's a hole in the ozone layer, which is what we were being told in the 70s and 80s, and we were all going to die. If there's a hole in the ozone layer, you don't have the greenhouse gas effect that they're now- Exactly, exactly. Global warming and climate change. They keep switching it up, I guess, to keep us unsure as to where they're going to go next.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
What they ignore is the fact that we have the ability to innovate. And I think that that's the point you're making when you talk about being a time traveler. Whenever they make these predictions, they're essentially assuming that nothing is going to change in our ability to adapt to that particular situation. If you've got erosion, then you deal with it by building a cement wall.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
If you've got a situation where we have the catastrophic forest fires, which we actually do, but that's caused by bad forest management. then we can better manage those resources. Just like what we recently saw in California, the amount of carbon and particulates and toxins that went into the air as a result of that fire, humanity would not be responsible for over the next several hundred years.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
What you have to understand is, number one, we can adapt, but so does our climate, so does our environment, and we've done a dang good job of protecting our environment while, as you say, feeding the masses and improving our entire condition, improving our financial situation, improving our standard of living in ways unrivaled in human history.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
I don't believe in energy poverty. I believe that it is not the role of government to make people's lives miserable. And I'm just gonna tell you a very quick story about my mother. My mother is 101 years old. And when you think about how her life has changed over the last hundred years,
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When she was young, they would get up at 4 o'clock in the morning to milk the cows, they chopped the wood, they tended the garden, they canned the food, they worked in the field, they did all of those things, but it was more of a subsistence type of living.
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In 100 years, look at the homes we live in, the cars that we drive, the travel, our clothing, our jewelry, everything about us has changed so dramatically. The increase in life expectancy, the decrease in infant mortality rate, and every bit of that is because of the commercial production of affordable energy. Yet when we have these debates, nobody talks about the opportunity costs.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
So if we do away with affordable energy, what does that do in terms of increasing infant mortality rate? What does that do in terms of our lifestyle? What does that do in terms of our prosperity? Those opportunity costs are never addressed.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
And again, it's this idea of adaption and recognizing that we really can make decisions about how we take care of our environment and we can do it in an incredibly effective way without destroying everything that we have built up and created over the last 100 years.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
We lived in a house that we didn't have a telephone, we didn't have a TV most of the time growing up. We had a wood-burning stove and we would take big catalogs, Montgomery Ward catalogs, put them on the stove to warm them up at night, wrap them in fabric and take them to bed.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
Now, granted, I lived a little bit isolated because of where the ranch was in Wyoming, and a lot of people in my generation didn't have to live that way. But I'm telling you, as someone who did, as someone who grew up that way, I don't want to return to it. And yet that is what we push when we push this radical climate agenda that's really an anti-humanist view of the world.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
As I often say, you can either be a champion of abundance or you can be a lord of scarcity. I believe we should be champions of abundance. We should be looking at ways to innovate, to make sure that we can feed the masses, that we can provide the energy resources. I do not believe that, again, government should try to make people's lives miserable.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
Yet that's what the entire global warming and climate change crowd is about.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
But what you find in those countries that are ruled by dictators and despots is that they use natural resources and food as a weapon to control their people. Sudan is a classic example of that. Been in the throes of a civil war for years. What was one of the very first things that they did when they started having these intergovernment squabbles? They moved everybody off the farms.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
They urbanized them. They put them in refugee camps. Now, over 90 percent of the food that is consumed in Sudan is imported. So whenever they want to control the people, they shut off the food supply. And when you look throughout history, that's really what dictators do. Dictators use natural resources and access to natural resources, access to food. access to fuel to control the masses.
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
Now, is that an extreme example? Of course it is. But the point that I'm trying to make is our capitalism, the way that we produce things, the way that we innovate, the way that we solve problems can address these kinds of issues. Whereas we have a situation in California where Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
they're looking at oh my gosh there might be a one degree increase 100 years from now so we need to make everybody's life miserable today and take away property rights dictate what they can eat how they can travel what kind of vehicles they can drive that is not only not the american way it is so contrary to human nature and contrary to freedom
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Save The Earth (From Bad Politicians) w/ US Congresswoman Harriet Hageman & Benji Backer – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 463
that you can't even imagine people like this can get elected. It does not make sense in a country like ours when we show year after year and decade after decade that not only can we protect our environment, but we can produce things to elevate the human condition in a way that is unrivaled in human history. And look at how well we're doing it.