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Hanna Jamorlik

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Sword and Scale

Episode 292

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Not the same college. I went to FIU. Anastasia went to FAU.

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And it was a little bit later than I did. Then I pursued legal career. I went to NSU Law School, and she went to NSU as well. Well, actually, that was the same school, but a different college. Right. A different college. Okay.

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And since 2005, she stayed, and we lived together for some time. But then she moved out, but we still stayed close, and we still stayed friends.

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She worked at Trump Hotel, and he worked there as well. And that's how they met each other, and that's how they started dating. Okay. We hang out a lot. Then they got married. She got pregnant. And I was their friend. I mean, I wasn't Mark's friend, but I was Anastasia's friend, and I communicated with Mark a lot.

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Yeah, she was always at the computer. I mean, she enjoyed it. It's not like she had to do it. And she was a bright student when many students failed the exams. She passed them and with good grades. And she was very dedicated. She felt like this is what she wanted to do. She was enjoying it, even though she wasn't required to do some reading.

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She was just going through the books or reading some stories, materials, because this is what she liked.

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She was going to be a doctor. She was going to, for several years, she was studying and everything, and there were people, and he was a loser. I mean, he couldn't keep any job that he could get. Maybe because of his drug abuse, he was depressed. I mean, he lost every job as quickly as he got this job.

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And her parents were here. They were visiting Anastasia, and they were visiting them to see the child. I think he was high. He was under something. He didn't look like he was a typical Mark when he was sober. And he started yelling at the parents. Anastasia's mom said something, because he doesn't speak English.

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And she said something in Russian, but he misinterpreted it and thought that was something in English. Yeah, Mark doesn't speak Russian. Anastasia was trying to defuse the misunderstanding between her husband and parents. But Mark lost it, grabbed Anastasia and threw her on the bed.

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So after this incident, the parents left. The husband spoke to her. I mean, he was begging to take him back. He said it's not going to happen again. And I mean, she did take him back. I mean, I mean, she was in a very vulnerable state. She was without work. She was a student. She had a child. I mean, so I don't know. She probably believed that he can change.

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But after some period of time, it looked like he stopped or she convinced him to stop.

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I saw that the husband was very angry with her because she didn't want to hold his hand. She didn't want him to be there, but he wanted to be there. He felt like he's being rejected. He wanted her attention, and he was giving her a very hard time. He was insulting her. Basically, I mean, he brought her to tears, and that was a special day.

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Once we were going to Hard Rock, I mean, to have, like, some lunch and maybe, like, celebrate, she got afraid and she said that if we're not going to pick him up and take with us, I don't know what he's going to do to me at the house when I'm going to be back.

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And he was very aggressive. He was screaming and yelling and he was like very agitated and he was very angry. I mean, even I was scared of him.

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He was the one who started the conversation. Maybe we should get divorced. He started? He started. He started. And she was happy that he was the one who started the conversation. But again, from what I heard from the parents, he took his words back several days later. He changed his mind. But she didn't want to change. I mean, she was determined to get divorced.

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Her main concern was that she had a child. She was supposed to start working at the hospital. The schedule at the hospital is very specific. You have to be there early and, I mean, you finish very late. So she was very concerned who was going to be taking the kid to school and pick the kid back from school. So she was trying to maintain the friendly relationship with the mother-in-law and maybe...

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with the husband so that they in the future, even though she's going to divorce him and move out, they still can try and help her like in some way, maybe.

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Because, like, in the recent months, there was police call to her house many times. And she told me a lot about all the situations. During one of the situations, she was hiding in the closet because he was pursuing her in the house. There was one point in time, the recent time, when Nastasia had to, like, stand on her knees and beg him not to touch her because, I mean, he was raising her arm.

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Yeah, he saw some of the text messages, but they were very neutral. There was nothing romantic or nothing. One of the text messages said that my husband was arrested again. Online it says that the release date is December 1st. The text messages, of course, infuriated Mark. There was no way he could be in denial now.

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So, yeah, she would normally lock herself in the room, especially, like, during the night. The last couple of weeks or maybe a week that he asked her not to lock the door. That he convinced her that he would sleep on the kid's bed. He was, like, he was pressing. He was trying to convince her that he's not going to, like, give any trouble to her. And I don't know why, but she unlocked the door.

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She always thought that he's a coward. He's not capable of doing it in cold blood. She never thought that he would do it when she's asleep or the child is next to her. She was mistaken.

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She woke up in the middle of the night, and she saw him standing by her bed, looking at her. And she asked him, why are you here looking at me? And he said that I cannot... I can fall asleep.

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We tried to persuade her to move out of the house, and we said, why don't you divorce him? I mean, we're going to help you. We're going to, like, pull up paperwork together. We're going to help you. And she would say that I'm scared because I brought this issue up several times, and he always told me, if you're going to divorce me, you'll see what's going to happen.

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I think that he just couldn't accept the fact that she's going to be a successful doctor. She's going to move out of that house and she's going to leave him to live his miserable life with his mom because he knew he's going to have no future. He has no job. He had criminal history. And he just couldn't let it happen. I killed her.