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Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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And you put that in and it will come back and the array will show you like Trump's name and it'll show you the 2024 election and it'll show you assassination attempt, assassination attempt. It'll show you the possibilities around that particular query. Doesn't predict what will happen. It indicates consequences. and outcomes.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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It's almost as if we were given a map of quantum possibilities so that we can query. But here's, I wanted to just share the really good news that I've seen from this. During the Cold War, I queried, and I was studying this during the Cold War, right at the end of the Cold War. Cold War was over 89 and 90, and it was in the early 90s.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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It was the first time that Michael Drosnin wrote the book called The Bible Code. It was the first time with the Hebrew mathematicians. And if you query atomic holocaust data, That only comes up twice in the code and the years for both of those we've already passed. So it suggests that we are not... I'm not going to say you won't see a limited exchange. I think you may see...

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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a tactical nuke on the battlefield somewhere. But I don't think we're going to see mushroom clouds all over the horizon like they show in the movies. It showed 1983, 83 was the last year, according to the Torah codes, the Bible codes, that the word atomic holocaust comes up and it says, yeah, this is called the Torah codes or the Bible codes.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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It's commonly the Bible codes, but it's actually the Torah that's being, the first five books of the Old Testament.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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Are you familiar with the Bible? I mean, I don't want to be redundant.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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No, I've never heard of this before. Oh, okay. Well, I apologize. Okay. So let's start over. 1990, mid-1990s, a man named Michael Drozdan. Michael Drozdan, that's the name. Wrote a book called The Bible Codes. Right, right. And it was based on the work of Eli, a statistical mathematician who had published

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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in a peer-reviewed journal uh an article about what are called electronic letter sequences els sequences and so here's what put it on the map in the torah codes it said that the prime minister his name was yitzhak rabin would be assassinated at a certain time on a certain date by a man with a very precise name

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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They took this information to Yitzhak Rabin and said, look, if you do this speech on this day, 3000 year old book says you're going to be killed. So maybe you want to rethink. And he said, no, if it's in the Torah, it must be true.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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He went and gave his speech, and he was killed on the day, at the location, at the time of day, and the man's name was Amir, A-M-I-R, and that was all in the Torah codes. And that's what put it on the map. They said, how could this book have predicted that this was going to happen? So then the statisticians, they said, well, what if he hadn't? What if he had postponed? So they ran the query.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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You know, he talked on another day and the Torah codes came back and it said assassination delayed, indicating it still would have happened, but it would have happened maybe another time.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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I apologize because when you said you'd heard of it, I assumed that you were there.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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Oh, man, let's do this. Let's do this. This is so cool.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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Let's do this. This is so cool. This goes back about 400 years. Rabbis have always said that there are hidden codes in the Torah. They didn't have computers. They tried to figure it out by hand. And it's said by candlelight and lantern lights. And it's said that they went crazy trying to do this. Okay.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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So when computers came into vogue in the 90s, those same rabbis said, well, let's do this on a computer. So the idea, this is Gematria. Every letter of every ancient alphabet has always had a mysterious number associated with it. We don't know where they came from. They never change, always consistent. The study of Kabbalah, people know this.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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They often use the numbers and letters interchangeably in Kabbalah. So they took the Torah and converted the letters into their equivalent numeric representations and loaded that into the computers as an array. And then you can tell the computers, beginning with a certain letter, You can do what's called a skip code.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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You can say, if a skip code is 10, you start with a letter, and then you go 10, and then 10 letters down, and then that's the next code, and then 10 letters down, and that's the next. And what you find is an entire word. So, for example, in the book of Genesis...

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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The first T that you find, and I think it's, I believe it's a skip code of 10, is O, skip code of 10 R, skip code 10 H, and it actually says Torah. And they said, okay, well, what else is in there? So that's what makes you crazy doing it by hand. So what they did was a computer and you can determine what the skip, it can be a skip code of 50 or a skip code.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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Actually, the Torah may be a skip code of 50. I may have just done that wrong. I didn't know we were going to talk about this. I haven't done it for a while. You can determine the skip code, and what it will do, it will search horizontally, it will search vertically, and it will search at a diagonal. Yeah, there you go. I was just going to read my mind so you can see how these skip codes work.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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Okay. The key is it has to be entered in Hebrew. You have to enter the query in Hebrew. Okay. And where the information, so like, for example, the Twin Towers was in there. And it said that the planes would hit the Twin Towers. I mean, everything, everything.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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It doesn't predict. It shows relationships once you put them in there. So Harold Ganz was a CIA analyst who wanted to debunk this. So he said, let me do my- Harold Ganz. G-A-N-Z. He said, let me do my experiment. And there was a very famous experiment that he did where they entered the name of, I believe it was 32 rabbis. And they said, let's see if these 32 rabbis are in there.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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Well, not only were they in there, their birth dates were in there, the date of their death was in there, the location where they lived in the world, their city was in there. It exceeded what the analysts thought he was gonna debunk it. Now he's one of the strongest supporters of what was happening. So it's controversial. A lot of people don't believe it. It's a mystery.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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How could these things happen? Well, this opens the door to another conversation that we can't have today. But the conversation is if we are living in a simulation. I think you've probably had guests on that have talked about virtual realities and us living in the simulation. Have you had a guest talk about that?

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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If we are living in a digital, a virtual simulation, it makes sense that we would have a map of all the potentials within our simulation until the end of the cycle. what is believed that the Torah codes were given to the people of the earth 3,000 years ago as a map of potentials.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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When we make a choice, these are what you can expect as the outcome until the end, not the end of the world, but the end of time. The end of time is the end of the cycle. And then we begin a new cycle. And the code says that we are living the end of that cycle. And that's why so many things are converging right now.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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The 5,000-year cycles are... It comes from a lot of ancient tradition based on cosmology.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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The Mayans had one of the best representations, archaeological representations. So 25,000 years... is one precession of the equinoxes. And that's a lot of time. It's broken down. The Mayan calendar breaks it down into five subsections. If you bring up a Mayan calendar, I can show you. Bring up a good Mayan calendar on our screen, please. 2025 Mayan calendar. There it is.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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Which actually is not even Mayan. It's Aztec, but it's associated. Right. Let's see if we can do images, Mayan calendar. No, you don't have to do 2025.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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Yeah, just images, Mayan calendar. There. Oh, I see. And let's pick a good, any one.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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Do the one right there, right there in the center. Oh, yeah. On top. All right, and a large, okay, perfect. So what you're seeing, are you okay if I go into this a little bit? Of course, yeah, yeah. See the four boxes?

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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Okay, each of those represents one of the four previous cycles. Each one is 5,125 years. Okay. And then the circle is the fifth. Five times 5,125 years is approximately the 26,000 year cycle that we're living. Each of those has a glyph that represents how the cycle ended. In the past, one was through wind, one was great winds swept the earth and took everything away.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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One was ice, one was fire, and one was water. The most recent, the great flood that we see. Okay, those are four. The fifth one, the circle in the middle, When I asked the Mayan elders, that's this current cycle. And I asked them, how does this cycle end? What is that glyph? And they say, that is the glyph for movement. And I say, well, what kind of movement?

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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And does that mean like the earth moves or earthquakes? Or they said, we don't know. It could be a movement of people. It could be a movement of ideas, could be a movement A physical movement? We don't know. They said that the cycle will end with a great movement of some kind. So this is the Mayan representation, but this is only a piece.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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of a much, there is no single artifact that can encapsulate the complexity of the Mayan system of time. This is one piece of it. Right. Because they're interlocking cycles that between cosmological ages. It was so complex.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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Another podcast. So what we're looking at is when we look at the Torah codes, the experts, I mean, the jury is still out. It's very controversial. People that have worked with it, the information is there. There are people that want to debunk it. They say, how could it be? And I don't think we have it all figured out yet because it's only given us partial information.

Danny Jones Podcast

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But the information, the relationships it gives us are always right on. Let me just close it out, that piece, with one very beautiful thing. When you see something really dark in the Torah codes—

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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uh often nearby in what's called this statistically significant distance so it's not like way off somewhere it's close by is a phrase that says will you change it will you change it suggesting that we have uh that we are given the opportunity to determine whether or not these dark things will happen. Will you change it? The choices that we make. And I'm always encouraged when I see that.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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I think it's no accident that we've seen that. So that's the, I mean, there's a lot more we can talk about with the Torah codes, but that's a little piece of the big conversation.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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I led groups there from 1992 until 9-11. He's done everything. Every year, at least once a year, sometimes twice a year. Such a fascinating place that I want to go. I've never been, no. Well, we should do a field trip. Yeah, we should. We should do our big, fun podcast field trip from the road.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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I remember that book. I don't know the name, but I do remember that book.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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Well, it is based on such universal principles that it has many functions for that very reason, because of its harmonic relationship to the earth, to the energy on the earth, to the cosmos, right. Encoded into the pyramid, the dimensions, right. I mean, it's directly in the middle of all the land mass of the planet. I mean, you probably know all the stats that go with this. I was there in 1986.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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I was in Egypt and they gave permission at that time, they've never done this since, in the Great Pyramid to take a core sample from one of the casing stones, because the question is, how did they build this thing? How'd they get the stones up 430 feet, you know? And what they found was so controversial. It was published in the engineering journals. Not a lot of people want to talk about it.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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because at that time, a lot of new age, the harmonic convergence was happening, a lot of new age stuff. People talk about crystals, lasers, vibration, all of which is possible, but the evidence doesn't support any of that. What the evidence shows is that core sample in natural line, The casing stones, the outer stones were removed, mined to be used in buildings and mosques in Cairo.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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And there's only a couple of them left. They were beautiful, polished marble, white. So what we see today was never meant to be seen by the naked eye. It is limestone. natural limestone as a geologist, I can tell you, will have laminations, because the way it was deposited, it will have micro fossils. You know, tiny microbial forms of life, some kind of shell something in there.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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And what they found the core samples was done to that what they found was it was completely homogenous. there were insects, air bubbles, and human hair that they found in this core sample. Really? What they now believe... is that they were built, whoever built these used the technology that we're only starting to use today.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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And it was, they took the natural stone, pulverized it, mixed it with a matrix of an epoxy and poured the stones in place to get the high tolerances of less than a thousandth of an inch between the stones and to get the materials up high, they poured the stone. and it dried in place.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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And now they think the same thing happened in Peru at places like Ollantaytambo, Machu Picchu, the Coricancha, things like that. And it's a very different way of looking at the technology, but if that's the case, it's more advanced.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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The Cold War, the first Cold War, because we are now in a new Cold War, was probably one of the most frightening times in the history of our civilization. We came this far to doing the unthinkable, to releasing nuclear weapons on civilian populations. And if you look, there's no space in between my fingers because that's how close we came.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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If you see a picture of the pyramids, you're looking at the interior that was never meant to be seen by the naked eye.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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in greater rock strength and vice versa yeah but it's not talking about how it was built yeah no it's not they they published this in there's a core sample in the geologic journals uh and the geologists had no problem with it the historians had a huge problem with it and they also date it now as a geologist the the sphinx and the pyramids

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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The stones are showing erosion that is called fluvial erosion, which means fast amounts of water over long periods of time, not aeolian erosion, which means wind. They had believed that all that erosion was from wind. Robert Shock, Boston University, concluded with John Anthony West. I used to know John before he died. We took our groups over at the same time.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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I would talk for his group and he would come and talk to my group. Oh, that's amazing. It was a lot of fun. He was a good man. Had a hard time in Egypt.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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But during that time, it's in the early 90s, the only time they've had that kind of running water in Egypt was at the melting of the last ice, which puts this around 12,000 BP before present. And that means the Egyptians as we know them today are not the ones that built the Sphinx and the pyramids. And Geoloday published this article.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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double apg american association petroleum geologists they published geologists said hey what's the problem i mean the data is right there of course it's it's water um the historians have a horrible time they said oh my god it can't be 12 500 years because that messes up you know the whole timeline and so they're they're struggling with that today yeah it's also crazy how all around those pyramids i've seen i've never been there but i've seen photos all around there there's like giant pieces we need to take you on a trip

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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You see Tiwanaku on Bolivia, the Bolivian side of Lake Titicaca in Peru. You see very, that's very controversial. It's being dated around... between 50 and 20,000 BP before present. Yeah. So the question is, I mean, I think what we're finding, I mean, all of this is opening the door to a conversation that says, goes back to the beginning of our conversation.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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The button was actually pushed twice during the Cold War years and twice the technology failed for reasons that are still mysterious today.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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We're not who we've been told and we're much more than we've been led to believe. Okay. And we're beginning to understand that history. I think what's important now is that just as we're beginning to understand that history, we're being asked to deny our humanness.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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And within a very brief period of time, we're going to be encouraged to accept technology into our bodies, chemicals in our blood, definitely RFID chips. They're already being used in Sweden right now in the industry. There was an article in Extreme, a guy, I think he had 15... RFID chips in his body, and he was bragging. He says he's never felt freer.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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Because he can leave the house with no billfold, no credit card, no driver's license, and he can go to work. He puts part of his hand, and it reads, and he gets into the building. He goes to the bank. People don't understand what that RFID chip is doing to their biology and the thinking underlying that and the loss of human sovereignty when it comes to that. And these are all things to consider.

Danny Jones Podcast

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So I would never tell someone, attempt to convince or persuade anyone or tell them what to do or what not to do. I want people to be aware. of what it is that they're giving away. What does it mean to give away your humanness? And is it worth it to you to trade your humanness and your divinity for efficiency and speed of a computer chip? Or to relinquish the complexity of your immune system

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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1983 was the last time that that that the actually Soviet Union former Soviet Union was that the story of the guy that the Russian guy was in the submarine and they told him to they told that was that was on the net was another another story but what what happened was the tensions were so high and the paranoia was so high there was a

Danny Jones Podcast

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to the efficiency of a targeted chemical that knows how to go after one contagion at the expense of losing your ability to go after other contagions at other points in your life. Is that worth it to you? We're on the three hours and I'm going to close this.

Danny Jones Podcast

#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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I think what it all comes down to, I just want to acknowledge, first of all, we've covered a lot of ground and I appreciate your willingness to go there. And I appreciate our viewers. If you're still with us after three hours, thank you. I'm sure they are. All right. I'm acknowledging that much of what we talk about is a way different way of thinking. And I want to say it is for me as well.

Danny Jones Podcast

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In a rural community in northern New Mexico, conservative community, I was never taught to think this way. But I had to be honest with myself. As a scientist, does the science support the story that I was told and it did not? And so there's a big difference between taking the science and forcing it into a preexisting idea and allowing the science to lead to the new story that it tells.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And I had to make that choice in my life. I lost credibility as a scientist when I did that, and I don't care about that. I would rather be honest with the people of this world that I love and share what I believe the story is saying than preserve some kind of credibility in an academic environment that, in my opinion, is obsolete. So I'm just acknowledging that we've covered a lot of ground.

Danny Jones Podcast

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What I think it comes down to is love. And that's where I want to leave this, love. Do we love ourselves enough To accept the deep truth of what it means to be human and the responsibility that comes with acknowledging our potentials and our capacities and The choices that we make in our lives in the next five years are the answer to that question It's not a verbal answer

Danny Jones Podcast

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Do we choose to preserve the gift of our humanness or will we succumb to the indoctrination that tells us life is easier and it's safer if we give our humanness away to technology? And these are choices we all have to make.

Danny Jones Podcast

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What you think about, I mean, look at the events of the world and they're all designed to keep us spun up and occupied, spun up in fear. Which we were never meant to live in 24-7. Fear was a temporary condition to be remedied, not an experience to be preserved. And we're seeing the consequence of that in our health.

Danny Jones Podcast

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The inflammation, the disease, the anxiety, the depression, the fear for ourselves and our children. And the way out of all of that is to embrace fear.

Danny Jones Podcast

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our divinity yeah to to be the best version of ourselves and to do that we have to have the courage to look beyond what we're being told yeah not not to to discount all of it but to examine it look beyond think critically and and our young people are being conditioned away from that they're being told to recite what the authorities have told them rather than to think critically and say is this true totally greg thank you for your time man i really appreciate it

Danny Jones Podcast

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a flight, it was a Pan Am flight, the airline used to be called Pan Am. I mean, you can't make this stuff up. The flight number was 007, 007. In the 60s and 70s, that was the code for a secret agent program, 007. Everybody used to joke about it. That was the flight number for this plane. It strayed civilian craft strayed into Russian airspace.

Danny Jones Podcast

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I want to thank you. Great to meet you. It was a pleasure to meet you. Now, this is a good dry run, so now we can press the button and press record and we'll do the whole thing again, right?

Danny Jones Podcast

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The new book, the book is called Pure Human, The Hidden Truth of Our Divinity, Power, and Destiny. We have talked about portions of it. There's a lot we didn't talk about. Gregbraden.com, G-R-E-G-G, two G's, B-R-A-D-E-N.com. My mom did that on purpose. Gregory is one G, and I'm not a Gregory. I'm just two Gs, is Greg. Yeah, wherever books are sold.

Danny Jones Podcast

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You can go to Amazon, you can go to our website, wherever books are. The book is officially... Wow.

Danny Jones Podcast

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The book is officially released January 28th, but it's pre-selling very strongly right now. And I think they're going to run out the first print run. So people, if you want one soon, before January 28th. Amazing. I haven't seen that. Is this on my website?

Danny Jones Podcast

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My team did a beautiful job. I've got a beautiful team of very powerful women working behind the scenes to help me support all this. That's awesome, man.

Danny Jones Podcast

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That was the end. When was this? It was a couple of years ago. Wow. It was before COVID. That's wild. Yeah, it was wild. So for a lot of people, we tend to zero in on one facet of our relationship to the world. Sometimes you get really hung up in that one facet. Because we're trained to think that way, Danny. We're trained to compartmentalize our world.

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No. So as a senior computer systems designer during the Cold War years, my specialty was pattern recognition software. When the human genome was first published onto a computer network and we could see it for the first time, I immediately noticed there were patterns in our genome. It's not random. In 2004, I released a book that was the result of 20 years of research.

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of the message, the literal message that's encoded into the first layer of the DNA in every cell of every human body that literally translates into the words God eternal within the body. It literally reads God eternal within the body. And it reads God eternal within the body in the four root languages, cuneiform, Sanskrit, Arabic, and Hebrew.

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And it tells us that when we believe our differences are so great that we must hurt and destroy one another to solve our problems, we need look no further than the 50 trillion cells inside of every human body to remind us of who we are. We are God eternal within the body. It doesn't say who God is or where God came from.

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The God that is spelled out in the DNA of our bodies is the same that you see in those texts that we just talked about in the scrolls, the Gnostic texts. Wow.

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evolution we've been hearing about actually a massive culling which will leave only the enlightened and mentally sound humans left on you're asking my opinion the answer is absolutely no it is not something we're doing to ourselves this is something that's being imposed upon us by powers that are attempting to deceive us and veil the truth of our humanness from us It is a form of evolution.

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It is not natural evolution. It's an artificial evolution that is not good for humans. Cutting the CO2 down to 220 parts per million is not good for humans. Cooling their temperature is not good for humans. Inciting wars between the superpowers to deplete munitions and human capability is not good for us. Breaking the social bonds that have kept us as a society is not good for us.

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And the Russians, because they couldn't reach the plane 007, they were sure it was a spy plane, they shot it down. Killed all the civilians. One of the civilians was an American Congressman. So now they have just killed an American Congressman during the Cold War. They thought that because they took out our congressman, we were going to retaliate.

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All of these, when you put them together, the technology, replacing biology with technology is not good for us. When you put these together, they are all part of a concerted effort to remake technology. the earth and to remake our bodies and the human species into something that no longer serves us as humans. And the question is, who does it serve? That's another conversation.

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It is an expression, a deep expression of evil that is sweeping the earth in a very profound way. It always has. But between now and the year 2030, to remake us and our world into something that is not good for us.

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What I think we're seeing in real time is we're seeing the emergence of two parallel societies, right? We're seeing the emergence of one segment of our population that's all in on everything, on the technology, in the bodies, around them, all the gadgets, all the tools, RFID chips, chemicals, computers, everything.

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We're seeing another segment of our society that doesn't necessarily know everything that we're speaking about and doesn't necessarily have the vocabulary that we're using but they recognize that things are happening too fast. It's not good for us. They want to slow down and go back to the basics.

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And so those are the people I see in my little food co-op that are pulling their kids out of public schools to teach them their own family values. They're growing their own food. They're using medicinal herbs and traditional medicine to heal their bodies. And what I think we'll see, and this can't last long, I think we're gonna see these two parallel societies check each other out.

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And we're gonna say who's happier, who's healthier, whose lives are more fulfilled. And the answer to that question is going to be where we emerge. And my sense is there'll probably be a middle ground. I think we'll never let the technology go, but we don't have to incorporate into our bodies. We can allow the technology to serve us rather than enslave us. And that's what I see ultimately.

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And it only happens by us embracing our divinity, the truth of what it means to be human in our human capacities.

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That was it? That was the lightning round?

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And because of that, they thought that they should preempt us. And that was when they pushed that button. That's how crazy, how crazy this stuff is. And it didn't work. 1962. during the Cuban Missile Crisis. There was a movie that came out, it was called The Fog of War, and the former Secretary of Defense was a man named Robert McNamara, who has since passed.

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And he was being interviewed, first time in Cuba since the Missile Crisis, when he was Secretary of Defense. And the interviewer asked Fidel Castro, he was there with Castro, they were having a conversation through the translator. And the interviewer asked Castro, if you had had the nuclear missiles, would you have ever launched against America, knowing that America would destroy your country?

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And he answered. And the translator translated that answer. And McNamara said, this must be a mistranslation. He said, ask him again. And they asked him again and McNamara's face went white and he left the room.

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And he came back because it was the first time during that interview that he learned that Cuba had in fact received the nuclear missiles and that Castro had in fact pushed the button, knowing that his nation would be destroyed. He was so angry after the Bay of Pigs invasion and all the stuff that happened around that. That he was willing to risk that, and the technology failed for some reason.

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So these are very frightening times, and it was within that context that I found myself working in this industry. Let me just, I'll just tell you, because it wasn't by choice. I didn't wake up in the morning and say, hey, I want to go.

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War time is typically what pushes the technology because we have unlimited funding. and we have unlimited human resources. And they are given the license to push this tech as far as you can push it. It's an engineer's dream. So it was within that context that I found myself in this industry.

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And I've always believed that if we know where to look and we know how to look, that somewhere in our past, those who have come before us left us the clue To give us the reason to think differently so that we would never have the kinds of wars again that we're having in the 20th century. And I felt like it was worth devoting a lifetime to hopefully gain some insight.

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Maybe not the whole answer, but... but our ancestors left knowledge for us some of it were we're only beginning to understand some of it is is things that we've never seen before it wasn't science in the disciplined way that we see science today but it was knowledge in terms of us our relationship to the world uh and our own bodies and so by night i was doing that

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And what ended up happening, I would give seminars on the weekends, and I was working in these corporate positions as a senior computer software designer. And one day, our supervisor came in. And it was all mail, you know, cubicles. It was Air Force. We were working with the Air Force on this stuff.

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We break the world down in the world of science. I'm trained as a scientist, and I was trained to think in terms of geology and biology and chemistry and physics and Yeah, we do that to make it comfortable for us to study the world. But the truth is the world doesn't know about those boundaries.

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And he'd come in and he'd have a big soggy cigar in his mouth that couldn't be lit indoors, but he had it there anyway, you know. And he'd say, well, man, the good news is it's Friday. Only two working days left until Monday. And we knew when we heard that, it meant we were all working overtime.

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And I said, I can't, I have a room full of a thousand people waiting for a seminar they've already paid for. And I've already committed to that. And he said, son, you have to make a choice. Do you work for this company or are you working for those people? And that was my pivot point. So I left the corporations not long.

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There were other things that were happening, but I left the corporations not long after that and began doing full-time what I had been doing at nights and weekends part-time Within the context of a very frightening time in the history of the world, we are now in another one of those frightening times where there are forces, organizations, and beings who are pushing us to destroy ourselves.

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It's not good. What's happening is not good for humans. And we're barreling down the path as I speak to you today. This is a very delicate, very fragile time in the history of our world. And that's why I think it's good to have the conversation that we're about to have. So that was a long answer to a short question, but it wasn't like I...

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i had some deep near-death experience or spiritual awakening it was a logical progression and my i think the multi-disciplinary background in so many sciences has given me the the tools to stay on top of the new discoveries i mean discoveries they are coming so fast right now there are science journals for there's a journal named science there's another one named nature

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Peer-reviewed scientific journals every 30 days. So many discoveries are coming out in between those releases that they can't keep up. So now they release weekly newsletters to keep us informed of the discoveries until the end of the month, the big journal comes out. It's like the floodgates have been opened.

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When we begin thinking about, I mean, everything from the macro, the edge of the universe, to below the quantum level, to understanding genetics in our capacities.

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And where you really, really begin to take a deep dive and a deeper understanding of what this world is about is when you cross those traditional boundaries that have separated the sciences in the past. I've lost a lot of credibility doing that. The minute that I started talking about spiritual traditions as a scientist, my credibility went right out the door. And, you know, it's okay.

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Okay, so maybe this is how we're going to begin this conversation. How deep do you want to go?

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What you're calling that deep rot is, and I agree with you, Unless we recognize the context, it's very easy to get sucked into the drama of the individual rot, like a presidential election or like a war in Ukraine or whatever, financial collapse, banks collapse, you know. So let me just begin. And you can't make this stuff up. I'm going to go back.

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I'm a student of ancient texts, as I mentioned, and when I was a kid, one of the big mysteries was the Dead Sea Scrolls. Now, they were discovered, the first scrolls were discovered 1946-47 in Qumran. I know you've had experts on here that know way more than I do about this, so I apologize if I'm redundant to your… No, no, no, don't apologize. I don't know exactly what he said, so let me just…

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over this, the scrolls were first found in a cave in Qumran 46, 47. There are 11 caves. Actually, they're still discovering them. They're still 2023. They just discovered more fragments of the scrolls. There's a lot of fakes too. Another cave. Yeah, but there are caves that continue to excavate these caves. And they've found more. So you can't make this up. It was in cave number one.

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So the first cave and the first vase that they found, and these are not little bell jars. I mean, these are big clay vases. They're bigger than this. No, they're like this tall. And they were sealed. with tar and pitch, and that's what kept the scrolls in the dry desert environment.

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In the first cave, the first scroll that was pulled, the first vase that was pulled out, and the first scroll that came out of that is the reason that so many of the scrolls, for 45 years, there was a legal battle not to release the translations into the public. And it was not until the early 1990s. I was a member of something called BAR, Biblical Archaeology Society.

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I don't talk about it a lot because it doesn't come up, but it's relevant here. Herschel Shanks was the man that headed up the Biblical Archaeology Society, Archaeological Society, and he pushed and legally pushed archaeology. to have the translations released. The Vatican was pushing back, and there was a lot of political pushback, and he very courageously pushed to have these released.

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What could possibly be in the scrolls that are over 2,500 years old that would warrant holding them from the public for 45 years? And the answer was in that first scroll. So I'm going to say this, and it will be the context for everything we're going to talk about for the rest of this conversation. That scroll spells out very clearly. It's called the War Scroll, 19 columns.

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I'm going to get home late. My wife's going to have a meal for me, though. Oh, that's nice. She's going to have a meal for me. I think you are worth it, and I think this planet is worth it, and I think the people of this world are worth this conversation, and that's why... I felt it was important to have a conversation.

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When the first of our kind appeared, we were born into an ancient battle that continues to this day. And the very language, this is the exact language, is a battle between what is called the sons of darkness and the sons of light. I had a program recently, and I shared that, and there was a woman in the audience who was very offended because she thought it was sexist. Sexist?

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Because they didn't— Their sons? Because of sons. And what I want to say is that 2,500 years ago, sons included men and women. They didn't have the gender conversation going on that we've got going on right now. So we are living, these scrolls, are they ancient? Yes. Are they obsolete? No. We are living right now the battle between the sons of darkness and the sons of light.

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I'm not concerned about that because I'm not working in the corporations any longer. I don't need that kind of validation from my peers. Whatever time I have in this world, I think it's a healthy thing for us to do, to understand who we are and... our potential, what it means to be a human in this world, because we are now on the cusp, on the precipice of giving our humanness away to technology.

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And that battle is playing out in terms people are more familiar with in terms of what we call good and evil. Now the battle ebbs and flows throughout time.

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The reason that we're seeing the emphasis on so much evil in our lives, and there are different kinds of evil, and we can talk about that, is because we're barreling down this path toward a convergence point that has been identified as the year 2030. So 2030, United Nations has identified this. World Economic Forum has identified this date. There is an event.

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That will happen during that time and what you're seeing is the powers that be jockeying for position to be in the best place and Before we get to that point This is why you're seeing a concerted effort for the remaking of the world in a way that we've never seen before.

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And we could do this whole program on how the proposals are to remake the world through the UN Sustainable Goals, SDG 2030, the 17 goals, in partnership with the WEF. That's a whole conversation. What sets now apart from any other time, we've always had the ability to change our world. You mentioned this.

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Because the technology's advanced so quickly, we now have the ability not only to change the world around us, but now to change the world within us. And there's a concerted effort to replace our humanness with technology within these next—it's been going on, but we're going to see a doubling down on this— within the next five years, by the year 2030.

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What do you mean when you say replace our humanness? Replace our natural systems and our natural biology.

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Computer chips in the brain, RFID chips under the skin are already being used in a lot of European countries now. Chemicals in the blood to replace our natural biological functions, including our immune system. RF, not RF, nanobots circulating in the respiratory system. We have all of this technology now. And here's the thing, it's being marketed. I know it's happening and I'm still in awe.

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of how sexy the marketing is the way this stuff is being presented to young people especially or to to grown-ups to adults is that it makes life easier it makes it gives us more security if you got rfid chips in your body you can never get lost can't be trafficked all that's true What is the price that we're going to pay?

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At what price do we want to bring this efficiency and the speed of this information processing into our lives? So what we're asking is what do we give away when we give away our biology? And this is the reason, let me just, The battle between the sons of darkness and the sons of light. I'm going to use a word. I know we're covering a lot of ground. I'm going to bring it all together.

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I'm going to use a word that we haven't used. It means different things to different people. So let me use it and then I'll define it. It's a battle for our bodies, for our very humanness. because there is something within us that is so ancient and so beautiful and so powerful and so precious that nations will go to war against nations to keep us distracted from this essence of ourselves.

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And that's what the new book's all about. And I think that's where we're going to go today. But We do cover a lot of ground to make that point, but it's really one topic, one conversation, and it's about us. It's because we're absolutely not what we've been told, and we're so, so much more than we've ever been led to believe.

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Societies will be collapsed. Climate will be engineered. Pandemics will be unleashed. Lies will be told. All of those things are important, but they are distractions. They're diversions that are keeping us, keeping us from this essence, this force. The human body is the link to something that is called our divinity. Now divinity to many people, has something to do with religion.

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But the contemporary definition, you look up contemporary definition divinity, it simply is the ability to transcend perceived limitations, and that's it. Transcend means to become more than perceived, and I love this, it means we may be living limits in our lives that aren't even true, limits that we've been indoctrinated to accept through family, society, religion, culture, science.

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Those limits. So our ability to be the best version of ourselves is the goal limiting us from the ability to be the best version of ourselves, limiting us from the ability to heal our own bodies, limiting us. So what is divinity? Divinity is the part of us that's timeless, it's ageless. It's where our imagination begins. It's where our creativity begins. It's where our love begins.

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Sympathy, empathy, compassion, healing, all are functions of human divinity. If the powers that be want to change a world, we are much more vulnerable when we lose access to our divinity, when we lose access to our ability to heal our own bodies, to our ability to imagine and communicate what we're imagining and to create and innovate, all of those things. So there's a concerted effort right now.

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And I can share with you the science. What is it about our biology that actually links us to that divinity? We can get into that, but I just want to go through this step by step.

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It's even more than that. That's everything you're saying, yes. I lead groups. I just finished in 23. I finished my 48th, 49th tour in 47 years into Peru every year. And when I'm down there with my groups in the high Andes for a couple of weeks, and then we come back and we usually come back through a major population, either Miami or Dallas is how we come back.

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the world feels loud and heavy and and you have to really uh adapt to this world once you unplug from all that but but it goes beyond that and with your permission and i realize i'm talking a lot uh that's a good thing i want to have this conversation but look can i share an experiment it's a mind-blowing experiment and it illustrates why our body is so important and why our body

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is the target of the evil, and this is a form of evil. When we are prevented from accessing our divinity, that is a form of evil. Can you see where that would be?

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Divinity is a source of our imagination, creativity, our love, empathy, sympathy, compassion, healing, the very essence of our humanness. These are the values that we cherish, the characteristics that we cherish as a human.

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if those are veiled we're still alive but what kind of beings are robots if we have if and that is a form of biological evil there's psychological evil there's biological evil so let me share this so who's behind this let's let me share this experiment and and i think it'll make more sense When I show this to live audiences, it's a mind blower.

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So the Salk Institute did this particular experiment. It's been replicated by other organizations since then. So if we Google this, it may come up with some other organizations, but it was Northern California. The Salk Institute, what they did was they took human neurons separate from a body. So they put them in a Petri dish. So here's some cells in the Petri dish, not connected to a body.

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And they had a special computer chip where they could take, I think people are familiar, when you look at a neuron, it's got little dendrites, these little like tentacles that look like they're coming off the neuron. They were able to hook those into the port of a computer chip. So now you've got a machine cell interface.

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I've done History Channel, Discovery Channel. History Channel stuff like that.

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So you're actually, the neuron is actually connected to a special computer chip. All right. Wow. And, but it's not connected to a body. Okay, now they took this computer chip and they put it into a computer that was loaded with a primitive video game that came out in 1972 called Pong. I don't know if you remember.

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Pong, if our viewers aren't familiar with it, it was just a very primitive, like a tennis game. And I remember, I mean, it's so primitive compared to now because we're so sophisticated with this. But back then, it was the thing. I mean, people would spend hours playing this game. So here's what happened.

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Well, let me tell you how that happens. You know, you film or I film for one Discovery Channel special, for example, or History or PBS Nova or something like that. And they take that footage from that particular segment and they will slice that up. And then you'll see sections of that ending up in other segments. Other documentaries that they produce, I had no idea that I was going to be in those.

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They hooked the the chip into this machine load with pong these neurons began playing the game of pong and The longer they played the better they got they were learning So the question there's no human attached. How does a neuron in a petri dish know how to play the game of pong? the answer to that question is is why this conversation is so important.

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I don't know if that's the article, that may be an article.

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See, even they're missing the point. Because the question is, how does a cell even know to begin to respond, to play this game? Right. Okay, so here's the point. Here's the point they're missing. Where science has taken a big turn is we've always thought of our bodies as soft, sticky, gooey, wet, mushy cells and biological stuff.

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In recent years now, scientists are beginning to look at the human body from an IT perspective, information technology. And the discoveries are not being published in the biology texts. They're coming out in IEEE and these obscure engineering journals, the Journal of Advanced Computing Technology. That's where they're showing the study.

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I mean, my genre, people aren't reading them and I don't know about our viewers. So you're not seeing a lot of this stuff. Here is what they found. They literally are saying now that human DNA is a fractal antenna. What that means, fractal antenna, it's not just tuned to one thing, it is tuned to broad spectrum information across a vast array of bandwidths, okay? It's not just tuned to one.

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Human cells are also antenna, human neurons are also antenna. All right. The antenna in that petri dish, the instructions for the pong are not in the neurons. The neurons are the antenna, the biological antenna that tune to the place, the information in the field. that underlies all existence.

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The field that was revealed, CERN Superconducting Super Collider 2012 announced that there is a field underlying all existence. They now acknowledge that.

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Well, some people call it consciousness. It's information. It's a field of information. And now it's a very different way of thinking. And I got to tell you, this is not my training. I was not trained to think this way. I had... To cross traditional boundaries and open my mind to follow the data to where it's leading rather than trying to force the data into a preexisting story.

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All right. And that's important for all of us. So the neurons in the Petri dish. are in communication with a field. Pong was played by millions of people for so long. There is a vibratory essence held in that field.

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Some spiritual traditions call it the Akashic Records, or you call it the Matrix, or the Divine Matrix, or the Planck vibratory field, or the zero-point field, or whatever you want to call it. Depending on the application, people give it different names. The bottom line is that we are a field of, it's not out there. We are part of that field.

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And the neurons in that Petri dish are tuned to the place in the field where Pong lives. And the longer they play, that's how they are able to get better and better. The neurons in the Petri dish are tuned to Pong in the field. The neurons in our brain and in our heart, in the cells of our body are tuned to the field that holds our divinity.

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When our biology is replaced, we no longer have those antenna communicating with that part of the field and we become lost, we become frightened, we become fearful, and we become vulnerable to the control and the agendas of others. And this, I think,

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Sometimes they slice it up in a way that looks like I'm supporting something that I actually don't support. And so we have to be very discerning about how the information is used.

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you know there's so many ways to to go about this danny if if people are biblically inclined we've always heard that the body is the temple um first corinthians 3 i think it's 3 16. no no you not that your body is the temple of god that you you that god dwells within your body and people say yeah you know okay cool this is so interesting as an archaeologist studying ancient temples

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whether it's in the Middle East or it's in Asia or Greece or wherever, ancient temples, when they were built, they were always built in layers. And the innermost sanctum, the innermost room, was always the place where the greatest wisdom and the highest knowledge and the deepest secrets were kept. It was called the Holy of Holies in the temples.

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If we are a temple, we have not one holy of holies, but we have 50 trillion holy of holies because the nucleus of every cell holds the DNA that tunes us to our divinity. That is our holy of holies. Does that make sense? That makes a lot of sense.

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Yeah, well, there's an analogy that goes with that. And this is not for everyone, because a lot of people don't want to think this way, but if you are biblically inclined, we are a temple. And within the nucleus of every cell is the DNA that tunes us to our divinity. If you don't want to think that way, just think from IT, information technology.

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50 trillion cells in the average human body, every one of those cells Every one of those cells has an electrical potential, 0.07 volts, which is small, but you do the math, 50 trillion times 0.07, that's 3.5 billion volts of potential in one body. I mean, what if you could harness that and apply it to your own healing or to deep intuition or to super cognition, super memory, super learning?

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And we can, we can do all these things, but it doesn't stop there because every cell in the body I'm smiling because when I put these pictures in a live audience, I've got young people and I say young, you know, millennials or younger. Every cell in the body functions as a transistor and a resistor and a capacitor. And I put those on the screen and the kids, they're just like, what are those?

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And I said, well, these are what used to run our television's radios. I'm a musician. They used to run my guitar amplifier. You know, I'd be on stage at night and the back of the amp was open and we have these big, they're called 6L6 power tubes that glowed violet in the back. And it was just so beautiful to see. And they say, well, we've never seen that.

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The easy questions first, you know. You know, the way that question often comes about is, Greg, how did you make a quantum leap? What many people perceive as a quantum leap from the world of science and technology into what we're talking about now. And I guess for me, it was less of a leap and more of a progression. I mean, I... I was not a normal kid.

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And then I show them a microprocessor and they say, oh, we know what those are. And I said, well. Every one of these components is on that microprocessor, transistors, resistors, capacitors. And they go, oh, okay, okay, we're with you. So every cell in the body functions as a gated circuit. Information in, information out.

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It's massaged by resistors, transistors, capacitors, biologically within the body. Every cell receives light and we transmit light. Photons are coming in. We're transmitting. Light is information. We're pulling information in.

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It creates UV light. I bet our listeners are going to love this, our viewers. Every successful genetic transaction in human DNA is in the genome that we have today. It's preserved. It is transparent. If you know how to look at it, it's right there. It's not hidden. It is secure and it is immutable because it's distributed throughout the 8 billion people that live on the planet.

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And if those terms sound familiar, they are the basis for for the new financial decentralized finance that we are now that's now emerging in the world blockchain technology mimics blockchain technology mimics the way information is stored in the human genome that's why it's so successful

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Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, this is so all of that. I said this earlier and I knew we'd refer back to it. I have yet, Danny, to see any technology built in the world around us that doesn't mimic what we already do in our bodies. So gated circuits, transistors, resistors, capacitors, photon emitters, photon receivers. The DNA literally is a fractal antenna.

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And we can go on with this, but here's what I learned from being in the- What is a fractal antenna?

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A fractal antenna means that you're receiving information not from one isolated station that's fractal. So you're receiving many signals across a broad, many bandwidths across a broad spectrum of information. It's coming in all the time. So one of the things I learned, it's fascinating to me, is the more complex a system is behind the scenes, the simpler the user interface.

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I mean, look, you just picked up your phone or your iPad. You touch one place and you set into motion a whole cascade of events. You can pay your bills, talk to your friends, and all you did was touch it, touch a picture with your finger. That's a very simple user interface. Yeah. for a complex system, we're the same way. We are literally what is called soft technology.

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We're not the primitive hard technology of computer chips and wires and chemicals. We're more than that, we're human. We are cell membranes and neurons and ion potentials moving across cell walls. And here's the beauty, you don't have to know any of it because our user interface is the bottom line of our most ancient and cherished spiritual traditions.

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Thought, feeling, emotion, breath, focus, movement, nutrition. That's our user interface. And as we learn, also called epigenetic factors, as we learn to use this user interface, we awaken this soft, highly advanced, technologically sophisticated soft technology. And this is why there's a concerted effort to veil us from this extraordinary potential.

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And one of the ways of doing that is by replacing our biology with machines when we lose our

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Now looking back, I've been told that because I began studying ancient civilizations when I was four and five years old and the solar system. And I was blessed. My mom supported me. She didn't understand everything I was doing, but she supported me and she believed in me. And that became important later in life. And I'll talk to you about that.

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That's why we began the way we began. We are, gotta go back to the context. We are living a fundamental battle. between good and evil. A lot of people, when I was a kid, I was born and raised in Northern Missouri, rural Northern Missouri, back in the 50s. And we would talk about, and it was a joke. Good and evil was a joke.

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There's a little red devil that had horns and a pointy tail and a little angel here, and they were having this conversation. Evil is real. And it is deceptive in the way that it plays out. Because we are barreling down the path to this convergence point of 2030, evil is rearing its ugly head. And if you think that's not true, watch the music performance at the Grammys two years ago.

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Literally satanic rituals playing out. What was that? Under the guise of entertainment. Or if you saw the opening, closing ceremonies of the Olympics.

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What does the pale white horse of death on the river have to do with the greatest Olympians in the world coming together?

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But the point, they're not trying to hide it anymore. Because we are... And what they're now doing is the attempt... to replace our biology is being made to look like a good thing. We're being told, all you have to do is accept this in your body and you'll be safe. You will be more secure. Your life is gonna be easier.

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And people are exhausted because the world has exhausted them in these last few years. And they're just saying, make it better. Make it better. If I can go to the grocery store, do my banking, and now I pay for it with an RFID chip, which I've seen in my wrist. They run it over the scanner. They say I'm all in. Because no one...

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But she memorized all the planets of the solar systems with me and all the Egyptian kings and all the names of the dinosaurs, you know, and all of those things. So I knew I would... Probably be a scientist of some kind, but I didn't know exactly what that would look like.

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It was. It was a play on the Last Supper. Yeah. And it was a play on the Last Supper to denigrate the meaning of the Last Supper.

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If you're looking only at that, I would agree. Now you look at the context and where you can see where are the events that are being portrayed? Are they in support of life or do they deny life? And are they in support of our humanness or do they deny our humanness? And whatever the answer to that is, I mean, there's... This goes so deep. There's a concerted effort to remake our planet.

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There's a concerted effort to remake our society. There's a concerted effort to remake our very biology. And all of those are playing out at the same time and they're all being pushed as an agenda. by the year 2030. And who is pushing it? Who's behind it? Well, this is this is there are people who are prone to greed. And you say, well, people do it for greed and money. When you talk about

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the fundamental evil. They don't need money because they make the money. They don't need that money. This is a fundamental battle between the sons of darkness and the sons of light to deny life as we know it, to make this world into something that is not good for us. Let me give you an example. Climate change. I'm a geologist. Climate change is a fact. And I've been talking about it since 1979.

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Humans are not causing it. The studies clearly show the humans are not causing it.

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Okay. So what you're saying is that carbon dioxide is contributing to climate change, and that is the problem. You go back and you look at the ice course, and what you're going to see, you're going to see two things.

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The flip side of that is, I'll just share with you, you're asking the question, I'm the product of a very dysfunctional, abusive, alcoholic family. My father was the abuser. My mom and I have a younger brother, four years younger. My mom and my brother and I got the bad end of that. And he left when I was 10.

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There is, when we look at the Vostok ice cores and they show the relationship between carbon dioxide and the warming of the earth. What we find is the earth warms first and then the carbon dioxide levels rise after that. If the earth warms first, the carbon dioxide cannot be the cause of the earth warming. Really? Yep.

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Number one, number two, you go back and- And how do they determine that the earth is warming by looking at the ice courses? You can look, so when, okay. And let's talk about ice cores. So ice cores, every year there's a new, and I apologize, I just, I made an assumption that that's common knowledge because in some circles it is.

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Ice cores. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Every year.

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Well, every year there's a new layer of ice that is deposited on the ice caps, Antarctica, at the South Pole and Greenland and the North Pole. And when that ice forms, Danny, it captures little pockets of air.

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And from that air in the ice, and it's preserved in another layer, another layer, another layer. Right now, the deepest layers of the ice cores, to the best of my knowledge, are called Vostok, V-O-S-T-O-K, and they go back over Vostok Lake, a Russian-named lake under the ice. Right. They go back about 420,000 years. Okay, so drill down, and you can see every year what was happening.

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It was 420,000 years. So what does it tell you? It tells you the temperature of the Earth. It tells you how much methane was in the atmosphere, how much CO2 was in the atmosphere. It will tell you, and it'll tell you about the magnetic strength of the planet. And if you want to get into details of, I mean, the way they can do that, there are gas bubbles that are captured. There are sea life.

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There are certain forms of sea life called globigerina that their shells will actually, in the sea course, the shells will grow clockwise or counterclockwise depending upon the temperature of the water. I mean, there's all kinds of stuff.

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Yeah, yeah. You can tell the metals. You can tell about the magnetic strength of the earth. You can tell how strong the sun, all of those things. So the ice cores are showing us. A couple of things. First, they're showing that the temperatures rise, and I'll share with you why.

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That we're talking about. And what you will find, first of all, the temperatures rise. This is called the inconvenient data because it doesn't support the narrative.

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Temperatures rise first. There's a lag. And then the CO2 levels will rise. All right. And you can see that very clearly. Now you go back beyond that 420,000. Now let's go back in geologic time.

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And our family went through, the remaining members of our family, three of us went through a really hard time. Financially, I mean, we were more than... We lived in government-subsidized housing. We were more than broke. Lied about my age. In an early age, went to work in a copper mill, making union wages in northern Missouri. Wow.

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Well, but here's the thing. You can have high levels of CO2 and the temperatures are low. You can have low levels of CO2 and the temperatures are high. They're not necessarily correlated. Now, is this the most CO2 that the planet has ever had? Absolutely not. Right now, I think we're at 440 parts per million, I think is somewhere.

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Steve, would you check and see? I think it's 440 parts per million.

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Yeah, okay. So is that higher than it was 10 years, 15, 20? Yes, but here's the thing. You go back into geologic period, the Jurassic, the Cretaceous. Right, right. We had 1,000 parts per million and Earth was green and lush and life was thriving. 2,000 parts per million, Earth was green and lush. High CO2 is not a death sentence for the planet, but here's what it is, low CO2.

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If we drop below 180 parts per million, it's a death sentence for this planet. Now, let's do a little experiment. Let's do a thought experiment. I did this in January of 23.

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No, as a geologist, I said, okay, let's look at the proposed CO2 limits. Let's look at the proposed CO2 limits right now. If we were to meet all these limits, what would the Earth look like? They are proposing a reduction from 2010. I think they want about a 45% reduction. It brings us down to about 220 parts per million. All right, 180, 182 is considered a death sentence for our planet.

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When we reach that level, the forests begin to die. All right, and the temperatures are colder and the ice is greater in the Northern hemisphere. So CO2 is not like a little dial where you can like click it and say, well, we need to bump it up or bump it down. The level that they're pushing for is only 35 to 36 parts per million away from a really, really bad level for Earth.

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So I did an experiment. When was the last time Earth was at 220 parts per million CO2? Last time we saw that was a geologic time called the Pleistocene. The last ice age. All right. Pleistocene, low CO2, the forest died. They want to push our temperatures back. We're an average right now, I think 59 degrees Fahrenheit is a global average, give or take. Right now? Right now, global average.

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Oh, wow. And they want to push us back to about 46 degrees global average. If we make this planet, Dan, if we make this planet geologically like the Pleistocene, it's not good for us. Right. It's not good for humans. Would you agree with that? No, I totally agree with that. Okay, so let's put that aside. Now, look at what's happening on this week.

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And was really proud to be able to bring home a solid paycheck, you know, to help our family. I was a union job. Worked 4 p.m. to 4 a.m., but then I had to go to school the next morning. So it was... I learned to be a night person early, which has really helped me. It's really served me in my life. But the day my dad left, my mom didn't know exactly what that was going to mean.

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What is happening is the major powers of the earth are being provoked to destroy one another. They're being provoked to create war, to deplete weapons resources, to deplete munitions, to deplete human power.

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to deplete uh entire populations war is not good for us would you agree with that i would agree with that okay and you put that there now look at what's happening socially this is evil climatic evil this is evil uh uh uh conflict war is evil oh yeah okay now especially thermonuclear war now you look at what is happening there's a concerted effort to break the social bonds

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that have always held societies together. Now this is, it's really tricky the way it's happening because they're important topics, 2014.

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the occupy movement rich against the poor that's a real problem it is real we need to talk about it but here's the thing we need to talk about it in a kind way so that we can solve the problem become a better society for it it was weaponized to divide us rather than use to bring us together Then the same thing happened, men against women in the Me Too movement. Really important.

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We need to talk about these are real problems. It was weaponized to divide us, to break that social bond in our trust and our confidence. The same thing is now happening against Christians against Muslims, blacks against whites, Jews against Muslims, men against women, adults against children. Now it's the gender conversation.

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Every one of these is important, and everyone is being weaponized to divide us. We're breaking the social bonds. that have strengthened us as a society. Now they're going after religion. And when you have no social bonds left, when there's nothing left to trust, you become very vulnerable as a society to the ideas and the agendas of others.

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And you're seeing this concerted, you put this all together. I'm a systems thinker. A systems thinker looks at the big picture. and then goes to the nanosecond of where we fit into that big picture. The big picture is that we are all casualties of these systems that are being put into place that are not good for us. And so you have to say, if they're not good for humans, who are they good for?

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That's a whole conversation we can have. But the point is... Now the attack is on our very humanness to separate us from our own. The human is defined by our genetics. When we begin to give our biology away to technology, we give our humanness away. Humanness is the link to the divinity. We give away our ability for empathy, sympathy, compassion, love, all of these things.

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What kind of a society do we become? Ray Kurzweil,

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released his book earlier this year called the synchronicity yeah oh is that what's called the synchronicity synchronicity yeah and he i'm sorry the um not the synchronicity the um it's when every we become part of the internet of all things oh singularity singularity singularity i'm sorry yes so what he says is by the year and he identified 2030 he said when he talks to somebody in the street you won't be talking to a pure human

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You will be talking to someone who's a human machine hybrid to some degree.

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But by the year 20, because they don't know what they're giving away. Steve wants robot cops. They don't know what they're giving away. Steve wants the cops to be robots. I don't care about the cops out there. I don't want the technology in my body. Right, right, right. And this is the thing. I was just in LA and there's robot cars everywhere. I know, it's crazy.

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It was, they pulled up next to me and I waved and they didn't wave back. No, it's pretty wild.

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Yeah. Kurzweil says by the year 2045 is when we will all become part of the internet of all things, where all of our resources, all the animals of the earth are all digital. Everything we eat, everything that we consume, our bodies are all, unless there's a change in thinking. The purpose of this book is,

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But she knew we were going to have a hard time. And in her wisdom, I say her past tense, I lost mom in 20 to 21 to COVID, December of 20. So...

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pure human, was to identify that these things are happening, number one, for an awareness, hopefully to develop a deeper appreciation for what it means and even a pride for what it means to be a human. Because our humanness is being denigrated in our schools today. Young people are taught that we are flawed. From the moment we're born, we are flawed species and we need something outside of us.

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to be the best version of ourselves and to compete in the world. And that something is being touted as technology and young people are all in because no one has taught them that they are a rare, powerful, beautiful, precious form of life. That's not the result of random mutations over a long period of time. There's an intentional act in our genome that is very well documented

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with the fusions of chromosome two or chromosome number seven. These are not, they cannot happen in nature. There's an intentional act underlying all of these things, but nobody's telling our young people this. So unless we change our thinking, Yuval Harari just opened the WEF, and I think it was in 2022.

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He said, unless there's a change in thinking, we most probably are the last generation of pure humans that...

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the universe will ever know unless we exist somewhere else we're the last generation i think we're worth preserving i think we're about to give away our humanness and we don't even know what it means to be human we don't even know we're giving away because we're only beginning to understand what these capacities and these capabilities are all about so that's why i'm very passionate about the book uh and even if we weren't talking about the book i think it's important for us to recognize

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that evil has so many forms and they're subtle forms. So there are people who are predisposed psychologically to greed. into power, they're pawns. And they're not necessarily smart pawns, but these are the ones that we see publicly. And they are succumbing to the opportunity to indulge in their own vices, in their vice of power, their vice of control. But ultimately,

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This is, we're going to go right back. That scroll that I talked about, that we began talking about, it goes even further. It says there will be seven battles between the sons of darkness and the sons of light. Six will be won.

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the sons of light six by the sons of darkness i'm sorry three by the sons of light three by the sons of darkness that's only six the seventh battle it says the sons of light prevail but here's the catch they prevail with divine intervention and through their own divinity through us accepting our own power we prevail so what does this mean this isn't the kind that when you think about battles people think about the old idea where there's like force against force

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so in her wisdom of knowing that we were about to face some hard times she gave me a book the day my dad left and i know some of our viewers know this book very well maybe you do it's called the prophet by khalil gabran it is it's a classic it was um he was a lebanese poet early in the 20th century every chapter is like a page page and a half long but it's just right to the point

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That's obsolete. That's what keeps us stuck in the battle. We don't want to win this battle. We want to triumph. And triumph is different than winning. To triumph, it means we rise above. And how do you triumph in this battle? By becoming the best version of yourself. That's it. Living the best version of yourself. Where's your joy come from? And live it without fear. Love without fear. Imagine.

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Innovate. Create. Share your ideas. Forgive. Heal.

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your own body because that is our birthright this is how we triumph because when you do that you've defeated the evil that is trying to keep you from being the best version of yourself yeah totally that's that's what this the scariest thing is how this technological world that we're that we're living in that's developing more and more every day and silicon valley and all of these

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Yeah. This is a form of evil. The media is a form, I said, they're psychological evil. And we saw this play out during this. We see it play out all the time, but we saw it really emphasized in this last election here in the United States. By the way, this is year 2024. This is the first time in the history of the modern world, 40 nations voted.

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have had elections for new leaders in the same year really 40 nations steve can look that up i didn't even know that 40 and and they're all saying we want a new direction and i think that's the good news they're saying we don't like we don't like where this handful of people in positions of power are taking us because right yeah i mean i uh

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I think this is the 47th year I've done this work in one form or another. And I've been blessed. I've traveled and seen just the most beautiful, magnificent, isolated, pristine places in the world. and ancient peoples and modern peoples. And what I know is this, people, our brothers and sisters, we don't always like each other because of our cultures, but we do love one another.

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And there's something inherent within us. Even if you don't like someone, you'll go out of your way to save someone without even thinking about it. If you see them in a fire, you see a car wreck, see someone drowning, we're wired for love, not to like, but to love. And what I've learned is the people of the world know how to get along.

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It's not the people in Lima, Peru, and Beijing, China, bumping chest with Washington, D.C. It's a handful of leaders in positions of power, but the people know how to get along, and the people know... how to care for one another and how to raise their families. So this is all coming to this convergence point in these next five years.

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If the goals are met that are being proposed and the policies are already being written, the laws are being enacted, this is all formalized now. Because... By who? Well, the WEF. Yeah. You think Trump's going to put a stop to that stuff? The WEF began in 1971. And they've always had these elitist ideas. And they meet in Davos. That's cool.

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They can sit around and talk about what they think the world should be. And it affects no one. Here's where that changed. A lot of people don't know this. 2019, they formalized an agreement. They signed an agreement with the United Nations to use the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals, UN SDG 2030, to implement their ideas because they felt they were so closely aligned. UN SDG 2030.

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And there was one chapter in that book that stuck with me to this very day. It's at the bottom of every email that I send out. And it is a mantra that I use every single day. And what he said is that work is love made visible. Work is love made visible. If you're going to do something in the world, if you say yes to it, then do it. And do it really, really well.

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These are 17 Sustainable Development Goals. Steve can look them up. They look beautiful on the surface. If you read them, for example, who wouldn't want Who wouldn't want into poverty? Who wouldn't want into disease? Who wouldn't want those things? Now you read the fine print. How are they going to achieve those things? And this is where it gets really scary.

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Right now, the US is the problem. Because we are a nation that was founded on principles of divinity, the divine nature of human existence. And because of that, we have freedoms. I mean, we can do a whole program on that. Who was it that founded this nation, and where did those ideas come from? Will the Masons go back to the Templars, the Templars? Actually, Columbus was funded by the Templars.

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He was funded by Templars. Templars... They're kind of a mixed bag. But when you go, the Magna Carta, for example, was the first document that reflected any semblance of freedoms of people under government. And many of those ideas were then reflected from the masons in the Templar tradition in the Declaration of Independence.

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So of the 50, I think 56 people that signed the Declaration, 13 were Masons and they reflected that. And this is the point that America, the freedoms of America are a problem for this global vision. And so you're seeing a concerted effort to break America and it is having success in some respects.

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Yeah, yeah. And you're also seeing, I want to talk, can I talk about America? Of course. Just for a moment? Yeah. I love this country.

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the idea of this country and there isn't a difference between the idea and the implementation right now the implementation is flawed because it's been hijacked but the idea and this is my this isn't science this is now my personal opinion that i'm sharing i believe that uh it was the america was founded for this time in history because it is the only nation

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that was given the freedoms that allow us to transcend the oppression that's being proposed during this time in history. And here's what I mean by that. You know, I've traveled the world. I have a lot of friends that say, well, you know, what's so special about America? We can do the same thing in England. We can do the same thing in Australia, New Zealand, Canada that you guys do.

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Our government lets us do all the things that that you do. And that is shit go sideways. Well, this is Vegas nailed it right there. They said their government allows it. And what a lot of people don't understand is what sets America apart. And our young people are being taught America is trash. And they're being taught that we're flawed and to really disrespect the history that we have.

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It's insane. We failed our young people. We failed the whole generation. But what people don't understand is this. This is what sets the Declaration, one of the many things, but this is the primary factor, is that the word inalienable, a lot of times people miss what that means. Our government did not give us free speech.

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And our government didn't give us the right to bear arms and protect our families and our property. Our government didn't give those to us. They are inherent in our existence by virtue of us walking and breathing as humans in America. Those are in, that's what the word inalienable, it means it comes with being.

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Not from your fear of what happens if you don't and not from the anger of doing something you don't want to do. But change your thinking to make that your love made visible. Yeah. And that's a very different way of approaching work. I went to work in factories surrounded by people that really hated what they were doing and did the minimal they could do to get by.

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And this is the only nation That has spelled it out like that, and that is a problem. As long as we protect that, we have the legal means to preserve some semblance of freedom. And, of course, we all know those are under attack right now in the world economic form, interestingly. the most recent iteration in 2023. They see the biggest problem in the world is the inability to control information.

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He said the First Amendment is the problem.

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And he doesn't even know what he said. He doesn't even know how blatant.

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Yeah. But it was in his heart. This is what he truly believes. This is a fundamental battle between good and evil. Evil plays out in many... That is a non-kinetic form of evil. This is psychological evil. Let me just tell you about kinetic evil. I was... I was in a hotel room in London, October 7th, 2023, when the Nova Music Festival was under attack.

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America was asleep because of the time difference, eight hours for me, seven or eight hours. was getting ready to go on stage to present that live event and i was getting the news feeds in my hotel room the raw news feeds from asia uh india uh and the middle east raw footage of what was happening at that nova music festival and it was nothing short of pure evil

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I mean, worse than the World War II videos in Vietnam. I mean, it was horrible. Worse than horrible. I cried. I had a hard time going on stage. That night, I came back to my hotel to pick up the American news feeds. America was not allowed to see. To this day, America has not been allowed to see the truth of what happened on October 7th. Now, they've got reasons for it.

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They say, well, social media community guidelines won't let us show the images. The networks... The many networks that are owned by only six corporations, the agreement was made not to show America. So what was the result of that? On college campuses, people said there was a denial. They said, those atrocities never happened. If they had have happened, we would see them. Where are they?

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Show them to me. And so now you've got this divide that people say it was all made up. It never happened. They deny that any of that happened. And the people that actually lived

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Can I tell you a story about that? From home, I was doing a remote early morning talk show with a station in New York City, Commuter. I won't name the station. And the guy came on in the morning and it was 6 a.m. for me. It was 8 a.m. for him. No good morning. Welcome, Greg. Thanks for doing the show or nothing. He came on.

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you know what was it going on that that is pure evil and when i saw that unleashed i i said you know we're living this this rare precious moment it's not going to last forever you know we've just we're and we're going to get through all this we're going to get through all the tension we're seeing in the world you and i should come back and have a conversation we're going to get through it the question is danny and this is what i think if if we come at it from a spiritual perspective

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We're going to get through it. The question is, what do we become having gone through this? What do we allow the events of the world to make us into? Do we allow the events of the world to make us hate and to drive us to our most primal instincts of fear and revenge and hate? Or can we find a way to meet what the world is showing us and demonstrate our divine humanness? And this is the key.

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So one of my first jobs, for example, I would load from midnight to 6 a.m. on this particular job. We would load boxcars with 50-pound bags of Purina cat chow. Oh, wow. That's what it was. And those box to the trains would leave in the morning and distribute those wherever they had to go. And man, I was surrounded with guys just hated that job. And my body's always been really important to me.

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This is the key. It doesn't mean that we have to roll over and play dead, you know, for people that say bad things to us, because we all have to fight sometimes. And I think we may need to fight for our humanness. And I think we're worth fighting for. But here's the key. when we fight when we argue or if you're on a battlefield

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Are you fighting because of the hate and the fear for your enemy in front of you? Or are you fighting because of your love for the people and the families and the truth that you know is at your back? That is the spiritual battle between the sons of darkness and the sons of light. What does the world make us become? And the way that we...

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the way that we triumph is if we have to fight fight from our love of what we know is possible and the gift of our humanness rather from the anger and hate that just destroys us and you talk to any soldiers I've got friends, you know, special forces, they've devoted their whole lives and they've come home and they're broken. They say, what was the purpose of my life?

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And the purpose is that they were fighting the kinetic battle between the sons of darkness and the sons of light, good and evil. So this is one way of positioning it. I mean, there's a million ways to see it. But in the brief time that we have together, I wanted to give a framework, a context that The book is identifying that there is a concerted effort to replace our biology.

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And then all the new discoveries that are telling us we already are the technology that they're trying to replace us with, except we do it better.

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Can I just give an example? I mean, I said, can I give an example? Yeah. This is an amazing study that was done. So young people are being taught to idolize computer chips, artificial intelligence, because they're fast and efficient. And they are. Is a chip fast and efficient? Absolutely. But is it scalable? And here's the thing. You can never scale a computer chip

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it will always be limited by the physics of the stuff it's made of. Right. So if a silicon, if a chip's made out of silicon, not all of them are, but if it's a silicon chip, the atoms that make that silicon, the information's always going to be able to move so fast between those atoms. Now, is it fast, efficient? Yes. Scalable? It is finite in its scalability. Okay? And we know that.

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And we're actually reaching the limits of our computer chips right now through Moore's Law that says you double... The speed, you know, every so many years, well, the number of years is collapsing and the speed is increasing. And we're down now to that level where we're not going to be able to double that much more. Now you look at a human neuron. Is it fast? It is. What is its upper limit?

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And the truth is that we don't know because every time a neuron is pushed to what was believed to be a limit by scientists and medical experts in the textbooks, we do what humans do. Our neurons will morph and adapt And embrace that limit to be able to open an entirely new vista now of possibilities. And we do this again and again and again and again. What is the scalability?

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The upper limits of a human neuron, we appear to be infinite. This is a form, it's a very different way of thinking. Danny, it's what we call a soft technology. We are so advanced. Our engineers strive to create in a laboratory what we now are capable of doing in our bodies.

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So young people are being led to believe that a computer is better than a human brain, that our brains are flawed and weak and subject to all kinds of failure modes. So scientists did a little experiment What they did was they compared a human brain to a microprocessor. And the comparison, they compared the synapses within the brain to the transistors on the processor.

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And I said, you know, if I do this right, love made visible. If I do this right, if I lift this just right, man, these 50 pound bags, it's a really good quad workout. And then if I shift that and lift upper body, man, I'm going to have a good upper body workout. I'm going to work eight hours. I'm going to have a good workout. I'm going to get paid for it. It's a very different way of thinking.

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And what's interesting is that we have about the same number. I think the brain has about 10 to the 14th synapses and 10 to the 11th microprocessors. So it's pretty close. But here's what they found. When all was said and done, that the human brain is about 100-fold faster and more accurate than the processor, than the microprocessor is.

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The biological neurons were more efficient and they were faster. And part of that is because of the way the brain, we do triage of information. When that information comes in, we send it out to different parts of the brain in different brain states. Some of the information we may process in the alpha state, some of it we may process in a beta state.

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So it's a very different way of looking at the human body from an IT perspective. But the point is that we meet and in many cases exceed the capacities of the very technology that we're being encouraged to replace our bodies with. This is, uh, uh, something that nobody's telling, you know, our, our young people.

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I was a diver when I was at FIT. As an ocean sciences major, we had 30 weeks, three 10-week quarters rather than semesters of Navy-certified... And during that time, they were developing the liquid breathing apparatus so that humans can breathe at extreme depths without their lungs collapsing because of the external pressure.

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And it was all based on the idea that we derive oxygen in our mother's womb from liquid. In our mother's womb, we breathe the liquid. And now they were able to duplicate that with the right combination of nitrogen, oxygen, liquid. And you fill your lungs with a liquid. And then when you go to deep, deep, deep, deep diving... the pressure around you doesn't collapse. What? The tissues inside.

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But that ethic has been with me all of my life. And I... I had two experiences when I was 13. I went to my first rock concert, Jefferson Airplane, and the lead singer was a woman named Grace Slick and I sat on the front row and I yelled at Grace Slick and told her I loved her and she completely ignored me, completely blew me off. But here's what happened in that room.

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They did this? That was in the 70s. I don't know where it is now. Really? I can't see what he's doing.

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Can you scroll down? Well, I don't know officially. I don't know that they're acknowledging that. They were doing it back in the 70s. I don't know where it is now. I haven't kept up with the technology. Does it say that they're actually, are they offering it commercially?

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Well, the FDA just approved it. This 2023, the FDA approved Neuralink in humans. And this is, you know, Danny, this is one of those cases. And I go back this again and again. have been in the tech world most of my adult life in in the academic world because they're closely related uh i did not pursue my advanced degrees in academia because i was hired in the industry right to do the work and so

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I don't think it's something they're doing every day, but it is possible to do it. It has been done under laboratory conditions. And they were doing that back in the 70s. Wow. So the effort to try to replace our humanness with the technology, I mean, that's something that goes way back. Working in the industry, there's always been the question. There's always been two schools of thought.

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And during the Cold War, I mean, these were really heated discussions. One school of thought says just because we can do something means that we should. In other words, they say we would never have been led to figure this out if we weren't meant to do it, whatever it is, whether it's weapons or biology or, you know, whatever it is. The other school of thought says not so fast.

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Just because we can doesn't mean we should. And in many cases, what I've seen is the technology evolves faster than the morality of how we apply it in our lives. And I think we're seeing it now. The technology is moving so quickly. what gives us the right to replace the human body. And most people don't even, they don't even know why they shouldn't, you know.

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But what you're talking about, the chip, I mean, the technology can be a beautiful thing. There are examples of men and women, servicemen and women have lost arms and legs. Sometimes both arms or both legs.

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and they come home and what a beautiful thing to have a computer chip in the brain that communicates with the prosthetics that now allow them to hold their babies in their arms and brush their own teeth and feed themselves. I mean, we take those things for granted. That's a beautiful, oh man, a beautiful application of that technology. So it's not the technology, it's the thinking underlying it.

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The thinking that has been instilled into two generations at least of young people and now they're adults. and we're doing in our schools today, is that carbon-based life in general, and human life specifically, is a flawed form of life. And among our flaws are believed to be human emotion, which can cloud our logic and our decision-making and our judgment. That's considered to be a flaw.

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Human conception, sexual conception, because the truth is you never know what you're going to get. And so the technologists say, oh, well, we can fix that. We can fix that through gene editing. We can fix that... Designer babies. Designer babies, but now the babies don't even have to be inside of a mother's womb. Artificial wombs are now being developed.

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The most advanced that I've seen, they're expecting FDA to approve them within five years.

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Well, all of it is because the point of all of this is that when biology is based upon demand, there's an adage, in biology and we've all heard it, use it or lose it. Usually here for people getting older, if they don't use their muscles, if they don't use their sex, you know, sex life, those things, we lose those. That applies to replacing the human body with technology.

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There are 30,000 people in that little, this is a small stadium indoors. And I saw their souls being moved by what happened on that stage. Then we left and people wanted to have that feeling again, but they couldn't get it without having something outside of themselves to replicate the experience. In that period of time, it was a vinyl album or an eight track tape is what we were using.

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When we replace our natural biology with synthetic and artificial systems, our body believes that it no longer needs to perform those functions and they begin to atrophy in one generation. Next generation, through epigenetics,

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the body says, oh, you know, we used to do it that way, but we have chemicals to do it now for us, the immune system, for example, or, you know, the reproduction or something like, and pretty soon,

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within a generation those abilities begin to atrophy and become a vestige of something that we used to do and this is how you lose a species this is precisely how you lose a species we're we're on the cusp right now of giving our humanness away to technology and it's not like you can say well let's try it for a year and if it doesn't work you know we'll go back to what we used to be or try it for a generation though once it's gone it's gone and nobody's telling our young people that all they're being taught

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is that we are a flawed form, a weak, powerless victim of the world around us, a flawed form of life. Nobody's telling our young people how special and how precious human life and how beautiful a human life really, really is. And when you begin to understand divinity, not from a religious perspective, Our DNA is tuned. It's an antenna. It's picking up signals.

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And those signals are what give us life and love and healing.

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and our imagination and creativity and if you sever that signal what kind of a person are you you're still alive you're still breathing you're still functioning you have no empathy no sympathy do you part of the way warfare and i learned this during the cold war one of the reasons warfare works is because we play on the empathy of the other side

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assuming that the other side wants their family to live or wants to preserve their own bodies. If you take that away, now you have soldiers that have no divinity. They have no sense of self or purpose. They have only mission in mind. Our super soldier, yeah. What kind of a world is that?

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I mean, this is like the most dystopian of our scientific, you know, the horror movies that you see on sci-fi coming into reality. The Germans started this during World War II. They were actually trying to develop super soldiers. And there's a whole conversation we can have about that, how far they got, what happened to those doctors after the war.

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They were incorporated into the medical systems of the world and the medical systems that we rely upon today. So the thinking, it's all to support the idea. It's not the technology. It's the thinking underlying the technology. In a world where we're living a fundamental battle between good and evil. That's the context we have to go back to.

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We're being led to and being deceived to relinquish the gift of our humanness in exchange for efficiency and speed and technology without being told what the consequences are.

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really are what is it that we're giving away another example of this i mean this has happened long enough young kids they they're there are case studies of young people babies they get up in the morning eat their cap and crunch or cheerios or whatever it is for breakfast the parents sit them in the living room and put an ai visor on their head to entertain them so the parents can get some work done hours hours at a time

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Okay, so now what's happened to this kid? They're seeing images that they would never see in the backyard with their friends. They're hearing sounds. They're seeing colors, intense experiences. But here's the key. It's all being done for them. They're not using their imagination to create them.

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You know, you and I, I mean, I don't even know how old you are, but I bet when you were a kid, you used to take a... a blanket from the closet and drape it over a couple of chairs in the living room. And now you've got a tent in your living room. And now you're a tent that's an outpost on the surface of a far away planet.

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Not long after that, I had another opportunity to go to an outdoor stadium, 70,000 people, and there was a man named Billy Graham, an evangelist. So I wasn't so much into the message, but what I saw inspired me because he spoke to 70,000 people.

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And you wear your raincoat because it's a radiation coat that keeps you safe when you're exploring this planet. We're using our imagination. The young kids are not. And so here's what's happening. The psychology is showing this. Their brain size is stunted. Their cognitive development is stunted.

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their muscles have atrophied because they're not using their muscles and their body size, but there's a part of their brain that is enlarged, it's the visual cortex, because they're engaging that visual cortex With the AI, that's all they're doing is, and the same thing happens with people who've done a lot of ayahuasca. The plant medicine, you know, a few times is no big deal.

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Habitual use over a long period of time, what happens is the visual cortex begins to thicken. And it distorts the way that we perceive reality. Now, if you're a shaman in the jungle of Costa Rica who lives in the jungle of Costa Rica, that's no big deal. But if you're sitting behind a computer terminal writing the software for the nuclear triggers of a nation's nuclear arsenal...

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And doing ayahuasca recreationally hundreds of times with your friends on the weekend, it's going to impact your ability to function and to do those things properly. So, I mean, this is just examples of how when... imagination and creativity are replaced with the AI and things like that. It's not just passive entertainment. It actually is influencing.

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It's affecting the way these young kids are growing up. We have a whole generation that know only...

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Well, this is part of what is happening. We now have a generation. I think the millennials are the last generation. They bridged no mobile phones and mobile phones. The millennials remember a time when we had dial-up telephones.

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or early millennials but we now have a generation of people that only know the world through a mobile phone an ipad a computer and what i mean dating is happening on yeah through texting people are breaking up

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And when they left, they didn't need anything outside of them to hold the feeling because his words touched them in just the right way, that something inside of them changed the way they felt about themselves, and they were different when they left.

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over a text they'll have an emotional relationship and they'll break up on the text and that's it no conversation and the person the breakup e is devastated right the breakup er just is ready to to move on i i had an experience uh 20 i think it was it was before covet i took a group to peru And that year. And there were two people that traveled with us.

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And they're really sweet men, two beautiful, sweet men who had been friends for a long time, who both had kids, sons, who were within a year or two from one another. And they said, let's do this father and son thing. So each of the men came and they each brought one was 15, one was 16. They stopped in Miami because we flew out the next day and the kids went to the young men.

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I shouldn't call them kids, I apologize. They were young men. They went to a rave party the night before they left and both of their cell phones were stolen. They embarked on a two week journey in the Andes with no technology for the first time in their lives. And we got to see the withdrawals. We got to see it happen. First, they were very anxious, edgy. They became depressed.

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They slept in the mornings. They wouldn't get up to come out and see Machu Picchu and the sacred site. Well, at that time it was a sacred valley. So Ollantaytambo and the sacred sites. their fathers would go and they'd come home and they were just not communicating at all. It was well into the second week, something beautiful began to happen.

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And it's like they came out of this haze and they started communicating with each other, started communicating with their dad. They started getting in, really getting into the culture and the people and the food and having a great time.

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It was almost sad that we had to come home, we did. And then when they went home, I assume they got their phones, but now they had their phones and they had the reference point of knowing themselves in the absence of the phones. Now they have to make a choice. What kind of a man do I want to be? Do I want to be a slave to this? I don't have my phone here, but to this technology.

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And the whole group watched it happen. And we were, I mean, you know, we know it, but it's amazing when you actually see it, how much of an influence. This technology has on us. So this is not anti-tech. This is about hopefully developing a deeper appreciation for our humanness. And I like to take it a step further even, a sense of pride.

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And I recognized that at 13 years old. And I said, there's got to be a way, maybe to combine those. So I tried as a musician for a period of time early in my life and learned that I don't want to be a musician on the road. But the words, the words became very, very powerful to me.

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I'm proud to be a human because when you read the ancient texts and when you – there's a whole – another facet of this I'd like to go into. Yeah. There is something about us that is rare in this universe. It is precious. Can I share a couple of stories? Are you okay if I- Of course. Another perspective. And this isn't for everyone, but everyone learns differently. Everyone learns differently.

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So I'm going at this from a number of different ways. And somebody will pick up something that means something to them. There was a researcher, Harvard trained. He was the head of psychiatry at Harvard University. And I had the honor and the privilege of knowing and touring with him on the conference circuit. His name was John Mack. Oh, yeah. I'm very familiar with John Mack. Okay. So I knew John.

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We toured together before he was mysteriously killed. And there's a lot of uncertainty about precisely...

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He wasn't crossing the street. He was on the sidewalk. And the car left the street. He was on the sidewalk after the conference. He had dinner with friends at night. He was walking home at night. The car left the street, came up on the sidewalk, struck him down, and returned to the street. And he was conscious when they found him, and he died not long after that.

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He was the first scientist that gave credibility to the phenomenon of what we today call alien abduction. Now this has taken on a whole new meaning because of what's happening in Congress, the disclosure hearings are having about, do we have technology? Have we met these beings? Do we have in our possession all that? So this is in the 90s before all this was under wraps.

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And what John Mack did was he said, look, prior to that time, the scientific and the medical community said, these are just crazy people, schizophrenic.

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John Mack said, look, this is happening on every continent, in every culture, and it's been happening for hundreds of years. Let's look into this scientifically. If it is mental illness, we'll prove it.

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Well, that's exactly where I'm going. So one of the things he found across all the cultures and the countries and the language and everything, there were common themes. Not 100%, but there were these overlapping common themes. One of the themes plays into exactly and supports what we're talking about here. That's why I'm sharing it.

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One of the things people would ask as an abductee, I probably would as well, is why me? You know, why have you chosen me and what is it, you know, that you want me to know or what do I need to know? And one of the common themes was that these beings that did... the abducting, the abductors, were actually life from other worlds, advanced forms of life.

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And I knew that in an early age, in some way, I would use words to express my love made visible, my love for this world, my love for the people. of this world, and especially now, we're going through a really difficult time. It's a convergence of many cycles of change.

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And they are here, they said, because we're at a point in our evolution that they were in their evolution a long time ago, where they had to choose between biology and technology.

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they chose technology and they're sorry that they did that because they lost so much of their biology they lost the ability for emotion they lost the ability to conceive internally sexually it's all asexual and they want that back and they're warning us not to make the same choice so that's one category another one is really from really fascinating to me was not john mack

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But there was a study that was done. Not everyone fit into the John Mack category. There were a large number of people that revealed that the abductors are not aliens from another world, but they're us. That makes the most sense to me. From another time. They're us from our own future. These are humans coming back because we gave our humanness away to technology.

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They're the product of the loss of their humanness. They're warning us not to do it. And they're also want it back.

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Exactly, eggs, sperm, and DNA. They're thinking they can at least merge some of this back into their existence. Whether you believe either of them or not, some people are more drawn to one or the other, but they're both saying the same thing. There's something about us that's worth preserving. There's something about us. And that this isn't going to go on for decades.

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We're at this like, I mean, this is within the next year, Two years, three years, certainly five years between now and 2030. If we give our humanness away, we can never go back. And they are inviting us or warning us not to do that from two very, very different perspectives.

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If you look at all the living species on Earth... They were Earth, from humans, from Earth. Exactly. Where'd you come from?

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It doesn't last forever, but it's a rare and precious moment in the history of our planet when we have the opportunity to make choices and decisions that will forever determine our lives and our fate or our destiny. And that's our choice, destiny of living our potential or our fate of succumbing to the darkness, to the fear that we have. And I recognize that at an early age.

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Scientists say when the odds of something occurring are one in 10 to the 400th power, that is considered impossible. So if we go down to 7-Eleven and get a lottery ticket and they say one in 10 to the 400th, you might as well forget it. The odds of our genome forming the way it has formed, and I want to talk about how it formed, but the odds of that happening are one in 10 to the 600th.

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So if one in 10 to the 400th is impossible, 1 in 10 to the 600th means it's more than impossible that we are the product of random processes, lucky biology. That there is, and as a scientist, I have to say the evidence supports, not just suggests, it supports there's an intentionality underlying our existence. That intentionality may be the link to the beings from other worlds.

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Higher intelligence, and in our ancient texts, there are different ways of looking at that. Are we talking about gods? Are we talking about angels? Are we talking about Nephilim? That's a whole conversation. The point, higher intelligence intervened, and we know this. Now, I want to be really clear. Are you okay if we have this conversation, this part? Do we have time?

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So, as a geologist, I believe in evolution. So I'm not anti-evolution. I've seen it in the fossil record when I did my field work. I saw it for plants, insects, animals. Darwin's theory of evolution breaks down when it comes to humans. We showed up mysteriously 200,000 years ago, and we don't know where we came from. What we do know, now that we have, we can do what's called forensic DNA.

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And this is only within the last few years. We can look at our genome and look backwards, reverse engineer what had to happen to give us our humanness. For me, the smoking gun, there are a couple, but I think the one that is the most outstanding and probably the most controversial is human chromosome number two. And I write about this in the new book.

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What we know, so human chromosome two, it's the second largest chromosome in our nucleus. It's a big, long chromosome. It has about 1,200 genes, and I won't go through all of them, but a couple, I mean, even one, gene TBR1, TBR1, is responsible for the neocortex in the human brain. I mean, that is where our humanness comes from, empathy, sympathy, compassion.

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So my first degree is a nurse scientist. I'm a degree geologist. It gave me a strong background in life sciences as well, biology. Actually, we're here in Florida. I went to school at FIT over in- Oh, really?

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It is where our logic capabilities, where the mirror neurons that we use for learning, they're all contained in that neocortex. It is where, I mean, there's so much happening in the neocortex. And that's just from TBR1. So it's an important chroma. We wouldn't be here if we didn't have it. And so scientists say, well, where did it come from? Well-

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Now, the proceedings from National Academy of Sciences, this is a volume called Genetics, they know the answer, and they don't like the answer. Because they say, and this is important, when a scientist makes a discovery they want credit for, and they're proud of, they will say, look at what I discovered.

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When they make a discovery that they may lose their tenure for, or that little controversy around it, they'll say, look at what we discovered. So proceedings National Academy of Sciences, the summary actually says, we conclude the origin of human chromosome two is from the fusion of the telomere to telomere fusion of two ancient chromosomes.

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All right, telomeres, I know our viewers know, telomeres are on the ends of the chromosome to protect them. When the cell divides, it's a trauma for the cell. If you could imagine, the chromosomes are pulled apart. And there's a part of the chromosome, every chromosome, that is not going to make it in that pulling apart. And that means there's a potential to lose important DNA.

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So the way nature, the way we're engineered, takes care of that is we have on the ends of the chromosomes... the telomeres that are repeating sequences that take the hit from pulling apart. So if something is not going to make it, it's not the important DNA, it's the stuff in the telomeres. So they're only on the ends of the chromosome, and that's the point.

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Is that Orlando? Well, the campus was in Melbourne, the main campus. Oh, Melbourne. Florida Institute of Technology. I was on a satellite campus in a little town called Jensen Beach. I don't know if you know. Yeah, I'm familiar with Jensen Beach. Just outside of Stewart. Okay, yeah, yeah. And had a really strong background in math, physics, computer science, ocean sciences, marine geology.

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Chromosome number two, and I've got pictures of it, and Steve can probably find a photograph. Chromosome number two is as big as it is because two chromosomes were fused telomere to telomere. Now you've got telomeres on this end, on this end, and right in the middle where they shouldn't be. There should be no telomeres in the middle of the chromosome. But not only...

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That looks like my, that's my slide. Which one? Does it say my name?

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No, that's my slide right there on the left hand. On the top left? Yeah. Huh. From a recent program that I did. Where's that come from? Can you visit the site?

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I don't know, but he put my, that's my white circle that I put up there showing. Oh, wow. Punch in on that. And I enlarged it. I enlarged it. See that? So what you're seeing, okay, so first of all, these are chromosomes under a microscope, and they've been dyed. So we can see the chromosome's green. The red or pink, however, comes out on there. I don't have my glasses on, so I'm not saying.

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Okay, those are the telomeres, and you can see on all the other ones, telomeres are on the ends right there. And then inside the white circle is the same one that's been enlarged. Right. I did that. That's my slide. Oh, wow. That somebody's using in their paper. Showing, look at where you can see right in the middle. The two red places are right in the middle.

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But you can actually see the pinch point. It looks unnatural. Right. Because it's a little skinny place. But here's the thing. Not only were the pre-existing chromosomes fused telomere to telomere, but after the fusion...

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genes were taken away and genes were added and genes were silenced to stabilize the fusion and it didn't happen slowly gradually over a long period of time as evolution would suggest this happened quickly to 200 000 years ago it's when we showed up to it the chromosomes were fused when we showed up and what is the significance of those chromosomes being of that chromosome 2 being fused

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The significance is it gives us our humanness. If we didn't have chromosome two, you wouldn't have the neocortex. You wouldn't have sympathy, empathy, compassion. You wouldn't have the ability to self-regulate your own biology. And if that was the only one, you could say maybe. It's weird, but maybe it's a fluke, but it wasn't the only one. Chromosome number seven.

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So as a musician, I'm a musician when I'm not doing this. And I've always, chimpanzees, they share 98% of our DNA. I mean, that's a mind blower, 98%. And so I've always wondered, why can't the chimpanzee sing? You're never going to hear a chimpanzee sing in Led Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven. Or if you ever do, shoot me a text because I want to see that. And the question is, why?

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And the answer is because chromosome 7 was stable in all primates for about 175 million years. Stable. All right, all of a sudden, two little genes, there was this little switch of these two genes that connected our tongue and our jaw and the part of our brain that allows us complex speech and the ability to sing. And guess, just take a wild guess, when do you think that happened?

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And then I transferred to terrestrial geology at Colorado State University. And that was where I finished in Denver, Colorado. and began working in the corporations at that time. And it was- You went for petroleum company? Well, you know, you can't make this stuff up. It was Phillips Petroleum is now ConocoPhillips. Same, you know, companies merge.

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no idea 200 000 years ago 200 000 years exactly the same time chromosome 2 was being fused exactly the time that we appeared on earth what are the odds of chromosome 2 being fused and chromosome 7 happening all at the same time and the the odds are astronomically small because the odds of our genome forming the way it formed is 1 in 10 to the 600th what is the conventional explanation for this

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The first thing he said, he goes, why can't you stick with one topic like everybody else? And I thought it was a joke. I thought it was kidding. And I said, excuse me? He said, man, he said, you're all over the map. Are you talking about planetary magnetics? You're talking about ancient civilizations, DNA, you know, geomagnetic anomalies. What are you talking about? Then I knew he was serious.

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Darwin's theory of evolution suggests that we are the product of a long, slow, gradual process over a long period of time through what is called random mutations. Colloquially, we call it lucky biology. It's kind of like you've referred to Goldilocks conditions on Earth. It's the equivalent of Goldilocks.

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What are the chances that just the right genes, just the right chromosomes came together in just the right time to give us our... So you see these kinds of mutations. And scientists say, I mean, this isn't my opinion. This is in those technical bits. There's a paper from Proceedings National Academy of Sciences. The volume is called Genetics. It says this cannot happen under natural circumstances.

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Something happened 200,000 years ago to give us our humanness. And we appeared. And now here's the mind blower. 200,000 years later, now we can pull the DNA out of the fossilized remains of ancient forms of life. It used to be science fiction. Jurassic Park was based on the science fiction that they pulled the DNA out of dinosaur bones and then they brought the dinosaurs to life.

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They reconstituted them. To the best of my knowledge, we have not reconstituted any forms of life. But you know, in the basement of the Pentagon, somebody up there is doing it. But what we can do, this is what we can do. We can pull that DNA and build a genome, a printout of that genome.

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And so now we can compare our genome today to the genome of the forms of life that Darwin's theory of evolution says we descended from. And the DNA says we didn't descend from them. We did not descend from Australopithecus. We didn't, Lucy, we didn't descend from Neanderthal. Now, if you do a DNA test for your ancestry, a lot of people will say, well, I've got Neanderthal DNA.

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And more in Northern Europe. You see that a lot in the UK. And it even proves the point. Because we shared the earth with Neanderthal. Mm-hmm. We actually interbred. They say we probably had boyfriends and girlfriends, Neanderthal boyfriends and girlfriends. We shared the earth with them. We could not have descended from them. So the point is, we don't know where we came from.

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Theory of evolution says that we are the product of this long, slow, gradual process. A lot of people don't know there was... There was a corollary to Darwin's theory put forth by another scientist at the time that says that the corollary says nature never over endows. So the problem is we are all over endowed and people love to hear that.

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What it means is that an organism will only develop the characteristics it needs when nature puts the demand on the organism for it. So for example, adaptation. The studies of moths in London during the industrial age, the coal-fired plants, the moths had white feathers They'd be against white buildings and that would camouflage them from the birds and the birds couldn't get them.

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But I happened to be there at just the right time when computers were coming into vogue. Computers at that time, they filled an entire room. They were big mag tape systems. What year was that? That was 78, 78, 79. Yeah, and I remember my first, well, I'll tell you, I remember the first day I walked onto the job was when the Iranian hostage crisis began in 1979.

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Once the coal fire plant started, all the buildings were covered with soot and they turned black and the white moths stood out like a sore thumb and the birds were picking them off right and left and they quickly adapted.

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to turn the color of their wings black so that they would blend in with the soot that's an example of of nature giving a capability because the demand is there for survival right the problem is danny that we showed up 200 000 years ago with a genome that is light years beyond what we needed for simple survival 200 000 years ago with capabilities Some of them we're only beginning to understand.

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Extended neural networks that allow us to create heart-brain coherence, for example, that open the door to so many human potentials. The ability to self-regulate. We're the only form of life that can at will, on demand, when we choose, sit down in a moment in time and say, in this moment, I choose to strengthen my immune system. I choose to create resilience to the changes in my life.

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I choose to create stronger heart rate variability. I choose to create super memory, super cognition. There are over 1300 positive biological changes that we consciously have the ability. No other form of life can do that. And it's because of what happened 200,000 years ago. So as a scientist, I have to be careful. The evidence strongly suggests intervention of some kind.

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It doesn't say who or what, but this did not happen naturally. Now, my own personal feelings when I read the ancient texts and I visit all these ancient cultures,

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It's so interesting, not one of them, not one of the ancient traditions I've ever been with, the Andes in southern Peru and the shamans in the Yucatan and Nepal in India and the monks and nuns in Tibet, I mean, Bedouin in Africa, none of them say that we're the product of a long, slow, gradual process of random mutations.

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Every single one, bar none, says that we're the product of an intentional act and that we are part of a greater community, whatever we want to call that. So now some people say, now you're talking about aliens. And other people say, well, you're talking about angels and demons. And other people say, well, you're talking about time travelers and advanced civilization. Yeah.

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we have different ways of describing, but the science is telling us we're not the product of random, just lucky biology.

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#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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Yeah, you know, I knew Sitchin and I toured with him in the 90s. You knew him? I knew him. Oh, wow. Yeah, I toured with him before he died. I was very blessed. I toured with... In a conference setting, I toured with John Mack, Michio Kaku, if you study Michio, Zachariah Sitchin, Ed Mitchell, Sixth Man to Walk on the Moon.

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And I was very blessed. I learned a lot from these.

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Oh, yeah. We definitely landed on the moon. It may not have happened exactly the way we definitely have landed, and we continued even after the program was officially ended.

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#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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So, uh, you know, we have a commercial. Did you see the movie contact?

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#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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There's a line in contact. It's it's classic. where they build this device that has been received from the array, the VLR in Socorro, New Mexico. They get the signal and then they build the device and they test it out and it breaks. And they think everything is lost. And classically, the guy says, why build one when you can build two for twice the price?

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And they had built another facility in Japan where they were able to go forward. When we built the Cape, it was the same thing. We built the Cape here in Florida. We built a mirror facility on the West Coast. And- Vandenberg? Vandenberg Air Force Base. And when I was working in the Cold War, installing software. There was a day I had a pass to be on base to install software.

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So it sticks in my mind during that time. And they cut off the oil from the Middle East. And so the petroleum companies were trying to create, we had no reserves and all of our oil was coming out of the Middle East. I don't know, I know you don't remember this. It was one of the few times our nation, is actually rationed gasoline. And we were rationed to 10 gallons per vehicle per week.

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And I finished early and I had a rental car. It's a beautiful base. It's over 60 miles along the coast, rolling green hills. And I asked, I said, can I explore your base? And they said, yeah. And I said, is there any place I shouldn't go? And they said, don't worry. If you go, they're going to let you know. So we didn't have cell phones in those days.

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We had little Instamatic cameras and the 35 millimeter films and he dropped the whole camera off and they developed the film. So I had one of those cameras with me. And so I'm driving along and all of a sudden I came from this hilltop and I could see the Pacific ocean and I got out. And as I looked down from the hill in front of me, there is an entire launch facility.

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I mean, it looks like Cape Canaveral, you know? And all of a sudden up the road, a couple of MPs and Jeeps, they came pretty fast. They came up and they said, we're going to have to ask you to leave. and confiscate your camera. They said, we're gonna have to take your camera. And I said, okay, but can you tell me what I'm looking at? And he said, well, this is slick six. I said, what's slick six?

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And he said, it is the West coast equivalent of the Cape. And so the Cape, when we do a commercial launch has to be broadcast commercially. on the West Coast, those are military launches, and they don't have to be. They don't have to be broadcast. So I have not seen the launch. People have told me that we continued with a few launches after what was the end of the Apollo.

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And it was during the Cold War. I'm not surprised. It was during the Cold War. So, for example, SDI worked on a project called SDI, Star Wars Defense Initiative. To test SDI, we had to take those weapons into space on the space shuttle. Well, once you've got them there, you're not going to bring them home. So they're already deployed. So we've had space weapons, you know, since the Cold War years.

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And I don't know how much of that facility – I'm not in that industry anymore, so I'm out of touch. I mean, this was in the Cold War, and now we're talking years later. I have no idea what it's being used for now. But the point is that we've had that technology. And you asked me from Ed Mitchell, and he said – and I believe him –

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No, they wouldn't. And this is what's so interesting. The Cold War was a really interesting, it was a civilized war. Not like today. where politically we were at war with Russia, capitalism versus communism. Scientifically, there was a lot of cooperation that was going on. We built the space station with Russia. We did that together. And what a beautiful thing that we accomplished together.

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Russia and America at that time were the only two superpowers Number one, the only powers that had the money and the technology and the capabilities of going to the moon or anywhere else. And they agreed not to talk about what they found on the moon. Now both countries are broke.

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Well, I just want to say now both countries are broke, but there are other countries that are not. India is sending Shiva one to the moon and China, and neither one of those countries agreed to non-disclosure. And China has actually said, and this is, I mean, you can't make this up. I keep saying this.

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China has said when they land their craft on the lunar surface, they will broadcast to the world what they see. So here's the thing. We sent craft looking for microbes and bacterial forms of life when those craft landed next to archaeological remnants that are over 50,000 years old. On the moon. On the moon, on the lunar surface.

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And this is the age of muscle cars. That's crazy, in the 70s. Yeah, and 10 gallons, it didn't go very far. So I happened to be in the industry when they were using computers in ways they'd never used before. And I was a computer geologist. I was doing subsurface mapping of energy. In this case, it was in North Slope, Alaska is where we were working. Trying to find that black gold. Yeah.

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And when China sends those images back, my sense, and I don't have an inside track any longer, my sense is that we're going to see structures that are there. And I've seen the photographs of the structures, all the way back to the Clementine missions that were, through freedom of information, had to be released in 19, I think it was 1990, they had to be released.

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And they did, and they pixelated out all of the archeological structures. And some of them are towers, some of them are elongated archeological structures. So look at the irony. Here we are looking for microbes landing next to temples on the lunar surface. Now think about what this means. Here we are, we're on a planet

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on the verge of global war because we believe our differences are so great that we must hurt one another to solve those differences what would it mean for a space probe from earth to land on the lunar surface and find these archaeological remnants and find that they're not from aliens from another world, but they're from us from another time.

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And I think when they send those images and you see the glyphs on those temple walls will know exactly what they say because they will be in our root languages cuneiform hebrew sanskrit and arabic are the four four root languages that uh that i think you'll see when those come back would that be enough

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for us to look at one another as nations and say, my God, look at the great and beautiful things that we did when we worked together a long time ago in the past. What could we achieve if we came together right now? What could we give to our children? What could we give to our future if we work together instead of destroying ourselves? Something like that could be the catalyst.

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They've already found it. I mean, this stuff, we've had the images. And I think it's one of the reasons commercially we didn't go back because it causes a lot of problems. And then what about the dark side?

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Well, the moon itself is an enigma. Shouldn't be. Right, of course. Shouldn't be where it is. The orbit of the moon is unlike any other orbit. of any moon around any planet in our solar system. The multiples, the dimensions, the geometry of the moon, the number of moons between Earth and the sun, the number of moons between Earth and the moon, these are very precise. They're integer multiples.

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This doesn't happen in nature at all. The other planets in our solar system, the moons typically orbit around the equator. Ours is offset just enough to give us the gravity to stabilize our ocean tides. And there is geologic evidence to suggest there was a time where we had oceans and no moon, and the tides were huge.

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I mean, we're talking like 400-foot waves that were coming in and just decimating land. And there are stories, and there are indigenous traditions, and biblical passages that talk about when there was no moon, and how things changed when the moon occurred. Now, that's not science. They're stories. But the geology does suggest they found evidence of these massive...

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tides at a time when they're that's believed the moon didn't exist the question is is the moon a natural moon is it artificial or is it a natural moon that was captured in our orbit from a cla a catastrophic event in our solar system and um all big questions yeah to be answered yeah

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so i think as we go through the um the congressional hearings and we find out more we've been in contact i mean they're telling us we've got the craft i don't think anybody cares about that anymore nobody's surprised we have the beings i don't think anybody's surprised about that but we have the technology and that's the problem because if we've had technology for 70 years that could have ended wars and eased human suffering and because of greed

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we chose not to reveal that technology that's the problem and the moment that technology is revealed our entire infrastructure of the planet changes and some people are afraid of that do you think the government has an idea or any kind of understanding on what was going on with what john mack was talking about There are governments within governments. So there is no one government.

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And so I learned a lot, self-taught in the computer. I could walk in to my company on a weekend.

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It's like the United Nations. I don't want to slam the UN. I have friends working. There are good people in the UN. There's UNs within UNs. There are some people there, a lot of younger people that want to do really good things.

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And there are people there that have been caught up in the hijacking of the UN that are, I'm not even sure they are aware of the implications of all the things that they're doing. Because there are layers and layers and layers all happening under the fundamental canopy of the battle between good and evil. And it's not a metaphor.

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We have to think that way because anything that steals our human sovereignty, Anything that steals our divinity, anything that veils from us our human potential is a form of evil. And now you look at what that means in our lives. What does it mean for our economy? What's it mean for finance? What's it mean for healthcare?

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What's it mean, you know, all the different ways, what's it mean for technology? And I think that is the yardstick that we have to look at. Is this good for us? Does it promote or deny our humanness?

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And because I had a security pass, I could go into a computer room, and there were all the computers of the day that were there, and all I had to do was read a manual and learn how to program these computers. There were CDCs and DEC and IBM. There was no Microsoft at that time. There were no Macintoshes, iOS at that time. Fortran was the main computer language. Fortran? Fortran, F-O-R-T-R-A-N.

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Yeah, so I want to go back to Sitchin. I think Sitchin, I have a lot of respect for Zechariah Sitchin. I think he was a brilliant man. I think he was a good scholar. And he pretty much single-handedly brought to the mainstream.

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I mean, I've always been linguist behind the scenes, but through his series of books, the 12th planet was probably the one that people read the most that brought that to light. I didn't and continue to not agree with his interpretation. Really? His interpretation is that we are here because we were made to be slaves.

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My sense from what I have read and what I understand in the ancient traditions of people I've talked to and in the texts, when you put them all together, is I think very possibly we have been enslaved at a time in our past. I don't think it's the reason we're created here. Yeah. And there's a whole story we can get into maybe another podcast. We can, we can talk about that.

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So I don't think it's the reason we were created and he believed that that was the reason we were created. Yeah.

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Biblical interpretation is that we were deceived into coming to this world rather than this planet. We were deceived into coming into this realm. and three-dimensionality, and that is a form of evil, is the deception of the angels.

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This is the biblical perspective that we're deceived into coming to the earth realm and captured in matter and three-dimensional bodies and led to believe that there is no other realm. That's another interpretation. And you go back far enough, and all of the traditions that I've seen, they all say that we're the product of an intentional act. You go into the Mayan cultures, and they talk about...

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the multiple iterations of what it took to create the first humans and how we were created you go into the apocrypha and the gnostic texts and what's really interesting is they never say god created and even the original biblical text doesn't say that god created humans it says elohim and elohim is a plural so multiple beings created

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humans and when you go into the the apocrypha the texts that were left out by the church uh the first time didn't work multiple iterations of humans had to be created to hold the power of the soul in the three-dimensional world so another way of saying that is multiple

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Iterations of DNA had to be tested to hold the sound or the frequency as the antenna to tune us into where we are multiple iterations. Eve was not the first woman that was created and I think we probably had biblical scholars that may have talked to Lilith According the text was was the first female.

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Yeah that was created from At the same time that Adam the first the first human the first man But because they were created at the same time they were like brother and sister and they weren't drawn to one another it was when Eve

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It was Fortran 4 and then Fortran 77. So although I was an earth scientist with a strong background in math, physics, computer science, and ocean science, the computer science is where I really excelled in those jobs. And they wanted to transfer me to Saudi Arabia. I didn't want to go.

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um eve was created and i wasn't there i just imagine i'll channel adam said thank god you know because because his beautiful woman appeared and it he didn't feel that it was his kin his his sibling he felt and they were able to um to to be as man and woman right

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Well, a couple of things. First of all, we don't even know where the scrolls came from. They have been attributed to the Essenes. who were a mysterious sect that showed up 500 years before the time of Jesus of Nazareth, who did not even call themselves Essenes. The Egyptians called them Therapeute because they knew how to heal.

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And Jesus and his mother and her mother were all of the Essene lineage. So he was raised in the lineage that understood healing. The scrolls now, they were found in Qumran, but now they're doing DNA studies, and the parchment that they're on, some of it didn't come from the Middle East.

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So now the question is, were the scrolls created somewhere else and brought to Qumran intact, or was the parchment created somewhere else, brought to Qumran, and then the scrolls were transcribed from the other documents by the Essenes, and we don't know the answer to that right now. For our viewers, the reason the scrolls are so powerful, and again, you can't make this up.

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This is all 20th century. 46, 47-ish, right around there, the scrolls were found, the oldest records of the Old Testament unedited by the church. 45, the oldest records of the New Testament and the Gnostic texts were found in Egypt, in Nag Hammadi, a little village. They're called the Nag Hammadi Library. And these are...

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the lost gospels that the church edited during the fourth century so now we've got the gospel of philip the gospel of thomas very controversial uh gospel of sophia where the women in the bible they were there right and they were gnostic women uh i mean some of the the female there's a a text called thunder perfect mind what a powerful text written by a gnostic woman

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And I didn't know we were going to talk about this just from memory. I mean, it begins, it says, I'm the whore and I'm the holy one. I'm the healed and I'm the sick. I represent everything in my life that you are in your life. Why do you stone me to death at your city gates? And I can see the church fathers, they're going through the list of, you know, what books do we include and what books?

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And so I left and took the computer expertise and applied for a position with a company that explored the stars and the planets. It was called Martin Marietta Aerospace at that time. And they hired me, but it was during the Cold War. and said, well, you've got a job, but we need your expertise this Cold War on the defense side of the house. We want you to be a programmer.

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They say, oh, that one's got to go, you know? But so within just a few years of the mid 20th century, We had the oldest records of the Old Testament, the oldest records of the New Testament, and the books that had been edited out. 43 books had been edited by the church in the fourth century. And we had a complete view.

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And then you begin to see why the church omitted some of the text, because it destroys the narrative that has been preserved through what we call the Bible. Now, I think the Bible is a good book. Is it complete? No.

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Well, and they do. When I'm in the Middle East, before October 7th of 23, we were leading groups into the Holy Lands that include Israel, include the surrounding areas. And we would go into cities and villages where people of all faiths, they worked in the same restaurants, they lived together, they're neighbors, they're friends.

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The Arabs observe all the Jewish holidays, the Jews observe all the Arab holidays, which means they get a lot of days off during the year. Their kids play together and they know how to live together. It wasn't a problem for them. A lot of people, when we have this conversation, they will acknowledge the Bible is incomplete and they interpret that as the divine inspiration

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that created that led the church to create the bible as it is because this is the way it's supposed to be this is what they'll say it was well yeah it's power and it's green over these over centuries yeah and it's uh and there are a lot of ways to to interpret you know what that is but this is

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One of the overarching themes, and again, this was the war scroll that says we are, until the end of this cycle, that we are in this fundamental battle between good and evil. And that the way that we triumph is by embracing the truth of who we are. That's it. And you can read whatever words you want to read into that, whether you want to talk about biology or you talk about the word divinity.

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So what we're invited to do is live the best version of ourselves.

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That was the first batch. So in cave number one were the first seven scrolls that were discovered. And they were some of the most intact. The Isaiah scroll is the one that's the most intact. And if you go to Jerusalem today, just outside of Jerusalem, there's a museum called the Shrine of the Book Museum. Have you been there before? Oh, this is amazing.

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#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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So the museum on the outside is a white building. It's a white structure that is made to look like a large version of the top of one of the vases, one of the clay vases. Steve, you can probably bring up Shrine of the Book Museum, if you would, please. And I want to show you something on here. When you go inside... The central part of the inside of the Shrine of the Book, there it is right there.

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Okay, so there's the outside. So that's the top, and then there's a black obelisk next to it. Can you see if it shows the black obelisk next to it? Yeah, there it is right there. This is the symbol between the sons of darkness and the sons of light. That black obelisk represents the sons of darkness. The white represents the sons of light.

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The first seven scrolls are housed in this museum.

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And then what you're seeing in the center Steve, you enlarge that upper left. Oh, now it's right in the middle. Yeah, right there. Thank you. Thank you for the work you're doing behind the scenes. What you're seeing here is this is made to look like a Torah scroll. And what you're seeing on display is the Isaiah scroll, the most intact. It's wrapped all the way around.

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And I was a senior computer systems designer for Martin Marietta. And I'm saying this, this is gonna be important in this conversation because it gave me insight into some of the most advanced technologies at that time. And even today, I mean, advanced laser systems, computer systems, radar systems, everything.

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And that whole structure is designed in the event of a nuclear attack. The belief is... that the information on the Great Isaiah Scroll will be the foundation of the new civilization that emerges from the destruction, and it must be preserved at all costs. So this entire structure is designed to drop underground

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into a vault and the lid is a concrete and steel lid that comes over it to preserve the great isaiah scroll in the event of a nuclear attack for the emerging remnant afterward to have all the information they need to build the new the new civilization that's how important the isaiah scroll is believed to be isn't that amazing that's insane yeah yeah and this is where again

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This is in the Shrine of the Book Museum, just outside Jerusalem. And then the other scrolls are in the displays that you see around. But that's the Isaiah scroll that you're seeing right there.

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Oh, yeah. Well, my Hebrew is not the best, my biblical Hebrew. I've read the English translations of it. Do you read any ancient languages? I am not an expert scholar. I have a strong background in linguistics. And so I have, when languages have been found on some of the archaeological remnants that have never been translated,

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And I said, well. I said, we do cover a lot of ground, but if you look closely, every one of those facets is just that, is a piece, one piece of a single picture. And it's a story of us. It's us and our relationship to our bodies in the world. So in a very real sense, I am sticking with one topic. It's just a big topic. And he said, let's go to station break. And he never came back. What?

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when there are archaeological remnants that are being found now here in Mesoamerica. I can't say that it's an alphabet, but their symbols have never been translated. So I am asked to intervene as a linguist and a geologist to see if these are...

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If the stones come from this area, if they came from somewhere else, if the language is a known language, is not a known language, is it similar to anything that we see? Egypt, you know, cuneiform, Sanskrit.

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It's ongoing. It's ongoing. So this is all in the, and you can see the displays on the edge are other remnants, fragments of the Dead Sea Scrolls.

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#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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When I was there last in 23, there was a new exhibit inside of here and the only scroll that has ever been found of the book of Genesis. The original Genesis was found. And at that time, it was not in good shape. It was still rolled, and they couldn't unroll all of it without damaging it. So we now have technology. They can see what's in it without actually breaking it.

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#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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But that's the—there's so much—the scrolls are important. For a number of reasons. They're important for, certainly for the Jewish people in terms of their tradition, but humankind in general. Because it's in those first five books of the Old Testament, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, that mathematicians and statisticians were able to load them into the computer back in the 90s.

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and what i began to realize because of my background in biology is that all the stuff i was seeing built around us is as cool as it was i have yet to this day to see any technology outside of us that doesn't mimic what we already do in the human body except we do it better and that's going to be important when we talk about where we're going here so so it was that path It wasn't a quantum leap.

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and run search algorithms called ELS, electronic skip sequences, or letter sequences. And what they found when they do that mathematically is beyond random, beyond chance, statistically, what they're finding is meaningful information encoded in number underlying the letters of these first, only these first five books. They tried it with other books and it doesn't work.

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#275 - The Bible Codes: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Greg Braden

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So there's something very special about those first five books. a deeper meaning below the letters that we read on the page. Every ancient alphabet, bar none, has always had a number that represents the letter. The science of that is called Gematria, and it's not numerology. Numerology is a loose subset that doesn't follow the rules.

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In the second century, there was a book, the 32 rabbinical rules were laid out in the second century, determining how Gematria can be used as a science. And I've spent a lot of time with this. I've got the software, run the algorithms, and you can't fake this stuff. I mean, everything that has happened in the past is encoded into that document. They did the original. Are you familiar with this?

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Have you had guests talk about this? Okay. Roughly, vaguely. Well, I mean, everything from all the great wars are in there, the countries that entered the wars, the years they entered, who their leaders were, the year the war was over, what year the leaders, I mean, the assassination of Kennedy, the election of Obama, Trump. I mean, everything is encoded. And the text says that it will be.

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is in until the end of time not the end of the world but the end of time is encoded into that text the end of time into these texts into the first five books genesis leviticus numbers deuteronomy when do you think they were written uh well this is why the scrolls are so important because they were the oldest records that had not been edited that were ever discovered of these books

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Okay, representations of all the Old Testament, not complete, but representations of all them. And you can see where the discrepancies are.

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I don't know if they have. Can you find that, Steve? If they have a consensus, the scrolls.

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The scrolls pushed the dates back by a thousand years.

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So there's a whole lot we can say about all of that, but I think what's important from all that, and it's another perspective. It's another perspective. Why? How could all that information be encoded? And to understand that, I was a senior computer systems designer, and even that, I had not been taught about

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what it appears is happening in here this is what's called a dynamic array so we're used to talking about an array of information you know linear information this is a multi-dimensional in the computer you can do it multi-dimensional but the thing about this array is every time an event occurs, the entire array rearranges itself to accommodate that event and create a new possible outcome.

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It was a logical progression that I was developing my understanding of the technology and the science by day. By night, I was studying, and always have since I was five years old, ancient civilizations, ancient texts. Because I've always believed, and this really, and I don't talk about this a lot, but you asked me, so I'm happy to share it.

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It's almost as if, I mean, in lay terms, it's almost as if we were given, we believe, except that we live in a quantum world, quantum possibilities. many potentials and that we make the choices that become our reality. It's almost as if we were given a map of potentials, outcomes. So you query, say something like 2024 election Trump. So that's a query.

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So when people talk about whether or not their lives are meaningful, they're using meaning as a metaphor. It's like the meaning of a sentence. Sentences are meaningful. Like if I say doesn't mean anything to you, right? But if I say there's a cat on the mat, that means something. What goes into that?

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If we slowly unpack the metaphor, we can get a sense of what people are gesturing to with the metaphor. So think about how all the words cohere together. They cohere together, right? They make sense together. And what they do is they connect you to the world with the possibility of truth. It could be true that the cat is on the mat, and then you're connected to reality.

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So there's this coherence, there's connectedness, and the sentence signifies the world to you in a certain way, makes the world significant to you in a certain way. Now, if you look at all the work in reality, And I do because in the psychology of meaning in life, not the meaning of life, the meaning of life is some metaphysical proposal.

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We're talking about a cognitive psychological phenomenon, the meaning in life. This is what people are talking about when they say, even though my life has been filled with frustration and failure and betrayal and guilt and shame, I still want to keep going because my life is meaningful. Okay?

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And we can maybe talk a little bit later about how it's not the same thing as subjective well-being or mastery of one's environment. Okay. If you take a look at the four, there's four features of meaning in life. One is coherence. What people mean is there's something like the structure of their experience that's like the coherence of a sentence. Well, what does that mean?

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Well, coherence is the opposite of absurdity. Absurdity is when you have two perspectives that are clashing so that one undermines the other. So here we are. You and I, we're in this little perspective. We're here and we're doing all this stuff and it's also meaningful. And then I get you to zoom out to the entire universe, the cosmic perspective.

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And from that perspective, our little lives could seem insignificant, right? They could seem absurd. There's a clash. Now, before that gets too dark, realize that we have a way of dealing with reality. potential absurdity between perspectives and reconciling it with an insight. So we already have a sense of humor. That's what humor is.

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Humor is when there's a clash between perspectives and then you get an insight that reconciles it. So just to hold that out so people don't admit, because when I sometimes say that, that's kind of a dark thing to say. Okay, so you want that. The next is, right, when I said the cat is on the mat, it oriented you. It made you look in a particular direction, gave you a focus.

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So the next factor is called purpose. But the problem, I don't like that term because our culture is all about purpose. And we think of purpose as some end goal state of something we have to have, some status, some power. I got to get to, got to fulfill my purpose. The problem with that is if you... And I realized this in high school and I went around writing, there is no purpose.

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Because I realized even then, before I saw any of this research, that doesn't work. Because if you never get it, your life was meaningless. And once you get it, once you've got your thing, your purpose, then your life becomes meaningless. So don't think about purpose that way. Think about it as orientation.

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You need a North Star, something that orients you, helps you consistently focus, helps you navigate and track through reality and narrate and keep track of how you're tracking through reality. It's an orientation that allows you to narrate and navigate. That's what you need. The next is significance, like the sentence. Things have to be significant. You have to have a lot of significance.

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You have to have things that seem very real, deep, not ephemeral, superficial to you. And then finally, and turns out most importantly, is mattering. Mattering matters the most. Mattering is the sense of being... connected to something, and I'm going to put it in scare quotes because it's another metaphor we have to unpack, something bigger than yourself.

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But this goes back to what I pointed out about Plato. We want to be connected to something that's really real. So these are the three questions to ask yourself to see if you have mattering. What do you want to exist even if you don't?

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That's right. Got it. How really real is it? Mm-hmm. It's not virtual, not ephemeral, not superficial. How connected are you? How much do you matter to it? And how much of a difference does it make to you? Mm-hmm. How significant? So mattering and significant are turning out to actually be two sides of the same connectedness. I use the ancient word religio for that sense of connectedness.

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So I'm basically asking you, do you have religio? Is it connected to something that's really real? And so much so that you care about it beyond your egocentric concerns. Those are the three questions. Now, a prototypical answer is, that people give, and it's a right one, is, well, my kids. And Elizabeth Oldfield, the kids are sacred in that sense.

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Sacred is something you wouldn't exchange no matter how much money somebody was willing to give you for it, okay? So, well, do you want your kids to exist when you don't? Well, yeah, that's the whole project. Of course I want them to exist, and I'm trying to make the world a better place for them. So when I'm not here, they will flourish, right? Are they really real?

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Well, if you aspire to being a good parent, they're way more important than you, and they're really real. I mean, having a child is one of the best ways to turn the arrow of egocentrism out to something other than yourself. You come to this stark realization as, wow, that being is more important than me. And if I don't live that, that child will die, right?

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Like, I remember having those moments, and they're almost terrifying, right? And then, do I matter to my kids? I long to matter to my kids. I long to make a difference in their life. And they're super significant to me. And so, right? Kids are a typical answer of that. Now, here's one thing, and then I'll shut up so you can reply, right? When you have a kid...

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All the measures of subjective well-being, that sort of, I feel really good about myself, the thing that shows up in beer commercials, and I feel really good, I'm good, I'm happy, I'm good, yeah, yeah, yeah. That, all of that goes away when you have a kid. You're sleep deprived. You're not eating. It's like being in a shipwreck. You're wet all the time for some reason, right?

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There's alarms going off. That's the kid crying. The person you thought loved you most in the world, your partner, doesn't like you anymore, right? And you're getting sick all the time. Why do people do it? The subjective well-being is collapsing. Their finances are going down. Kids are wickedly expensive. So those are the two things we're supposed to be, wealth and subjective well-being.

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They collapse. What goes up that more than compensates for the collapse in wealth and subjective well-being? Meaning in life. And that's what's at risk in the meaning crisis.

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In many respects, technology is advancing faster than our morality. The first time in the 200,000 years of our existence, we have the ability not only to change the world around us, but to forever change the world within us. When we make those changes in our biology, we can't go back.

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the core of our most ancient and cherished spiritual traditions. They didn't know the science, but they were helping us to make the best of our humanness and to develop it in extraordinary ways. Now the science has forgotten that. So I'm just going to say this is a very different way of thinking of the human body.

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because we're conditioned, I went to school in 1950s, 60s, early 1970s, and I was conditioned to think of the human body as a frail, vulnerable, biological system, sticky, wet, gooey stuff inside the cells. And here's the revolution. Now, scientists all over the world are beginning to think of the human body from the perspective of IT, information technology.

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And so people say, why don't we know about these new discoveries? The answer is because the discoveries are published in engineering journals. They're not published in biological textbooks, like IEEE, for example, and the Journal of Advanced Computing Systems, things like that.

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And they're looking at the human body from an information technology perspective, and they're blown away by what they're seeing. We talked about this in a previous interview. The circuits, every one of the 50 trillion cells in our body is an electrical circuit. Transistors, resistors, those equivalents are in the body.

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The DNA are literally, and this is directly from an engineering journal, the DNA is being called a resonant fractal antennae. What that means is that we are picking up information across the broad spectrum of information sources, rather than you think of an antenna zeroing in on one station somewhere.

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We're picking it up from everywhere simultaneously, and we're processing it from the DNA into the nervous system, through the body, into the brain. And when they begin looking at us from an IT perspective, I mean, they're... Engineers are clamoring to recreate in a laboratory what we do in our bodies, and they cannot do it.

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And the reason they cannot do that is because of our humanness and our divinity that allows us as resin antenna to tune to information that's not in our physical bodies, but it permeates the world that we live in. There's a big conversation there.

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So yeah, as a natural form of evolution, we would lose access to all of that if we replace the membranes of our cells, the neurons in our brain, and the DNA in our bodies with synthetics and artificial components, we lose that. So I guess maybe the question, Andre, is what kind of evolution do we want?

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Here's the... I agree with you. And here's the problem. Not all the changes are by choice. There is a relatively small number of people that view themselves as technological elite that know better... than everyone else what is good for us, what's good for our world, what's good for our human species. And it's always been that way, even before we had the technology we have today.

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And I've never had any problem with any of that. Where this gets concerning is those thinkers, for example, the World Economic Forum, WEF, developed 1971. They get together every year. Davos, Switzerland, we all hear about it. We see it on the news, you know, the private jets going in and... and the mysterious meetings and all of that.

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And they have every right to get together and think about the world that they want. These are elite business leaders, CEOs of major corporations, major financial institutions, government leaders, things like that.

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What changed is in 2019, they formalized an agreement with the United Nations through what is now called the UN SDG 2030, United Nations Sustainable Development Goals for 2030, 17 goals that are intended to be implemented within five years now, because we're now almost 2025. That's not very long. The goals are beautiful goals when you look at them by title.

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Things like food security and child health, planetary global child health. I mean, who doesn't want that? We all want that. Now, you look at the fine print. And you say, how are they going to achieve those goals in such a brief period of time? And the level of social engineering that has to happen if they are going to achieve those goals is staggering. It is nothing short of a social revolution.

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I personally don't want to live in the world that they're proposing, a world... where everything is digitized, everything is controlled, everything is run by AI. AI is making decisions for our health, AI is making decisions for all these things. So yes, a relatively small number of people have these visions. Most people

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In life, if I go to my... I live in a rural area in northern New Mexico, beautiful part of the world. And when I'm home, I go to my local food co-op. That's where I get to connect with my neighbors. Really good people, Andre. You know, most of them are so... Their lives are so full with raising their children, working two or three jobs, trying to put food on the table, keeping things together.

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They don't have time to think about this stuff. So they don't know... the specifics of what you and I are talking about. What they do know is that the world is changing and it's happening too fast. And I had a woman actually say this to me. She said, it's not, it's the changes are not chosen by us. They're happening to us. And so their answer is to pull back. They're saying, we need to slow down.

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They're pulling their kids out of public schools to teach them the values that they cherish in their family. They're growing their own food. Less engaged in the banking system, less engaged in traditional forms of finance, retirement, jobs and careers, all of that. That's their answer is by going back to the basics. So, yes, it is a relatively small number. However, they now have the ability.

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The policies are being written, as you and I are having this conversation. The policies are already in place. And some of those policies now are being made into law. And that law, just the way we have lobbyists for oil and gas industry and pharmaceutical industry, there are now lobbyists.

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lobbying for these sustainable development goals in the US Congress and in the European Union, that's what changes everything. These are unelected officials. We didn't ask them to represent us and we didn't ask them to what their ideas are for a better world. They have assumed this position through the use of their own or misuse of their own power.

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And now these policies are being imposed upon us. And the insidious thing is it is done so slick. The marketing is so slick and sexy. I know what's happening and I'm still in awe when I see the YouTube videos You know, commercials making this stuff look so sexy. For example, they're targeting young people.

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You can put a computer chip in your brain, and with no wires, you can communicate with your keyboard and play all your video games, and a young person is going to say, sweet, you know, let me see if I've got this straight. I can play... I can play my video games and never touch the keyboard. And they say, yeah, yeah, you can do that. Well, who doesn't want that?

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Because they've never been taught what the price is they're paying.

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Well, we know from the laboratory experiments, the horrible things that happened to the primates that were used to develop the technology that Neuralink, for example, has been reluctant. They did come forward. They're reluctant because it's not what they want to emphasize. But the horrible things that happened to those primates to get to that point where it is now, FDA has just licensed it.

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These computer chips for use in the human brain. Now, there's a flip side to all this. And there always is. I love technology outside my body. And I respect technology. And I respect AI. And I think if we harness the technology, it can lead us to amazing places without giving our power and our biology and our lives away to this.

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Wow, that's a big question to begin with. You know, in many respects, the technology is advancing faster than our morality. and our wisdom in terms of what the values are that we claim that we share as a human family. A perfect example of this. I think people sometimes learn better through example. I read an interview with Ray Kurzweil Ray Kurzweil, I think many people know, is a futurist.

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Let me give you an example. I mean, this is a beautiful thing. A Neuralink chip for a man or woman who have given their lives in service to the battlefield of Afghanistan or Iraq and been blown to pieces, but are still alive to do that. And if they come home with only one arm or one leg or no legs, what a beautiful thing to take a robotic technology

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and hook that to a chip in the brain that allows them to have arms and legs again, to hold their babies and to love their children and to feed themselves and wash and comb their own hair. I mean, what a beautiful thing. This is good technology. So it's not the tech. It's the thinking underlying the tech, the thinking that we are indoctrinated to accept.

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This is it. We are led to believe that we are a flawed species. And they keep saying, and ultimately, the ultimate goal for much of this, you mentioned without saying the word, is immortality. They're afraid of dying. And they believe that if we can develop the technology to download consciousness onto a chip, which I believe is I know how deep you want to get in this. I believe it's not possible.

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You can't. And the reason is because we are more than ones and zeros. And the scientific community is reluctant to accept that. So they are searching. I remember I was a kid in northern Missouri when Einstein left this world, and they took his brain and gave it to University of Kansas right across the state line.

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And they dried it and thin sliced it so they could look into his brain and say, what makes Einstein so different from everyone else? They didn't find anything with the exception of one small feature. His brain had way more folds. than most brains do. Well, what that means is when you take that fold and you stretch it out, it means he's got more surface area, which means he's got more neurons.

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They were looking for the information in his brain. The neurons are the antenna that tune us to the place in the field where our memories live. Studies are very clear on this, where our divinity lives. where our imagination, our creativity, our ability to love, all of those things are part of our divinity.

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And the neurons are the antennae that tune us to our localized places in the field, which is why it makes perfect sense. If you give away your humanness to synthetics, to silicon organs, or the equivalent, silicon brains, You're not going to be able to tune to that.

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You can still be alive, but what kind of a human are you if you've lost your ability for empathy, sympathy, compassion, love, forgiveness, and those kinds of things? So this is the whole point of where the technology is leading. We cannot capture consciousness on the computer chip because consciousness... This was, Brian Greene did an amazing interview with Joe Rogan, and they talked about this.

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And ultimately what he said, he believes, and he thinks it's going to take another 100 years, is what Brian Greene said. He said he thinks that we will discover that the stuff we're made of, the quarks and the quantum particles, leptons and the quarks, when they behave a certain way, that's what we call consciousness. And I like Brian Greene a lot. In my opinion, he's missing the point there.

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So here we are at the precipice of giving our humanness away to technology within the context of a belief system that says we're flawed to begin with, and there's no reason not to do this, where the best science of the modern world is telling us just the opposite. And that context, I think, changes everything. Here's what it does. We're going to get through it. The question is, what do we become?

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because it's not in the stuff. They're looking in the stuff for consciousness. And because of that, they think the electrical synapses in the brain, if you can capture that, put it on a chip, you've captured consciousness. And what we now know is that those electrical synapses are the antenna tuning to the place in the field. Can I just share an experiment? Sure.

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That really helps to illustrate this. And you and I talked about this offline a little bit. I do this in live audiences. And first you can hear the audience gasp when they hear this, and then the room is quiet. And you can hear literally a pin drop with a couple thousand people in the room. So this experiment's been done a couple of times.

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One of the first was at the Salk Institute here in California. They took neurons and placed them into a Petri dish that was connected to a specialized chip. And for our techies out there, I mean, literally the little dendrites, there were ports on the chip that could accommodate those dendrites. So now you've got a neuron computer chip interface. So they did that successfully.

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He's an author, an inventor, and he is high in management at Google, developing the artificial intelligence. He recently released a book entitled Singularity, where he says that we are rapidly, unless something changes, we are rapidly moving toward a convergence of human biology and digital technology.

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And then they took that chip and they hooked it to a computer that was loaded with an old game. Some of our viewers may remember. It was first launched in 1972. It's called Pong. And I was working in industry when Pong came out. And it's so primitive today. It's ping pong on a very flat two-dimensional screen. I would come back from lunch

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when we were working in the high-tech industry during the Cold War, and engineers working on nuclear triggers for our weapon systems were glued to their screens playing this game of Pong because nothing had ever been seen like that before. I mean, you know, it's hard to think with the advanced gaming world we live in now. It's so simple. But here's the point. They took

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They took that computer chip with the neurons, they hooked it to a computer that was loaded with this game Pong, the neurons started playing the game. And the longer they played, the better they got. They were learning from playing this game. So the question becomes, how does a neuron not hook to a person in a Petri dish know how to play Pong, where are the instructions for the Pong?

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The answer is the instructions are not in the neuron. The neuron is the resonant antenna that tunes to the place in the field that scientists now have acknowledged. July 4th, 2012, the CERN superconducting supercollider announced the existence of the field underlying all existence. So this is not a metaphor, not new thought, new age make-believe.

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So the neurons are tuning to the place in the field where Pong lives. There's a place in the field.

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Yeah, his morphic resonance, morphogenic field. But we all know this in everyday life because when we choose to learn something new, Andre, and you and I are both guitarists. If you're learning another language, you know, a foreign language, You, the first time you try to learn something guitar, it feels awkward or you're speaking phonetically in a foreign language and it sounds weird.

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All of a sudden you wake up one morning and you're playing like Steve Vai, hopefully. Or, you know, you're speaking French or you're speaking English and you say, well, God, you know, what happened? It was hard a couple of days ago. Here's the answer to that. The time-lapse photography shows it takes about 72 hours for neurons to find one another. They're very social cells. They want to hook up.

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Absolutely. We all have them. So it takes about three days, about 72 hours. And you can see under a microscope, here's where we come in. It is the act. The act.

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of a human choosing to be more in the moment in front of them than they were in the moment behind them, the act of choosing to learn something new and different or to accomplish or to master something, that choice is the biological trigger. It's the impetus for the cells, including the neurons, to do what they need to do to support that choice. That's how powerful we are.

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And when he was asked in the interview what that means to us, you know, of course, we're developing this technology at a lightning speed. It's like the floodgates have been opened and there's no stopping where that technology is going. And when he and others have been asked the question, what does that mean to us?

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Well, this is another place where the new studies, well, let me follow with the pong. So now scientists are stuck. And this is the way science learns. If science is honest, science can only serve us if we keep science honest. If science is honest, they will have to acknowledge that there's something happening, number one, that they don't understand. And that's hard for some scientists to do.

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It's a mystery. Number two, they'll have to acknowledge the information can't be in the neuron. So where is it? And that will lead to the new story that it tells, rather than taking those neurons and trying to force the phenomenon of Pong to fit into an old story that no longer serves us. And this is the challenge for science in general, is always...

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Are we willing to follow the evidence to the new stories that the evidence tells? Or are we going to take the new discoveries, force those discoveries into preexisting models, like a square peg in a round hole? You can do that. A square peg will fit into a round hole, but then it's not a good fit. There's little spaces around it.

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And that's exactly theory of evolution, theory of the origin of the universe. I mean, all of this. That's exactly where this is happening. So this is why I encourage our viewers, if you're going to learn something new or you have children or grandchildren that are frustrated, if it doesn't come to them just like that, give it three days.

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And you'll be amazed because it takes about the 72 hours for those neurons to come together to support the choice that we've made. So now you just asked, what was the question that you had just asked? Because I wanted to address that as well.

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New discoveries are showing when I was a kid... again, school 50s, 60s, and 70s, we were taught, and I think they may still be teaching this in some schools, that we were born with a finite number of brain cells, finite number of neurons.

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And the joke at that time, this was the leverage for every college student, every beer you drink in college, you're going to lose brain cells, and you've only got so many to start with, you know, so don't drink all those beers. Well, now what they know is that the hippocampus is constantly producing new neurons until the last breath we take on this planet. You could be 104 years old.

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120 years old, and you're still producing new brain cells, here's the catch. If those brain cells are not engaged in a meaningful way within about seven days, they will atrophy and die. Because once again, our body functions on demand. Biology is looking for a reason to give us the features that we have.

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So if those brain cells are engaged, or they're not engaged, then the body says, I guess we don't need these. And they begin to atrophy and die. So now here's what the psychology is showing. Artificial intelligence and virtual reality have been around long enough now that they can do studies. Psychologists are doing studies, young people. What they found is that young children

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who have, say you're three years old, you wake up in the morning, eat a bowl of Captain Crunch, I guess, cereal, and then the parents sit them on the living room floor and put a virtual reality visor on to be entertained for the morning, and the parents go off and do their things.

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What does it mean for humans to merge our humanness into the Internet of all things with artificial intelligence? The answer is, I think is telling because he essentially says, don't ask me, I'm an engineer. My job is to push the technology as far and as fast as I can. He said, that's somebody else's bailiwick to determine what it means to us socially. And I think it's this disconnect.

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But that's happening. That's happening. So the kids are sitting there for hours. Here's the catch. They're seeing things in that virtual reality that they would never see in real life in their backyard with their friends. They're seeing scenarios that would never, you know, they're not going to see dinosaurs walking through the backyard, probably.

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They're seeing colors, intense colors, hearing the sounds. But the key is, it's all being done for them, Andre. They are simply observers of watching this happen rather than we were kids, we used our imagination. You would create a fort in the backyard or a fort in your living room by putting a blanket across the couch in the love seat. And to you or to me, man, that was a very real fort.

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Parents might not have thought so, but we were engaging our imagination. So now the studies, the psychological studies are showing Children in that environment, they are stunted in their physical growth. They're stunted in the muscle growth. They're stunted in their cognitive abilities.

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And their brain size is smaller, but their visual cortex is larger, which makes perfect sense because they're engaging the part of the brain that... is involved in the vision, but not in the creation and the creativity. So they're showing us now, sadly, these young, and that can be reversed because we are epigenetic beings.

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They can begin restructure their lives and be taught how to be imaginative and creative. And they can reverse it. It's not for life unless they choose to have those limitations for life. But they're showing us what you're saying. And this is a perfect example. When we see that happening in the brain, that illustrates what happens in the entire body. It happens with sexual reproduction.

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When we stop, we begin to use technology. Now, there are artificial wombs where women don't have to go through the pain. of carrying a baby. There are artificial wombs. The FDA will approve them within five years. Right now, they're using them with lambs successfully. And they use lambs because the blood and the brain structure of a lamb are so similar to humans.

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So they can grow an entire lamb in an artificial womb, fur grows and everything. I don't even think you can call it being born because you don't come through a birth canal. I'm not sure what you would call it. And then part of the transhuman conversation is that human conception is so imprecise. You never know what you're going to get. But we can fix that. That's what they say.

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Because we've got gene editing. We can gene edit fast twitch muscles for athletes or more IQ, greater intelligence, more IQ, or eye color or hair color. Now you get into the conversation, whose idea of perfection? do we really want to making those choices? And when we do, it's happening right now, as we do this outside of the body, the human body,

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believes that it doesn't need to support conception any longer. And that's happening at a dangerous time in our lives because global fertility has fallen off a cliff. A lot of people don't know this. A lot of people believe I've had older biologists in their 80s who remember a book that was written in 1972 called The Population Bomb.

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that there are too many people on the planet, not enough resources, and they're stuck in that mindset. That's not true at all. First of all, we have all the resources we need to feed every mouth of every man, woman, and child. No one should be going hungry or without. We have that. Right now, the replacement rate for human population is two.

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And I think it is a disconnect. that we are empowering the technology within the context of a world we've been taught that we are powerless victims of our world, that we are a flawed species to begin with, that carbon-based life in general and humans specifically are a flawed species.

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Each woman who has reached puberty needs to produce 2.1 children to just maintain. And we have fallen below that. We are below that 2.1. So we will top out. If nothing changes, we're going to top out right around 2050, which isn't that far away. And after 2050, that's not good for us. And there are a number of factors.

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There are hormonal disruptors in the environment that have been introduced to us in our water, in our food. Those are toxins. There are energetic factors that are happening, and it's both for men and women. The sperm is weak and the eggs are not always viable.

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And even now, many women, I'm sure women listening to this realize that for a successful conception, sometimes it takes two or three miscarriages to get to that successful conception. And we're seeing more of that. So all of this is saying to us, that we have these systems that are built to be used. There's an axiom in biology, it's use it or lose it.

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And we hear people joke about that as you get older with things like sex and things about your muscles and things like that, but it applies to everything in the body. Use it or lose it. If we allow technology to replace these natural biological functions, and many of them we take for granted, What happens is in one generation, we begin to decline.

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Epigenetics passes that to the next generation, and we lose that part of our humanness, and it's already happening.

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Well, they're still doing this. With cloning, a lot of people think we've got this down to a science. There is a science. I'm going to share why the cloning is broken, but I want to preface this. This is the way science learns. And this, once again, we've asked science to tell us who we are and we've asked science to serve us. Science can only do that if we keep science honest.

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And if we follow the information and the discoveries to the place that they lead. So here's what's happening with cloning. Yes, Dolly the sheep was the first, was not the first clone, but was the first that was very publicly acknowledged and And Dolly, at first, when she was cloned, she looked like any other sheep. She acted like a sheep. She lived like a sheep. She conceived.

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I believe she had three or four offspring, so she was able to conceive. And then something mysterious began to happen that happens typically to cloned animals. Now, to the best of my knowledge, publicly, officially, legally, we're not doing this with humans. Behind the scenes, I think there's a really good chance and there's a whole conversation we could have about that.

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And through multiple generations, we have been led to believe, indoctrinated to believe that this is the case, that we need something outside of ourselves to be healthy in our bodies and to be successful in business and successful in life. So with that mindset, the development of the technology opens the door to us giving our power away

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But what began to happen with Dolly is her body began to break down at about 50% of the age for her species of where a body should break down. And the first thing that I'm doing is from memory. The first thing that happened with her was she developed really severe arthritis. It just made it so painful for her to even move. And they tried to manage that with steroids and painkillers.

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And then she developed respiratory issues. Eventually, she was euthanized as a compassionate way of relieving her pain. She's not the only one. Now they've tried to do this with cows, bovine cloning. It's exactly the same thing. Scientists are mystified, and here's the reason. Because they say, what in the world is going on? We've got exactly the DNA. We've got the eggs. We know how to do this.

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What is it that's missing? And now the scientific journals are saying there's something missing here. that we have not recognized. And in the book, I share my perspective of what that is. When you do the cloning, what you're doing is you're taking the DNA from another organism and putting it into the egg of the original organism that has been enucleated, is the term.

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So they take an egg, take the DNA out of the original, take that DNA out. Now they take the DNA from another sheep, for example, and put it into that egg, and then they electrically stimulate it, and it begins to grow. Here's what they've missed. The DNA does not only exist in the nucleus of the cell. There is DNA there, we all know that.

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And the nucleus, there's also DNA outside of the nucleus in what's called the cytoplasm. This is where the information technology is now blurring the lines with biology. Because IT, information technology, says the DNA is a resonant fractal antenna, all right? So in the original egg, the DNA inside the nucleus is in communication with the DNA outside the nucleus.

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They're having a conversation so they can support one another. You pull that original DNA out, you put another DNA in, it's tuned to a different station. It can no longer communicate with the DNA outside of the nucleus. That is where the breakdown happens. That is why the functions begin to... begin to fail at about 50% of the lifespan.

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And I think the only way they'll have that successful long-term cloning is they will have to acknowledge that and allow those two pieces of DNA to communicate. And there are a number, I hesitate, I don't know how deep I want to get into that. There are a number of ways to go about doing that.

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But the key is they've got to acknowledge that there is information being shared between nuclear and cytoplasmic DNA. And to the best of my knowledge, they haven't done that yet. Isn't that interesting?

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Yeah, and so they want to apply this to humans. Ultimately, they want to apply it to organs. They want to clone organs so that we don't have to have someone die before we get an organ, you know, from someone else. They've got... Right now, we can 3D print key organs. You can 3D print a kidney. You can 3D print a heart.

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You can 3D print ears, nose, and skin, which is awesome for burn victims and things like that, so you don't have to take your own skin grafts. How successful will those organs be in the body? And these are all considerations that we have to think about.

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from our biology and from the potential of our humanness, relinquishing that power into the technology, computer chips in the brain, chemicals in the blood, RFID chips under the skin, nanobots moving through the circulatory system, artificial intelligence, and so much more. And we're seeing that movement now.

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All under the umbrella of this transhumanistic movement, we're trying, this is a generation, we're trying to replace our natural biology with synthetics.

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Divinity. Can you refine that more? Yeah. So let's, in our previous conversation, when did we do that conversation? Like seven months ago, eight months ago. So about over six months ago, we had this conversation. And I don't want to be redundant, but I know... Not everyone sees every moment of every episode, although they should, of the amazing, amazing interviews that you do.

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You are so really—and I just want to just take a moment and thank you and acknowledge what a beautiful community you've created around Know Thyself. And I attribute a lot of that to your skill as— an interviewer, and as a listener. And I appreciate that. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that.

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Yeah, well, you do a beautiful job. So I think I'm going to go back because it's with me right now. Yes, there is always a dark side to any technology, as well as all the good things. It's the thinking underlying it. The movement to replace our biology, with technology effectively shields from us our divinity.

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One of the things I think that sets today apart from any other time in the past, and you mentioned the new book, I opened the new book by speaking about this, is that as humans, we've always had the ability to change the world around us. We could, we sometimes not such good ways, we've clear cut forest, we've hunted species to the point of extinction.

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We are, but there's another aspect. So now I'm a systems thinker. I'm a scientist. I'm a systems thinker. And I look at the big, big overarching picture, not to get stuck in it, but to recognize it and then zero into the nano moment of where we are right now. And we talked about this seven months ago. There is a bigger picture here. There's a fundamental battle between good and evil.

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And a lot of people don't want to recognize that. They don't want to acknowledge that battle.

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There are. And I appreciate that. I mean, even when I was born and raised in a rural community in northern Missouri here in the United States, we used to joke about this stuff. You know, we'd say, oh, good and evil. Yeah, there's a little devil that's about this big. He had the horns and red tail on this shoulder and the angel over here. And they're having this conversation.

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But there is a fundamental battle between good and evil. And there are so many different ways between light and dark that... is expressed as good and evil. We live in a world of polarities. We're always gonna have the polarities, the light and the dark. Those polarities express in different ways. One of the ways they express is through what we call good and evil.

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And there's so many different ways to approach this. One of the first times I became familiar with it was in my study of the Dead Sea Scrolls. And I'll just encapsulate this briefly. The scrolls were discovered in 1945, 46, 47, 11 caves, Qumran in Israel. And they were discovered in 45 through 46 primarily, but the information was not allowed to be released to the public until the early 90s.

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It's 45 years. And you say, what could be the problem? What could possibly be in a 2,500-year-old scroll that would warrant the Vatican intervening and not allowing this information and legal proceedings and the money and the energy and the time? What could possibly be in there?

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Well, the answer is, and you can't make this up, it was found in the first cave, cave number one, in the first vase that they found in cave number one when it was sealed. And the first scroll that they pulled out that was 19 columns that colloquially is called the War Scroll.

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And the War Scroll, in the language of the Essenes, the mystical sect that appeared 500 years before the time of Jesus of Nazareth, The war scroll describes where we are right now. So it's ancient, but it's not obsolete. It's current. We are living what is called the battle between the sons of darkness and the sons of light.

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And I said this at a live event a couple of weeks ago, and there's a woman in the audience that took offense because she felt it was sexist. And so I want to clarify, 2,500 years ago, they weren't dealing with gender issues that we are today. So sons of darkness and sons of light is all-inclusive, male and female. Okay, so I just want to clarify that.

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That battle between the sons of darkness and the sons of light, it plays out in insidious ways. Sometimes that battle is kinetic, and we're seeing that on boots on the ground in a number of places around the world today. Often that battle is psychological, and we're seeing this play out in social media. The battle between the sons of darkness and the sons of light

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Sometimes we can do some good things in terms of ecology and engineering, But the point is we've always been able to look and say if we don't like what we did, we can change that, maybe go back to what we had before.

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The goal of that battle is to veil human kind from their power and from their potential, from their divinity. Having access to our divinity frees us from fear, and fear is a prized commodity in the battle between good and evil.

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When we are freed of fear, when we learn to love without fear and forgive without fear and imagine freely and create freely and share information freely and heal our bodies, because we're wired to heal our bodies, these are all expressions of our divinity. When we are veiled, we can't lose it, but we can be veiled from it.

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We'll always have it, but we may not always know that we have that divinity. That is a form of evil, and that form of evil is playing out in our lives and our world right now. Right now. And the goal is to disempower our humanness so that we are more vulnerable to the ideas and the agendas and ultimately the control of others. And we're seeing that. That's not a secret. We're seeing that play out.

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We aren't often given the opportunity to think of it within this larger context. The thing about a battle between good and evil, the old ideas of a battle, are where forces are actually pitted against one another. This is a very different kind of battle on the spiritual level. This is Know Thyself podcast. The deeper we know ourselves,

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we discover that we don't want to win this battle because that would imply that we are meeting force with force. And we're more than that. We're more than that. We're human. And in our humanness, we don't win, we triumph. And the way that we triumph is by living our humanness, being the best version of ourselves, living, loving, healing, creating, imagining, innovating freely.

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What sets today apart, Andre, from any other time in our history is that for the first time in the 200,000 years of our existence, 10,000 generations ago is when we emerged on this planet. That's really not that long ago. For the first time, we have the ability not only to change the world around us, but to forever change the world within us, to change our very biology.

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That is how we triumph over this battle between good and evil. And so within that context, now you begin to see the transhuman movement. And I'm not saying everyone in the transhuman movement is aware of what we're talking about. They're pawns. Many of them are pawns. But when you go up into a higher level, this is exactly what's happening.

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The movement, the mass movement to shield humankind from their truest nature, to shield humankind from their divinity in a world that is being conditioned that's not good for us. So this is all part of the big picture. Now, you don't have to know any of that. The beauty is you don't have to know any of that. You just, you live the best version of yourself.

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And you live it to the best of your ability, knowing that ultimately when you do that, you are triumphing in this battle between good and evil. And what is so interesting is in the scrolls, they identify seven battles that happen between the sons of darkness and the sons of light. Three of those are won by the sons of darkness. Three are won by the sons of light. That's only six.

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The seventh battle. according to the scrolls, is won by the sons of light. However, the caveat is it is only won after the sons of light accept their own divinity and through divine intervention from a higher power, whatever that means. So it implies that by us accepting the deep truth of who we are, that opens the door to a deeper connection to a greater power.

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that allows us to transcend, to triumph, not to win, but to triumph in this ancient and ongoing battle. And that context, I think, changes everything. Because here's what it does, Andre. We're living in a world, and it's up for everybody right now. We're all going to get through this, and we're all going to be okay. And it's not going to last forever. There's a little window of time

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where these fundamental shifts are happening. And when this is over, I would love to come back and sit in this chair and have this conversation with you and let's see how it all went down. But the key for all of us, we're going to get through it. The question is, what do we become in the presence of what life brings to our doorstep when we're going through the battle?

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What do we allow the events of the world to make us into? Do we allow the events unfolding in the world, whether it's politics or war or finances or a pandemic or whatever it is, or our personal lives? It's up for us in our personal lives, our relationship, because it's all connected. Do we allow those events to drive us to the most primal,

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denominator, the lowest common denominator of our human instincts? Do those events drive us to hate, to want revenge, to fear? Or do those events awaken within us the deep truth of our love, our compassion, our forgiveness? And when we do have to fight, and sometimes we do, and I'm not saying it's a kinetic battle, but there's a part of all of us that has to create boundaries in our lives.

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And when someone crosses those boundaries, we have to express ourselves, but here's the thing. Do we fight from our love of what we know is possible and in support of those behind us, our family and our friends and our loved ones, or do we fight from our hate and from our fear of what we think is the enemy in front of us? That is the most fundamental battle.

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And when we make those changes in our biology, unlike the external world, we can't go back. Once we make the shift in engineering our immune system, for example, and replacing our own immune system with technology that creates the limited immunity for us, or very specified kinds of immunity, the body begins to say, well, maybe you don't need me to do what I did in the past.

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And we're all up against this right now. And especially, we're in the United States of America. We're seeing a divided nation right now. And I'm not saying everyone thinks or needs to think on this level. I'm not saying that. But ultimately what I'm seeing happening, this is exactly what's happening. We have just gone through a very difficult couple of years for a number of reasons.

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We can't change what happened, but we can change how we respond to what happened. What did those years do to us? What did we allow those years to do to us? Did we allow the events of the world to define who we are or do we choose? to become more than those events, that is the difference between access to our divinity and not having access to our divinity.

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Those who are veiled from their divinity believe they have no choice, they're in fear, and they will succumb to the dark forces, the evil, the groupthink, the hate, whatever you want to call it. They'll succumb to that. And they're still our brothers and sisters. And so I think all we can do is love. We're going to love this world into a better place. And we're going to love this world.

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Our love becomes the bridge for those who are lost and haven't found that love in their lives for whatever reason, without any judgment. Somebody's got to do it first. And so as we find a way to love to the best of our abilities, then we become the bridge for someone else, either by example or energetically in the field. You don't even have to know what's happening to love.

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That was really powerful. This is important because if you don't know, and it's no secret. I mean, if you watch, we're musicians. You watched the Grammys a couple of years ago. There were pure satanic rituals that were playing out under the guise of entertainment.

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On the stage, if you watch, this is the year 2024, if you watch the Olympics in France, why would the pale horse of death need to ride down the river to open... a ceremony for the best of the best, beautiful young athletes on our planet to compete. They're not even trying to hide it anymore, Andre.

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It's out. And there were other things, you know, the Last Supper, you know, all those things that were happening. They're not even trying to hide it because this battle is up for all of us. And I'm not saying everyone has to think this way. Know thyself is one aspect, and we've also heard that knowledge is power, and lack of knowledge is lack of power.

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So if we don't know that we are in this fundamental battle, not to win, but to triumph, then it's easy to get locked into the thinking, and it's easy. And there's a difference between judgment and discernment. I want to be really clear about this. It's not to judge that evil at all. That's where you get stuck.

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When you judge, you create a charge, and that charge is going to bring it into your life every time. You discern. You recognize. Is this evil? Yep, that's evil. I think I don't want that in my life or for my children. You allow its existence, but you walk away from it in your life. That's very different than hate. That's very different than fear.

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And these are the spiritual, the deepest spiritual principles that are up for all of us right now. It's a spiritual and a psychological battle that's happening right now. But other than that, not much going on. I'm an optimist. I'm laughing not at what we said. I'm smiling and laughing at the joy of the triumph Because we're human. This is the whole point. We are human.

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We are the only form of life that has ever been given the gifts of divinity and the ability to self-regulate our own biology at will, on demand, when we choose. No other form of life can do that. And there's been a concerted effort for decades to denigrate our humanness and to discourage young people from having confidence in life and in their own bodies.

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Do we allow the events unfolding in the world to drive us to hate? Or do those events awaken within us the deep truth of our love, our compassion, our forgiveness? It all comes down to love. Do we love ourselves enough?

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And that's reflected in a lot of choices that I see young people in our events and they say, we don't have a future. We can't think about retirement. We can't think about our dreams. We don't think the world is going to be here for us. And that's sad to me because there's so much good stuff happening. And when you begin to see what our humanness is really all about, the humans must prevail.

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And so one generation, that becomes the way things are done, the next generation through what we call epigenetics. Next generation, children are born and the body says, oh, you know, we don't do it that way anymore. That's a vestige of our past because now we have a new way, a chemical base to develop our immune system. And that's just one example.

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I love it when you talk that way. I couldn't say that better. That's a beautiful summary of what we're saying here. And I just want to acknowledge, I know for a lot of people, it's a very different way of thinking. It is a very different way of thinking. Also, I had an interesting exchange with someone recently.

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And in many ways, and you've heard me say this, I think the new thought, new age movement opened the door to a lot of possibilities. In many ways, it disempowered people. by leading them to believe things that are not necessarily true about themselves and fearing many things.

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So I had a woman say to me, Greg, you shouldn't talk about these things because if you talk about it, you're going to make them happen. that the energy is going to follow the thinking. And she's afraid to think of certain things because if she thinks that it's going to happen, this is the fallacy. And I don't want people to ever be afraid.

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One of the gifts of our humanness is our ability to think and simulate in our minds All possibilities, just on a down-to-earth, grounded basis. We do this when you get into a new relationship with a potential partner. We simulate all the time what could happen. Could this look long-term? Could I have children with these people? Is this person going to be honest with me?

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Or are they going to betray me? Can I trust them with my deepest feelings? you know, my deepest sharings. That's simulating in the mind that we go through all of this. So we all do the simulation. To think about something does not give it life.

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And this is where the Gnostic texts that were edited out of the modern biblical canon by the church, but were discovered, and these were discovered in 1945 in Nag Hammadi, the Nag Hammadi library. are very clear about this. It's not what you think about. It's the energy that you place into the thought.

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Your love for what you think or your fear of what you are thinking will breathe life into that thought to simply think about it. Yeah. is not a sin and it is not dangerous to consider we're the only form of life that can do that.

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So to think about the polarities of the world and light and dark expressed as good and evil and to discern that evil is present in this organization or in this entertainment does not bring an end to our lives. And I think it's important to make that distinction because I know people that are afraid to think about certain things because they're scared to death it's gonna bring it in their lives.

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So here we are at the precipice of giving our humanness away to technology, replacing our bodies with synthetics and replacing our biology with with synthetics within a context of a belief system that says we're flawed to begin with, and there's no reason not to do this.

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It's not the thought, it's your fear of that thought, your love of that thought.

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Well, it is. So now let's go back to the beginning of this conversation. What's happening in our world? We all know the world's different. The world is changing. The world feels like it's coming apart at the seams for no apparent reason. The world feels like it's in chaos. And if you're not looking at the big picture, I can see where it would be.

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But what we're experiencing on this planet right now, it's not spontaneous. It is organized. It's not random. It is systematic. We are barreling down the road toward an endpoint that has been identified by organizations, beings, and powers that be right around the year 2030. Something is incoming 2030.

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And what you're seeing are the power structures of the world jockeying for position to be in the best place when that happens. UN is part of that. That's why they've designated, they didn't say United Nations Sustainable Development Goals 2031, you know, or 2035. And the WEF is looking at 2030.

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And financial institutions are ending the loan programs and banking things, all looking at that 2030 window of time. There are powers that be that believe that the world needs to be remade by the year 2030, and part of that remaking is the remaking of the human body. So this conversation is very relevant. The opening keynote at the World Economic Forum in 2022,

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was a keynote where the statement was made that human biology is now hackable. We are a hackable technology is the way they're looking at us. And because we are hackable, we have what in computer lingo was called right code permission or right level permission to change the code. Part of the remaking of the world around us cannot be complete until they remake the world within us.

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This is what is called the fourth industrial revolution or the great reset. The digitization of the world and the human body into a common system that can be regulated by a massive AI. It's the matrix. Well, where does the matrix come from? And where do those ideas come from?

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I did. I'm honored. I did, of course, man. You have somebody every week. I don't know how you even do that. So thank you.

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where the best science of the modern world is telling us just the opposite, the real science, not the pop science that you see in the magazine covers in the airports and cable news network, things like that, but the real science behind the scenes. Andre, the new discoveries are showing us nothing short of the immensely extraordinary beings that we are.

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Yes. So now I go back to the beginning of the conversation. Our planet, if the goals are met, is being engineered into an ecosystem and into a climatic scenario that's not good for us. The wars, the depletion of our resources, depletion of population, the depletion of humankind to engage in the wars, that's not good for us. The replacement of our biology with technology is not good for us either.

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on an evolutionary level because it stunts our ability for biological evolution. It's not good for us on a moral level because we're giving away our humanness. We're giving away the biology that is the link to our divinity. Without the body, there is no link to that divinity. And that, for me, that's the battle. Is the forces, the powers that be want to veil and shield us from our divine essence.

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They want us to forget who we are and believe that we're powerless beings and succumb to the technology that can be integrated and controlled. And I think that's what's up for us right now. We are about to give away our humanness before we even know what it means to be human. So that... is the context, the really good news, is all the new science that is now revealing.

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Once they stopped looking at the human body from the perspective of biology, once they started looking at the biology from an IT, an engineering perspective, this is such a different way of thinking. You know, what happens with ion potentials moving across the cell wall? That's a very different way. And how can we, how adapt are we at doing that on demand?

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You know, when we choose self-regulating our immune system, self-regulating our resilience, our super learning, super memory, super capacity, all of that stuff. And we're only beginning to understand really the potential of what and who we are. At the same time, we're about to give it away, at least a portion of our society.

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And what I think will happen, and we've talked about this a little bit, I think you're seeing two parallel societies emerge right now at the same time. you're seeing a group, a segment of our population who is all in on everything, all the tech in their bodies, out of their bodies, the newest gadgets, newest devices, computer chips in the brain, bring it on because they don't know any different.

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They don't know who they are. They don't know what they're giving away. They don't know the consequences of what that is. All they know is maybe life feels easier, but at what price? What price do we pay for the efficiency and the speed of a computer chip in the brain? And is it worth that price?

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And you see another part of society, like my friend in the supermarket co-op, who says, you know, something's not right. It's moving too fast. We need to go back to a simpler society. way of life. We need to grow our own food, take care of our own bodies, take care of our neighbors, teach our kids at home because we don't like what they're learning in the public schools.

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They don't know all the stuff necessarily we're talking about, but they know something's not right. And you're seeing both of those at the same time.

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So here's where I think we'll go, because we're going to do what humans always do. We're going to go down those paths, or we're going to check each other out, because humans check each other out. And we're going to say, who's happier? Who's healthier? Whose lives are more fulfilled? And the answer to that question, I think, will determine ultimately where those paths go. engage.

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We are literally a highly advanced, technologically sophisticated, soft technology. Hard technology is computer chips, as we said, and chemicals and sensors under the skin. But we're more than that as human. We're neurons and cell membranes and DNA with the ability to morph and adapt to our environment as that environment changes.

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And I think at some point, we will probably see some kind of emerging where we don't reject the technology in mass. We just don't accept it into our bodies, where we appreciate the AI, let the AI do what AI does for us, but not be enslaved by the AI. And now that we know the potentials, the epigenetic potentials of the human body, let's Let's develop those. And that's why I'm excited.

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I think this is a critical point. I was honored and privileged in the 1990s to tour with a number of amazing leaders, scientists, and engineers. And among those was John Mack, the Harvard-trained psychologist. head of his department of psychiatry, who became well known because of his effort to legitimize a phenomenon that at that time was called alien abduction phenomenon.

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People all over the world saying that they had been taken by an advanced form of life onto these craft for a number of reasons. And Before John Mack came along, these were chalked up to hallucinations, mental illness. They weren't really acknowledged. He legitimized this. He said, look, it's happened all over the world. Let's study this as a science. Let's document it.

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Let's see where the common themes are. And one of the things that they found was from Brazil to North America, all through Europe, no matter where it was, people would ask the question, that I'm sure you and I would ask if it were to happen to us. You know, why me? Why did you take me? What's happening here? And there were two scenarios. that were really well documented.

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One of those scenarios was that the beings either verbally or sometimes telepathically would say that they are an advanced form of life that crossed a path in their past where we are right now. where they had to choose between biology and technology. They chose technology. They gave their biology away. They're sorry for that choice. It didn't work out well for them.

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They want their biology back and they're encouraging us not to go the technological path. So that was one set of scenarios. The other one to me is really fascinating. Because the beings were not alien beings from another world. They were us, humans from our own future, who were coming back and saying, you're at the point now where you're about to give your humanness away.

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We are the result of that. And they weren't kind-looking beings. They'd lost their abilities to reproduce sexually. Everything was asexual. They lost their emotion, sympathy, empathy, compassion, all of that, and they want it back. And so they're hoping that first by warning us not to make the choice in their past, that it will change what happens in their future.

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And secondly, they're hoping that some of our DNA can at least give them back some semblance of their own humanness. So whether we believe either one of those stories,

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I think it's interesting they're both pointing in the same direction, and they're saying there's something about us that is so beautiful and powerful, precious, ancient, that we have forgotten who we are, and we've forgotten this force within us, for lack of a better term, we call divinity. You know, we never defined divinity.

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That term in this conversation, the contemporary definition of divinity simply means the ability to transcend perceived limitations. And that's it. Transcend, become more than, perceived, those limits may not even be real. We've accepted them. We've been indoctrinated to accept them through science and religion and community and society and culture, but they may not even be real.

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And in many cases, we not only meet, but we exceed the capacity of the computer chips and the artificial intelligence. And there are studies that have been done recently, the Salk Institute here in California, for example. compared a human brain to a microprocessor. And the way they did that is really interesting. They equated the synapses in the brain with the transistors on the computer chip.

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Well, we're doing it naturally. We're doing it through our own biology. And that's it. And I can see why there would be an attempt to veil that from us because it empowers us to the degree that it does. So those stories, I think, they all come back to the same story. There's something inside of us that is rare and precious. We're awakening to what that is. The science is doing so in its way.

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Culturally, we're learning about it in our own ways, and it's all happening within this umbrella, this ancient scenario of a fundamental battle between good and evil. And the goodness is us. accepting our own divinity and empowering ourselves. And it all comes down to love. Maybe that's a good way to close this conversation. The question is, do we love ourselves enough?

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Do we love ourselves enough to accept the deep truth of what it means to be human and the responsibility of human divinity? And the choices we make in our lives right now are the answer to that question.

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For any of our viewers that were not with us last time, I'll say is there is an emerging philosophy in the world crossing the boundaries of many of the sciences, and you encapsulate it through the words, consciousness informs itself through its creations.

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And what it suggests is that the things we build in the world around us are telling us something important that we are asking ourselves to remember collectively. So books, music, You know, movies, things like that, that we think are entertainment, and they are. but they may be more than simply entertainment.

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They may be, there may be a theme in those that is asking us to remember something about ourselves. And if that's true for books and sculpture and dance and art and music, it must hold for technology. So now we look at the most advanced technologies that are being built in the world around us. And we say, what is that technology asking us to remember about ourselves? And you look at the themes.

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I mean, the internet is all about connectivity. And now we know that we are entangled. The Nobel Prize for Physics in 2022 was for the discovery and the confirmation of what we call entanglement of matter. We are all connected. That was Nobel Prize. Look at DNA and the way that DNA stores information.

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What we now know is that every successful genetic mutation species-wide that has been accepted is stored. And we have a walking library of this. But look at the qualities. It is transparent. Anybody that knows how to read it, it's right there. You can't hide it. It is secure. It is immutable.

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And interestingly, the numbers for both are very, very close. And they made the calculations, and with the bottom line, what they found was that the human brain is 100-fold faster and more adaptable to the kinds of information that's coming in than the computer chip can be. And let me just round that out by explaining why, because this is one of the things that sets us apart.

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And those are the very qualities that are the foundation for the revolution in decentralized finance and what we call blockchain technology. The blockchain software actually is built to mimic the way information is stored in human DNA. Consciousness is informing itself through its creation. Here we are building blockchain. What are we asking ourselves to remember?

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The same thing is true with all kinds of communications and all of these. So I'm not surprised that we would be attracted, both as adults and young people, to films that remind us of the part of ourselves that we sense is available, but we've lost and we so long for our wholeness. Our prime directive in life is to find our wholeness, to seek our wholeness.

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And we will find other people to have relationships with, to seek our wholeness that will hold pieces of their conscious experience that we've lost, given away, or had taken from us and ours. That is what the attraction is. It's like a magnet. When you're with someone that has the pieces that you've lost, you say, actually, I feel whole or I feel complete or I feel really good with this person.

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And we do. Because when you're together, you feel that wholeness and completeness. So our prime directive, we want that wholeness. And the films that reflect the ideas of our superpowers. That's why young people are so drawn. You know, The Avengers, Wonder Woman, Harry Potter, exploring our relationship with the natural world. That's why we're drawn to the movie Avatar.

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That was the highest grossing box office film until 2024. I think it was the highest grossing box office film of all time. It exceeded even The Matrix. The Matrix, you mentioned that. The Matrix is my dear spiritual brother, my 30 plus year friend and colleague, Dr. Bruce Lipton. We were touring Europe on a train in 1999 when that film came out. I remember Bruce looked at me.

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He was in a seat across from me, and that movie had come out. And I said, hey, brother, you want to see this film? It just came out. And he got his Bruce Lipton look, and he's very serious. He says, oh, people think that's science fiction. He goes, it's a documentary. Because it was telling us there's a world that we cannot see

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that influences a world that we can see and that we exist in both those worlds. Of course, there was the Hollywood shoot-em-up and Neo bending over backwards 90 degrees as the bullets go by in slow motion. And that made it all cool. But you look at the theme. There's a world that we cannot see that influences what happens every day. And we're in both those worlds. Avatar.

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our relationship to the natural world is vital. And that's what those, Inception, did you ever see the film Inception? It was about the ability to consciously drop into lucid dream states And then from one lucid dream state to go to a deeper dream state and then a deeper dream. So it was dream within dream within dream.

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And people that had learned to do that would meet and rubber stamp business deals, entire business deals would be happening. And then they'd walk into the boardroom the next day and it was a done deal. And everybody else was looking around saying, what just happened? But to them, it had already been done. It was a deep movie. It didn't stay in the theaters very long.

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Any technology is going to be limited by the physics of the stuff it's made of. Right now, computer chips typically are silicon. If you go to the periodic table and you look at a little map of a silicon atom, what makes that silicon, silicon is never gonna change. And the distance between those atoms and the geometric arrangement of the atoms to make the silicon isn't going to change.

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Yeah, but all of these, the point, all of these are reminding us of something about ourselves. And if we have the wisdom to recognize it, Andre, we can have fun with it. And say, it's fun to do that, to go through movies that are available to us and say, what is this movie telling me about myself? What is the movie reminding us about our relationship to the world around us? Some are very blatant.

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Some are more subtle. Some are just crummy movies and there's no message. I'm not saying it's every single one, but I think we see a predominance of that.

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It is. It's different for everyone. And I think it all comes down to love. Do we love ourselves enough? I'm going to look right in the camera to our community, and I'll be very personal. Do you love yourself enough to honestly embrace the deep truth of what it means to be a human?

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in the earth realm at this time in history, and the responsibility that comes with your humanness as a bridge to your divinity. And I think that's all we can ask of ourselves. What does that mean? It means living the best version of ourselves, living our joy. Where's our passion? Where's our creativity?

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But being kind as we achieve those goals, not ruthlessly stepping on the backs of all of the friends around us to get to that goal, But being kind to ourselves, being kind to one another as we learn about our power and as we learn to love, to love without fear. A lot of people, everyone loves, I think, to some degree.

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Many of us have been hurt in our love and there's a reluctance to surrender our love to something greater. in relationship, maybe with another person or maybe with God or maybe with whatever our passion, whatever it is. But because we've been hurt, we hold a little bit back just in case it doesn't work out. Divinity frees us and allows us to love fully. And in that fullness,

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we surrender our personal sense for something more and something greater that can only be achieved by loving fully. Forgiving without fear. without expectation. Many people forgive and then they look around to see who just saw them do the forgiving because they want some kind of acknowledgement or recognition.

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True forgiveness comes from within and there may be no one that ever knows that forgiveness has happened. But this is a powerful part of our divinity. Our healing begins in divinity. Our healing is an inside job, and it has to begin with our sense of ourselves. Our sense of worth is certainly a big part of this. We don't feel worthy of our own healing.

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How's the body going to receive the signal to kick those chemicals in the process and begin the healing? So our healing is a powerful part of our divinity. Imagination, many people are afraid to imagine, or now the kids, kids, young people are using AI.

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They will create, they will write the words to a song with AI, seven to 10 minutes, where it used to take, you know, maybe a day or a couple of days to find those words. And then 10 minutes later, the AI will put the music to the song and now they've kicked something out that was all done artificially. And that influences the biology of the body. It influences the way we think, the way we feel.

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And information can only flow so fast between those. It's limited by the physics. that makes the silicon, silicon. So you say, what is the scalability of a computer chip? And what we have to say is that the scalability is finite. And you mentioned this Moore's law, was a law referencing the doubling, not only of information, but the doubling of computer speeds and chips as well.

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Is it a form of creativity? Sure. And we have to just be honest and ask ourselves, how much of ourselves do we want to give away to the technology and to the machines around us? So living the best version of ourselves means the ability to create, to imagine, to share. Sovereignty is a big part of that. Divinity is freedom. Humans are meant to express freely.

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And anything that steals from us our sovereignty is not good for us. Anything that steals from us our ability to imagine, our ability to create, our ability to heal, our ability to love, our ability to forgive, Anything that veils that from us is a form of evil.

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And from that perspective, the transhuman movement in mass to be imposed upon a global population, from my perspective, is a form of evil. And I think it's important to recognize that.

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It's a different way of thinking, and I'm acknowledging that. And what I think it's important is to be aware, knowledge is power, to be aware of the structure and the framework that is driving the change in the world so that you're not afraid of it. Don't be afraid of the change. Be aware that there's a fundamental battle to veil our truest potential.

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And the way that you triumph in that battle is to live your potential. Live your potential joyously. Celebrate your humanness. And I think what I'd like to leave our viewers with, and I think probably the greatest task for any of us, is to preserve, protect, and cherish the gift of our bodies.

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Because our bodies, as our ancestors told us, are the temple that houses something beautiful and precious. And we now know that that is our divinity. Ancient traditions always, when they built the temples in Egypt or Greece, they would build them in layers. And the innermost sanctum always held the highest knowledge and the most precious wisdom.

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If our body is a temple, we have not one holy of holies is what they were called, but we have 50 trillion holy of holies because every cell in our body holds the DNA that tunes us to our love and our healing and our forgiveness. and our imagination, creativity, and healing. That is our divinity.

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So I think our greatest task in this world is to preserve, protect, and cherish the gift of our bodies. And in that way, we honor our divinity and we honor what it means to be human.

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Every 18 to 24 months. 18 to 24 months. We now are at almost the quantum level where it has happened so fast that we are up against the limits on a quantum level. And Then you ask the question, what about a human neuron? What about our limits?

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And this is, it's so beautiful because every time the scientists and the medical teams, they push a human neuron up against what has been perceived to be a limit in the past, we do what humans do. We morph and we adapt to that limit, opening a new vista, an entire new vista of potential that was unknown previously. So that when we say, what is our scalability?

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Andre, it is so good to be back in the Know Thyself New and Improved studio, that new mics, and I'm appreciating being in exactly the place where so many of my brothers and sisters, colleagues, and people I've never met but I admire tremendously have been. It's an honor to be here with you. It's been a few months, and we're in a very different world now, and this is unscripted.

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What we have to say honestly right now is we don't know. Right now, it appears the scalability of a human neuron is infinite. And that's only one example of where we're being conditioned to believe that the technology is our savior, that the AI and the computer chips are the savior at the cost, the very high price of relinquishing our humanness.

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And we begin replacing our biology with that technology. That's how you lose a species. That's exactly how you lose a species.

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Sure. When I released the early copies of the book, Pure Human, for review, I had feedback from some scientists and technologists about this very topic. For our viewers at this time, as we're having this conversation, the book is not available commercially right now. So these are review copies.

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The book is a celebration of our humanness and hopefully the invitation to develop a deeper appreciation for just what it means to be human so that maybe we're not so fast to relinquish our humanists, at least not before we know what it is that we're giving away. When I got those reviews from some of the technologists, what they believe is that this is the next step in human evolution.

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I disagree with that because this is an artificial evolution. It's a forced evolution, and it is at the expense of relinquishing the extraordinary biology that allows us to be who we are in place of the technology. In other words, replacing us with the technology rather than taking that biology and developing it to another level. So it is a form of evolution. It's not a natural evolution.

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It's an artificial evolution. And I talk about this in the book a little bit. I'm going to say this right now. It's not good for us.

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When you look at where the technological revolution that we're seeing right now, where it's leading, and what the logical outcome is within the context of all the other things that are happening in the world, we are geoengineering this planet in a way that is not good for us, pushing the carbon dioxide levels down to dangerous, dangerous levels that are near extinction levels in the geologic past.

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That's not good for us. pushing the temperatures down an average of 10 degrees Fahrenheit from 59 to actually more than that, about 46 degrees Fahrenheit, that's not good for us. We are creating wars between the superpowers, expending weapons and manpower, depleting our abilities as a planet to defend ourselves. That's not good for us.

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Now we are in the process of being indoctrinated to accept technology into our bodies, relinquishing our biology and our divinity, our divine qualities of empathy, sympathy, emotion, compassion, forgiveness, creativity, innovation, imagination. Those are all facets of human divinity that are lost when we replace our biology with technology. That's not good for us. So is it a form of evolution?

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It's an artificial or a forced evolution. It's not a natural evolution. And in my opinion, and in defense of our humanness, this is why I wrote the book, at least to bring an awareness to what it is that we're about to give away before we give it away. Because once again, once we do, we cannot go back.

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You know, one of the beautiful things, I worked in the high-tech industry from 1979 till mid-90s. And I saw amazing technology. Someone was here in California during the Cold War years. I worked on Norton Air Force Base, Vandenberg Air Force Base, not far from here. Amazing technology. I mean, laser technology and communications and radar.

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And as sophisticated as they all were, Andre, I never, to this day, I've never seen any technology built in the world around us that doesn't mimic what we already do in ourselves, except we do it better

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And the beauty of this inner technology, one of the things I learned when I was in the industry is that the more complex, the more sophisticated the system is behind the scenes, the simpler the user interface. We are so complex. We are such an advanced form of soft technology that the user interface is deceptively simple. Thought, feeling, emotion, breath, focus, movement, nutrition.

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Social engineering, to a degree, we've never seen in our world before. And leading to a world of centralized power and control. So let me, I'll just give you an example. Food security. Everybody wants food security. I'm down with that, you know, 100%. Now you read the fine print. You would think they would want to help small agrarian families in rural areas throughout the world.

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Their idea of food security is to pump money into the big pharma and the big agriculture, corporate farms, GMO seeds, GMO insects to take care of these things. And what's happening is the little farmers are being forced out of business in the rural areas, not just in America. This is happening all over the world. And it's what it says on their website.

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I mean, they're telling you how they want to achieve these things. So the small guys get forced out of business. These big corporate farms, they come in and they're buying up the farmland throughout America and throughout the world. That's not good for us. That's not good for us. Some of the climate goals that they're looking at.

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I'm hesitant to get into this because each one could be an entire program, but let me just share. I want to share something with you and you probably, you may not be aware of this. As a degree geologist, I did a little experiment in January of 23 and I said, let's look at these climate goals because we're being led to believe that we are the problem. We humans Fossil fuels are the problem.

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So rather than pushing back, let's just accept it. What would the world look like if we met every one of those goals? So let's take carbon dioxide, for example. Right now, CO2 levels about 420-ish parts per million. And I haven't looked in the last few months. I don't know, but it's in that ballpark. Is it high? Higher than it was 10 years ago? Absolutely. Is it higher than it was 50 years ago?

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Absolutely. Is it the highest it's ever been on our planet? As a geologist, I can tell you absolutely not. We've had times during the Cretaceous and the Jurassic periods where 1,000 parts per million, 2,000 parts per million, and life, Earth was lush, green, life thrived. It was a little bit warmer. It wasn't unbearably warm. The ice melted. The sea levels rose. And here's the interesting thing.

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What you see on those geologic maps is sometimes the CO2 levels are high and the temperatures are low. At times the temperatures are high and the CO2 levels are low. They're not necessarily 100% directly correlated. So if we were to meet the goals, right now the UN is proposing right around two, I think if we met the goals, we would see a CO2 level right around 220 or so parts per million.

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Now most people say, okay, what's the big deal? Extinction level CO2 on this planet, when the CO2 drops below a certain level, forests die and life does no longer thrive. That is 180 parts per million. Wow. Now, the CO2 on Earth, it's not like you can take a little dial and fine tune and click, you know, by 10 parts per million here and there. I mean...

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If they knock it back to the 220s, we're about 36, where's that, 36 away from parts per million away from the 180. That is really, really bad for us. So as a geologist, I went to the charts and I said, when was the last time we saw that on this planet? And it was during a time we call the Pleistocene era. We saw low levels of carbon dioxide, forests died, temperatures dropped.

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Right now our average global temperature is about 59 degrees Fahrenheit. These proposals would drive it back to 46 degrees Fahrenheit. which means we'd have more ice in northern hemisphere, forest died, extinction levels. Here's the bottom line. It's not good for us. Those proposals are not good for humans. And you say, well, who's it good for? There's a whole conversation around that.

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So that's one thing right there. Now let's take it to the next level. Let's look at what's happening. We are being encouraged to have conflict. Right now, the wars, you see very few people trying to back off and deescalate. Everybody's full scale ahead. Now, hopefully that's going to change.

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But at the time of this conversation, there's a very real concern of the kind of wars that we haven't seen since the Cold War in the 1980s with nuclear weapons. What is the outcome of that? What we see is we're being encouraged for the nations of the world to deplete their weapons, deplete their resources, deplete their manpower. All right. That's not good for us. And that's happening.

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So now we've got a remaking of the planet that's not good for us. We've got a remaking of our defenses that's not good. And now you look at society. And the social bonds that hold us together as families and communities and societies are systematically being dismantled. It started right around 2014 with the Occupy movement, the rich against the poor, which is an important conversation.

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We need to have it in a kind way to solve the problem, but it was weaponized to divide us. rather than used as a way to bring us together. And then it went from that to men against women. Important conversation. It was weaponized. It went blacks against whites, Christians against Muslims, Jews against Muslims. Now men against women again, adults against children, the whole gender issue.

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And when we allow ourselves to get drawn in to these conversations that hit those primal instincts that elicit states of consciousness, that betray our very nature, they elicit hate, they elicit revenge, they elicit fear. That steals from us the very essence of our humanness. And I'm going to talk about that here in just a moment. So now that's being happening.

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You put this all together and you begin to look. There's a systematic movement to remake this world in a way. I'm 70 years old. I've never seen this in my 70 years. Really? Here's where this is different from any time in the past. A systematic movement to remake the world around us and a systematic movement to remake the world within us. Because we now have the technology.

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to change the biology of our bodies, to change what it means to be human. And we are the prize, Lewis. This is what I want to say. This is what our viewers to know. I want people to have a deeper appreciation and be proud of our humanness because it's through our humanness that we have access to something that no other form of life has. And that is

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I'll use the word, and then I'll define it, and then we can have a conversation about it. The word is human divinity. For many people, divinity is linked with religion, and I can see why. There are schools of divinity that have been built to make that association, but the contemporary definition of divinity has nothing to do with religion.

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It literally reads, divinity is the ability to transcend perceived limitations. Transcend means to become more than perceived. I love this. They may not even be real. We may be living limits in our lives. And as a 14-year-old boy from a dysfunctional alcoholic family, I was told what my limits as a man, as a human would be.

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And this is where I began to push against those limits and test those limits. Now, I didn't know then, obviously, what I know now. But the ability to transcend the limits that we've been indoctrinated through family, culture, society, science, medicine, have all led us to believe we've got limits. And here's the thing. New discoveries are blowing the doors off every one of those limits.

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Consciousness informs itself. through its creations. The technology that we're building in the world around us is reminding us that we are that technology, that within us, we have the capabilities as what we now call soft technology, not computer chips and chemicals in the blood and wires under the skin. We're more than that. We're human, we're neurons and we're DNA and we're cell membranes.

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And we have the ability to self-regulate this soft technology in a way that no other form of life has. And here's the beauty, and this is every guest you've ever had, is hitting on one facet of this technology. When I was in the industry, what I learned is the more complex a system is, the simpler the user interface. You've probably seen that.

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I mean, pick up a cell phone, you touch the screen, and man, you can pay your bills and talk to your friends, and you never even, you never typed a letter. That's very sophisticated.

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Exactly, exactly. So our user interface is like that, and it is the subject of our most ancient and cherished spiritual traditions, thoughts, feelings, emotions, breath, focus, nutrient, and movement. That's our user interface. When we know how to bring those together in just the right way, we are awakening the potential of a soft technology that was given to no other form of life.

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And it's a very different way of thinking. So divinity, because we're covering a lot of ground here, Divinity is the essence of our humanness. Divinity is the part of us that's timeless. It's ageless. It's where our love begins. It's where sympathy, empathy, compassion, forgiveness, understanding to our healing begins is our divinity. So there is a concerted movement now.

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to veil us from our own divinity, to steal that power from us. Because when we are no longer connected with our divinity, we are more vulnerable to fear, more vulnerable to the agendas and the ideas of others, and more willing to accept other people's views of what our lives and what our world should look like.

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I didn't. I didn't reject them. I just didn't accept them. It wasn't safe in my family to reject anything. If you've been around alcoholism, that's very unpredictable. You know, your father comes home. You never know which father you're going to get. You never know how your conversation is going to be heard or responded to. So you're in survival mode a lot. You are in survival.

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Can I just do a little side journey on that just to show how deep that goes? I lost my mom during COVID. I wasn't ready for it. And it surprised me because I'm an adult and I'm 70. And I knew that I was going to lose her at some point. But when you're in a dysfunctional family, an alcoholic family like that, at least in our case, my mom is always my protector.

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And there was a part of me, not the grown adult Greg, but there was a part of my psychology when my mom passed that realized that my protector in this world was gone. Wow. And I ended up, I was twice in the hospital with heart issues. Really? That were not heart issues. They kept saying, Mr. Braden, there's- Psychological issues. Well, they call them somatic now, which was very kind.

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But it was funny. I mean, they went through all the tests and they said, Mr. Braden, you're really, really healthy. I said, there's nothing wrong with your heart. And I said, well, what am I feeling? And they said, the somatic, well, this is the doctor. He would come in and say, there's nothing wrong with you. I don't know why you're here in this hospital. I was in the ER.

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He said, I know why you're here in the ER. And then he left. A nurse came in. The first thing she did, she looked at me. Listen, she said, what's happening in your life? And I started to say the words, I just lost my mom. And I couldn't even get those words out. And I was just sobbing. I wasn't even crying. It was like gasping sobs. And she said, you're dealing with unresolved grief.

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And I said, okay, yeah, I know that. No surprise there. She said, grief? Not grief isn't bad, but the unresolved grief can actually have a physical influence on the little muscles in the chest around the heart. And if you don't know any better, and it's good to get it checked out. She said, you think you're having an episode, a heart episode. She says unresolved grief.

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I went to a grief counselor and went away and never came back.

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through grief counseling, redefining, and it's different for everyone. For me, I had to find a sense of safety, knowing that my protector was no longer in the world. And I say that because I know I'm not the only one. Other people have that experience, but that's how deep and how lasting those kinds of experiences go in our lives. The ability to resolve grief is a facet of human divinity.

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Well, I'm going to answer it in two ways. And this is not separate from this conversation we're having about human divinity. And I'm going to tie back into what we're now exploring. I just want to give context and structure here. We're exploring, getting into the nitty gritty of the power of human divinity and why we want it and what happens if we give it away.

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If we give our humanness away, we no longer have the abilities that I'm going to share right now. So this is, it's part of the conversation. So first of all, when someone feels that, it's always good to get it checked out because you don't know. You cannot determine unless it's happened in the past and you recognize this is exactly what happened in the past. You really can't determine.

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It's terrifying. It's scary. It is. It is. It is. And fortunately, we live in a city where we had, it's a small, Santa Fe, New Mexico. It's not a big 80,000 people. You know, it's not a big community, but we had, and I had good medical care. To answer the question, we have to understand what's really happening.

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Every emotion that we've ever had in our lives from the moment, even before we emerged into the world through the birth canal, while we're still in the womb, Every emotion that we're having has a chemical equivalent that is called... Candice Pert was the first Harvard-trained medical physician that linked emotion and chemicals in the body in a scientific way. Wow.

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I had the honor of knowing her before she passed in 2013. She wrote a book called Molecules of Emotion. I'm sure a lot of your viewers are familiar with that. And she identified these chemicals are called neuropeptides. Neuropeptides typically will be created by the emotion and they metabolize through the body. No big deal. Unless we're having an emotion that we can't resolve.

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Then the neuropeptides, our bodies are so smart. The neuropeptides will stay in the body. The body will actually store the neuropeptides, and this is where it gets really interesting, in the organs, tissues, and glands that we associate with our trauma. And everyone has trauma. And everyone's trying your trauma. You might have a trauma. And I look at it and say, what's the big deal?

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Because my filters interpret it differently. Or I would have a trauma and and you would look at it and say, come on, Greg, you know, suck it up and get over it because your filters are different. But we all have trauma and it's personalized. And those neuropeptides will stay with us 10 minutes or 70 years until we have the tools to resolve the the trauma.

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Sometimes they'll give you a little nudge to let you know they're still there. It might be a little irritation, might be a rash on the body or inflammation or swelling. And we will take a pill or put on a cream to make the symptom go away. But that neuropeptide is still there. And then they'll say, well, maybe you need a little bit more.

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a little bit more of a nudge, and then we start developing symptoms of things that we call illness and disease. This is so fascinating to me because the science is showing us rarely do our bodies break. Rarely do we have illness and disease. in the way we think we have it.

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What we are experiencing is our body in the presence of the conditions, the epigenetic conditions that we've given it to work with. It can be nutrition, it can be environment, and the most powerful environment is the emotional environment. Over 90% is the emotional environment. So rather than saying our bodies are broken,

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which ruins the trust that we have in our bodies, it's useful to say, what am I giving my body to work with? What is the environment, the emotion? And sometimes the emotional environment is a subconscious. In my case, it was subconscious. I had a subconscious fear of not being safe.

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Well, it makes sense because the first seven years averaged first seven years of a human life, we are in an altered state of consciousness. It's actually called a hypnagogic state is the term that psychologists use where we have very few of any filters. We are absorbing behavior patterns from our caregivers. This is nature's way of preparing us for life.

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Nature believes that we're going to be in the same environment that our parents are So we learned from our parents how to deal with conflict and how to treat people that you like and how to treat people you don't like. We mimic them. We do. Consciously and subconsciously. Consciously, those are the programs up until the age of seven. The Jesuits knew this.

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Maybe you've had other speakers talk about this. They would say, give us your sons, because it was a male organization. Give us your sons until the age of seven and they'll be ours forever. Wow. So what they meant, give them to us for this first seven years.

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They can go home to you, but they won't want to because they will be indoctrinated into the patterns of the Jesuits and their home life will no longer make sense. That's an example of how powerful those first seven years of life are. It's the programming, right? It's the programming. So the neuropeptides can stay in the body forever. as long as they need to.

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And there are techniques, breathwork techniques, heart-brain coherence. I know my brother Joe Dispenza, he and I have taught together, and we use these techniques. There are all kinds of body EFT and, you know, body memory therapy, and that's a whole conversation. But there are a lot of ways to resolve that.

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And it's fascinating to me because when we do resolve them through a breathwork session, for example, Those neuropeptides are made of chemicals in the body and elements, minerals. And you'll actually begin to taste metallic taste in your mouth or your urine. Your urine will smell funny because it's not the typical urine. These are chemicals.

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Or your tears or your perspiration will taste different and it'll smell different. You'll sweat and you'll smell different. when you're going through this because now those neuropeptides are metabolizing through the body, through body secretions.

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Body secretions. So it's tears, perspiration, saliva, sexual fluids, feces, all of those things is how we release. Wow. Oh, they've been fascinating. This goes back to the power. Human divinity is the part of us that's timeless, it's ageless, it's all-knowing. It is the part of us where our healing begins.

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And what the science is showing is that divinity doesn't live, those patterns don't live in our bodies. This is where it gets really, really interesting. It was already interesting, now it's gonna get really, really interesting. They don't live in the cells of our bodies.

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The cells of our bodies, the neurons, the DNA, and the cell membranes, literally our antenna, that tune us to an energetic place in the field that underlies all existence that we now know science confirmed it in the year 2012 at the The CERN superconducting supercollider, they actually announced it on July 4th in America, 4th of July, 2012, that there is a field that underlies all existence.

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2022, the Nobel Prize in Peace, no, in Physics. The Nobel Prize in Physics was given to the physicists that confirmed that in this field, everything's connected.

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It's an energetic field, and... And we are that field. Every human, the average human is about 50 trillion cells in the body, approximately, give or take. You've got more cells than I do because you're taller than I am. Oh, wow. And every one of those 50 trillion cells has about 100 trillion atoms. And every one of those atoms is doing this.

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It's emerging from that field and collapsing into that field every nanosecond of the day, like right this nanosecond. And as it emerges from the field, it is building our bodies to fit the template that we hold in our consciousness of who we are. And this is why healing is possible. This is why spontaneous healing is possible when we change the way we think and the way we feel.

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We change that blueprint. We change the template. And that information will now fill in a new and healthier blueprint. And this is all very well documented. I mean, the science knows the bits and pieces. Science is reluctant to. to bring them together because it tells a story that many scientists are reluctant to embrace. What's that? The story is that we are not what we've been told.

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We're more than we've been led to believe. And that is the essence of why I've written this book. Yeah. I'm going to answer that question for you right now. What I'm going to say is this, Lewis, there's something inside of us We humans, it is so powerful. It is so beautiful. It is so ancient. It is so precious.

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That there are organizations in the world today, and there always have been, societies in the past that will go to any length to shield us from that part of ourselves because that's where we find our power. When we are in our power, we are less vulnerable to fear.

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And fear, I think you'll agree, is probably the greatest commodity in a world that is moving toward the ability to create authority and centralize that authority. In the world, that is our divinity. This is why we are the prize. We are literally the prize.

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And I want to make this conversation relevant to our viewers because so many people, they write to us and we see the comments and say, okay, you know, these conversations are cool. What's that have to do with the world? And what's that have to do with my life right now? Yeah, the world out there. So here's what it has to do with the world that we're living in.

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That part of us that is so beautiful, powerful, ancient, precious, is the reason for everything we're seeing happening in the world. Those powers that be will stop at nothing to distract us and keep us diverted. Nations will go to war with nations. Economic systems will be collapsed. Pandemics will be unleashed. Climate will be engineered.

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Nations will rise and fall, all in an effort to distract us. Wow. Because we are the prize. The human body is the prize because our humanness is the link to our divinity. This is why I began talking about an ancient battle. There is an ancient battle between good and evil. And evil means different things to different people. But the ultimate evil is to shield a human from their divinity.

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When we are kept from our divine nature, our ability to love fearlessly, to forgive, to heal, to imagine, to innovate, to create, that is a form of evil. And that's a form that is playing out right now in this 2030 window of time.

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is the window of time when it is proposed that our humanness, our biology be replaced with technology, with AI, with computer chips, chemicals in the blood that mimic the systems that we do with synthetics, computer chips in the brain linking us to the computers now. And It's a very different way of thinking.

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Now, I'm a systems thinker, so I look at the big picture so that I understand where the nanosecond of my life fits into that big picture, and then I let it go. We don't have to know any of this, but I want people to know that what we're seeing, and it's not a crazy world. It's insane. It's not crazy. There is a method. There's a system. There's a process. And it won't last forever.

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It's this little window of time where you're seeing the powers that be jockey for position. And our humanness is a problem. Wow. Because we are such powerful beings. Nobody's telling our kids that. Our kids are being told that they're flawed forms of life, that they need something outside of themselves. to be the best version of themselves and to compete in business and compete in the world.

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So our kids are willing to give themselves away to virtual reality, to computer chips and I mean, I had some young people in one of my courses earlier. It was in the summer. And we were talking about Neuralink, the chip that the FDA just approved from Elon Musk. This is his company. And it allows a human without any wires at all to communicate directly with the hard drive on their computer.

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here's these young kids in the room and they're saying, this is cool. They're saying, Mr. Braden. And I said, no, please, Greg. And they said, okay, Greg. I said, I'm only 70. I'm not a Mr. Braden yet. They said, are you telling me that all I have to do is put a computer chip in my brain and I can play Grand Theft Auto with no wires?

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I can think, no controls. Sweet. Or there's some other words they use, but sweet. Right, right, right. Sweet was a lot of it because they don't realize the biological imperative. There is an adage in biology that says use it or lose it. Perfect example.

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When I was back in the 50s and 60s, I was taught, and you probably were when you were young as well, that we were born with a fixed number of neurons in the human brain. And so this was leverage in college. You know, when you're in college, every beer you drink, you're going to lose some neurons, so you better not drink too many beers. You know, this is what they're saying.

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But now we know up until the last breath. The hippocampus in the human brain is creating new neurons, but there's a catch. Every time those neurons are created, they must be engaged in a meaningful way within about seven days or they will atrophy and die. So that is true for all the systems in the body. We are a biological system that works on demand.

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If we don't use our systems, then they begin to atrophy. So you begin to replace the human brain with computer chips. Or here's a study, an actual study that was done. Young kids, three, four, five years old, get up in the morning, they eat their bowl of Cheerios or whatever it is. Their parents sit them on the floor with an AI visor and they leave them there for a few hours.

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And here's what's happening. In that AI world, they're seeing stuff they would never see in their backyard with their friends. They're hearing sounds. They're seeing images, colors. And what has happened, this has gone on long enough now that psychologists are able to do the studies. Those young people are, their physical stature is demented. Their brain size is stunted.

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Their cognitive development is stunted. Their visual cortex is enlarged because look at what they're doing. They are simply watching rather than engaging in creating. When you and I were kids, I mean, We'd go out, we'd take a blanket off the bed.

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Yeah, we'd make a tent and make a fort. And all of a sudden we've got a fort and we're using our imagination. They're not doing, they're just watching it all done for them. And so the psychology magazines are actually showing that. And it can all be reversed through epigenetics so that they're not lost. But it's showing that it's not harmless. There is an impact, there is an effect.

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And it's another example. When our biology is replaced with technology, the gift of our humanness begins to atrophy in many different ways in one generation. Next generation comes along through epigenetics. Now it's passed down and the body says, oh, We don't do those functions anymore.

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We used to, but it's a vestige of our past because now we've got a chemical to create the immunity in our bodies, for example. And that's something that's actually proposed right now. Right now, policies are being written. Laws are being enacted. to implement many of these technologies in our bodies. And the term, there's a general term for this, Lewis, it's called transhumanism.

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Trans simply means beyond, and human is our biology, so it's beyond our biology. And I did an interview recently and someone asked, I said, well, isn't this a part of our natural evolution? It's not. Not a part of our natural biological evolution. It is a form of a technological evolution that's not good for us.

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It's not good for us humans because we lose the very essence of what it is that we cherish in our humanity. We lose our ability to love, forgive, sympathy, empathy, compassion. we lose the ability to discern rather than judge. We're taught to judge, but the healing comes from our ability to discern. Wow. We lose all of those things when we begin to give our humanness away.

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So we've just covered a whole lot of ground. I'm going to come back. There's a concerted effort right now in these next few years to diminish the power of our humanness. One of the ways that's being accomplished is by us either being encouraged or mandated. Some of the policies will be mandates coming from the UN through our United States Congress.

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They're going the legal route to accept technology into our bodies to replace our humanness. When we do that, we relinquish that precious, ancient, and sacred gift that we were given when the first of our kind stepped onto this planet 200,000 years ago. You know, we've only been here 10,000 generations. 200,000 years is not that long.

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You can start with the easy questions first.

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And we were given these abilities given to no other form of life. And now we're being taught and indoctrinated to believe that we are flawed, powerless victims of a world that we have no control over and that we need something outside of us.

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So the flip side of this now, in the new science, and this is exciting, is showing us, wow, that we are literally a highly advanced, technologically sophisticated, soft technology. Neurons. One of the reasons that science is beginning to think of us, maybe some of your guests have talked about this, is

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is that we've been conditioned to think of our biology is this soft, gooey, sticky, wet stuff, you know, inside the cells. And that is one way of thinking of us. But now the scientists are looking at us from a perspective of information technology. These are IT perspectives. And so the discoveries, they're not showing up in biology books.

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They're showing up in engineering journals like IEEE, you know, in these engineering. Who's reading those? I mean, my community is not reading. But let me just give you an example. There was the Journal of Advanced Computing Technology, which I don't read and most of my colleagues don't as well, unless we're researching a book or something.

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came out with an article and it showed that human DNA is literally a fractal antenna is the term that they use. So what's that mean? We think of antenna as being tuned to something very specific, like a specific TV station or radio station or CB station or whatever. Fractal antenna are receiving multiple signals from a broad spectrum of bandwidth simultaneously.

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There's an emerging philosophy in the scientific community right now, I think, that will help to answer that question. This is completely unscripted. I don't know where we're going. I'm going to follow your lead on this. So I'm going to begin by sharing that philosophy. And it begins with a statement that simply says that consciousness informs itself through its creations.

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We're pulling in information from the world around us all the time across this broad spectrum, and we're transducing it into meaningful signals in our bodies. That's a very different way of thinking of the human body. So I'll just run through this really quick. What the science is showing, 50 trillion cells in the body. Every cell is a miniature, a micro circuit.

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It's a gated circuit is what engineers call it. It's got input, output. All the functions within our cells, they function as transistors, as resistors, as capacitors that are massaging. That information, every cell has a voltage of about 0.07 volts.

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Say, well, that's not very much, but you do the math, 50 trillion times 0.07 is over 3 trillion volts, 3.5 trillion volts of electrical potential, which is- In our bodies. In our bodies. Now, we don't actualize it all the time, but what if you could harness that? for your own healing or to optimize, optimize cognition, optimize whatever it is we're going to do in our lives.

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But it doesn't stop there because we're receiving photons of information. We're transmitting photons of information. We already said the DNA in our bodies, our DNA stores information. And let me just use the terminology and see if you've heard this before. The DNA in our bodies stores every successful genetic transaction in our species in a way that's transparent, it is immutable, and it's secure.

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And if that sounds familiar, it should, because that is the basis for what is the new financial system of the world, the decentralized financial system we call blockchain technology. Blockchain technology mimics the way information is stored in the DNA of our body. Really? So once again, I'm saying all of this that we build around this is mirroring what we already do in our bodies.

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They compared a human brain... to a microprocessor, the Salk Institute in La Jolla is where this actually, I'm doing this from memory, Salk Institute in La Jolla. And the way they did it, for our techie engineers out there, is they equated the synapse in the human brain between neurons to the transistors on the chip. And interestingly, the numbers are very similar.

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On a modern microprocessor, it's about the same number of synapses we have in the brain. Then they did the studies, and what they found is the human brain is 100-fold faster than the processors. Here's the beauty of where this goes. All of those computer chips, man, they're fast. They're accurate, hands down. But are they scalable? They can only scale.

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as far as the limit of the physics of the stuff they're made of allow. So if it's a silicon chip, the atoms are in predetermined geometric patterns that make silicon, and information can only move so fast across those. So fast, yes. Efficient, yes. Scalable, not so much. Now, human neurons, every time they push a human neuron, to the edge of the limit that has been accepted in the textbooks.

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We do what humans do. The neurons morph and they adapt and open up an entire new vista of processing capability. And we do this again and again and again. What is the upper limit of a human neuron? We don't know. We may be infinite when it comes to scalability. That's soft technology. And it goes on from there. I'm just giving a couple of examples. I know I'm covering all the ground.

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And we break that down, what it means is the things that we build in the world around us, everything from the books that we write and the art, the sculpture, the dance, certainly the music,

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Can I share one more? Go ahead, go ahead. This is really exciting and then we'll pull this together. There was an experiment that was done in 2022 and some of our viewers may be old enough To remember the computer game that I'm going to reference, 1972, a game called Pong, P-O-N-G, was released. Today it looks primitive. It is essentially a tennis game, a badminton game.

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Two little blocks going up in one ball, and one ball, and it's going like this. People were fascinated when that game first came out. So here's what happened. Scientists took human neurons... independent from the body and put them into a petri dish. So they're not even attached to a human.

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And they have a special chip where the little dendrites, the little tentacles, if you will, from the neuron will fit into a port on the chip. So now you've got a chip and a neuron interface. And they were able to hook that up to a computer that was loaded with Pong. Well, guess what? These neurons started playing the game Pong. But listen, they knew how to play.

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And the longer they played, the better they got. They learned. So here's the question now that the scientists have to ask. How does a neuron... not attached to a human in a Petri dish know how to play Pong? Are the instructions stored in the neuron? The answer is no. And this is going to go back to what we said earlier.

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The neuron is the antenna that tunes to the place in the field where Pong lives in our Some people call it an Akashic record or they call it the plant field or zero point field or the divine matrix or the matrix, whatever you want to call it. There is a field that underlies all existence and that field is information. So in the experiment, the neuron was the antenna connected to Pong.

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are entertainment in some respects, and beyond that, that they are reminding us, they're telling us something about ourselves that we are asking ourselves to either remember or perhaps learn for the very first time. And if this is true, Lewis, it applies to technology as well. I'm a scientist by degree, a systems thinker.

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In our lives, the neurons in our brain and the neurons in our hearts and in every organ of the body, they've now been found, connect us to that field. When we replace our natural biology with synthetics and we no longer are using those neurons and we're no longer using DNA, we're still human. And we can still function, but we've lost our divinity.

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We've lost our ability to love, forgive, to initiate our own healing, innovation, imagination, creativity. This is the essence of our humanness. This is why we're the prize, because when we lose those, we are vulnerable. to power, control, and other people's ideas of what our world and our lives should look like. The transhuman movement is the movement to do just that.

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Can you see where that would be now based on everything? That's where I wanted to cover those experiments.

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And this is the first time I've heard someone reading those things back.

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And that is the essence of our humanness. We have conscious stories and unconscious stories. I had an unconscious story that I am not safe in the world without my protector. I was not consciously aware of that. So that inner conversation is vital. It's more than important. It's vital. Our story defines the way that we are in the world.

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So we live our lives based upon our story, the way we're conditioned to think about ourselves. Everybody has a story that begins before we're even born in our mother's womb. The epigenetic factors are determining our subconscious story. the way that our friends and our family and our peers and our school and our church teach us to deal with the world. That's all part of our story.

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I've worked during the Cold War years in some of the most advanced technologies, for example, in the SDI, Star Wars Defense Initiative, advanced lasers, communication, radar systems, and I've seen and deeply respect this technology. I'm going to say

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And based upon our story, our story defines every relationship we'll ever have. This is an adult audience, I'm assuming. So every relationship, every friend that we'll ever have, every human that we invite into our bed is a reflection of the story that we have told ourselves about ourselves and believe. This is the key. What story do you believe?

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Many people tell themselves stories, but they don't even believe their own stories. Those are called affirmations. You can say the affirmations a million times a day if you don't believe that you are worthy of a perfect mate, if you don't believe that you're worthy of the healing.

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What you just described is the workshop of life. That's where the workshop begins. But the workshop has to begin with the story, Lewis. We are not what we've been told. We're more than we've been led to believe. We need the reasons to think differently about ourselves. I can walk into an audience and I can say, you're powerful beings. And I've seen it a million times with a million speakers.

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People have a notebook just like you have right there. Yep. And they write just like you're writing right now. And they'll say, I am powerful. I'm a power. And then they'll look up and say, yeah, what's next? Because it meant nothing. But if they don't believe it. Exactly.

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Well, one of the reasons I honor the left brain, everyone has a left brain to some degree. Everyone learns differently. Not everyone learns the same. Not everyone wants to hear everything that I just shared with you.

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if someone is looking for the reason to think differently they're saying greg give me a reason to think differently about myself i'm sharing with you in the book a lot more detail but i'm sharing the science that that shows us that we are a soft technology we're not a frail uh biological flawed biological form of life subject to flaws we have very very few flaws our body performs

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with what it's given to work with. Our body is a reflection. Candice Peart, the Harvard MD said this. The molecules of emotion. Molecules of motion. She actually said your body is your subconscious mind because what you believe about yourself is creating the chemicals in the body that your body is. Isn't that fascinating? Yeah, it really is.

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At that time, and even to this moment, I have yet to see any technology built in the world around us that does not mimic what we already do in the cells and the systems of our body. And in many cases, we meet and exceed the capacities. We do it better. Really? So the answer to your question about what is it that we're about to give away, our humanness is under attack right now.

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So I, as a child, had to reconcile what I felt, what I would call my soul compass, because it wasn't supported in my community. People didn't talk like this when I was a kid. And it sent me on a journey to understand myself. And that led me on a journey to understand our past. And that led me on a journey to understand... I had two... I don't know how we're doing on time.

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Can I share a couple of stories? Go ahead. Yeah. Two very powerful stories. An experience when I was 14. So now I've left home. I'm living with my band. And I go see my first rock concert. It was a group that was called Jefferson Airplane. And the lead singer was this stunningly beautiful woman named Grace Slick is her name. She's still alive today.

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And I sat on the front row and yelled at Grace Slick and told her how much I loved her. And she completely blew me off. But I watched in that room, there were about 30,000 people.

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And I watched them moved by what a couple of people did on that stage. But here's, here's the thing. The concert was over and we left. And everyone needed to have something to recreate that experience. At that time, there were eight-track tapes or albums. They needed something to recreate that. Now, a couple of weeks later, I have another experience.

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And I'm not saying I'm aligned with the message. There was an evangelist named Billy Graham, a powerful, powerful speaker. He spoke to 70,000 people in the Kansas City Athletics Stadium, outdoor stadium. And here's the difference, when those people left, they felt differently about themselves.

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They didn't need anything to recreate the feeling because his words had helped them to sense and to feel and to see themselves differently than they did before they went in to hear that. What I recognized as a kid, I don't know exactly how I'm going to do this, but I think there is a way our words, The words are so powerful.

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I mean, when you think about what we do with words, we breathe the breath from outside of us. We invite it into our bodies. We begin to flutter our diaphragm. We push the air back.

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over the direction it just came down from, and as it's moving back, we begin to flutter our vocal cords in just the right way, listen to this, to reflect the thoughts and the feelings that we're having as acoustic waveforms so they can leave our bodies and fall on the skin and onto the eardrums of another living being to convey our deepest, most intimate experiences.

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Do you know how powerful that is? And nobody tells us that. Nobody tells us that.

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Well, it begins with a thought. Nobody can see our thought. But we're converting the thought into acoustic waveforms through the air that we're forcing back. And the ability... to modulate our vocal cords in just the right way to create those acoustic patterns. And then they leave our bodies. My words have left my body. Now they're falling on you. They're touching your skin.

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They're touching your eardrums. And you, your nervous system, is now interpreting my thoughts. And we are so good at it, we don't give it a second thought. That's how powerful we are.

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We are the product of multiple generations. We're To be human, the idea of our humans has been denigrated. It has been degraded. We are teaching our young people in school right now, our young people are being taught that carbon-based life in general and humans specifically are flawed. Among our flaws, emotion, because emotion clouds sometimes our logic and our ability to think clearly.

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It's the meaning that we give to the words. That's the key.

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It's the significance that we give to the word that we either tell ourselves about ourselves and believe. have to believe them, or that other people instill within us before the age of seven.

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That's the beauty of our humanness and our divinity. We have the ability to choose. We must accept the responsibility with that choice that we choose to not to be defined by our past. That was a choice. It was a conscious choice I made when I was young. I looked at my father's life. I looked at the destruction, the emotional destruction. I looked at what it was doing to me.

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And I said, now my younger brother, and I love my brother. And if he's watching this, I haven't talked to you for a while, brother, but I love you. He carries that hurt. and allows that to define his life. And so all of the misfortune, and this isn't nothing new, you've heard this, all the misfortunes, the bad relationships, the bad jobs, whatever it is, it's somebody else's fault.

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You know, you're looking around you for the reasons And that is a fundamental shift in understanding our relationship to the world. We must choose, consciously or subconsciously, I'm not saying it's always a conscious choice, but on some level we choose to be defined by the circumstances of the past, or we choose to free ourselves. Human divinity is what allows us to do that.

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If we don't have our human divinity, the ability to innovate, to imagine, to create, to love, These are all facets of human divinity. You begin to see why it's so important for us to preserve, to claim and preserve our humanness, our bodies. I think perhaps the greatest task that we're given as humans is to honor, preserve, protect the gift of our bodies.

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Because once we relinquish our humanness to the technology, we'll never get it back. Once we give our humanness, once we give our biology away, we'll never get it back. And we become something very different. This is what Ray Kurzweil is talking about, and it's what the others are talking about. But it comes... down to something even deeper than that.

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And if you're going to do a soundbite, maybe this is going to be the soundbite because not everybody's into the good and evil. Not everybody's into the technology and all of that. It comes down to love. The question that we all ask ourselves, do we love ourselves enough to accept the gift of our humanness

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And the responsibility that comes with being a human and our divinity, expressing our divinity fearlessly in this world. That's the question we're all asking ourselves. And without a verbal answer, the choices that we make, the politics that we choose, the medical systems that we choose, the food that we eat, the wars that we create, or the peace that we create are the answer to that question.

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We're all answering it right now, but how can you answer it if you don't know the context? So I'm going to go back. Good and evil. A battle between good and evil. This is a very different battle. You don't win this battle. It's not the kind of battle that you win by fighting. We don't want to win. We want to triumph.

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and the way you triumph and this is the beauty you don't have to know any of this the way we triumph is by living the best version of ourselves we live our humanness we live our divinity we love fearlessly we innovate we create we forgive without expectation when we do that forgiveness we do all of those things and by doing that that is the very opposite the evil wants

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to defeat us by separating us from those expressions. When we live them, we have triumphed. Wow. And I think that's the beauty of where we are right now.

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Our human experiences of empathy, sympathy, compassion, the ability to self-regulate our own biology, these are seen as flaws. And for young people, if they are flaws, it means we need a savior. And the savior is being touted as technology, AI, computer chips, chemicals in the blood, RFID chips under the skin, sensors in the body, nanobots.

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That is a really good question. And what we're doing now is the answer to that question. It has to begin with knowing that you have a choice, first of all.

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So many people believe that there is no choice because they have been conditioned and indoctrinated to believe that they are powerless victims of a world around them that they have no control over and that they are a flawed form of life that needs something outside of their bodies. So knowledge is power. You have to be willing to embrace the deep truth of your humanness and your divinity.

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It's very difficult to break through those patterns if you are not willing to accept the truth of your humanness and the power and responsibility that comes with being a human. on this earth. And we're given very few reasons to do that, Lewis, in our lives and our school children are given very few reasons to do that. And that's why they've lost respect in many cases for their bodies.

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They don't have a sense of a future because the indoctrination is telling them they live in a world where it's hopeless. That's what it's telling them. Now, with the exception of the drugs, we were more than poor. When my father finally left, he left when I was 10, fortunately. Tough for my mom, raising two boys. She didn't have a job. This was early 1960s. Northern Missouri, or where were you?

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Yeah, northern Missouri. Just north of Kansas City, Missouri. Northwest Missouri. Northwest Missouri, yeah. I lied about my age. I went to work in a copper mill so I could be a union worker after school. I worked union hours, 4 p.m. to 4 a.m. There were 12-hour shifts. We lived in government-subsidized housing for most of my teen years until I left, and then I was forced to go back.

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At the age of 14, I left The court intervened and said, you have to go back until you're 18 or you become a ward of the state. So I went back. We lived in government subsidized housing. And it's one of those things, you can hear the words from a million different people. You have to find a reason to become more than the circumstances of your past. You have to find that reason for yourself.

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And that's why the information, it's more than just data. When I can show someone the potential within their bodies to look at it differently, when I can show someone what their divinity is really all about, and that it's so valuable that nations will create wars to divert and distract us, what is it within us that could possibly warrant that extreme of hurt and suffering?

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So the idea, this 2030, this was reflecting a statement by Ray Kurzweil. Ray Kurzweil, I think some of our viewers know, he's an author, he's a visionary, he's a futurist. He is heading up AI research at Google right now. And he made two statements that I think are relevant to this conversation.

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It's because we are so valuable and so precious. I can tell you another story. I have no idea how we're doing on time.

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And then the story will fit into this as well.

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To recognize that that potential is there and that we are rare and precious and beautiful and ancient and sacred form of life. No one's telling our young people that at all. You know... We see this in religious traditions where the human body is often called the temple. You see that.

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And in biblical traditions, other traditions, from that perspective, if someone is biblically inclined, I think it's 1 Corinthians 13, I think, that says, no, ye not, that ye are the temple of God. What does that mean? Well, When we go to Egypt, we go to Greece, we go to many of these ancient civilizations, when they build temples, they build them in layers.

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And the innermost sanctum is where the most precious secrets and the wisdom are always kept. For example, the Ark of the Covenant in Solomon's temple wasn't like by the doorway when you walk in. You had to go through layers.

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Chambers. And only certain people were allowed in there. Well, from that perspective, if the human body is a temple. Those ancient traditions, that innermost sanctum is called the Holy of Holies is the term that's given, the Holy of Holies. It's where the Ark was kept and Solomon's temple. We as a temple, as a human body temple, have not one Holy of Holies. We have 50 trillion.

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holy of holies, because the nucleus of every cell in our body holds the information that reminds us that we are not what we've been told. We're so much more than we've been led to believe. And when you begin to think of yourself from that way, now I agree, if you're If you're down and out, broke, strung out, unemployed, I mean, these are big concepts.

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Who's got time for that when you're just... Yeah, it's hard to overcome that. But it's not impossible because we're human. We are human and we have a choice. And this is what sets us apart from all of the forms of life. Now, there are techniques that we teach. And some of your other guests have talked about these as well. For example... You can't change what's happened to us.

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I can't change the hurt from my past. And what I've experienced is nothing compared to what many of my brothers and sisters on this planet have experienced. The trauma creates the chemicals in the body. There are techniques to release that trauma. And once it's released chemically, then what remains is the emotional remedies.

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It doesn't make a lot of sense to go through the emotional remedies and within the context of chemical trauma in the body. So I would recommend.

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I would recommend exploring techniques to release the trauma. And what I have found most effective. We do this in our four-day programs. I'm not here to talk about that, but I want people to know these are available. There are forms of breathwork. The breathwork is a lubricant. It's an emotional lubricant that frees those neuropeptides to move through the body.

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First, he said, by the year 2030, which is only five years from now, I mean, we're just about the year 2025. He said by the year 2030, when we talk to someone on the street, we will no longer be talking to a pure human. We will be talking to someone who has either embraced or been mandated to have some kind of technology accepted into their bodies. So by 2030, we will be speaking to human hybrids.

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There are emotional freedom techniques, EFT, for some specific forms of trauma, tapping. The tapping, yeah. Techniques people have used. therapy can work to a limited degree. And I want to back that statement up. In 1991, scientists discovered 40,000 specialized cells in the human heart that I say discovered.

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They'd always been there, but no one thought to look because they're essentially neurons. Why would you look for a neuron that you know is in the brain? Why would you even look into the heart? Well, they found a neural network in the heart. Wow. So what that means is when we have trauma, we experience it in two places.

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And the neural network in the heart thinks, feels, remembers, and emotes independently of the cranial brain. So that means the trauma that we experience throughout our lives, including me in coming from an abusive alcoholic family, that trauma is instilled if it's unresolved in both places. So I can go to a therapist and talk about my trauma from the polarity of my left and right brain.

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That's the ego. And the brain, because it's a polarity organ, it does what it always does. The brain will always see your trauma Impolarity, good, bad, right, wrong, success, failure, worthy, not worthy. That's what the brain does. The beauty of being able to access trauma from the heart is the heart is not in polarity. And there are techniques called, for example, heart-brain coherence.

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Some of your guests have talked, I know my brother, Dr. Joe, He and I used to teach together. I was using my programs. He began using his programs. It was very successful. He's taken a light years beyond where we were working together in the past because it works.

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And when you can begin to experience the trauma without the judgment, the polarity of the rightness or the wrongness or the goodness, how could they do that to me? Or I was betrayed or how could she have done that? Or how could he? That's what keeps us locked in the trauma.

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Yeah. Well, that's the ego. That's the emotion. But to heal, we don't have to understand it. What we're doing is releasing it. And the beauty of the breath work, the beauty of the coherence work is that you don't have to say any words. You don't have to describe it to someone. You don't have to relive it.

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Because every time you relive that trauma, what you're doing is you're strengthening the neural network that's hanging on to that trauma. And really what you want to do is to free the neuropeptides that were created from that trauma. Chemically and physically. Yep. Yep.

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So to be able to release, physically release that trauma is where I personally, in my journey, what I'm describing to you is my journey. And from that, knowing that we are chemically free of the trauma, there is an emotional component that says, ah, you feel different. You feel a release. Oh, man.

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What I invite people to do in our four-day programs is take a picture of their own eyes before we go through this process. And the process involves what we're doing now. It's information to give them reasons to think differently. It's techniques and it's breathing and other things that go with that. And then take pictures afterwards. Now, I'm not saying it's easy. I mean, these people I respect.

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I just love and respect them. They dive deep. It's tears, snot all over their face.

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Yeah, you've been through that. Of course. And through all that, their eyes clear, perfectly clear, bright and shiny. And they are so happy. And they say, my God, I didn't know. They're so accustomed to the burden of the trauma. They forgot what they are like in the absence of that burden.

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You will never change what happened to you in the past. What changes is the significance, the meaning that you give to those experiences.

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You know, part of my heritage, I'm a Hebrew blood, but our faith was denied in the 50s because people were afraid. It was right after the war. We lost family in the Holocaust. So it was denied. And part of my blood is Cherokee. Cherokee was also a Holocaust. They were victims of the Trail of Tears experience that was still, epigenetically, those things are passed down.

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uh he says we will have achieved what he just wrote his most recent book about something called the singularity the singularity is essentially the internet of all things where we have become a a digital representation of ourselves in this internet of all things along with the world around us all of our natural resources every form of wildlife all the food we eat the energy we consume everything

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And I can't change what happened. But I have worked, and I will. It's not an event. The healing is never an event. It's a process. It's a journey. It's a journey. We're already healed or we wouldn't be here. And we are seeking deeper levels of healing. And I think that's important for people to realize. Our bodies are wired to heal. We are constantly healing. Healing is our nature.

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Every organ in the human body is now documented with the ability to stop the damage that's been incurred, to reverse that damage, and actually to heal and regrow telomeres, for example, on the DNA. Even the organs that we were told could not, pancreatic tissue, heart tissue, brain tissue, we were told couldn't. And all of them have been documented with the ability to do this, Lewis.

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And here's the catch. There is a catch. They have to be given the environment to initiate that healing, to create that healing. And the environment is the emotional environment that has the greatest impact. We have to feel that we are worthy of that healing. Divinity is the reason for that worth. And we understand our divine nature. And it has, again, nothing to do with religion.

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People will link religion to it if they want to. That's fine. That's fine. But go back to the definition. The ability to transcend perceived limitations. That is a powerful, powerful facet.

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That's what we're talking about. You have to know that there is a possibility, another possibility. So just faith? No, it's not faith. A lot of people discount knowledge. They say, yeah, just tell me what to do. Tell me what to do. The knowledge is a code. Once you see a potential about your body, you can't unsee it. Now you have a choice. You can deny it. We have free will. We can deny divinity.

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Everyone has divinity, but not everyone will express their divinity. We have the ability to deny our own divinity, and many people will. They will say they're not worthy, that they don't have the power. We can have our divinity taken from us by those who have power over us,

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conditioned out of us and that happens through an abusive family relationship technology can steal our divinity because think about this divinity doesn't live in the body we have to be able to communicate with the part of us that doesn't live in here science is struggling with this How did the neuron know how to play pong? There's a part of that game that's not in the neuron.

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There's a part of us that's not in the body. That's what it's telling us. So we have to be able, this is why now more than ever, I mean, it's always important to be healthy. These next five years, we've got to be healthier than we've ever, ever been in our lives because we need every iota, every ounce of our biology, our humanness, so that we can fully express our divinity, so that we can love.

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We're going to love this world. We're going to love this world into a new world. We're going to love this world into healing. And there is a component about who you surround yourself with. You want to transcend without judging, but if you want to transcend a violent or hurtful past, then you seek community. Community can be one person. It doesn't have to be an ashram, you know.

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For some people it is. But you seek those that will support your vision consciously or unconsciously. And we do that in life. This is what relationships are all about. Our prime directive is to be whole. We all seek wholeness.

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And we will seek the wholeness in relationships with other people who hold the energetic patterns that we've lost, given away, or had taken away from us by those who have power over us. Say that one more time for people.

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will be in this massive database run by artificial intelligence that is already being built. It's already underway. So I wrote a book called Pure Human, and I wrote this book to advocate for our humanness, to celebrate and maybe maybe awaken a deeper sense of pride for what it means to be human and a deeper appreciation for our humanness. So it's a long answer to a short question.

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We will seek our wholeness by being in relationships Let me say it now explain it by being in relationships with those Who have the parts of us that we've lost given away or had taken from us by those who have power over us? So so now we're talking about energetic energetic imprints so when we find a partner a And we know this. We'll actually say the words.

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We'll say, man, I feel really good when I'm with you. Or I feel whole. Or you're my better half. Or I feel complete. Those are all. And we're being very honest because when we're with them, think of it like a puzzle. My father, for example, attempted through criticism to denigrate and demean my capabilities. And he did to some degree, but I didn't believe a lot of it.

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But I, as a musician, I would seek out a community. And when I was with other people that believed in themselves and they had the guts to walk up on that stage and own that stage and pull out that guitar and blast those vocals where I felt very self-conscious. You felt insecure around it. Insecure because I had been taught that I wasn't worthy of that.

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And by being around other people, it doesn't have to be an intimate sexual relationship. It can be. And that's where we usually learn the fastest because that intimacy goes right to the core of the essence of our being.

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Our vulnerability. It's the fast track to a deep healing, if we're honest with ourselves, or it's the fast track.

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Or it's the fast track to a deep wound. And I have multiple divorces to attest to that. because we all learn and grow differently in life. So we're seeking that wholeness.

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And I think if someone wants that healing to remain in a community with others who have poor self-esteem, poor vision of themselves, who hate their bodies, wake up in the morning, and actually some people say to themselves, they hate their bodies. And all they wanna do is get out of here. They wanna get off this planet. Those are not conducive to the healing.

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And there's actually an energetic component, Lois. There is a consciousness, an energetic component. The Institute of Heart Math, I've worked with since the year of their inception, 1994, 95. I'm not their employee, but they have empowered me as an independent author because I understand their technology to use their technology. And

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One of the things they found was that around every physical heart, there's an energetic blueprint. There's a field that extends between three and five feet. Wow. And I asked them once, I said, man, if the heart's so powerful, why does it stop at five feet? And they said, oh, well, that's the limitation of the equipment.

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They said on the quantum level, in all probability, our hearts are influencing the world around us on an infinite level on the quantum level. But here's what it means. You and I are within three to five feet. We're sharing a heart field right now. And I love you, brother. I'm loving you right now. And I feel your love and support.

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So when you're healing, to surround yourself with people who have a healthier, I mean, I don't think anyone's 100%, but to have a healthier sense of of self and a deep respect and a reverence for life and for their bodies, that field is going to influence your body. And it's one of those things I can talk about it, but you have to experience it. And here's, here's what it'll feel like.

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You'll just start feeling different. And all of a sudden somebody is going to offer you a hit of acid or a line of Coke and something in you is going to say, Hmm, you know what? It's not for me. That shift is the awakening of that divinity and a deep respect and appreciation for the human body. Because we all know we're here.

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If you're here now, we're here for a really special time to advocate for our divinity in the presence of a field or evil, if you want to think of it that way, that wants to steal it from us. We're here to claim it. And that little shift, or maybe somebody will offer you a big greasy burger and big greasy fries with a heap of ketchup that you would have done anything for a week earlier.

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And you look at that and your body feels different. And that, and you have to listen to that because that's your body saying I'm worth more. I'm worth more than what this food is going to do to my body. Because the meal is not about filling the empty space. The meal is about nourishing the gift of my biology, the gift of my temple. Whatever words, everybody uses different words.

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I want to kind of lay that out as we start this conversation.

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Those little signs begin to happen when you When you go through these steps and, and then it's a choice, you follow that path and you say, wow, what else am I eating? Maybe that.

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Well, we're because we're conditioned to, to feed ourselves in a way that steals from us the very thing that we cherish the most. And that's life itself. Wow. That's our, that's our conditioning. You know, I take groups in the Peru every year. I used to before COVID. We finished our 48th trip in 46 years. Wow.

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And in the capital of Cusco, or the city of Cusco, in the Andes Mountains, it's always been an indigenous community, really pure food. They grow their own beautiful potatoes, corn. They built a KFC and they built a McDonald's side by side. And all the kids started going there after school every day. And now obesity and diabetes are rampant. And there are people saying, what happened?

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We don't understand what happened. Look at your environment. They're nourishing themselves with something that is not supporting the gift of life.

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Yeah, yeah. No, no, you didn't. I did see it 10 years ago. This has happened within just the last 10 years. It happened.

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No, you don't see obese. Because they're eating, they grow their own food. And they don't have a lot of chemicals and preservatives and things like that. And, you know, they're high elevation. They get a lot of exercise. Yeah, a lot of hiking and stuff.

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Blocking my abundance, I feel nothing is blocking my abundance. I feel, I just turned 70. I feel better than I've ever been. I feel like I've been training my entire life for what is in our future. I used to be conditioned to think that I made mistakes and I believe that I've made no mistakes. I believe I've made choices based on what I knew and understood at the time.

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Some of them had consequences and outcomes that were unexpected. But it's a very different idea than saying that it was a mistake. Because when, I'll just, a quick story. When my dad walked out the door, I was 10 years old. My mom knew we were in for a tough ride. She didn't know what it meant. She knew we were in for a tough time. She gave me a book.

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She had the insight to give me a book and it was called The Prophet by Khalil Gibran. And some of our viewers I know are very familiar with that book. Each chapter is only maybe a page and a half, two pages and a deep insight. And there was one chapter that spoke to me that now is on every email that I send out. And that's, I say it to myself every day.

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And that simply said, work is love made visible. And what that said to me, Lewis, was whatever crosses my path that I'm going to do, consider it carefully. And if I say yes, I don't always say yes. If I say yes, I'm in a million percent. And that path will lead me to an expression of my love forever. Not only for the world, but for myself in the world. So practical application.

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I'm with those people. You know, just off camera, just now, we just had a conversation. I'm I don't talk about it a lot because it's not often relevant, and I'm not ashamed to share. I'm the product of a very dysfunctional, abusive, alcoholic family. I was born in the 1950s, and the idea of abuse and addiction and counseling and therapy were very different in the 50s and 60s than they are today.

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I used to work nights loading boxcars with 50-pound bags of Purina Cat Chow. And my coworkers hated it, man. It was hot in Missouri summer, humid. It was tough. Work is love made visible. So I said, you know what? If I do this just right, here I am getting paid eight hours a night. If I lift with my legs, I've got a quad workout.

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I said, if I'm using more upper body, now I've got an upper body workout, I can come down here, have a job, get paid, and leave physically better than I was when I came in. That's love made visible. It's a very different, it's all in the mind. It's a very different mindset. And I think it's important, whatever we do in life, if we say yes, we're all in.

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Greg is two Gs. Mom did that intentionally. Two Gs means it's not a Gregory.

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Truths, I think, would be, number one, that we are divine beings. Not we've been told so much more than we've been led to believe about ourselves. And we've come to awaken that divinity within ourselves and within one another. Through that divinity, we love fearlessly and discover a level of love that allows the nations of this world

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To come together and the leaders to look at one another in the eyes and ask the question, how much good can we do in the world before we leave? If my work in some way could influence that event, I would be so deeply honored and grateful.

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And number three, to look back on all the good that has come from whatever it is that I've offered, whatever sense I've offered for people to think differently about themselves, because I love this world and the people. of this world and just to really bask in the fruition of all the good and all the beauty that we all know is possible in our hearts to bring that into the reality of the world.

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And to come back on Lewis's podcast 200 years from now because we're going to have new mics and new cameras. Yeah, it's going to be amazing.

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It was not accepted then as much, right? Well, it was as there was a stigma. Something's wrong with you if you need that. There was a stigma attached to it. And to complicate it even more, I was born in a rural community in northern Missouri, which is for our international viewers, it's right in the middle of this big, beautiful country we live in.

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What you don't know is it's been a tough couple of weeks. It's really good for me to hear that. So thank you.

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The definition of greatness is when we say yes to what the universe has brought to our doorstep, and then we do our very best, no holds barred, and that's all we can do. We have to be great. That's all we can do.

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So our greatness is allowing our divinity, our light, our love, our skills, our talents to show through, to shine in this world and doing it in a way that brings joy to us and hopefully to the people around us.

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So I was raised in an environment where the abuser will typically belittle and criticize those around them to elevate their sense of worth. And fortunately, I was born with a very strong soul compass. I didn't believe what I was being told. I have a younger brother, four years younger, same household, same experience, you know, listening to the same things. And he's a good man.

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And I love my younger brother. And we're like night and day. If you were in this room, we don't look alike. We certainly don't think alike. Wow. And unfortunately, he believed everything that he heard. And and has chosen to be defined in his life by that criticism.

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And I can't say consciously when I made the decision, but I remember thinking I will not be defined by my father's idea of who I am because I was blessed, as again, with a strong soul compass. I'm not saying I did it all right. For me, in the 50s and 60s, music was my outlet. And I began playing guitar at eight, play it to this day. I'm a musician when I'm not doing what I'm doing right now.

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And I left our home at the age of 14, which now I think is probably illegal, but I moved in with my rock band. And during that time, the drugs were abundant. And I watched beautiful, talented men and women. We had a female vocalist. I saw their lives destroyed in a matter of months through the chemicals that they, put into their bodies.

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And, you know, Louis, I didn't know then obviously what I know now, but I always had a sense that there's something about us that is so rare and so beautiful. that we need to honor and respect this gift of the body. And I had a sense I would need this body for something later in life. And my friends didn't think that way. So it was hard to have these conversations. Sure.

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But I was always looking to see what it is within me. How can I be the best version of myself? How can I serve this world? And I leave this world. I don't know how long I'm here. We never do. I feel good, and I think I'm here for a while.

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But the day that I leave, when I look back, I want to know that I left no stone unturned, that I gave to and loved this world to the best of my ability, knowing what I know. And I do. I love this world and the people of this world. We're going through a tough time right now, man. It's a tough time. It's not just America. It's everybody in the world.

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And what I want our viewers to know is it's not going to last forever. And it's not random. It's not spontaneous. There's a structure. We are moving rapidly toward the close of a cycle.

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There are cycles within cycles. There are cosmological cycles that shift our planet. There are geologic cycles that I studied as a degree geologist. There are financial cycles, there are economic cycles, there are conflict and war cycles. And many people don't know that the conflict and war are actually driven by natural rhythms.

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The magnetic fields of the sun influence the earth, they influence our heart rate variability, they influence our sleep patterns, they influence blood pressure, all those things. So they're all converging now. And they appear to be converging around the year 2030. Really? Why is that? Well, this is okay. This is... I don't know how deep you want to go. Go as deep as you want.

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So to have that conversation... We need to tread on territory that many of my peers are not comfortable talking about. And I'm happy to do that. And I want to do it in a really good and a responsible way.

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The year 2030, for example, the United Nations has identified 2030 as the year they want to remake society and remake the world through what are called the 17 Sustainable Development Goals, the World Economic Forum. is identified 2030 as the target date for their vision, their vision of what they want the world to look like. What is that vision for the World Economic Forum versus the UN?

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It's the same vision. This is a very concerning relationship. So now we're covering a lot of ground. Let's just back up. WEF, World Economic Forum, independent, non-elected individuals. They started meeting in 1971. Davos, Switzerland, we all hear about the meetings every year that, you know, for a week you get little tidbits.

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Yeah, you get little, well, they're CEOs of corporations. They're politicians. They're kings. They're queens. They're leaders of nations in many cases. And they've always meant to have their conversations about what they feel, what these elites feel that our lives and our world should look like. And they have every right to do that. No problem. Until 2019.

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Now, the United Nations has had a series of programs beginning. They started, there was UN SDG, Sustainable Development Goals, SDG for the year 2000. Their 15-year plan that expired in 15, and now they're looking at another 15 years, which expires in 2030. They put together 17 sustainable development goals that on the outside, Lewis, are beautiful goals.

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And when you look at these, if you go to the computer and go to the website, they are a list of 17 things. Who wouldn't want these in the world?

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For example... Not all 17, but yeah. Yeah, food security. Who doesn't want food security? Global health for families, global health for children. Who doesn't want those things? Now you read the fine print of how they plan to achieve those goals, and it is horrendous. It is a remaking of social structure of family and society everywhere.

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Yeah, we'd make a tent and make a fort. And all of a sudden, we've got a fort, and we're using our imagination. They're not doing it. They're just watching it all done for them. And so the psychology magazines are actually showing that. And it can all be reversed through epigenetics so that they're not lost. But it's showing that it's not harmless. There is an impact. There is an effect.

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And it's another example. When our biology is replaced with technology, the gift of our humanness begins to atrophy in many different ways in one generation. Next generation comes along through epigenetics now. It's passed down, and the body says, oh. We don't do those functions anymore.

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We used to, but it's a vestige of our past because now we've got a chemical to create the immunity in our bodies, for example, and that's something that's actually proposed right now. Right now, policies are being written, laws are being enacted. to implement many of these technologies in our bodies. And the term, there's a general term for this, Lewis, it's called transhumanism.

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Trans simply means beyond, and human is our biology, so it's beyond our biology. And I did an interview recently, and someone asked, they said, well, isn't this a part of our natural evolution? It's not. Not a part of our natural biological evolution. It is a form... of a technological evolution that's not good for us.

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It's not good for us humans because we lose the very essence of what it is that we cherish in our humanity. We lose our ability to love, forgive, sympathy, empathy, compassion. We lose the ability to discern rather than judge. We're taught to judge, but the healing comes from our ability to discern. Wow. We lose all of those things when we begin to give our humanness away.

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So we've just covered a whole lot of ground. I'm going to come back. There's a concerted effort right now in these next few years to diminish the power of our humanness. One of the ways that's being accomplished is by

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us either being encouraged or mandated, some of the policies will be mandates coming from the UN through our United States Congress, they're going the legal route, to accept technology into our bodies to replace our humanness. When we do that, we relinquish that precious ancient and sacred gift that we were given when the first of our kind stepped onto this planet 200,000 years ago.

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You know, we've only been here 10,000 generations. 200,000 years, not that long. And we were given these abilities, given to no other form of life. And now we're being taught and indoctrinated to believe that we are flawed, powerless victims of a world that we have no control over and that we need something outside of us.

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To answer the question, we have to understand what's really happening. Every emotion that we've ever had in our lives from the moment, even before we emerged into the world through the birth canal, while we're still in the womb,

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So the flip side of this now, in the new science, and this is exciting, is showing us, wow, that we are literally a highly advanced, technologically sophisticated, soft technology. Neurons, one of the reasons that science is beginning to think of us, maybe some of your guests have talked about this,

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is that we've been conditioned to think of our biology as this soft, gooey, sticky, wet stuff, you know, inside the cells. And that is one way of thinking of us. But now, scientists are looking at us from a perspective of information technology. These are IT perspectives. And so the discoveries, they're not showing up in biology books.

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They're showing up in engineering journals like IEEE, you know, in these engineering. Who's reading those? I mean, my community is not reading. But let me just give you an example. There was the Journal of Advanced Computing Technology, which I don't read and most of my colleagues don't as well, unless we're researching a book or something.

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came out with an article, and it showed that human DNA is literally a fractal antenna, is the term that they use. So what's that mean? We think of antenna as being tuned to something very specific, like a specific TV station or radio station or CB station or whatever. Fractal antenna... are receiving multiple signals from a broad spectrum of bandwidth simultaneously.

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We're pulling in information from the world around us all the time across this broad spectrum, and we're transducing it into meaningful signals in our bodies. That's a very different way of thinking of the human body. So I'll just run through this really quick, what the science is showing, 50 trillion cells in the body, every cell. is a miniature, a microcircuit.

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It's a gated circuit, is what engineers call it. It's got input, output. All the functions within our cells, they function as transistors, as resistors, as capacitors that are massaging that information. Every cell has a voltage of about 0.07 volts. You say, well, that's not very much, but you do the math, 50 trillion.

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Every emotion that we're having has a chemical equivalent that is called... Candice Pert was the first Harvard-trained medical physician that linked emotion and chemicals in the body in a scientific way. Wow. I had the honor of knowing her before she passed in 2013. She wrote a book called Molecules of Emotion. I'm sure a lot of your viewers are familiar with that.

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times 0.07 is over 3 billion, no, over 3 trillion volts, 3.5 trillion volts of electrical potential, which is- In our body. In our bodies. Now, we don't actualize it all the time, but what if you could harness that for your own healing or to optimize? optimize cognition, optimize whatever it is we're going to do in our lives.

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But it doesn't stop there because we're receiving photons of information. We're transmitting photons of information. We already said the DNA in our bodies, our DNA stores information. And let me just use the terminology and see if you've heard this before. The DNA in our bodies stores every successful genetic transaction in our species in a way that's transparent, it is immutable, and it's secure.

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And if that sounds familiar, it should, because that is the basis for what is the new financial system of the world, the decentralized financial system we call blockchain technology. Blockchain technology mimics the way information is stored in the DNA of our body. Really? So once again, I'm saying all of this that we build around this is mirroring what we already do in our bodies.

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They compared a human brain to a microprocessor. The Salk Institute in La Jolla is where this actually, I'm doing this from memory. Salk Institute in La Jolla. And the way they did it, for our techie engineers out there, is they equated the synapse in the human brain between neurons to the transistors on the chip. And interestingly, the numbers are very similar.

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On a modern microprocessor, it's about the same number of synapses we have in the brain. Then they did the studies, and what they found is the human brain is 100-fold faster than the processors. Wow. Here's the beauty of where this goes. All of those computer chips, man, they're fast, they're accurate, hands down, but are they scalable? They can only scale

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as far as the limit of the physics of the stuff they're made of allow. So if it's a silicon chip, the atoms are in predetermined geometric patterns that make silicon, and information can only move so fast across those. So fast, yes. Efficient, yes. Scalable, not so much. Now, human neurons.

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Every time they push a human neuron to the edge of the limit that has been accepted in the textbooks, we do what humans do. The neurons morph and they adapt and open up an entire new vista of processing capability. And we do this again and again and again. What is the upper limit of a human neuron? We don't know. We may be infinite when it comes to scalability. That's soft technology.

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And she identified these chemicals are called neuropeptides. Neuropeptides typically will be created by the emotion and they metabolize through the body. No big deal. Unless we're having an emotion that we can't resolve. Then the neuropeptides, our bodies are so smart, the neuropeptides will...

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stay in the body, the body will actually store the neuropeptides, and this is where it gets really interesting, in the organs, tissues, and glands that we associate with our trauma. And everyone has trauma. And everyone's trauma, your trauma, you might have a trauma, and I'd look at it and say, what's the big deal? Because my filters interpret it differently.

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Or I would have a trauma, and you would look at it and say, come on, Greg, suck it up and get over it. Because your filters are different. But we all have trauma, and it's personalized. And those neuropeptides will stay with us 10 minutes or 70 years until we have the tools to resolve the trauma. Sometimes they'll give you a little nudge to let you know they're still there.

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It might be a little irritation. It might be a rash on the body or inflammation or swelling. And we will take a pill or put on a cream to make the symptom go away, but that neuropeptide is still there. And then they'll say, well, maybe you need a little bit more of a nudge. And then we start developing symptoms of things that we call illness and disease.

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But this is so fascinating to me because the science is showing us rarely do our bodies break. Rarely do we have illness and disease. in the way we think we have it. What we are experiencing is our body in the presence of the conditions, the epigenetic conditions that we've given it to work with.

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It can be nutrition, it can be environment, and the most powerful environment is the emotional environment. Over 90% is the emotional environment. So rather than saying our bodies are broken, which ruins the trust that we have in our bodies, it's useful to say, what am I giving my body to work with? What is the environment? And sometimes the emotional environment is a subconscious.

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In my case, it was subconscious. I had a subconscious fear of not being safe because I wasn't when I was a child.

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Didn't feel safe. Well, it makes sense because the first seven years average, first seven years of a human life, we are in an altered state of consciousness. It's actually called a hypnagogic state is the term that psychologists use where we have very few of any filters. We are absorbing behavior patterns from our caregivers. This is nature's way. of preparing us for life.

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Nature believes that we're going to be in the same environment that our parents are. So we learn from our parents how to deal with conflict and how to treat people that you like and how to treat people you don't like. We mimic them. We do. Consciously and subconsciously, those are the programs up until the age of seven. The Jesuits knew this. Maybe you've had other speakers talk about this.

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They would say, give us your sons, because it was a male organization, Give us your sons until the age of seven and they'll be ours forever. Wow. So what they meant, give them to us for this first seven years. They can go home to you, but they won't want to because they will be indoctrinated into the patterns of the Jesuits and their home life will no longer make sense.

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That's an example of how powerful those first seven years of life are. It's the programming, right? It's the programming. So the neuropeptides can stay in the body as long as they need to. And there are techniques, breathwork techniques, heart-brain coherence. I know my brother Joe Dispenza, he and I have taught together, and we use these techniques.

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There are all kinds of body EFT and body memory therapy, and that's a whole conversation. But there are a lot of ways to resolve that. And it's fascinating to me because when we do resolve them through a breathwork session, for example, Those neuropeptides are made of chemicals in the body and elements, minerals. And you'll actually begin to taste metallic taste in your mouth or your urine.

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Your urine will smell funny because it's not the typical urine. These are chemicals. Or your tears or your perspiration will taste different and it'll smell different. You'll sweat and you'll smell different when you're going through this because now those neuropeptides are metabolizing through the body, through body secretions. Process. Body secretion.

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So it's tears, perspiration, saliva, sexual fluids, feces, all of those things is how we release. Wow. Isn't that fascinating? This goes back to the power. Human divinity is the part of us that's timeless, it's ageless, it's all-knowing. It is the part of us where our healing begins. And what the science is showing is that divinity doesn't live, those patterns don't live in our bodies.

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This is where it gets really, really interesting. It was already interesting, now it's gonna get really, really interesting. They don't live in the cells of our bodies. The cells of our bodies, the neurons, DNA and the cell membranes literally are antennae that tune us to an energetic place in the field that underlies all existence that we now know.

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Science confirmed it in the year 2012 that the CERN superconducting supercollider, they actually announced it on July 4th in America, 4th of July 2012, that there is a field that underlies all existence. 2022, the Nobel Prize in Peace. No, in physics. The Nobel Prize in physics was given to the physicists that confirmed that in this field, everything's connected. Entanglement is what it's called.

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What is this field that we're living in? It's an energetic field. And we are that field. Every...

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human the average human is about 50 trillion cells in the body approximately give or take you've got more cells than i do because you're taller than i am oh wow and every one of those 50 trillion cells has about 100 trillion atoms and every one of those atoms is doing this it's emerging from that field and collapsing into that field every nanosecond of the day like right this nanosecond

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And as it emerges from the field, it is building our bodies to fit the template that we hold in our consciousness of who we are. And this is why healing is possible. This is why spontaneous healing is possible when we change the way we think and the way we feel. we change that blueprint, we change the template, and that information will now fill in a new and healthier blueprint.

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Well, I'm going to answer it in two ways. And this is not separate from this conversation we're having about human divinity. And I'm going to tie back in what we're now exploring. I just want to give context and structure here. We're exploring getting into the nitty gritty of the power of human divinity and why we want it. And what happens if we give it away?

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And this is all very well documented. I mean, the science knows the bits and pieces. Science is reluctant to bring them together because it tells a story that many scientists are reluctant to embrace. What's that? The story is that we are not what we've been told. We're more than we've been led to believe. And that is the essence of why I've written this book.

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I'm gonna answer that question for you right now. What I'm gonna say is this, Lewis, there's something inside of us We humans, that is so powerful. It is so beautiful. It is so ancient. It is so precious that there are organizations in the world today.

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And there always have been societies in the past that will go to any length to shield us from that part of ourselves, because that's where we find our power. When we are in our power, we are less vulnerable to fear. And fear, I think you'll agree, is probably the greatest commodity in a world that is moving toward the ability to create authority and centralize that authority.

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In the world, that is our divinity. This is why we are the prize. We are literally the prize. And I want to make this conversation relevant to our viewers because so many people, they write to us and we see the comments and say, okay, you know, these conversations are cool. What's that have to do with the world? And what's that have to do with my life right now? Yeah, the world out there.

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So here's what it has to do with the world that we're living in. That part of us that is so beautiful, powerful, ancient, precious.

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Is the reason for everything we're seeing happening in the world those powers that be will stop at nothing To distract us and keep us diverted Nations will go to war with nations economic systems will be collapsed pandemics will be unleashed climate will be engineered nations will rise and fall All in an effort to distract us wow because we are are the prize

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The human body is the prize because our humanness is the link to our divinity. This is why I began talking about an ancient battle. There is an ancient battle between good and evil. And evil means different things to different people. But the ultimate evil is to shield a human from their divinity.

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When we are kept from our divine nature, our ability to love fearlessly, to forgive, to heal, to imagine, to innovate, to create, that is a form of evil. And that's a form that is playing out right now in this 2030 window of time.

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Is the window of time when it is proposed that our humanness, our biology be replaced with technology, with AI, with computer chips, chemicals in the blood that mimic the systems that we do with synthetics, computer chips in the brain linking us to the computers now and... It's a very different way of thinking. Now, I'm a systems thinker.

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So I look at the big picture so that I understand where the nanosecond of my life fits into that big picture. And then I let it go. We don't have to know any of this. But I want people to know that what we're seeing, it's not a crazy world. It's insane.

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it's not crazy there is a method there's a system there's a process and it won't last forever it's this little window of time where you're seeing the powers that be jockey for position and our humanness is a problem wow because we are such powerful beings and nobody's telling our kids that our kids are being told that they're flawed forms of life that they need something outside of themselves

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to be the best version of themselves and to compete in business and compete in the world. So our kids are willing to give themselves away to virtual reality, to computer chips. I mean, I had some young people in one of my courses earlier. It was in the summer. And we were talking about Neuralink, the chip that the FDA just approved from Elon Musk. It's his company.

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And it allows a human without any wires at all to communicate directly with the hard drive on their computer. And so here's these young kids in the room and they're saying, this is cool. They're saying, Mr. Braden. And I said, no, please, Greg. And they said, okay, Greg. I said, I'm only 70. I'm not a Mr. Braden yet.

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They said, are you telling me that all I have to do is put a computer chip in my brain and I can play Grand Theft Auto with no wires?

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I can think, no controls. Sweet. Or there's some other words they use, but sweet was a lot of it. Because they don't realize the biological imperative. There is an adage in biology that says use it or lose it. Perfect example. When I was back in the 50s and 60s, I was taught, and you probably were when you were young as well, that we were born with a fixed number of neurons in the human brain.

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And so this was leverage in college. You know, when you're in college, every beer you drink, you're going to lose some neurons. So you better not drink too many beers. You know, this is what they're saying. But now we know up until the last breath. The hippocampus in the human brain is creating new neurons, but there's a catch.

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You cannot determine unless it's happened in the past and you recognize this is exactly what happened in the past. You really can't determine. It's terrifying. It's scary. It is. It is. Yeah. Fortunately, we live in a city where we had, it's a small, Santa Fe, New Mexico. It's not a big 80,000 people. It's not a big community, but we had, and I had good medical care.

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Every time those neurons are created, they must be engaged in a meaningful way within about seven days or they will atrophy and die. So that is true for all the systems in the body. We are a biological system that works on demand. If we don't use our systems, then they begin to atrophy. So you begin to replace the human brain with computer chips. Or here's a study, an actual study that was done.

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Young kids, three, four, five years old, get up in the morning. They eat their bowl of Cheerios or whatever it is. Their parents sit them on the floor with an AI visor, and they leave them there for a few hours. And here's what's happening. In that AI world, they're seeing stuff they would never see in their backyard with their friends. Wow. Yeah. They're hearing sounds.

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They're seeing images, colors. And what has happened, this has gone on long enough now that psychologists are able to do the studies. Those young people are, their physical stature is demented. Their brain size is stunted. Their cognitive development is stunted. Their visual cortex is enlarged because look at what they're doing. They are simply watching rather than engaging in creating.

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When you and I were kids, I mean, We'd go out, we'd take a blanket off the bed.