Grant Ellis
Appearances
American History Tellers
The Irish Famine Relief Mission | Ship of Hope | 1
Your weekly dose of romance and drama has arrived. Season 29 of The Bachelor is here, and Grant Ellis, certified hottie and former day trader, is trading his day job on Wall Street for a second chance at everlasting love. New episodes drop every Monday at 8, 7 central, bringing you fresh twists in Grant's journey to find his soulmate.
American History Tellers
The Irish Famine Relief Mission | Ship of Hope | 1
This self-proclaimed mama's boy is all grown up and ready to invest his heart. Will his playful charm win over the house full of hopefuls? Or will the competition prove too intense? From heartfelt moments to adrenaline-pumping dates, each week brings new surprises in the mansion. Will Grant find his perfect match or end up with a broken heart?
American History Tellers
The Irish Famine Relief Mission | Ship of Hope | 1
Tune in every Monday at 8, 7 central on ABC and stream on Hulu for new episodes of The Bachelor.
American History Tellers
The Wright Brothers | Coming Down to Earth | 3
Your weekly dose of romance and drama has arrived. Season 29 of The Bachelor is here, and Grant Ellis, certified hottie and former day trader, is trading his day job on Wall Street for a second chance at everlasting love. New episodes drop every Monday at 8, 7 central, bringing you fresh twists in Grant's journey to find his soulmate.
American History Tellers
The Wright Brothers | Coming Down to Earth | 3
This self-proclaimed mama's boy is all grown up and ready to invest his heart. Will his playful charm win over the house full of hopefuls? Or will the competition prove too intense? From heartfelt moments to adrenaline-pumping dates, each week brings new surprises in the mansion. Will Grant find his perfect match or end up with a broken heart?
American History Tellers
The Wright Brothers | Coming Down to Earth | 3
Tune in every Monday at 8, 7 central on ABC and stream on Hulu for new episodes of The Bachelor.
The Viall Files
E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
21.
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End doors.
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It was.
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100%.
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You weren't there.
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Grant, welcome back to the show, man. What's going on? How you doing? I'm great. How are you doing? How's your heart, man? Oh, man, I'm going through it. How's your heart? My heart's good. My heart's good. It's been a while since I've been on a podcast, and I'm really happy to be around you guys and see you guys, and I'm ready to get going.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
Everyone was raving about you.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
and then i saw how good a season was and i was like okay maybe i'll be there for this one no it's it's a pleasure meeting you and we had we had a blast last time we can i just say something you're a really good bachelor man oh man listen there's there's a lot of mixed opinions but you know something i can tell i i am the foremost authority on who is a good bachelor and who is not a good bachelor
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Your opinion definitely matters, man.
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Thank you. I appreciate it. You know, it's definitely difficult. I try to go in there and just lead with love, try to listen and try to have a connection with each of the ladies, regardless of how far along we were, you know, in our romance and that aspect. But I tried just how to have a connection. I really cared about them and each of their stories because you learn a lot about them, you know?
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
And you know girls and how it came off you know i really i really try to uh help everybody grow and myself i grew a lot on that on the show as well so yeah
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Yeah, I think it's a testament to just how the final two, they were amazing. And I had connections with both of them. And they were so different. And it just came down to what I was looking for in my life. Who could I relate to the most? And, you know, there's also an extra added pressure on being, you know, the second black bachelor ever.
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You know, you think that you have to make a decision based off of, you know, what people would want or this or that. But you have to go with your heart. And I think I did that. I just need a little extra time to sit and really think things through because I wanted this decision to be final.
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Listen, you know, everything is... You don't get much time. You don't get much time. Everything is, you know, they... It's a lot of drama. It didn't take as long as what they say, but I understand they have to play it up. And yeah, it was a really hard decision, but this is somebody who's going to be my wife. So I really tried to approach it like that. And yeah, we got to see how it ends.
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So did you really not know the morning you woke up? Listen, I knew. I knew based off of what I needed. But like I said, it was a mixture of things. Not wanting to hurt somebody. You have to stand your ground and really decide what your heart wants. It was... Between my head and my heart at one point, you know, I had feelings for, for both.
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I was in love with both women and yeah, it just was, it was, one was a hard, it was hard for me to, to, to hurt somebody on which is going to be the most important day. Should be the happiest day of your life. And then, like I said, what you think people want you to do, you have to take, take a step back and be like, you know what, this is for me and I'm going to go with who makes me the happiest.
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So.
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Very desperate.
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I'm not going to say it was as big as a factor as, you know, I really just felt bad for Dina and how she, you know, because you want your family to support you on a big day like that, you know, to show up and rally behind you, especially when you're going to get looking at it back, you're going to get opinions from the internet and your family has to have your back.
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But I think the whole situation with Zoe is just to clarify, you know, a lot of people maybe question why Zoe made it that far or
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things of that nature I think listen with Zoe she grew up in the south and she's a strong black woman and the way that she comes across off camera you know maybe sometimes she's a little defensive and sometimes things like that come into play but what I will say is every group date every situation she showed up and she gave her all And I see where that comes from.
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I've dealt with that in the past where you get stigmas placed on you or things like that, and you have to power through those. So I really wanted to help her grow. And I think that I have empathy. I'm an empath. So I saw that in Zoe and I saw a place for me to help build her up. I saw a place for growth where I could say, okay, this person and I could relate and I could kind of teach her.
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or show her not how to be, but like how to grow out of a situation when she spent majority of her childhood going through probably, you know, uh, bullying and, you know, you could tell that she, she was, she needed some confidence instilled in her. So I, I was, I tried to be that person.
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Yeah. They're both bring unique sides out of me. And yeah. I think that with Jules, with Juliana, there was something that we could relate to. I called her Jules. I called her Jules. I called Latia TT. That's true.
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I called her TT. I'm just corny like that sometimes. He likes a nickname.
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No, but I think that she brought a certain side out of me that we really related over the addiction and some of the trauma we went through and how we were going to build each other up and how we could understand each other. And Latia was really nurturing. She is an amazing woman and she has so much to offer. And I saw that.
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So both of them had different aspects that I kind of, that's why I had such a hard time seeing going down to this final moment. So.
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he didn't get the bat signal yeah i think that listen i'm not gonna say listen i went in there i knew that you know with carolina she the attitude that she had on the dates you know not not a bad attitude but her demeanor was kind of like you know she she was questioning and doubting and you know there were obviously there were things that happened behind that the scenes that didn't that weren't necessarily showed on camera but going in there you know i i was leaning more towards letting go of the relationship but when you know she started to cry and she started to do things i just i
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She did her thing. She did her thing. She did her thing. And I had to defuse the situation, you know, maybe, maybe it would have been a best idea to, to end the relationship there. I just, yeah, looking back at it, maybe I was trying to be too, too nice, you know, and maybe worried about my appearance or how it would look and, you know, when somebody's crying, sending them home.
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But at the end of the day, we definitely had a connection. I tried to mend that as much as possible, you know, and I try, cause I really did have a connection with her. But all the things that got in the way and just her questioning the process and doubting me, it started to really get to me.
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And right there in that moment, I was trying to, you know, I went in there with the mindset, maybe this is going to work out. But then I had to remember all the good things that we had and tried to fight for the relationship.
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Yeah. The final two, the final two women, uh, I, I had a connection with them first night, night one, or even the second episode, basically, you know, I think that a lot of people, uh, you know, even, and I'm going to bring this, my, my, even my connection with Alex, she got the first impression. Yeah. I just, our love languages were very different, you know, we're very different.
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And not to say that I was more serious cause I know she was serious, but she was not, she wasn't used to the romance and things like that as much, you know, and I, we were trying to work, but ultimately it was just, I just saw the difference there. And like I said, she was great. You know, we could have moved forward. I just thought it was best that it didn't happen that way.
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But as far as my final two, I thought that, yeah, we were right on par. I thought the connection was there from night one.
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Yeah. For sure.
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Do you want to elaborate on that? Yeah, so it definitely comes up in the future, but there's a difference between saying, I'm thinking about giving reassurance to somebody and then saying, listen, when I'm with this person, I'm thinking about you. Like, that's not how I meant it. That's kind of like, that gives off major, major player vibes. And I wasn't trying to give that off.
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So I think, yeah, there's just a miscommunication there. But there's a big difference between what I said and then what was said that I said that I said didn't say.
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at the end of the day, it falls on me. You know, I could have done a better job of communicating that, but at the same time, I think that Carolina started to doubt the process from that moment on. So, again, I see both sides of it and I understand why Carolina started to act the way that she did because if you're told that somebody, if you're told that, you're going to question. So,
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Ultimately, I think it falls on me. And maybe if I would have worded it different, or like I said, going in there, trying to reassure everybody and just because I cared, maybe that wasn't the best thing. Maybe, you know, but I, in that moment, I genuinely, I had a connection with Rose. You know, we, our first thing, we did the blind date, we did the blind, we were kissing.
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And well, I mean, I was kissing everybody, but we definitely had a connection.
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Okay.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
Yeah, fantasy suites is really tricky, but I think I handle myself very well. You know, regardless, you know, like I said, I was, there's a lot of kisses, but I do feel like fantasy suites, I really reserve myself. And because when you get physical intimacy involved. Changes things. It changes things.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
And you, your connection with somebody is probably, there could be some red flags there and then you guys have sex and then everything's wonderful. So I try to handle myself really well and I try to be responsible. And yeah, my expectation was I wasn't going in there saying I'm not going to, but it had to be, I had to know that this person was my person in order for me to engage.
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And at that point I didn't know who was my person.
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Well, I didn't say that directly. You didn't say you didn't do other things. I didn't say I didn't do other things, but yeah, I handled myself well, you know? And then also too, like I said, there's always the pressure and the stereotype of, you know, me being the second black bachelor, you know, people were going to think I'm a player or this or that, or I'm just trying to get my rocks off.
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And I wasn't, you know, I went in there with, with real intentions. And, you know, prior to that, I had been celibate for a year. So I got, I got out of a seven year relationship and I was hurting. So like, you know, sex is great, but I wanted to make sure it was with somebody who, who was my person. And then we could fuck all the time, you know, but you've had sex. Yeah.
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Well, I mean, I think, well, what day are we at? Wednesday. Wednesday. So, shit, that's a good question. I would say this Monday. The following Monday has passed, so it will be this coming Monday.
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How did it go? I was interrogated. Like I said, I was definitely, some of the ladies had questions for me. which I could understand, you know, I could understand it's not easy being a bachelor. It's not, it's not an easy feat. It's not an easy job. And yeah, I had to answer to some things, but like I said, I just took accountability.
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And the worst thing you could do in my situation is get emotional and, you know, emotional to the point where you start to clap back and do something back. So, Whatever feelings you had, I just took accountability. And I'm not perfect. I may not be the best, but I did my best. And I think that the ladies perceived that well. And yeah, I did my best.
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It was like a therapy session for me, honestly. A situation that coming up, you're going to see me reconnecting with my dad and me just knowing I had a lot of stuff inside that I was just holding in. You know, as a man, I try to always be strong and like try to keep that face, that brave face. But sometimes you got to let it out. You know, you got to let it out.
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You got to be in tune with your emotions. And I feel like I tried that, you know, not that I tried that, but this journey really awakened that in me, you know, my emotional side. And to say, you know, it's okay to speak on how you feel as long as you're not crying everywhere. You know, there's a point, there's a place in time to, as a man, to let yourself be vulnerable.
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You know, I think it's a strength.
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No, I think the process works if you go in there and you're ready. Well, not to say that, but there's also external factors. But for me, because I was at a point where I was super ready, I did my best to make it work. And like I said, obviously, there's external factors. It's both people that have to make it work. But from my end, I was ready.
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No, I did. I did realize it was shorter. And, you know, there's some there's some things with the network. Obviously, I don't really know, you know, maybe scheduling or things like that. But listen, I was emotionally I was getting drained. So, I mean, I'm glad it was only six six or seven weeks because I would have started to spiral if it wasn't so.
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No, it didn't affect my ability. Like I'm a lover boy. So I was falling like, you know, it doesn't take me a lot. See, I was falling like week two. So I was like, it didn't really take a lot, but it does. It does when you start to fall and then you form another connection here. That's where things you wish you had a little more time to kind of like really figure things out. Okay.
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Yeah, no, not that I was scared. I just, you know, at first you walk in there with nerves, you might be a little nervous, but then when you meet the families and they're so welcoming and cool, it's like, oh, like this isn't, this isn't hard. I'm just be myself, you know?
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So going in there, I was a little nervous, you know, but I said, if I'm just going to be, I'm just going to be myself and whoever accepts me for me is, is, is that's, that's a sign.
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Nah, I knew he was joking. He was such a cool guy. I knew he was messing around. I'd like to play a little game. Let's do it. Okay.
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I think it will be very family orientated. I think it will be fun. I think it will be a lot of us building each other up and healing each other from our past experiences that we went through. And I think it will be a relationship founded in friendship. Where would y'all be living?
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Probably on the East Coast. Probably on the East Coast. I grew up on the East Coast. So yeah, typically maybe in the city somewhere.
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Okay. Yeah. We might, we might hit, hit a bar or two, but you know, I think wine, some great food, uh, some good vibes, some good friends. And then maybe we might go out and dance. Okay.
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uh how quickly would a relationship with you and jules result in children oh man i think yeah i i don't know about immediately i think that my time horizon is before i'm 35 i'm 31 okay so i think that it would be something that we take on you know you can't really say you can't really you could plan it out but i think it would just be something that happens instead of us being like we want it by this time where would your first uh trip together be as a couple
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probably probably italy he's italian oh yeah that's a good place okay tt all right all right yeah with latia or tt i think it would be um you know like another relationship rooted in family i think that it would be um a lot of similar uh morals that we have I think it will be fun, loving, nurturing. I think it'll be very serious.
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And I think that, you know, the family aspect, it would be something that we would be getting into sooner rather than later.
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Are you talking about the kids part? Yeah, it would be like probably in a year.
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Yeah, anywhere before 35. So if it's like, you know, if that's 32, 33, then it's that. But if it's 35, it's just whenever it happens. Where are y'all living? Probably somewhere either on the East Coast or somewhere in Utah. Aren't you in Texas now? I'm in Texas.
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I've been there for a while. I have property there. So it's like I can leave that. And for me, I've been alone for a while. So I probably would would go to where my fiance is happy. You know what I'm saying? And I would probably build around that.
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Damn, that's a good question. I would say for Letia, I think it would definitely be a rom-com like The Notebook. I know that's cliche, but we had talked about that. It's a good movie. And I think for Juliana, it would probably be The Godfather or The Goodfellas. What is it?
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She's Italian. It's The Godfather.
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who cooked who's cooking in each of these relationships i could i you know i love to cook my desk that's the way that my dad kind of like showed love to me he would like make me food and it was weird because he'd like watch me eat it i don't know it's a weird thing but i probably would cook but we we both cook you know there's room for room for growth both of us room for growth room for growth in that who's making the bed
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I'm not the best bed maker.
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I'm with you, bro. My mind is like all over the place. So, you know, I don't make my bed like that. What's the point? What's the point? You're going to get it later. You're going to get back in there.
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No, but seriously, there's something good about getting into a bed. It's better sleeping in a bed that's made than one that's not. Sure. That's true. Yeah, I'm like, yuck.
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Yeah.
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What gave that away?
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She's amazing. I don't know.
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Like Bambi, like she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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We have to, we got to tune in and see.
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It's always a leap of faith. You're saying like in the timeframe that we had, that being a question was a really big- That's another decision you have to figure out.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
Tune in. Tune in, you know. Team Tune In.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
You picked fucking Zoe after all. That was crazy.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
Yeah, it was Nick. I saw that. You know, like I said, I tried. I've never done that before. I tried something new. We were in the mall and the producer just brought out a piano. I'm like, well, fuck it. See, that's right. I was like, I might as well just go, fuck it. But, you know, I don't regret it. You know, I tried something, put myself out there. She's the goofy one.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
If anything, Alex was the one that I thought she would receive that. You brought out a llama.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
But, yo, like, it's not something I, you know, I think it was something that, you know, I tried it, you know.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
You win some, you lose some. Overall, just, you happy you said yes to this experience? Yeah, I'm very happy. I'm very happy. I learned a lot about myself and, you know, the outcome was I'm happy with.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
Listen, there's mixed reviews, but I did it because that's how I was feeling.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
No, I just did it. I went rogue. Did you get a talking to? You know something? The original idea was, you know, because love and music are synonymous. So there was going to be like a story for each episode with each woman. And night one was a party, you know, but then. They said no. Yeah, immediately I got so much backlash. I was like, pull that shit in. Don't do it. I'm like, oh shit.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
I mean, that's me. It's good, man. That's my personality. I'm creative. I like to have fun. And love doesn't have to look one way. It's not linear. We got to make that a bop this summer.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
Yeah, I think in love, there's a whole, obviously The Bachelor has a very, they have an audience that's been with them for so long. I think that on the other side, there's people that see it a little differently. So in my creative mind, I'm like, okay, well, how could you kind of be the host of a show where you matchmake? So I came up with this concept. It's called spin the block.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
It would be a woman or a lady who would be the prize. And then a man who maybe needs an upgrade, he will come to her. She has a choice to say like, okay, would you, would you want to date this guy? No, he has a chance to spend the day with me being me. And then I would, you know, teach him how to dress, teach him how to talk, you know, maybe I'll teach him how to, is this a TV show?
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
No, like a, like a YouTube series, but it would have to be obviously approved. But it would, and then after that, after you ever seen hitch, it would be me playing the role of hitch. And then after that, he comes back and then, if they like each other after he quote unquote spun the block, you know, you should ask for, uh, forgiveness and not permission. Yeah. Yeah.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
But obviously I gotta, I gotta see what, but that's just a concept, you know? So something like that.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
You try it.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
Figure it out. And I think that has a cultural relevance to it. Like I said, that's a saying that people say in culture. I'm going to spin the block. It's something that It's culturally relevant and it may be open to a different audience that sees love a little differently than what's presented on The Bachelor.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
How nervous are you to talk to your runner up? I'm not nervous. I think that obviously I'm going to have to answer to some things, you know, which is it's that's normal. But I lay with my heart. And I laid it out there and you can't go wrong as long as you're honest and as long as you put it all out there. So I'm not nervous. Do you anticipate hurt feelings? I do. I do. I mean, I would be hurt.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
Okay.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
It means a lot coming from you, Nick. I appreciate it, man, for real.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
Thank you, guys. Thank you.