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The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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And it's like, I've lived a life in this skin color. Do you think that I need this measly $5,000? Like, please. And like, it's a lot of money. Like sometimes it's like, wow, like that's really a lot of money to like, just, just turn away. But at the end of the day, like what, what is the goal? Larger picture, you know, like, and aside from like the money to like morale, like,

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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Yeah. I want to sleep at night. Thank you.

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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um that you've had so far probably i'm sure you'll have many more you know many many more i honestly have loved working with road i think team road is just like oh i love that yeah they have made a lot of great changes and also above that they're just so eager to listen um and aside from like the product in itself and like developing the products and like consulting on a lot of those products it's also like their marketing like

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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we bringing out those South Sudanese models. Like, I'm so sorry. We do not see that in a lot of beauty campaigns where it's like, we're seeing the darkest shade actually being represented and not just like the product, but like the actual campaigns worldwide. Like,

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I think that is just a really huge marker of how much they actually want to be intentional in the inclusive products that they want to drop.

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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Yeah, for real. And I really just like... I've consulted with Tony, with Rode. Me and Tony are always...

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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work you know like you know what i mean we're always cooking in that yes we're always cooking um and to just know that they're willing to hear our insight and like sometimes i'll be like oh this is not good like this is not good and there are other times that i'm just like okay this is amazing but also they go as far as making sure they are black cosmetic chemists like love that number one we get to work because the person that's in that lab looks like us too and that makes like the biggest difference it matters yeah it really does absolutely really does

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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I think product of my own, for sure. Period. I'm, like, in that time of my career where I'm just, like, you know, like, let's just explore some options. I'm also young, so it's, like, I got some time on my hands. I'm, like, really enjoying this, like, time of life that I'm in currently. So I know a beauty brand will come eventually, but... I will be eating up at a dark skin girls. No, that's okay.

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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I was in college, and the girls loved to get ready. That was just like, your friends liked to get ready before you got outside.

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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Honestly, I think I'm really chilling. I'm really chilling. I like to run.

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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I think it might be a little bit in my genetics, but, I'm so sorry, but I just think South Sudan people just love to run. I think also too, I was also in this really pivotal part of my career in this past year where the hate just got so bad and I needed to express that in a way that was actually positive. Yes, exactly.

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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And one thing that anxiety and depression love the most is sitting still and like being in stillness because you're not doing anything. You're just soaking in those feelings. And it really took me being like, girl, get up, get up. And it started off as walks. And then I was like, okay.

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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and i'm just like oh you guys are putting on full faces i feel a bit left out you know like i feel a bit left out and so i was exploring with makeup like definitely like my freshman year into like my sophomore year and i was like yeah none of this is eating how it should i look a little casket ready i look a little orange it's giving ash it's giving

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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these walks are cute you know let's try to run and when i started to run i was like okay i feel so much better like i really do um and it just kind of stuck and i didn't realize i was good at it but i think women are good at everything that they put their mind to so it is what it is yeah i'm always like well she can probably conquer it i'm sure she can i know she can't you know be talking about myself yes like we can do anything um and you have any running goals

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Yeah, something like that.

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I'll do a half, you know, like I can probably do a half, but that 26 might see me in 20 things.

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Yeah, I am. I'm definitely like once I once I reach a certain goal, I'm just like, let's let's continue.

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I did. I feel like I've always had, like, an athletic bone. Love. And I think it was also just, like, an outlet, too.

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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Okay, I was on varsity, guys. Don't say.

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That's the first thing they throw us into.

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That kind of sucks.

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Like I also was like,

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really overly masculinized too like yeah absolutely growing up like just being tall and black and just like not fitting into that like beauty standard whatever they're yeah right yeah it was so insane oh yeah even now even now when i meet fans sometimes i i joke about it on the show a lot sometimes when fans take pictures with me they'll like hold my stomach like we're going to prom hey why would you do don't do that to me

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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ash honey you know like it was just not a look and it was a lot of like trial and error I was like yeah this is like why should I even have to trial and error why doesn't it just work for me you know yeah exactly I shouldn't have to make it work and so I started making videos I think like my first ever viral video was the Fenty matchstick or it might have been like the foundation the soft

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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You know, I have like that, the anime version of my, you know, personality. And then I have like, oh, I can get down on some Vampire Diaries. Hold on. Girl.

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I can get down on some Vampire Diaries.

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No. I'm telling you.

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You're blushing like he's here. I'm sorry, like, Damon. You really ate. But I honestly really like Marcella's, like,

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Right.

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One of the foundations, girl. Rihanna be in that lab. But, you know, I made a video and I was like, yeah, this is this is tea. It was like one of like my first big purchases, too, because I was broke, you know, like I was broke and makeup is expensive. So, yeah, like $50 a foundation. Guys, this cannot be.

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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But it's like... You know, like, Elena really irritated me, but, like, I understand the lore. Me too. I guess I get it, but it's just, like, we could have moved with the program a little faster. You had nine seasons.

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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You know, like, wrap it up. Please.

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Do you remember? I don't know. It's been years. It's been, I think, like three years. I think like a year and a half into my journey. Oh, T. Maybe even a year.

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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Yeah. Every time I post a video, it's like, give it 30 minutes. You better hope it's not you.

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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I feel like volleyball. Like I'll, you know, pick up volleyball every four months. Quarterly. Yeah. It's like a quarterly volleyball session, you know, but that's about it. I like to read. Sometimes.

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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Let's see. What am I reading right now? Have you read the new Hunger Games book? I haven't. No. Okay. Well, I'm on chapter one. And it's kind of eating, you know?

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No complaints. And we will hope that I can finish it in the next month.

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I think I'm a little bit of a nonfiction girl, for sure. Nonfiction, for sure. But I also, like...

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you know i was reading what was i reading like who who was it who was it this was probably like a year and a half ago guys anyways i went to a store and i saw my beautiful miss viola davis on a book yes i had to grab it love her i had to grab it and i was literally reading reading reading and i was like it makes sense why you are the baddest bitch on the planet

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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the america we're in you know but i literally got it and i was like yeah this is this is this is tea this is tea let me make a video and i just knew that like the feeling that i was feeling and experiencing like the other girls had to feel it too yeah the magic i do not want to be 50 content creating you and me both yeah you know me i will be in those books guys i know sometimes when i would do interviews in the beginning especially they'd be like oh like what about the future like do you see yourself doing this i was like

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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i'm just like she is really her you know so i have moments where i'm like i'm in my little davis books and then i have my like self-help books nice but not every day is self-help like it's okay to to crash out sometimes yeah well speaking of women we love we were just talking about cowboy carter yeah and you already went you went to opening night yes how was it it was great It was great.

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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And you know what? Like, I am so glad Beyonce said, you know what? You actually don't have to go to math class today, Blue. You know? Like, I'm so glad. Because the way Blue came out, she said, oh, y'all dragged me to filth last year. And she gave hip. She gave hair flip. I said, don't you guys ever play with Blue?

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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I was like, yeah. That was honestly like... Like, you know, I love Beyonce, but I was really there for blue. Like, you know, blue eight now.

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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Honestly, I have to say Ashake. Ooh, that's a great choice. I have to say Ashake. Like, after I saw his little interview, what was it? I don't know what it was, but you guys are going to find it. He was getting ready for something in London, right? I think it was like a GQ interview or something like that. Yeah. I said, you are too icy and fly. I must meet you in this life. Like, just one time.

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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yeah you whoever do you have anyone else you want to shoot your shot at let's lay it down lay down the foundation for you i feel like i met rihanna and that was like oh that's fun yeah that's you know i will never shut up about that right okay i feel the same way that was that i'm a happy girl that's it a shot okay please please just one time give me five minutes of your time just i'll change your life i got things to say

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I literally am not shutting up. Look at that raw. You need to start off the show with, Hey guys, welcome to. I know.

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you and me both queen you know not sponsored i'm obsessed with that motherfucker because why am i stressed for half of the day okay like it's not making sense i know i wake up and check that thing like it's the stocks i check my aura ring up i'm like what score did i get what's going on um she sends me notifications a bit too much i don't want to stand up right now actually

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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But you know what? I think that's like the best feature. I do love it. It'll tell you when you're in your luteal phase and like follicular phase.

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All I know is I try.

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You know us. It was really, like, Force 30 under 30 was one of them. First of all, 23 first South Sudo babe on that list. That's... For me, I was like, yeah, I did the thing. And then, honestly, just, like, a really successful makeup brand in the future. It might be when I'm 30. It might be when I'm 40. Don't ask too many questions. No, but... Yeah, I think that's really it.

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And also just, like, guys... when I pop off the face of this internet, I don't want to hear nothing. Like, I don't want to hear nothing.

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No.

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we've had enough when the want when the want goes away yeah for sure because i just feel like i want to live a life not being constantly overly perceived at one point in my life like i'm gonna delete the socials and i'm gonna go live in a bungalow you know that that's so yeah i love that about you and that's the beautiful thing i honestly think too that's a big reason why uh the universe rewards people like you other than you just being

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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It's really hard. It is. It is. So I commend you. I will take a nap. Guys, don't worry. And I commend you because they be, but you know what? You be dragging her.

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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you'll be on their ass and i love it because i just don't understand why people think that they can talk to influencers anyhow and not expect us to like however they want am i not human for real is this blood that is pumping through my body not the same blood pumping through yours right exactly like it just it doesn't make any sense and then it's just like i feel like too because i would never go out of my way to leave an insane hate comment like me either

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does that mean i've never thought mean things no but i've never keep it to yourself right bring back secrets hello thoughts and critical thinking please like it is just getting to the point too where it's also just like you have millions of followers like there's only so much that you can like control but one thing about me i will not post for two weeks like i will take a month off right because i don't care

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It was probably like the mid-junior year after that first semester. I was like... oh, these numbers are low key. Oh, like I'm literally in, I'm literally in like my calculus class. And I'm like, girl, these numbers are mapping. And I got like my first partnership, I think that second semester. Cool. And it was, it was, it was a chunk of change. And I was like, oh, no one can ever call me broken.

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Exactly. I'm not here for this. I was not brought on this earth to perform. Girl, if I don't want to be on the internet for three weeks, I will not be on the internet for three weeks. Everyone's always like, oh, I haven't seen you on the FYP page in such a long time. And I'm like, yeah, because I don't... I don't want to be on it. Like, you know what I wanted to do?

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

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I wanted to go on a walk for three weeks and mind my business. And I do that. And I think that's honestly like creators could honestly do a lot more of that is like, you don't have to explain why you want to take a break. Just get off the internet. If you want to get off the internet.

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Honestly, I feel like my number one piece of advice is talk your shit. Like, at the end of the day, like, these are your lived-in experiences, and it's not for anybody else to police. And once you have, like, solidified that your validation is validation that you validify in yourself, you're the one that says, oh, okay, this is true to me. This happened to me.

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I'm feeling this way, and I can feel this way. Mm-hmm. No one can tell you anything. You need to continue to exist unapologetically for yourself. Talk your shit. It's okay to not always bow down to the status quo. For real. Absolutely. Let's shake it up a little bit. What's Zendaya say? Shake it up. Please.

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you know so that's all that happened to girls like exist unapologetically for your black ass self period just move you know it's okay to be an airhead too i think sometimes sometimes it's not every day have a think piece so be an airhead too whenever you want to sprinkle it in there okay

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One day and allow yourself to make mistakes. Like influencers also to like, I think we get held to like an insane standard sometimes. I agree. Yeah. But it's like a lot of these influencers that are doing it, like content creators, like they really are 22. They really are 23. They really are 21. They really are still in high school and college. You're learning.

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You're going to make mistakes and give yourself the grace to do that. And if people are not there to grow with you, you,

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That's where it starts. That's where it should end. Get in that lab.

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Like, just for one day, let's step out of our own shoe and go explore. Okay? And, you know, once we really sit down as a whole and say... I can do better. Things change. Yeah. I can do better and be willing to do better. I think brands are just like really, you know, we live in a capitalist society.

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I get it. You want to make your money. But at the end of the day, all I have to say is don't let me catch you.

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Yes. That's it. And don't send it to me either. I don't want it. Okay. Please.

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I love you too.

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You too, babe.

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Thank you. And you too. And I hope you continue to eat the girls up one thing piece at a time.

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Please. You know, and you know, these men need to mind your business. Girl. I will always say that.

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You know, I was literally just like, what am I going to buy guys? Like it's definitely been a trip. It's definitely been a trip for sure. But blessings, you know, I didn't think that this would turn into a full-time career, honestly, but like social media is like one of those things that just like,

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On socials, Instagram, YouTube, Tik TOK. It's just at Gloria. It's just my name. Period.

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Thank you. Cause you guys, some of you guys just be butchering. It's really, it's so simple, you know, but,

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damn what were you doing girl i used to work a front desk at a hotel i think a lot of people don't know that about me but i was working you were like a front desk girl at just a regular like regular hotel chain hotel it was literally i was there from 7 a.m to 11 p.m and at 11 30 when i got home i would that camera was out and you're crazy yeah i was literally suffering What was your other job?

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You were working at the hotel? Yeah, it was just two front desk hotel jobs.

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Yeah, I was just bouncing between them. Like, girl, I had to get my money up somehow.

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But it's still a difficult task at that. Cause it's a lot of work. It's definitely not as like, like body extraneous as like,

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any other job that i've had yeah it's social media is quite easy compared to most jobs yes yeah literally like in a sense of like let's be honest guys like it's not as terrible as a lot of people make it out to seem it's a different type of stress though yeah exactly that's what i've told people too i've said i feel like it's it's absolutely 100 not the hardest job in the

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It's just a different type of stress. You make a shake, you make a work.

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No, I was kind of weird growing up, you know? Like, I was kind of into, like, you know, I was in those books. I also love Club Penguin. Oh, period. You know, like, I was just, I was a little weird little girl. We are familiar. We are big fans of Club Penguin.

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Thank God you brought it up. Honestly, like I just was I was just not Nintendo. I wasn't doing anything serious. I think like makeup and like just like growing into beauty was definitely something that had to grow into because I also grew up dark skin and just like I was not the beauty standard and people were just mean whenever you don't look white. I'm so sorry. You know, they will tear you up.

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Okay. Really bad. So I just already had like this weird like perception of beauty. And, you know, it took me a long time to really step into like my identity and like know who I was and like learn who I was because I feel like it was something that other people always tried to control or like, oh, you're not beautiful or you're too dark or you're this and you're that. And baby, I'm a kid. Yeah.

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You know, like I'm a kid, like let me live. But it definitely was a learning curve. But I will say like in college is when I really was like, okay, like I kind of like full glam, like let me put it on, you know?

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Did you see, like, the waterline, like, the white waterline?

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you know, there is a lack of representation in like every industry, like not even just beauty. Like I think on a larger scale, we don't see a lot of dark skinned women in anything really. And so it was more so hearing that like, oh, like I didn't even think that this was possible because I haven't seen it, but I'm watching you do it. And that inspires me to,

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shoot for the moon you know like absolutely that was for me just like wow like I actually cannot stop doing this because it's really 12 year olds watching me and like looking up to me and I wish that when I was young I had that type of like figure to look up to and be like you know what I can do anything that I put my brain to yeah anything that my medulla reaches for it reaches you know but it just wasn't a huge reality for me so to know that I was inspiring like larger than the masses but like girls that like look like me that was like

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It does because it's like, you know, we've had it hard, guys. We've had it so hard. And also just like experiencing life just not being the beauty standard is a tough one.

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It's a tough one for sure. And then we live in a very secular society, too. Yeah. Yeah. I'm praying for all of us.

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I feel like a little bit of both. Like I think for South Sudan specifically, like a lot of South Sudanese women are models. Like we see them on the runway. Right. But I know that comes with its own demon, honestly, like the way that they view us and like masculinism, like they just, first of all, they be shaving off our hair. Like they literally are just like, let's shave it, let's shave it.

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Like a lot of South Sudanese models just like, they just have to shave their hair to like walk the runway. And it's just like side eye, you know? And even just like the way they're portrayed in media, like the way that a lot of magazines and just like a lot of publications will constantly like darken. The exposure will be brought down to here to make us look darker. And it's like, you know, okay.

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Like, I guess that's strange, but you know, yeah, it's just like a, it's like a really quick side eye. So it's definitely a demon in its own, but I just have noticed as I've grown in this industry for sure. Like there's a lot that has happened. There's a lot of representation that has happened on my part. And not only is it just like dark skinned women, but also just like,

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Yeah. No, I honestly I love consulting. I think a lot of people don't have a lot of insight on what it actually like means to consult. And like on a larger scale, a lot of these companies are not testing on people with darker complexion. And that's why there is these. large discrepancies in these products and these new launches that they have. Which is insane. Yeah, it's absolutely insane.

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They're not testing it on people that look like us. Beyond that, there are no black people on the teams. From the cosmetic chemists to even just the people that work in the PR that are hiring the girls for the campaigns or just... You know, even like the little beauty campaigns and like the ads and stuff that they're running, like they're not a lot of black people in those rooms. Right.

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So with consulting, I think people are just like, OK, well, I don't they just make the shade to begin with that. And I'm just like, well, they're not so.

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you know how do we change exactly how do we do that tangible change how do we make it work because at the end of the day too like not everyone is chronically online like if a dark-skinned girl walks into sephora and she has never seen my videos before and she doesn't know who i am and she goes to whoever she goes to and there's not a shade for her but she tries to make it work like that's an experience a lived-in experience that so many people live in right and so why not make sure that there is access to shades for people with dark complexions like not everyone's online you know like yeah

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as much as I would love to say like, Oh my gosh, like guys, like just don't shop at the brands and don't do this. Don't do this. Like a bigger picture. Yeah. There are people that are going to be shopping at these brands regardless. And so hello, if we can get rid of the trauma of swatching a shade and it being not the cutest, like let's do it. Like let's make it accessible.

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And that's what consulting is. It's like, you're going to have to continue to step out of comfort to make that tangible change. And I think a lot of people have a hard time with conceptualizing that it's,

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we're in a society where black people and dark-skinned people are just not seen we're not validated we're not even we're not even thought of most of the time right and so it takes a lot to actually just like sit there and be like you know what it's really above me but what can i do internally to make sure that this is getting shifted industry-wide absolutely and you're

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i've i was like i know you're with the shits because you're not afraid of shit like that yeah i was like she just like me for real no for real like y'all could blacklist me it's okay like i also just like recognize too that like i you know baby i grew up broke the ten thousand dollars that y'all want for me you can keep it yeah Like you can keep it. Honestly, I just it is what it is.

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You're going to get blacklisted. You're going to, you know, be confronted with really uncomfortable conversations. Yeah. And you have to navigate through that in a lens that's like, OK, how can I productively make tangible change? Yeah, absolutely. And do it unapologetically.

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If you're not willing to do it unapologetically, despite the backlash or despite what other people think, despite what these beauty brands are going to do to you. then nothing is going to happen. And we're going to continue to be in this cycle of like, okay, there aren't shades. Y'all are still launching this and doing that. No, these beauty brands, y'all can be a little afraid.

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Don't let me get that product.