George Janko

And I just wish that we could present to you some of our students so that they could give you their testimony. I've heard it. Or you get a couple of guys together in truth-oriented discussions. That's what it's all about.

And I just wish that we could present to you some of our students so that they could give you their testimony. I've heard it. Or you get a couple of guys together in truth-oriented discussions. That's what it's all about.

Well, we do. We human beings, of course, are social by nature. So it's our nature to interact, to form communities, to form friendships. There's a dark side as well. We also form animosities and so forth. But friendships are integrated around common activities and common goals.

Well, we do. We human beings, of course, are social by nature. So it's our nature to interact, to form communities, to form friendships. There's a dark side as well. We also form animosities and so forth. But friendships are integrated around common activities and common goals.

And one activity that we can integrate a friendship around is the one that Cornell and I have fundamentally integrated ours around, and that is the pursuit of truth. And we both realize that we've got a better shot at getting nearer to truth, nearer to the fullness of truth. If we cooperate, if we pursue truth together, then we do what we just try to pursue truth individually.

And one activity that we can integrate a friendship around is the one that Cornell and I have fundamentally integrated ours around, and that is the pursuit of truth. And we both realize that we've got a better shot at getting nearer to truth, nearer to the fullness of truth. If we cooperate, if we pursue truth together, then we do what we just try to pursue truth individually.

And we do that by presenting the best arguments that we can think of on the competing side. So if I'm inclined in a certain direction on an issue, it could be a philosophical issue. It could be a public policy issue. It might be the question of abortion. It might be the question of whether we should have affirmative action policies, whatever the question is.

And we do that by presenting the best arguments that we can think of on the competing side. So if I'm inclined in a certain direction on an issue, it could be a philosophical issue. It could be a public policy issue. It might be the question of abortion. It might be the question of whether we should have affirmative action policies, whatever the question is.

If I'm inclined in a certain direction, I lay my considerations on the table for Cornell in the form of reasons for my beliefs. And I invite him to tell me if there's something defective in my reasoning, if I've got something wrong. If so, what have I got wrong? And he'll do that for me, and then I'll be able to reflect on those counterarguments. Same thing on his end.

If I'm inclined in a certain direction, I lay my considerations on the table for Cornell in the form of reasons for my beliefs. And I invite him to tell me if there's something defective in my reasoning, if I've got something wrong. If so, what have I got wrong? And he'll do that for me, and then I'll be able to reflect on those counterarguments. Same thing on his end.

He'll give me his reasons for his position, and then I'll think about those, and I'll tell him why, if I'm not persuaded, I'm not persuaded, what the considerations are that still leave me where I was, that don't move me.

He'll give me his reasons for his position, and then I'll think about those, and I'll tell him why, if I'm not persuaded, I'm not persuaded, what the considerations are that still leave me where I was, that don't move me.

But as I say, in my experience, and I think this is the experience of anybody who's worked together with someone else or a group of people in the pursuit of truth, even if you don't end up reaching agreement, you're deepening your understanding of the issue. You come out of it in a better place, a fuller, richer understanding of the truth than you would otherwise have.

But as I say, in my experience, and I think this is the experience of anybody who's worked together with someone else or a group of people in the pursuit of truth, even if you don't end up reaching agreement, you're deepening your understanding of the issue. You come out of it in a better place, a fuller, richer understanding of the truth than you would otherwise have.

And it doesn't matter in the end whether you have persuaded each other. The deepening of understanding is itself a good thing. Now, ideally, you got to the truth of the thing. But if you're deepening understanding, you're at least getting closer to the truth of the thing.

And it doesn't matter in the end whether you have persuaded each other. The deepening of understanding is itself a good thing. Now, ideally, you got to the truth of the thing. But if you're deepening understanding, you're at least getting closer to the truth of the thing.

Sure. First, I want to echo what you said about Hillsdale College. What a wonderful institution it is. And those online courses are terrific.

Sure. First, I want to echo what you said about Hillsdale College. What a wonderful institution it is. And those online courses are terrific.

I had the opportunity to visit Hillsdale last year and give a lecture up there at the invitation of President Arnn. And I was so impressed by the students as well as by the faculty. And of course, President Arnn himself has just done an amazing job in building Hillsdale into such a powerhouse intellectual institution. So Bravo to Hillsdale. I'm delighted that you're associated with them, Charlie.

I had the opportunity to visit Hillsdale last year and give a lecture up there at the invitation of President Arnn. And I was so impressed by the students as well as by the faculty. And of course, President Arnn himself has just done an amazing job in building Hillsdale into such a powerhouse intellectual institution. So Bravo to Hillsdale. I'm delighted that you're associated with them, Charlie.