Gary Wynn
Appearances
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
Absolutely. And it's funny, I was thinking about this. We talked to her friend, Karen Hudgens. So that was when she went and started a new life in Camarillo, California. This woman met her after this crime happened. They became the best of friends. Their sons were born the same week. They were married on the same day. Karen knows everything that happened.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
You cannot tell that woman that Sabrina is guilty, you know? And she actually was such a good friend that she took in Sabrina's son.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
Yes, I remember we did some stuff at GMA, and this was our first opportunity to work together in 2020, and what a great story.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
Absolutely. And you were coming from Los Angeles, and it's about 90 miles from Los Angeles. So that morning, we were going to a diner that we had rented to set up and do your interview with Detective Grantham. And coincidentally, or horribly, the night before, there was a pipe burst in the hotel. So...
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
So it was kind of like a waterfall in the room. And we're like, oh, gosh, I hope we just need to get on site to make sure we're ready for Deborah. And of course, we made it and we were there. But the best part was that we'd been there several days shooting around that complex where Rob Limone had worked. And the weather was awful. It rained every day.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
Absolutely. And that's a great point that, you know, it really is in the middle of nowhere. And if you did not know that that industrial park was there, you wouldn't stumble upon it. You wouldn't find it. Which is part of the story later, too. Absolutely. And so when we went actually to scout it on the first trip out there. we realized that there was no way to see where this happened.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
It was next to a train that was running one of the BNSF trains. And so I was able to get in contact with the owners of the industrial park, because the BNSF rented a space there, and that's where Rob LeMond was murdered. We rented a unit in that industrial park so that we could be in there and, you know, get shots of the exterior. We actually could see the unit where this took place.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
You know, you can have a sit-down interview, and that's going to give you your information. But when you have an opportunity to be out there, you know, where this actually happened so that we can help the audience sort of visualize. And that was, you know, not only where the crime happened, there was another key piece of evidence, which was that camera that you and Detective Grantham talked about.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
And that was in that industrial park. And this camera actually saw a figure limping across.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
Exactly. And that, as we later find out, turned out to be the person who committed the crime.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
But being able to be there, you interviewed Detective Grantham out there, and he was able to explain to you exactly the significance of that and what that meant to see. Jonathan. Let's listen.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
Absolutely, yeah. It was red all around, and you just saw the white streak going back above his ears.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
Yeah, terrific guy. And they were from Kern County, which is, you know, Bakersfield way. He really knew the area. You know, all of the detectives, him and Tommy Robbins, who we spoke to as well. Yeah, those guys just, they did not stop digging. And it was fascinating.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
It really is just about trying to have as much production value as we can in every scene. So this is a scene where you are actually on where this crime happened, where there's a key piece of evidence, that camera. And that is what we try to do is bring people in there so that it's one thing to have an interview and someone's telling you about what happened.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
But when we can get out there and you can actually visualize it and see and help the audience see, that makes a big difference.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
On that road, Goodrick Road, going into where the industrial complex is, there was a business that had a camera, a surveillance camera, and they saw a motorcycle go by, which was, of course, Jonathan Hearn, as we learn later. So what we did is, okay, we need to show this motorcycle.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
You know, we need to worry about the visual things, you know, trying to illustrate, you know, what this looked like. So we rented a motorcycle and, you know, we had point of view shots so that we could actually take that motorcycle on the same route that Jonathan had taken that day when the murder took place.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
It was a good hour away. And then afterwards, there was more security footage that they saw him in a convenience store. So that was, for us, we wanted to be able to show visually what that, that's like the B-roll, what we call B-roll, and be able to show the motorcycle and show how it came in here and show the whole route.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
And it was also strange because what would somebody be doing there? They thought it was probably just a transient because it didn't make any sense why this person would –
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
Initially after, in the aftermath, people were shocked, devastated, you know, really rallying around them. The funeral, I mean, it was overflowing with people. But as time went on a little bit and details start to come out about, you know, what might have been going on, Sabrina started to get harassed in Silver Lakes, according to her sister, her older sister, who we spoke to.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
And her friend, when she moved away to Camarillo, California, Karen Hudgens, said that people, they bumped her car. She had to homeschool her kids because they were getting harassed. So, you know, life for her and the children became untenable in, you know, this place that had been such an idyllic spot for them. Yeah. Yeah. So she moved to Camarillo, California.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
Exactly. She had a cousin there named Billy who we interviewed. And basically, she just needed a fresh start. And the irony is she's getting this fresh start. She's getting her kids connected in a new community. And Jonathan's in jail.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
Absolutely. And one of the other producers on this show booked his Robert Lamont High School football coach, who had just such incredibly nice things to say about what he was as a young man. This coach said that Rob was one of his special players, and he was just that kind of a guy that would thrive with positive reinforcement. And they were humble. They were not wealthy.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
They were, you know, his father would make breakfast burritos and Rob would go out with his father and they would sell them. He would actually sell them at school to different, you know, kids at school and stuff. So everyone, every single person that you speak to and ask about Robert Lamont says that he was just amazing. The greatest guy.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
And I think, you know, you mentioned his daughter wanted to talk to him. I mean, that just gives you a glimpse into, you know, the kind of father he was. It was going to be her first day of school and she wanted to kiss her dad goodnight.