Frankie Tires

We failed in doing too much football with her instead of talking about some of the things going on in her life because that always has some funny spillage around it. But when we talk about these ridiculous things, when Stugat says, and this one's super interesting to me and also a bit baffling, but even Dominique Foxworth, who is really smart...

We failed in doing too much football with her instead of talking about some of the things going on in her life because that always has some funny spillage around it. But when we talk about these ridiculous things, when Stugat says, and this one's super interesting to me and also a bit baffling, but even Dominique Foxworth, who is really smart...

He went to a table with Jerry Jones, sat down to negotiate with him, and when sitting at that table, presumed for a good amount of time, oh, this person knows what they're doing and got to this position because they're brilliant. And then negotiations started and he was like, oh, no, he's not. No, he's not.

He went to a table with Jerry Jones, sat down to negotiate with him, and when sitting at that table, presumed for a good amount of time, oh, this person knows what they're doing and got to this position because they're brilliant. And then negotiations started and he was like, oh, no, he's not. No, he's not.

Why do we do this thing where if you have billions of dollars because you knew how to do something with oil, you are then a brilliant businessman?

Why do we do this thing where if you have billions of dollars because you knew how to do something with oil, you are then a brilliant businessman?

I know, but Dominique sat at that table presuming that that wealth bought him some intellect or leadership or palpable ability to make things that comes with the genius that other people don't have. They're just people. They're people with money, sometimes often inherited money, often money not earned or money earned illicitly. I mean, I'm rich. But this person, Rich, you are not. Oh, no, I'm not.

I know, but Dominique sat at that table presuming that that wealth bought him some intellect or leadership or palpable ability to make things that comes with the genius that other people don't have. They're just people. They're people with money, sometimes often inherited money, often money not earned or money earned illicitly. I mean, I'm rich. But this person, Rich, you are not. Oh, no, I'm not.

Like, no one would assume of you, oh, he's more brilliant than anyone.

Like, no one would assume of you, oh, he's more brilliant than anyone.

Well, can you guys get that video up now? Can you guys get that video up now? Because Stugatz was caught in the parking lot. Frankie Tires, he works security for us. He is someone who keeps the premises safe. And yesterday we caught Stugatz in the wild in the parking garage trying to fix his tire. And he couldn't. It was a bit of an exercise. Frankie Tires also struggled with it, correct? Correct.

Well, can you guys get that video up now? Can you guys get that video up now? Because Stugatz was caught in the parking lot. Frankie Tires, he works security for us. He is someone who keeps the premises safe. And yesterday we caught Stugatz in the wild in the parking garage trying to fix his tire. And he couldn't. It was a bit of an exercise. Frankie Tires also struggled with it, correct? Correct.

Or on purpose?

Or on purpose?

So what do you have me doing? You have me scraping your car? A side swipe, something, something.

So what do you have me doing? You have me scraping your car? A side swipe, something, something.

Just of the tire?

Just of the tire?

He didn't deny it. How would I slash a tire? That's what we're asking. What weapon do you have me having in my car to slash a tire? Your Danny tires. But what do you have? No, he's not. He's Danny Ice Picks. Keep up. So an ice pick? An ice pick? It is cold out down there. Your cigar cutter.

He didn't deny it. How would I slash a tire? That's what we're asking. What weapon do you have me having in my car to slash a tire? Your Danny tires. But what do you have? No, he's not. He's Danny Ice Picks. Keep up. So an ice pick? An ice pick? It is cold out down there. Your cigar cutter.

I think you guys underestimate, first of all, Stugatz has a good car, and his loaners are good, and his tires are good. Not great. There are no cheap tires on what it is that Stugatz is driving around, and no, put it on the pole, Juju, can you flatten a tire with a cigar?

I think you guys underestimate, first of all, Stugatz has a good car, and his loaners are good, and his tires are good. Not great. There are no cheap tires on what it is that Stugatz is driving around, and no, put it on the pole, Juju, can you flatten a tire with a cigar?

Maybe you had Elise do it. Ha ha ha. You think I can flatten a car tire with a cigar?

Maybe you had Elise do it. Ha ha ha. You think I can flatten a car tire with a cigar?

Wouldn't you guys imagine that the... weapon to take out a tire, to flatten a tire that isn't just, you know, letting the air out of the tire.

Wouldn't you guys imagine that the... weapon to take out a tire, to flatten a tire that isn't just, you know, letting the air out of the tire.

No, but what is the weapon that you imagine I would have to have in my car to do that? I think this is harder than you guys believe it is if you're accusing me of shivving Stugas' tire in an act of rage. Yeah. Or whatever the act is. I don't know what the act is, just to make his life even more difficult than it already is.

No, but what is the weapon that you imagine I would have to have in my car to do that? I think this is harder than you guys believe it is if you're accusing me of shivving Stugas' tire in an act of rage. Yeah. Or whatever the act is. I don't know what the act is, just to make his life even more difficult than it already is.

We will conduct an investigation with Frankie Tires. We will report whatever it is that we find there. I also want to say, in keeping with thanking our sponsors, long-time sponsor, 1-800-Flowers. Oh, wow. Yeah, 1-800-Flowers is back, yes, in time for Valentine's Day, which means escalating threats are beginning today to tell you what it is that I'm going to do to you.

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That's just starting, though, right? That's the early rounds of threatening, right? I think that, you know where this is going to escalate to? More heat talk? Yes. No. More politics. No. More politics. Yes. Buy flowers. That's what's going to happen. Yes. What is going to happen is it will escalate in I'm just doing a political show for three months.

That's just starting, though, right? That's the early rounds of threatening, right? I think that, you know where this is going to escalate to? More heat talk? Yes. No. More politics. No. More politics. Yes. Buy flowers. That's what's going to happen. Yes. What is going to happen is it will escalate in I'm just doing a political show for three months.

I know. Please. No.

I know. Please. No.

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It's just getting started with the ice pick to the tires. I tried the cigar. It went out.

It's just getting started with the ice pick to the tires. I tried the cigar. It went out.

No, no. Yeah, well, yes. Well, just to avoid these conversations.

No, no. Yeah, well, yes. Well, just to avoid these conversations.

Buy them for us, but don't send them here. You don't have to. No, no, we're good. But support 1-800-Flowers because they're back as a sponsor, and we are grateful for the people who sponsor us. As I go back on Mike McCarthy, though, because what Chris Cody is saying is, I think, pretty interesting. Like, if we're... Most valuable franchise in sports.

Buy them for us, but don't send them here. You don't have to. No, no, we're good. But support 1-800-Flowers because they're back as a sponsor, and we are grateful for the people who sponsor us. As I go back on Mike McCarthy, though, because what Chris Cody is saying is, I think, pretty interesting. Like, if we're... Most valuable franchise in sports.

We overvalue these general people who are managers. And in that case, Mike McCarthy was bringing championship pedigree while being what we all think is an administrative assistant to Jerry Jones. And then embarrassing home losses by 20 points all the time. Just didn't play a meaningful game. Dak Prescott got hurt. Obviously, that's part of it. But Mike McCarthy doesn't want to work there anymore.

We overvalue these general people who are managers. And in that case, Mike McCarthy was bringing championship pedigree while being what we all think is an administrative assistant to Jerry Jones. And then embarrassing home losses by 20 points all the time. Just didn't play a meaningful game. Dak Prescott got hurt. Obviously, that's part of it. But Mike McCarthy doesn't want to work there anymore.

When we do this stuff with the leaders... And we all saw in Dan Campbell when he was here, we all spent time laughing at that. Is the leader's job to bring the rah-rah and then just the coordinators who are outsmarting you? Because one of the interesting things that came from the reporting after Bill's chiefs is that they were talking in the reporting. They were talking to the Bill's center.

When we do this stuff with the leaders... And we all saw in Dan Campbell when he was here, we all spent time laughing at that. Is the leader's job to bring the rah-rah and then just the coordinators who are outsmarting you? Because one of the interesting things that came from the reporting after Bill's chiefs is that they were talking in the reporting. They were talking to the Bill's center.

And I want to read this to you because it's the difference between the Super Bowl and not. So Osiris Torrent, it's a great name. It is. Osiris for a center. Oh, so good. He's talking about the blitz. He's talking about the last play on fourth and five for the Bills and what it is they were disguising. Mike Ryan called it satanic yesterday. He's like, they set it up is what Torrent says.

And I want to read this to you because it's the difference between the Super Bowl and not. So Osiris Torrent, it's a great name. It is. Osiris for a center. Oh, so good. He's talking about the blitz. He's talking about the last play on fourth and five for the Bills and what it is they were disguising. Mike Ryan called it satanic yesterday. He's like, they set it up is what Torrent says.

Quote, they set it up. It was like they were waiting to get in that situation all game to bring that one pressure. That the whole game they were dropping out of that and they were showing it and dropping out of it and the Bills made the call.

Quote, they set it up. It was like they were waiting to get in that situation all game to bring that one pressure. That the whole game they were dropping out of that and they were showing it and dropping out of it and the Bills made the call.

It's like the best strategists would bait you in on a fishing line to try and get you in just like, I'm going to keep doing this and doing this and doing this. And when the game, it gets unpredictable and it becomes, they've won 17 straight by this much. More than any team in the history of the sport. Field goal here and there.

It's like the best strategists would bait you in on a fishing line to try and get you in just like, I'm going to keep doing this and doing this and doing this. And when the game, it gets unpredictable and it becomes, they've won 17 straight by this much. More than any team in the history of the sport. Field goal here and there.

Yes, they've got the best quarterback, but things like that where Josh Allen on fourth and five in that situation, you're hopeful if you're the Chiefs, but fourth and five for the Bills is a good situation for the Bills.

Yes, they've got the best quarterback, but things like that where Josh Allen on fourth and five in that situation, you're hopeful if you're the Chiefs, but fourth and five for the Bills is a good situation for the Bills.

Their ability to get five yards there with Josh Allen in their offense, that's what was happening in that game where you couldn't make one mistake and then at the very end, surprise.

Their ability to get five yards there with Josh Allen in their offense, that's what was happening in that game where you couldn't make one mistake and then at the very end, surprise.

Of course it is. But I would also say to you that when we analyze these coaching hires, they've all tried to get that kind of attention to detail. They all try to be prepared for all of the permutations. And then Eberflus is doing the game management at the end where you're like, what are they doing?

Of course it is. But I would also say to you that when we analyze these coaching hires, they've all tried to get that kind of attention to detail. They all try to be prepared for all of the permutations. And then Eberflus is doing the game management at the end where you're like, what are they doing?

How can it be that incompetent when, of course, it's going to look like that sometimes with a rookie quarterback? It's the way it used to look all the time with the rookie quarterbacks. Jaden Daniels is going to spoil us now. We're going to end up in a place where, oh, there's no learning curve anymore? Can you guys look for me how many interceptions Peyton Manning threw his first year?

How can it be that incompetent when, of course, it's going to look like that sometimes with a rookie quarterback? It's the way it used to look all the time with the rookie quarterbacks. Jaden Daniels is going to spoil us now. We're going to end up in a place where, oh, there's no learning curve anymore? Can you guys look for me how many interceptions Peyton Manning threw his first year?

Like, it's what it used to be, and we're making the hardest position in sports, harder than it's ever been. We're making it for people we're asking to play younger than they have or quicker than they have, and then we entrust their futures to a Dan Campbell who the media can't decide whether he knows what he's doing or not until he's 14-3.

Like, it's what it used to be, and we're making the hardest position in sports, harder than it's ever been. We're making it for people we're asking to play younger than they have or quicker than they have, and then we entrust their futures to a Dan Campbell who the media can't decide whether he knows what he's doing or not until he's 14-3.

But you say that that Andy Reid had it. He had Eric Biennemi. And now Eric Biennemi is going to have trouble finding a job. Like he was a he was a hot coaching candidate because he was supposed to be. Right. Whatever this thing is. And then no one hires him to be that thing. And then he flames out at UCLA very quickly after falling down the ladder at Mike.

But you say that that Andy Reid had it. He had Eric Biennemi. And now Eric Biennemi is going to have trouble finding a job. Like he was a he was a hot coaching candidate because he was supposed to be. Right. Whatever this thing is. And then no one hires him to be that thing. And then he flames out at UCLA very quickly after falling down the ladder at Mike.

My larger point is most of the people talking about this don't know what they're talking about when it comes to was that a good defensive coordinator hire. Like, we saw Fangs down here. He was plenty good. Everybody knows he's good. That's why he gets paid higher than everybody else.

My larger point is most of the people talking about this don't know what they're talking about when it comes to was that a good defensive coordinator hire. Like, we saw Fangs down here. He was plenty good. Everybody knows he's good. That's why he gets paid higher than everybody else.

Liam Cohen, you can't get behind?

Liam Cohen, you can't get behind?

Dan Campbell, you can get behind.

Dan Campbell, you can get behind.

What is the best of the coaching names? Because I think there's a three.

What is the best of the coaching names? Because I think there's a three.

Lombardi. I think there's a three-syllable count here. McCarthy. I think what we're doing here, you guys are saying Dan Campbell. I think it's a three-syllable count that what you need on the name. I'm not certain.

Lombardi. I think there's a three-syllable count here. McCarthy. I think what we're doing here, you guys are saying Dan Campbell. I think it's a three-syllable count that what you need on the name. I'm not certain.

It's pretty good, but I think it's great because it's two syllables.

It's pretty good, but I think it's great because it's two syllables.

McCarthy. McCarthy's good.

McCarthy. McCarthy's good.

What are the bad names and what are the good names?

What are the bad names and what are the good names?

Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. No matter what you do for a living, do you want to be named Eberflus?

Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. No matter what you do for a living, do you want to be named Eberflus?

Is it a great coaching name?

Is it a great coaching name?

Really, he can. How about Chuck Knox? I don't know what you're doing to Eberflus as a podiatrist. Why won't you let Eberflus? You're keeping him above your waist?

Really, he can. How about Chuck Knox? I don't know what you're doing to Eberflus as a podiatrist. Why won't you let Eberflus? You're keeping him above your waist?

Why is Eberflus not allowed near your feet? I don't understand.

Why is Eberflus not allowed near your feet? I don't understand.

No, he spelled it B-E-N-D-O-V-A. He was a foreigner.

No, he spelled it B-E-N-D-O-V-A. He was a foreigner.

Cliff's a good name, I think.

Cliff's a good name, I think.

That is a good name.

That is a good name.

No, he's a hack. No, you guys are doing this thing where you... You couldn't hack it. He's right. Yeah.

No, he's a hack. No, you guys are doing this thing where you... You couldn't hack it. He's right. Yeah.

Was he wrong about that? Let's recap here. I took a hack.

Was he wrong about that? Let's recap here. I took a hack.

After Dr. Bendova. You guys are just playing the hits. Like, look at the two of you.

After Dr. Bendova. You guys are just playing the hits. Like, look at the two of you.

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Just the lowest common denominator humor.

Just the lowest common denominator humor.

No. That's a terrible name. No. Shermer. That M in there. The M so close to the R. I don't trust any of it.

No. That's a terrible name. No. Shermer. That M in there. The M so close to the R. I don't trust any of it.

What is that?

What is that?

What year was it?

What year was it?

Okay. Abe Gibran. Well, the 500-pound. Can you get me the weight? In that day?

Okay. Abe Gibran. Well, the 500-pound. Can you get me the weight? In that day?

Get me the weight, please, of Abe Gibran. A truly terrible football coach's name.

Get me the weight, please, of Abe Gibran. A truly terrible football coach's name.

I'm telling you, we could have spent a month here and I wouldn't have landed there. I would have named all sorts of college coaches, pro coaches, coaches from all sports before I arrived at a 1970s Bears coach who was fat and named Abe.

I'm telling you, we could have spent a month here and I wouldn't have landed there. I would have named all sorts of college coaches, pro coaches, coaches from all sports before I arrived at a 1970s Bears coach who was fat and named Abe.

Was he in a plane crash? 42 and 11?

Was he in a plane crash? 42 and 11?

If he was in a plane crash, we'd have to say he's a good coach.

If he was in a plane crash, we'd have to say he's a good coach.

No, I'm willing to extend it to good coach. I'm willing to do this for sports figures as part of your one-time exemption.

No, I'm willing to extend it to good coach. I'm willing to do this for sports figures as part of your one-time exemption.

That's because it's so many years ago that nobody's going to care. So he's a plane crash away? It's Abe Gibson. It's Abe Gibson in the 50s.

That's because it's so many years ago that nobody's going to care. So he's a plane crash away? It's Abe Gibson. It's Abe Gibson in the 50s.

Let's hear him out. You know what? Hold on a second. Hold on. I've got an employee. No, no, no, no, no. I'm with Chris Cody here. Hold on, everybody. No, I'm not surprised that Billy and Stugatz would push. Everybody, hold on a second. This is a loving son taking care of his dad.

Let's hear him out. You know what? Hold on a second. Hold on. I've got an employee. No, no, no, no, no. I'm with Chris Cody here. Hold on, everybody. No, I'm not surprised that Billy and Stugatz would push. Everybody, hold on a second. This is a loving son taking care of his dad.

Who are you going to piss off, Greg?

Who are you going to piss off, Greg?

That's a fine.

That's a fine.

You're paying my fine for me? No, I'm paying mine, so go ahead. Let's say you pay right now. I'm paying right now. Get yours right now.

You're paying my fine for me? No, I'm paying mine, so go ahead. Let's say you pay right now. I'm paying right now. Get yours right now.

That's a fact that it worries you?

That's a fact that it worries you?

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Good, I'm glad I waited for you to really close us out there strong.

Good, I'm glad I waited for you to really close us out there strong.

Okay, at Levitard Show, please, Juju, when there are 40 people on one side of the plane, are they going to allow 18 others to be on the other side? No. I will allow. I've paid my fine. Get your phone. I'm not going to keep asking you guys on behalf of the sponsors to respect the sponsors.

Okay, at Levitard Show, please, Juju, when there are 40 people on one side of the plane, are they going to allow 18 others to be on the other side? No. I will allow. I've paid my fine. Get your phone. I'm not going to keep asking you guys on behalf of the sponsors to respect the sponsors.

The idea that that happens on small, small planes is true. The smallest of planes is true, that they have to be careful with what weighs what. It is not something that is true of larger planes.

The idea that that happens on small, small planes is true. The smallest of planes is true, that they have to be careful with what weighs what. It is not something that is true of larger planes.

That's more fines for you for your phone going off.

That's more fines for you for your phone going off.

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I'm going to cancel grid of death and you guys are going to be happy and we're not going to be able to have the sponsor because we're just going to get rewarded for people not doing things.

I'm going to cancel grid of death and you guys are going to be happy and we're not going to be able to have the sponsor because we're just going to get rewarded for people not doing things.

So the general rebellion around here, it needs to stop in the face of sponsors that are more supportive than any we have ever had. And you still don't have your Venmo?

So the general rebellion around here, it needs to stop in the face of sponsors that are more supportive than any we have ever had. And you still don't have your Venmo?

While you owe money from previous fines you have not paid and it is still owed...

While you owe money from previous fines you have not paid and it is still owed...

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We had a good joke set up at the end of the last segment. It was right there. All it required was a clean edit. And we stumbled and fell down on our face. I want to say we will do better, but we will not. It could have been a good joke, though. It was right there for us.

We had a good joke set up at the end of the last segment. It was right there. All it required was a clean edit. And we stumbled and fell down on our face. I want to say we will do better, but we will not. It could have been a good joke, though. It was right there for us.

The Jets make it very easy, Stugatz. These losers giving press conferences make it very easy. Look, I believe this show is now officially jaded enough. That no matter how much coaching carousel talk you want to do, we're all going to find it funny. Wait, people want Mike McCarthy? The guy who won once with what was then Josh Allen?

The Jets make it very easy, Stugatz. These losers giving press conferences make it very easy. Look, I believe this show is now officially jaded enough. That no matter how much coaching carousel talk you want to do, we're all going to find it funny. Wait, people want Mike McCarthy? The guy who won once with what was then Josh Allen?

Well, they said Chicago, too. They said somehow Chicago, which I imagine Packers fans would welcome. I know.

Well, they said Chicago, too. They said somehow Chicago, which I imagine Packers fans would welcome. I know.

Okay, so I will answer that question in a second. But Mike McCarthy, just going back here at Levitard Show, put it on the poll, please, Juju. Does he look more like Mardi Gras or Key West? Because I got Mardi Gras. And these are two very different looks.

Okay, so I will answer that question in a second. But Mike McCarthy, just going back here at Levitard Show, put it on the poll, please, Juju. Does he look more like Mardi Gras or Key West? Because I got Mardi Gras. And these are two very different looks.

It's a million Mike McCarthy's. They've all got hurricanes in their hands.

It's a million Mike McCarthy's. They've all got hurricanes in their hands.

A pink, fleshy keg. And I think Mardi Gras runs away with this because he's got beads around his neck and he is careening from pub to pub.

A pink, fleshy keg. And I think Mardi Gras runs away with this because he's got beads around his neck and he is careening from pub to pub.

These might be the same places. But a different look.

These might be the same places. But a different look.

I disagree. I disagree because I was there with Greg Cody once and he woke up in a hotel room and he had mashed potatoes in his hair after his friend Tom Jordan had dragged him out of a dungeon where he'd had rip roaring fun that he can't remember.

I disagree. I disagree because I was there with Greg Cody once and he woke up in a hotel room and he had mashed potatoes in his hair after his friend Tom Jordan had dragged him out of a dungeon where he'd had rip roaring fun that he can't remember.

Tom Jordan looks exactly like Mike McCarthy. Just thick, a thick human being. But, but, But can we talk for a second? Because Jessica's criticism is fair because I yawn through all of the coaching hires. Yes, I assume that Ben Johnson will be very good as a coach because the game has been overrun by the McDaniels and the McVeighs. And so if you tell me that that's what he is.

Tom Jordan looks exactly like Mike McCarthy. Just thick, a thick human being. But, but, But can we talk for a second? Because Jessica's criticism is fair because I yawn through all of the coaching hires. Yes, I assume that Ben Johnson will be very good as a coach because the game has been overrun by the McDaniels and the McVeighs. And so if you tell me that that's what he is.

Okay, and if you tell me that somebody else has hired a 28-year-old offensive coordinator now because that's how we're doing it, I'm like, yeah, we're probably making them younger than we ever have, and they're a lot different than Mike McCarthy.

Okay, and if you tell me that somebody else has hired a 28-year-old offensive coordinator now because that's how we're doing it, I'm like, yeah, we're probably making them younger than we ever have, and they're a lot different than Mike McCarthy.

But my whole thing about coaching hires over the last 20 years is we've seen enough of them in this town with the Dolphins and Hurricanes where guys win the press conference constantly. crushed the press conference.

But my whole thing about coaching hires over the last 20 years is we've seen enough of them in this town with the Dolphins and Hurricanes where guys win the press conference constantly. crushed the press conference.

Al Golden crushed the press conference and has spent the rest of his life trying to get back, and now he's a defensive coordinator because largely these guys come in, leadership is difficult, and I don't happen to believe that many of them can bring just some sort of culture of I can do this better than the other guy can, and now we're where the nerds are on

Al Golden crushed the press conference and has spent the rest of his life trying to get back, and now he's a defensive coordinator because largely these guys come in, leadership is difficult, and I don't happen to believe that many of them can bring just some sort of culture of I can do this better than the other guy can, and now we're where the nerds are on

No, this is all computers now and taking advantage of tight windows and it's going to be 30-year-olds thrown to Puka Nakua in space. You know what I mean? That's what the fight's going to be. Not Mike McCarthy, not Saquon Barkley running the ball all over the place.

No, this is all computers now and taking advantage of tight windows and it's going to be 30-year-olds thrown to Puka Nakua in space. You know what I mean? That's what the fight's going to be. Not Mike McCarthy, not Saquon Barkley running the ball all over the place.

He mocked him for weeks. Oh, my God.

He mocked him for weeks. Oh, my God.

Oh, yeah. But all of this stuff is interesting to me, right? Yeah. We love leadership so much. And I believe most people listening to this do believe that Pete Carroll has a thing. Well, he does. That he can bring to the Raiders.

Oh, yeah. But all of this stuff is interesting to me, right? Yeah. We love leadership so much. And I believe most people listening to this do believe that Pete Carroll has a thing. Well, he does. That he can bring to the Raiders.

And in his case, it might just be infectious energy and something that feels a little more positive than whatever the bleak darkness is of winning no playoff games for 22 years in that sport. So maybe Tom Brady and Pete Carroll can concoct something positive That resembles leadership.

And in his case, it might just be infectious energy and something that feels a little more positive than whatever the bleak darkness is of winning no playoff games for 22 years in that sport. So maybe Tom Brady and Pete Carroll can concoct something positive That resembles leadership.

But so many of these people like Urban Meyer come in with a plan and the assumption that they can do something that will impact an environment. And then there are professional problems everywhere. And you need Mike McCarthy to be your trusty veteran janitor because he's been there before and he could personally.

But so many of these people like Urban Meyer come in with a plan and the assumption that they can do something that will impact an environment. And then there are professional problems everywhere. And you need Mike McCarthy to be your trusty veteran janitor because he's been there before and he could personally.

He could probably put a staff together that won't be filled with idiots and can work with everyone from Jerry Jones to the public that funds that team in Green Bay and only wins one championship with Aaron Rodgers.

He could probably put a staff together that won't be filled with idiots and can work with everyone from Jerry Jones to the public that funds that team in Green Bay and only wins one championship with Aaron Rodgers.

I mean, you guys do think it's funny, right, that at the top of the food chain and leadership in the most valuable business that there is in American sports, that McCarthy would turn down Jerry Jones? What did you see from the Cowboys this year that made you think they belonged in the game we just saw with two of their division rivals that are better and younger?

I mean, you guys do think it's funny, right, that at the top of the food chain and leadership in the most valuable business that there is in American sports, that McCarthy would turn down Jerry Jones? What did you see from the Cowboys this year that made you think they belonged in the game we just saw with two of their division rivals that are better and younger?

What proof did you not see that they are galaxies away?

What proof did you not see that they are galaxies away?

And on McCarthy's watch, he fails, and Jerry Jones wasn't going to let him go when the American public had fired him before Thanksgiving. They were losing home games by 20 points in the most expensive stadium in America. Yeah.

And on McCarthy's watch, he fails, and Jerry Jones wasn't going to let him go when the American public had fired him before Thanksgiving. They were losing home games by 20 points in the most expensive stadium in America. Yeah.

North Carolina. Oh, Deion. You've still got Deion in the game.

North Carolina. Oh, Deion. You've still got Deion in the game.

Well, they seem to have been surprised. And Diana, I do trust her reporting. Like, Diana's not being flippant about these things. She proves it all the time that her information's good. Billy, why are you making faces at that?

Well, they seem to have been surprised. And Diana, I do trust her reporting. Like, Diana's not being flippant about these things. She proves it all the time that her information's good. Billy, why are you making faces at that?

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, that's right.

She probably knows. She could probably just find out for you.

She probably knows. She could probably just find out for you.

Are you just going to do the Tony Kornheiser thing the rest of your life where it's just a Tourette's where any name, any word that's a name will allow it? You're going to do that?

Are you just going to do the Tony Kornheiser thing the rest of your life where it's just a Tourette's where any name, any word that's a name will allow it? You're going to do that?

Okay. Thank you. I want to notice it from now on added to your collection of wonderful idiosyncrasies. But it is the laziest way to age comedic.

Okay. Thank you. I want to notice it from now on added to your collection of wonderful idiosyncrasies. But it is the laziest way to age comedic.

Somebody says Spain and you just say Sarah Spain.

Somebody says Spain and you just say Sarah Spain.

It's a magical chemistry you two have.

It's a magical chemistry you two have.

Did you shorten that?

Did you shorten that?

It's important that that be in the middle of our interview.

It's important that that be in the middle of our interview.