Frank Friedberg
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Or they had Google Wave or any of these other nonsense products that didn't work. I'm not calling Google Meat a nonsense product.
Or they had Google Wave or any of these other nonsense products that didn't work. I'm not calling Google Meat a nonsense product.
That's my point. And they've lost market share. They have not won market share by bundling.
That's my point. And they've lost market share. They have not won market share by bundling.
And if you, as an entrepreneur, come up with a much better product than Google Meet, a VC will say, wow, we can go and blow up the side of the hull of that ship. I totally disagree with you.
And if you, as an entrepreneur, come up with a much better product than Google Meet, a VC will say, wow, we can go and blow up the side of the hull of that ship. I totally disagree with you.
Microsoft bought Skype how many years ago for $8.5 billion and then Zoom came around and blew that market up. And Zoom is a standalone, unbundled product and they totally dominated the market while everyone else has been doing bundling.
Microsoft bought Skype how many years ago for $8.5 billion and then Zoom came around and blew that market up. And Zoom is a standalone, unbundled product and they totally dominated the market while everyone else has been doing bundling.
I would argue Figma, Adobe. Adobe has a bundling solution. If you guys have ever tried to sign up for Adobe or end your subscription, it's nearly impossible. Yeah, they just had action taken against them for that. They've got these insane practices. They make you buy everything to get access to one thing. And then Figma comes along and Figma... Figma kills the market.
I would argue Figma, Adobe. Adobe has a bundling solution. If you guys have ever tried to sign up for Adobe or end your subscription, it's nearly impossible. Yeah, they just had action taken against them for that. They've got these insane practices. They make you buy everything to get access to one thing. And then Figma comes along and Figma... Figma kills the market.
They come in and they're like, we're a better product. Better markets do win even with bundling. That's my argument.
They come in and they're like, we're a better product. Better markets do win even with bundling. That's my argument.
It doesn't compete with Photoshop. It competes with some of their other design programs, but that's anyway.
It doesn't compete with Photoshop. It competes with some of their other design programs, but that's anyway.