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Right. Our team had a goal of $2.4 million a month. And there were 23 teams in the company. You could see the leaderboard and how well each team is doing.

Right. Our team had a goal of $2.4 million a month. And there were 23 teams in the company. You could see the leaderboard and how well each team is doing.

There are more steps, yes. But here's where it gets weird. And you lose track of your steps. So let's say I had someone pay extra to get their degree quickly and we send them the degree. Well, we could go in a lot of different directions from here. One might be to call them up and say there's been a mistake in the degree. You could just make up whatever you wanted at this point.

There are more steps, yes. But here's where it gets weird. And you lose track of your steps. So let's say I had someone pay extra to get their degree quickly and we send them the degree. Well, we could go in a lot of different directions from here. One might be to call them up and say there's been a mistake in the degree. You could just make up whatever you wanted at this point.

Like you might say, sorry to inform you, but there's been an error. You didn't take all the courses you needed to earn this degree. I'm sorry, but we have to revoke your degree. and then try to sell them on more courses. Or you might tell them that their certification has expired and they need a new one.

Like you might say, sorry to inform you, but there's been an error. You didn't take all the courses you needed to earn this degree. I'm sorry, but we have to revoke your degree. and then try to sell them on more courses. Or you might tell them that their certification has expired and they need a new one.

Once we told someone their degree wasn't valid until you get an authentication certificate which is signed by a senator. And it costs an extra $7,500 to get that. People were taking this to extreme levels. The company just didn't care how you got money from these people. Just get money from them. Any way you can.

Once we told someone their degree wasn't valid until you get an authentication certificate which is signed by a senator. And it costs an extra $7,500 to get that. People were taking this to extreme levels. The company just didn't care how you got money from these people. Just get money from them. Any way you can.

So, some of us would call the person and pose as the local government and say something like, Sir, I'm calling from the government about your degree. Congratulations on your degree but unfortunately it's not valid in this country until you pay an importation fee of $10,000. And we'd get people to pay us all these extra fees. Dang, that's cold, dude. Yeah.

So, some of us would call the person and pose as the local government and say something like, Sir, I'm calling from the government about your degree. Congratulations on your degree but unfortunately it's not valid in this country until you pay an importation fee of $10,000. And we'd get people to pay us all these extra fees. Dang, that's cold, dude. Yeah.

Or another was that we'd call them posing as a recruiter for a big company. We'd interview them for a job, hire them, but then say, Oh no, you're missing this one qualification. You need to get an English speaking endorsement, which I know where you can get one for $5,000.

Or another was that we'd call them posing as a recruiter for a big company. We'd interview them for a job, hire them, but then say, Oh no, you're missing this one qualification. You need to get an English speaking endorsement, which I know where you can get one for $5,000.

Oh, and remember when we got them to take a picture of themselves in the graduation gown holding the degree? We'd sometimes use that photo against them. And just try to scam them by acting like someone else and saying, you don't know who I am, but I know you bought a fake degree from this school. Pay me $8,000 or I'll show this photo to your boss.

Oh, and remember when we got them to take a picture of themselves in the graduation gown holding the degree? We'd sometimes use that photo against them. And just try to scam them by acting like someone else and saying, you don't know who I am, but I know you bought a fake degree from this school. Pay me $8,000 or I'll show this photo to your boss.

And dude, you guys are straight up extorting people. Yep, it was bad. It was really bad. But it felt so weird because Exact claimed to be the largest IT provider and had these big buildings and a whole fleet of company vehicles. So everywhere you looked, it felt normal and okay. My parents were proud of me for working in the big office building, you know.

And dude, you guys are straight up extorting people. Yep, it was bad. It was really bad. But it felt so weird because Exact claimed to be the largest IT provider and had these big buildings and a whole fleet of company vehicles. So everywhere you looked, it felt normal and okay. My parents were proud of me for working in the big office building, you know.

And having a butler come bring us dinner at home from a five-star restaurant, it was very strange.

And having a butler come bring us dinner at home from a five-star restaurant, it was very strange.

There was one other thing that we might do with the person we are scamming. Sometimes we'd call them up to try to scam them, but they were just like, no way. I know I've been scammed. I paid all this money for a fake degree. You can't scam me for anymore. I'm on to you. Right? Well, in those cases, we would sometimes say, yeah, you know what? You're right. We are scammers.

There was one other thing that we might do with the person we are scamming. Sometimes we'd call them up to try to scam them, but they were just like, no way. I know I've been scammed. I paid all this money for a fake degree. You can't scam me for anymore. I'm on to you. Right? Well, in those cases, we would sometimes say, yeah, you know what? You're right. We are scammers.