Fatma Tanis
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NPR News: 03-25-2025 5PM EDT
Officials with the United Nations Program on HIV-AIDS said the sudden withdrawal of U.S. support was having a, quote, devastating effect. UNAIDS Executive Director Winnie Biannima said on Monday... that the cuts had led to closures of clinics in many African countries and severe shortages of life-saving HIV medications.
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Bian Yima warned that the cuts would lead to 2,000 new infections each day and over 6 million deaths over the next four years. We'll see it come back and we'll see people dying. the way we saw them in the 90s and in the 2000s. Until the Trump administration's pause on foreign aid, the U.S. had been the biggest funder of HIV treatment and prevention around the world. Fatma Tanis, NPR News.
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NPR News: 02-27-2025 6PM EST
The State Department says it's decided to terminate more than 90% of the agency's grants, quote, as part of the America First agenda. Only 500 will be continued. The State Department says the programs that USAID is keeping includes food and life-saving assistance for HIV, tuberculosis, and malaria.
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But NPR has heard from aid groups that life-saving humanitarian programs, including ones that provide HIV medications and polio vaccinations, have been terminated. It seems that some of those termination notices have gone out in haste because some groups received them twice. But USAID officials and aid groups are worried that cuts to USAID's programs will lead to loss of life.
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In Sudan alone, where there's widespread hunger, more than 1,000 kitchens supported by USAID have closed. Fatma Tanis, NPR News.
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The team discovered there were no radar systems at the airports and that Syrian airport workers had been using radar applications on cell phones to manage flights. They noted that the computers were from the 1990s, there were no metal detector systems, and the runways were in bad condition.
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The transportation minister added that, quote, Syria will need everything in order to rebuild itself from scratch. Fatma Tanis, NPR News, Istanbul.
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Turkey's transportation minister said Syria's airports, bridges, railways and roads all needed fixing. The minister said a Turkish team recently went to inspect Syria's five airports and found only two of them, the ones in Damascus and Aleppo, were operational. but both needed significant upgrades.
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NPR News: 03-28-2025 4PM EDT
The agency's nearly 900 remaining staff received an email saying they would get reduction in force notices and would have to leave their jobs either by July 1st or September 2nd of this year. The email was sent by Jeremy Lewin, who's running the hobbled agency after the administration cancelled thousands of its programs and shrunk the majority of its workforce.
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NPR News: 03-28-2025 4PM EDT
Lewin said staff would be given an option to take leave, but many would be required to stay on to complete the drawing down of operations at USAID, and the transfer of remaining programs to the State Department. In a statement, Secretary of State Marco Rubio said, USAID strayed from its original mission long ago. As a result, the gains were too few and the costs were too high.
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NPR News: 02-21-2025 6PM EST
Unions representing agency employees lost their bid to challenge the administration's moves to dismantle America's aid agency. Two weeks ago, Judge Carl Nichols had issued a pause on the moves to put most of the agency's staff on administrative leave and bring back foreign service officers who are posted overseas, many in conflict zones, within 30 days.
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The unions argued that dismantling the agency would put its overseas staff in danger and cut them off from communication and resources. Judge Nichols said the unions failed to prove irreparable harm to the employees and removed the temporary block. The administration has significantly downsized USAID. Only 600 people out of the more than 10,000 will be allowed to continue working.
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USAID Ruling, Ukraine On Trump Putin Agreement, Gaza Ceasefire Collapse
So a couple dozen USAID employees and contractors sued Elon Musk and Doge, saying that their actions to dismantle the agency were reckless, they were done in a slash and burn manner, and that Musk and Doge didn't have the authority because Musk is not an appointed agency head who wasn't confirmed by the Senate.
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Now, this case is one of several other ongoing lawsuits around the dismantling of USAID, and it stands out because it directly sued Elon Musk and Doge, whereas other lawsuits have named President Trump and senior officials as well. The defense argued that Musk and Doge were only advising USAID officials and that the agency's leaders were actually responsible for what happened.
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USAID Ruling, Ukraine On Trump Putin Agreement, Gaza Ceasefire Collapse
Yeah, he didn't buy it. Judge Theodore Chuang wrote a 68-page opinion detailing why. He said that the evidence showed that, quote, Musk made the decisions to shut down USAID's headquarters and website, even though he lacked the authority to make that decision.
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He said that Musk and Doge team members likely violated the Constitution in multiple ways and deprived Congress of its authority to decide what to do with an agency that it created.
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USAID Ruling, Ukraine On Trump Putin Agreement, Gaza Ceasefire Collapse
Well, there's not really much left of USAID. Most of its contracts have been terminated. The staff have been whittled down to just a couple of hundred people. Now, the judge has blocked Musk from any further steps to shut down USAID, and he ordered Doge to reinstate access for current staff to emails and other electronic systems. But the impact of this ruling is quite minimal.
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USAID Ruling, Ukraine On Trump Putin Agreement, Gaza Ceasefire Collapse
It won't restore the work that the agency was doing before all of this. Humanitarian and development assistance programs, for example, are still cut.
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USAID Ruling, Ukraine On Trump Putin Agreement, Gaza Ceasefire Collapse
Well, people who are critical of Elon Musk and Doge are saying that this is a big deal because there are concerns about what Musk and his team are doing across the federal government and what their authority is. And they say that the administration has been sending mixed messages. For example, President Trump has publicly praised Musk as he and his team gut federal agencies.
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USAID Ruling, Ukraine On Trump Putin Agreement, Gaza Ceasefire Collapse
Trump has said Musk is doing an unbelievable job to eliminate waste and improve efficiency. But in these lawsuits, we're hearing something else. Government lawyers are saying that Musk is not in charge, that he's only there in an advisory role. Now, NPR reached out to the White House to get more clarity on this, but we have not heard back from them.
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USAID Ruling, Ukraine On Trump Putin Agreement, Gaza Ceasefire Collapse
And Norm Eisen, who leads the group representing the plaintiffs in this lawsuit, called the ruling an important victory against Elon Musk and his attack not only on USAID, but the U.S. government and the Constitution, he said. And of course, as you mentioned earlier, President Trump weighed in yesterday and said, quote, I guarantee you we will be appealing.
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USAID Ruling, Ukraine On Trump Putin Agreement, Gaza Ceasefire Collapse
So there's going to be more news to follow on this case.
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USAID Ruling, Ukraine On Trump Putin Agreement, Gaza Ceasefire Collapse
Thank you.
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Trump And Gaza, Migrants At Guantanamo, USAID Staff On Leave
Well, it was a short note. It was not signed by any official, and it said that there would be some exceptions, that essential personnel expected to continue working would be notified by Thursday afternoon. Now, around 10,000 people work for USAID. Most of them are serving overseas, and they've been given 30 days to pack up and come back home.
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Trump And Gaza, Migrants At Guantanamo, USAID Staff On Leave
The note ended with the words, thank you for your service.
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Trump And Gaza, Migrants At Guantanamo, USAID Staff On Leave
Well, they're shocked and gutted. I spoke to several officials at the agency who didn't want to be named because they're not authorized to speak publicly. And they said that this is effectively a shutdown of the agency, and they call the process inhumane. Now, for staff who are overseas, there are other concerns. People have kids in school, spouses who have jobs, they have pets.
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Trump And Gaza, Migrants At Guantanamo, USAID Staff On Leave
It's going to be hard to uproot their lives in 30 days, and many are expecting the next step to be mass layoffs. I also heard concerns about what this means for the U.S. I spoke with Susan Reichli, a retired USAID official, and here's how she put it.
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Trump And Gaza, Migrants At Guantanamo, USAID Staff On Leave
Well, President Trump has been saying that USAID is too independent, that it is full of, quote, radical left lunatics, and that its programs are not in line with his America First policy. Now, people who work in the agency, they say their allegiance is to the Constitution and not to any political party. Many of them served under multiple administrations.
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Trump And Gaza, Migrants At Guantanamo, USAID Staff On Leave
And they say that everything they do down to the countries and the issues that they work on is approved by Congress. Now, since Congress chartered USAID, legal experts say the administration doesn't have the authority to abolish it on its own. But there are still a lot of questions about how this is going to play out.
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Trump And Gaza, Migrants At Guantanamo, USAID Staff On Leave
Well, for now, most programs receiving U.S. foreign aid have been halted. And, you know, there are multiple disease outbreaks going on, Ebola in East Africa. There's a different hemorrhagic fever in Bolivia. These are part of USAID's work overseas. Here's Matt Kavanaugh, the director of global health policy at Georgetown University.
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Trump And Gaza, Migrants At Guantanamo, USAID Staff On Leave
So have distributions of HIV medication and pox vaccines, a therapeutic food for malnourished kids. Millions of people around the world aren't getting those services anymore.
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Foreign Aid Terminated, Migrants At Guantánamo, Legal Challenges To Federal Firings
So the State Department says it's reviewed over 6,000 of USAID's foreign assistant grants, and Secretary of State Marco Rubio has decided to terminate nearly all of them, quote, as part of the America First agenda. Only 500 grants will be continued. Now, those grants funded all kinds of humanitarian and development projects aimed at disease control, migration prevention.
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Foreign Aid Terminated, Migrants At Guantánamo, Legal Challenges To Federal Firings
hunger prevention, supporting human rights. And the same process has happened over at the State Department, where most foreign assistance grants, around 4,100, have been cut. The State Department says they've saved about $60 billion, which is around 1% of the overall federal budget.
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Foreign Aid Terminated, Migrants At Guantánamo, Legal Challenges To Federal Firings
Well, we don't have a full picture. The State Department says that programs that the USAID is keeping includes food and life-saving assistance for HIV, tuberculosis, and malaria. Secretary Rubio had issued a waiver for those after the stop-work order paused all existence foreign aid programs.
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Foreign Aid Terminated, Migrants At Guantánamo, Legal Challenges To Federal Firings
But we're hearing from aid groups and NGOs that life-saving humanitarian programs, including ones that provide HIV medications, have been terminated. So have programs providing vaccination for polio. And it seems like some of those termination notices have gone out in haste because some groups received them twice. Now, one example I can tell you about a program that's been cut is in Nigeria.
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Foreign Aid Terminated, Migrants At Guantánamo, Legal Challenges To Federal Firings
It provided clean water for people who were displaced because of attacks by the militant group Boko Haram.
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Foreign Aid Terminated, Migrants At Guantánamo, Legal Challenges To Federal Firings
One humanitarian official told me, quote, this is a global health massacre. That person was not authorized to speak on behalf of their organization. Now, USAID staff and aid groups are worried that cuts to USAID's programs will lead to loss of life, like in Sudan, where hunger is widespread. And over 1,000 kitchens supported by USAID have closed.
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Foreign Aid Terminated, Migrants At Guantánamo, Legal Challenges To Federal Firings
Also, children around the world who are receiving treatment for acute malnutrition, they've not been getting their medication and are at risk of dying.
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Foreign Aid Terminated, Migrants At Guantánamo, Legal Challenges To Federal Firings
Well, it's been effectively dismantled. Today and tomorrow, hundreds of USAID staff who've been laid off or put on administrative leave will be allowed to go into the headquarters in Washington and pack up their stuff. The building doesn't have agency signage anymore. It's been removed.
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Foreign Aid Terminated, Migrants At Guantánamo, Legal Challenges To Federal Firings
The State Department says the next steps will be working with Congress to reform foreign assistance to ensure that taxpayer dollars are used to, quote, make America better. stronger, safer, and more prosperous. And the government owes about $1.5 billion to many aid organizations for work that was already done before the Trump funding freeze. And that is now tied up in the courts.
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The government was given a deadline to make those payments by midnight yesterday, but the Supreme Court intervened and extended the deadline.
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Foreign Aid Terminated, Migrants At Guantánamo, Legal Challenges To Federal Firings
Thank you.
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More Hostages Go Free, Trump Halts Foreign Aid, RFK Jr.'s Confirmation
Thanks for having me, Scott.
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More Hostages Go Free, Trump Halts Foreign Aid, RFK Jr.'s Confirmation
So it was signed by Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and it says that U.S. foreign assistance will be frozen while a comprehensive review of all programs can be undertaken to, quote, ensure that all foreign assistance is aligned with President Trump's foreign policy agenda. Now, the memo says the review will be completed within 85 days.
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And that means for nearly three months, there's going to be no new funding for any foreign assistance and programs that have already been approved for funding will have to stop work. There are some exemptions, such as foreign military financing for Israel and Egypt, and also emergency food aid.
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It's everything from the building of roads to vaccination programs. And there are also aid efforts in sensitive conflict zones. These are often logistically complicated programs. So once you pause them, it's hard to get things running back up again immediately. And, you know, Scott, we're talking about a lot of investment, around $60 billion worth of That's how much the U.S.
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provides in foreign assistance annually. And it's the biggest financial supporter of development aid in the world. So this is going to have a huge impact across the board. And there's a lot that's still unclear. There are questions about how this is going to affect aid to Ukraine and Taiwan, for example. Also critical global health programs like PEPFAR. That's the U.S.
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More Hostages Go Free, Trump Halts Foreign Aid, RFK Jr.'s Confirmation
effort to combat HIV around the world. And it's credited with having saved 25 million lives.
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More Hostages Go Free, Trump Halts Foreign Aid, RFK Jr.'s Confirmation
So until this review is over, these U.S.-funded programs are likely going to have to cease operations, even furlough or lay off their staff. Employees of USAID, the agency primarily responsible for administering humanitarian and development aid, will be keeping their jobs for now. But I should also note that many of the organizations that partner with the U.S.
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on foreign assistance are based in the U.S. and they employ people here and overseas. So this is going to impact overseas staff in the short term, but it will also lead to layoffs in the U.S. if it continues.
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More Hostages Go Free, Trump Halts Foreign Aid, RFK Jr.'s Confirmation
People are shocked and really worried. A senior official at USAID told me that, quote, the work stop order is completely reckless and disruptive and said it was draconian. The official asked for anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on behalf of the agency. I also spoke to the leader of an organization that partners with USAID. They offer humanitarian assistance.
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More Hostages Go Free, Trump Halts Foreign Aid, RFK Jr.'s Confirmation
And that person told me the administration has, quote, thrown a grenade right into the middle of foreign assistance. This person also spoke on the condition of anonymity, fearing retribution against their organization for speaking out. They said that they would have to pull out their staff who are providing critical services in the field and also lay off U.S. staff.
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The person said that, quote, we can't afford to keep funding our programs because we don't know if we will be reimbursed per our contracts with U.S. agencies. Now, aid experts are also warning that this move could have a destabilizing effect in countries where humanitarian aid is critical. I spoke to Abby Maxman. She's the president of Oxfam America.
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It's a charity that does not take funding from the U.S. government. And here's what she said.
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She's called on the Trump administration to reverse the move before it's too late.
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Thank you for having me.