Fan 8
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
So, Kobe Bryant, 20 years with the same team, 18 All-Stars, 15 All-NBA, 12 All-Defense, MVP, two finals MVPs, five championships. And even though he's done all of that, I think what makes him the greatest Laker of all time, it's different than what makes a player the greatest player of all time. Because like LeBron's not the greatest Heat player of all time, that's Dwyane Wade.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
So it's not just, are you better? Like, are you greater? It's what you've done for that city and that franchise. And I would argue, I love magic. I grew up on magic.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
I'm older than I look, honestly. But Magic, when you saw him on the court, he was like the greatest showman, right? He's a performer, charisma, a smile, the flashiness, Showtime, right? Kobe, when you saw him on the court, it was like watching your brother, you know, your sibling or your uncle or your son, because he had this fully realized character arc. He was a rookie. He failed.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
You know, I mean, not drafted by the Lakers, but we got him, you know, early and the air balls, you know, and then the rising to prominence. He was just 18 years old. Yeah, yeah. The 2000, taking over in the finals after Shaq got hurt, after Jalen Rose shadily sprained his ankle and then he came back and then, you know, he got him back with the 81 later.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Sit down! How are you? I'm doing well, Skip. So I really have to fight you here. First off, you're going to say he's way overrated, and you're comparing him about maybe arguably the best quarterback to ever play the game. Well, not arguably. Well, hold on.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
I mean, we could talk about that, too, but that's not the argument we're going to talk about here because there's a guy named Joe Montana that played this game, too. But ultimately, you're comparing him against the second, like I said, second best quarterback to ever possibly play the game. This guy's been to eight AFC championships in a row. The guy has done... I watched both those Super Bowls.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
I watched him lose the last one. I was real happy about that. I also watched him come back out in the second half and tear the Eagles' defense apart. Now, you could argue that our defensive coordinator was ready to stay in Arizona and not finish out the game. Could be. He still, I don't care how many drugs you had to put in him, what he had to do to repair that ankle.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
He was the one single-handedly that kind of won that game. I could say that he was the one that called the defensive holding because he was the one that was crying about the, and he got the call. But really the play before that was when he ran for 35 yards to be able to get down the field. That play was really what cemented that game.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
And I knew at that point that we weren't going to be able to win because he was going to be able to actually just finish out the clock.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
So I can't argue about that. All I can say is that, hey, everybody else said that the field was a little slippery. I wasn't playing on it. You know, if you slip a little bit and it slips out of your hands, say things happen. There are bounces that happen in football all the time. So ultimately, I can't argue about that. But we were still up at halftime. We still came back in.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
We had the opportunity to go ahead and keep running, and we didn't have that. We didn't do it. We didn't finish the job.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
No, he didn't return that punt. But ultimately, you know what he did, though? He did the game-winning drive to win the game, right? And he's done that a lot. And when you're comparing against other quarterbacks right now, I say right now in the NFL as it sits today, I can't name. another quarterback who's better than him.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
And if you're going to use that, like using that, that doesn't tell me overrated. That tells me that he's a great quarterback. And the fact that you're going to just call him overrated just because Brady played it a lot longer time ago, I would love to have seen. Like I said, that one Super Bowl that he played, that Brady played against him, he was still recovering from... Yeah, the head.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Like I said, he was throwing balls. He was throwing balls. He was throwing balls to his receivers, hitting them in the helmets and stuff like that, and they weren't catching the ball. It was 31-9.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Two touchdowns. What was that one defense? They called a flag on it because of what's-his-face that was...
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
But, and then the championships, and then there was another, he went through kind of a villain arc. He did. You know, there was like Colorado.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
We could talk about this. I mean, let's talk about what was that pass against the Oaklands. We won't go back to that far either. With Brady and how he shouldn't have even won that game.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Yeah, the tuck rule. I'll give you that. But, I mean, ultimately, Patrick Mahomes is a five-star quarterback. He's probably the best quarterback in this league right now. And I will go as far as to say is that he won that first Super Bowl for Kansas City because I know Andy Reid still trying to figure out what play to call.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
And he took over the offense 100%, started to call the plays, and actually was the one that drove the team down. They didn't use Andy's plays. He was the one. calling the plays in that last few minutes.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Now, listen, I love Joe Burrow when he's healthy, when he's great. The problem is that he's part of an organization that doesn't like to play defense, so he's never going to win like that. I watched Joe Burrow's first game against the Eagles where he got sacked eight times and was able to get up all that time.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
He did do that one time. He did do that one time. But he also hasn't been able to get back there, has he? So Joe Burrow's hasn't been that great so that he's been able to get his team beyond everything else. Way to go. Good job.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
All the down years. Good, like it. If you're a fan, you're with, Kobe's with you that whole time. And I actually didn't like Kobe early on. I wanted, I was mad when they started playing him over Eddie Jones, like early days. And you went through all of that and Kobe just won you over. That's why there are more than 350 murals
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Sure, well... Let me address that real quick. Because you're going to the finals and you're talking about Shaq, but that's always with the team from the East, and the East had notoriously bad big men. Everyone knows in those years, the finals was the Western Conference Finals. Yeah. Yeah, and in those series, Kobe was instrumental.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
You know, in 2002, Kobe and Shaq basically throughout the whole playoffs had equivalent points. Yeah, the same amount of points. And Shaq himself has admitted on, you know, various podcasts and different things. He was never the guy to take the last shot. I know you value that, right? Jordan's your guy. Kobe is the closest thing that we've ever seen to Jordan.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
And he was a guy who never shied away from the moment. He was a guy who always made the most of his opportunity when it was there.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
And I don't think he gets enough credit for the second.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
run that he made with pow that team wasn't i mean that's not an all-time team no you know his all-time his breakthrough was not against an all-time team because remember the magic upset lebron's cavaliers to get to the finals right i mean i i give you that but you can only play the team that you know i think lebron maybe he's the one who did they had the mackey commercials you know but lebron did it supposed to be he didn't hope hold up his end in the bargain i mean because
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
I'm not okay with it, but I mean, are you okay with 84, Tragic Johnson, where, you know, runs out the clock, throws the turnover?
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
I have one minute left to be able to do this. Not you again. Me again. Me again. All right. So I have to start this off. First off, Belichick has won more rings, right? He's got more rings than Tom Brady does, right? And like I said, that one game that he won out in Tampa, after that, what did he do? I don't remember him doing so well. I think he made it to the playoffs.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
He did beat the Eagles in the playoffs because I was there. But after that, he didn't do much after that because they kind of needed each other,
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
at that okay but you know but against the rams he was really good and then cooper cup they they blew an assignment let him loose at the end of the game well but i can't again that's that's on that but that being said they said we won 41 to 33 against him and he had 500 yards in fact every time he went for 500 yards they usually lose that 505 that remains the all-time playoff record
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Right, and I think that that was one of the best Super Bowls, but every time he's thrown for 500 yards, they usually lose those games, right? So Belichick, Belichick has been that guy who's been able to do with the defenses because, listen, there wasn't a touchdown thrown in the next Super Bowl, right, in Super Bowl 53? But, okay, good job. Congratulations.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
You mean after the pout? Yeah, after the pout. To me, those failures you're pointing at, every player has failures, except for maybe who's your GOAT. But every player has that. Magic has that. Kobe has that. I think...
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
I'm about to get voted out, real quick. Real quick, real quick. Were any of those finals really competitive? Pacers, Sixers, and Nets. No, they weren't competitive.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
I think Kobe could easily have had better numbers. He didn't have to. You know, Shaq... Those teams were not equipped to play against the Lakers. Credit Allen Iverson for getting the one game in 2001.