Fan 7
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Because I'm ready to come get you.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Okay, I'm going to start here with you. You want to discredit talking about one and nine in the playoffs and then not even talk about the fact that he couldn't even get to the finals in his first six, seven seasons, right? So you prefer somebody not even making it to the finals? That's crazy.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
So you want to hold somebody accountable for going to the finals and losing, then not going to the finals at all, right? More money to the city, so many more things accomplished, less players on the team, right? Then his other final losses, right? You could even talk about the fact that when he went up against the Warriors, he didn't even have a running mate with him either.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
So every time you want to protect Jordan, I knew you were going to go with 6-0.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
No, you see, that's where you're trying to pick and choose, right? You want to talk about clutch games, but then you don't want to talk about how he's dragged so many teams to the finals, right? And he's the one hitting the game-winning shots, right? The same way he took Toronto out, right? The amount of times he did that countless times, you don't want to talk about that.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
You want to only talk about when Jordan does it in the finals as if Jordan's career was only six years. He's six in the finals, but his career isn't six years. He had six to seven years before that. And then he had another two years in the Washington Wizards at 40 years old. We don't want to talk about LeBron at 40 now.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
They literally tried to drag him out the court. Gilbert Arenas talked about how they literally was ready to hand him the keys and get Jordan out of there by 40. He was a cancer.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
You want to count everything about LeBron, but then take some years out.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
And he came back because he was— And greatness means keep playing year in and year out. Every year, LeBron keeps extending his career because the love of the game, and that matters, right? His heart is still in it.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Could you not argue that LeBron should have gotten way more MVPs? Because he was always the best player all those years, but they don't count it. So now we're going to take away accolades for him versus at a time.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
And he has more buzzer beaters than Jordan.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
You're only talking about the playoffs. Nine to eight.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
But the game is more than just game winning shots. You know that, right? No, I know that. Right now you're going down a rabbit hole if you want to talk about like clutch shots, end of game. But there's 47 minutes before that you got to play.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Why is basketball so much about the last 30 seconds when there's 47 minutes and 30 seconds in the game?
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Oh, it's fashion. You got me, touche. You talked about culture, right? I think Bill Belichick set up the Patriots and built a system where Tom Brady thrived, right? I personally believe if Drew Bledsoe did not get hurt that first year, they would have won the Super Bowl anyway. You do? I do. Because I believe at that time, Tom Brady benefited from the system that Bill Belichick built, right?
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Later on in the career, you can argue he may have pulled more weight or whatever, but I think Matt Cassel proves that Bill Belichick built a system that Tom Brady thrived in.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Tom Brady's not making tackles. He only plays offense, right?