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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Yeah, I've been ready for this. All right, but first I got to say this. It could be SGA. It could be SDA. You can call the CIA. Lakers and Files. Just gotta get out of the way, all right.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
To win this year's finals? Your friend, Shannon Sharp, yeah. But anyways, let's get back to the prompt, okay. I like facts. Facts, numbers. So do I. You can't lie about facts, okay. I like to propose, I like to say that LeBron is the greatest player of all time because of several reasons. He's the only player to be in the 30-point club, 10K club, 10K club for assist and rebounds.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
He's the only player to be positioned in as a point guard, shooting guard, small forward, power forward, and center at the same time. You have the debate that Michael Jordan or LeBron James is the GOAT in longevity. he's the goal just entirely because of what he's able to accomplish. What he's doing at age 40, he's breaking people's ankles. He's decking on people at age 40.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
And he's averaging as much points as he did in 2013 as the MVP. He averaged 27, seven and seven. He's averaging 25, eight and eight as a 40 year old.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
What are you doing at 22? Yeah, I'm doing stats and facts. You can take the last, like say five, 40 year old players that played in the NBA that played at least 40 games. All right. You can take Manu Ginobili, Dirk Nowitzki, Vince Carter, Jason. You got me. You can take all their retired numbers, put them together and they won't average what LeBron's averaging right now.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Well, it's part of it. I think it's a part of it. And you went to the fact that Jordan is the most clutch player ever. LeBron is actually more clutch than Jordan was. There's a website called Fadeaway World. You can look it up. The criteria for clutch is anything in the last minute.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Well, I'm telling you what I found.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
So I found that they said that clutch means the last minute of a fourth quarter or overtime game with at least 20 field goals attempted. LeBron James is fourth overall, hitting 54 shots. Jordan is 27th, hitting nine of the shots out of 31.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
What's up, Skip? It's a pleasure, man. You're up. Okay, you're talking about everybody else. You're saying all these different things. We got to talk about what overrated is, what that means. You can break it down. Let's talk a little bit literally. You want to talk about his actual rating. Last year, PFF has got him at eight. Player's got him at number four.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
So you're going to sit here and you're going to tell me that that is not an accurate place for that man to be? If he should be lower?
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Okay, but Brady is not even in this conversation. This conversation is not Brady versus Mahomes. The conversation is, is Mahomes overrated? If you want to talk about value, you want to talk about overrated in value, monetary value. Patrick Mahomes, the half a billion dollar man, has been to the Super Bowl Five times? And won a bunch of money. That's good return on investment.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
What was Allen's contract extension that he just got? Josh Allen. Yeah.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
And I thought he deserved it. I agree, 100%. I agree that he deserved it. But he's got insane stats. Passing was similar to Mahomes, but nobody can stop Allen's rushing. That 100%. But then you go stats. You want to look at stats. You want to look at his MVP years. What other player in the NFL that is playing right now has had over an entire regular season of postseason games?
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
That is an MVP season. You take out last season's postseason.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Born and raised KC. Okay. So he has like 5,200 yards. Mm-hmm. So I'm like 30 to 40 touchdowns and 10 INTs. That's less than what Allen has in his INTs or less than what Allen had in his MVP season.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
14 at home. 14 at home. Everybody made such a big deal that he's going to Buffalo on the road.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
He'll play anywhere. It doesn't matter, man.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Okay, if we're bringing other people, what about John Elway? Is he overrated? What's your take? Because this man had a 55-10 loss in the Super Bowl. He did. Like, you're going to say... People take L's. I mean, that's not the topic here, but yeah. Neither is Grady versus Mahomes.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
The fumble. Yeah, totally, totally. But... And with everything else, I sat here for the whole day with you, have been championing the people who win titles. All in the NBA, all you've talked about is the importance of titles. This conversation is going to be just the exact same thing. So how can you say that those titles are important, yet Mahomes has three titles, those don't matter.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
I don't care about Tom Brady. Tom Brady is giving some bland commentary over on Fox or wherever he is now. He's out of the game. Tom Brady is the GOAT. I'm not going to say that Mahomes is at that level yet. He's not. He has not played those seasons.
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1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
A little bit, he's older than Gronk and Gronk's gone. And he's still getting open in the middle of that field. And he's still doing what he used to do.