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KAREN: THE RETRIAL

Impasse: S1-E8

1110.495

Yes.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2128.834

You testified regarding a number of injuries that you referred to as blunt impact injuries, correct?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2134.461

Yes.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2135.562

And to be clear, blunt impact injuries are a very, very large category that includes contusions, lacerations, abrasions, and fractures.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2143.932

Correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2145.146

And you've testified similarly that a blunt object can also refer to a large range of objects. Is that right?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2152.852

Correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2153.693

And I think yesterday you gave the example of a microphone being a blunt object.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2157.576

Correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2158.417

It could also include something like a baseball bat.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2161.479

Correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2162.44

A dumbbell.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2163.541

Could be.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2164.582

The ground.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2165.583

Yes.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2167.084

Or a German shepherd's claws.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2169.546

Claws. Possibly, yes.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2173.052

You'd agree that John O'Keefe had a number of blunt impact injuries on his face, on his head, and his right arm.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2179.855

Yes.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2180.875

Besides his right arm, which we'll discuss in a second, taking his body from the neck down, he did not have any significant injuries.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2189.218

From the neck down, not significant, no.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2191.939

Let's take those one at a time. No injury whatsoever to his shoulders.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2196.761

Correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2198.001

No injuries whatsoever to his chest area, aside from sort of the CPR related injuries that you discussed.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2204.244

Yes, correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2205.144

And that was in the sternum, is that right?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2210.547

Okay.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2211.207

No injuries to his torso, other than that?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2214.109

No.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2215.189

No injuries to his back?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2217.25

No.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2218.091

No injuries to his hips?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2221.032

Correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2221.812

No injuries to his pelvis?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2223.593

Correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2224.694

No injuries to his thighs?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2227.095

No.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2228.26

No injuries to his knees?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2230.282

Correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2231.383

No injuries to his shins?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2233.665

Correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2234.325

No injuries to his ankles?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2235.987

Correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2236.607

No injuries to his feet?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2238.529

Correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2240.01

From the neck down, he did not have a single broken bone, again, aside from those CPR-related injuries you discussed, correct?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2246.716

That's correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2247.616

Not a single fracture?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2249.378

Other than CPR, correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2251.152

And you spoke earlier about how the bumper was a little higher than on, say, a regular sedan, correct?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2256.755

Correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2257.355

And so usually in a pedestrian collision, you would see injuries to the knees.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2261.877

Depending on the kind of car, depending on the speed, depending on the height of the individual and the car, you might see injuries to their lower extremity. Yeah.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2272.242

But in this case, you didn't see any injuries to his thighs, to his pelvis, anything even at the height of the bumper. Is that correct?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2280.322

corrected a very minor abrasion to the side of his right knee.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2294.368

Would you agree that John O'Keefe's injuries, or lack thereof, are inconsistent with having been struck by a vehicle at 24 miles per hour?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2304.505

I would say it's likely and unlikely at the same time, depending on the position of the body and the vehicle in question.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2314.538

Would you agree that John O'Keefe's injury to his arm are inconsistent with having been struck by a vehicle at 24 miles per hour?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2323.447

I don't know. I am not a reconstruction expert. I'm not a biomechanics expert. I never personally inspected the car, so I can't offer an opinion on that.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

Impasse: S1-E8

2341.554

I'd like to talk about the injuries to John O'Keefe's face. You testified that Mr. O'Keefe had a laceration on his right upper eyelid.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2349.137

Correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2350.455

You also described multiple abrasions on this nose.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2354.016

Two, yes.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2355.697

Although these injuries may not have been the ultimate cause of his death, you'd agree that less severe injuries can still be very important in interpreting the manner or the context in which that person died, correct?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2365.941

Correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2366.982

And in furtherance of that, you've been taught that when doing an autopsy, details matter.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2372.184

Correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2373.264

No matter how small.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2374.685

Correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2375.505

And that's one of the reasons as a medical examiner, you have to notate every single injury you find on a person.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2388.25

Do you recognize that photograph?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2390.05

I do.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2390.87

And is that a photograph that was taken in connection with your autopsy?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2393.731

Yes, it was taken at the time of autopsy after the face was cleaned.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2397.952

Are these the facial injuries we were testifying to earlier?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2401.213

Yes.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2402.333

Could you describe in that photograph what injuries you observed in space?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2407.099

The orbital ecchymosis on both eyes, the small laceration to the right eyelid, the abrasions on the nose.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2417.423

And you testified that the injuries to his face were also the result of a blunt force trauma?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2421.625

Correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2422.666

So that's the laceration to the eye and the two abrasions that we see there on his nose?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2427.588

Correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2428.188

And you agree that those injuries don't just manifest out of nowhere, right?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2432.41

They have to originate from something.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2438.083

Would you agree that his injuries to his face are consistent with having been punched?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2443.403

That is a possibility.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2445.844

Your internal examination notes also cite a tongue laceration on the right front of the victim's tongue. Do you recall that?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2452.725

Yes.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2453.805

And you'd agree that a tongue laceration can be also caused by blunt force trauma?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2458.826

Correct.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2460.006

And that could also include something like a punch to the victim's face or jaw.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2464.212

That's a possibility.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2465.753

In addition to the facial injuries, you described that Mr. O'Keefe had a significant laceration on the back of his head.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2472.059

He had one laceration to the back of his head.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2473.94

Correct. We saw a photograph of that a little bit earlier. You testified that the skin around the laceration on the back of his head was also scratched.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2482.968

Yes, I do.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2484.409

But you did not testify as to how you opined that might have happened.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2487.993

No.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2488.885

Would you agree that someone could certainly get scratched on the back of their head if they were, for instance, dragged on the ground?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2496.422

Possible.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2497.691

You described the open wound to the back of his head as a laceration, which is sort of a blunt force injury that's not the result of sharp force trauma. Is that right?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2506.615

Yes.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2507.736

And you'd agree that Mr. O'Keefe's head injury came from some sort of blow to the back of the head, whether it be an object or the ground. Is that right?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2516.42

Yes.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2517.0

And that injury can be the result of falling backward from a standing position onto concrete?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2521.822

It's possible. Okay.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2523.57

It could also be the result of being struck with a large object such as a baseball bat or a barbell.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2622.623

Just about the entire front lawn.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2645.474

Nothing.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2647.395

No.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2653.499

No.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2669.584

The Alberts never had cars that were parked out front. It just stuck out as weird.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2702.132

Yes. What's the difference? The taillights in the back.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2705.354

Ford Edge is more round. The whole back facade is a little bit more round. A Jeep Cherokee, they're more square.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2716.04

I can't tell you that. I am colorblind.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2724.207

I can see things that are light. I can see things that are dark. I can see true colors. I can't see shades of true colors.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2777.711

Based on your extensive training and experience, what is your opinion regarding whether those injuries are consistent with an individual being struck by a vehicle?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2786.215

If you mean struck in that part of the body, on the arm?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2789.317

Yes.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2790.037

Directly. I would say no, it doesn't look like that at all.

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2809.216

In your professional opinion, are those injuries consistent with an animal attack?

KAREN: THE RETRIAL

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2814.289

I would say they are, yes. I'm not 100% sure. I didn't get a chance to analyze it right there on the spot, so to speak. But my basic impression is that these were consistent with marks caused by, say, a dog using his paws or claws, if you want to put it that way, and possibly the teeth as well.

The Dan Bongino Show

Trump Drops The Hammer At Press Conference (Ep. 2389)

3154.016

I think that there are definitions for biological sex. So you're not answering that.

The Dan Bongino Show

Trump Drops The Hammer At Press Conference (Ep. 2389)

3169.767

Oh, I'm simply saying that sex is different than gender. And I do believe that women's sports have a great value. I mean, Senator, I'll tell you right now. Ms.

The Dan Bongino Show

Trump Drops The Hammer At Press Conference (Ep. 2389)

3183.034

I think that there are so many positive benefits to sports.

The Dan Bongino Show

Trump Drops The Hammer At Press Conference (Ep. 2389)

3192.153

I'm saying that there's a difference between sex and gender and that the NCAA has rules in place, which they have for the last decade.