Esther Dyson

It helps have good timing, too.

It helps have good timing, too.

Totally. I mean, and in a slightly different direction, one of my favorite stories was this company, YouBiome, and the CEO is this very smart scientist woman who this was early in the days of microbiomes and so forth. And I asked her, you're clearly really smart, but would you consider bringing in a CEO who actually had run a business? Oh no, I've always wanted to be CEO. So I declined to invest.

Totally. I mean, and in a slightly different direction, one of my favorite stories was this company, YouBiome, and the CEO is this very smart scientist woman who this was early in the days of microbiomes and so forth. And I asked her, you're clearly really smart, but would you consider bringing in a CEO who actually had run a business? Oh no, I've always wanted to be CEO. So I declined to invest.

Totally. I mean, and in a slightly different direction, one of my favorite stories was this company, YouBiome, and the CEO is this very smart scientist woman who this was early in the days of microbiomes and so forth. And I asked her, you're clearly really smart, but would you consider bringing in a CEO who actually had run a business? Oh no, I've always wanted to be CEO. So I declined to invest.

Anyway, three or four years, the business model was to test people's microbiomes and analyze them scientifically. And anyway, the trick was to get insurance to pay for it. So this, they had this questionnaire. Have you ever had diarrhea? Yeah, of course. And basically they started committing insurance fraud, which I don't blame on her. I blame on the board.

Anyway, three or four years, the business model was to test people's microbiomes and analyze them scientifically. And anyway, the trick was to get insurance to pay for it. So this, they had this questionnaire. Have you ever had diarrhea? Yeah, of course. And basically they started committing insurance fraud, which I don't blame on her. I blame on the board.

Anyway, three or four years, the business model was to test people's microbiomes and analyze them scientifically. And anyway, the trick was to get insurance to pay for it. So this, they had this questionnaire. Have you ever had diarrhea? Yeah, of course. And basically they started committing insurance fraud, which I don't blame on her. I blame on the board.

She got basically taken away by the FBI or somebody because became clearer and clearer what was happening. But my sense, and three days later, I looked at the company's website and the board had disappeared. And my sense is, you know, she did always want to be CEO, but she really didn't get, how shall we say, the requirements. And the board probably said, you got to make more money.

She got basically taken away by the FBI or somebody because became clearer and clearer what was happening. But my sense, and three days later, I looked at the company's website and the board had disappeared. And my sense is, you know, she did always want to be CEO, but she really didn't get, how shall we say, the requirements. And the board probably said, you got to make more money.

She got basically taken away by the FBI or somebody because became clearer and clearer what was happening. But my sense, and three days later, I looked at the company's website and the board had disappeared. And my sense is, you know, she did always want to be CEO, but she really didn't get, how shall we say, the requirements. And the board probably said, you got to make more money.

So just run the test again and have insurance pay. Anyway, that was one of the lucky ones I escaped. But you're right. Finding someone who... I look for someone who wants to solve the problem. They're not wedded to them being the CEO. They're not wedded to, I've got the perfect solution. They're wedded to, I need to find out more about the problem.

So just run the test again and have insurance pay. Anyway, that was one of the lucky ones I escaped. But you're right. Finding someone who... I look for someone who wants to solve the problem. They're not wedded to them being the CEO. They're not wedded to, I've got the perfect solution. They're wedded to, I need to find out more about the problem.

So just run the test again and have insurance pay. Anyway, that was one of the lucky ones I escaped. But you're right. Finding someone who... I look for someone who wants to solve the problem. They're not wedded to them being the CEO. They're not wedded to, I've got the perfect solution. They're wedded to, I need to find out more about the problem.

I need to hire really good people to help me and see what works and what doesn't and pivot. But I really want to solve this problem. And then maybe I'll find a bigger problem. But I'm not, my goal is not to be CEO. My goal is not to make my little clever invention work. My goal is to figure out how to do something really useful and get people to appreciate it.

I need to hire really good people to help me and see what works and what doesn't and pivot. But I really want to solve this problem. And then maybe I'll find a bigger problem. But I'm not, my goal is not to be CEO. My goal is not to make my little clever invention work. My goal is to figure out how to do something really useful and get people to appreciate it.

I need to hire really good people to help me and see what works and what doesn't and pivot. But I really want to solve this problem. And then maybe I'll find a bigger problem. But I'm not, my goal is not to be CEO. My goal is not to make my little clever invention work. My goal is to figure out how to do something really useful and get people to appreciate it.

It is. And I can go on at great lengths, but keep going and I'll answer your questions.

It is. And I can go on at great lengths, but keep going and I'll answer your questions.

It is. And I can go on at great lengths, but keep going and I'll answer your questions.