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Yeah, you're like really hands off these days, huh? Number four, you're hands off.

Yeah, you're like really hands off these days, huh? Number four, you're hands off.

Yeah, you're like really hands off these days, huh? Number four, you're hands off.

Yeah, right?

Yeah, right?

Yeah, right?

How old is he now? He's two weeks. That's crazy. He's a little Phoebe.

How old is he now? He's two weeks. That's crazy. He's a little Phoebe.

How old is he now? He's two weeks. That's crazy. He's a little Phoebe.

Thank you so much.

Thank you so much.

Thank you so much.

I feel great. I really do. You look really good. Thank you. Thank you. I actually am going to do a whole, like on our podcast, a whole talk about how different this pregnancy was for me. Because typically I'm like any other pregnant person. I don't know if you were like this, but I ate everything in sight. And like Abe would deliver me a sleeve of Oreos and milk in my bed every single night.

I feel great. I really do. You look really good. Thank you. Thank you. I actually am going to do a whole, like on our podcast, a whole talk about how different this pregnancy was for me. Because typically I'm like any other pregnant person. I don't know if you were like this, but I ate everything in sight. And like Abe would deliver me a sleeve of Oreos and milk in my bed every single night.

I feel great. I really do. You look really good. Thank you. Thank you. I actually am going to do a whole, like on our podcast, a whole talk about how different this pregnancy was for me. Because typically I'm like any other pregnant person. I don't know if you were like this, but I ate everything in sight. And like Abe would deliver me a sleeve of Oreos and milk in my bed every single night.

And like that was my ritual. This time I was like, I'm not going through that again. It took me a year to lose the weight. Und es ist so interessant für mich, weil mein Körper so anders reagiert.

And like that was my ritual. This time I was like, I'm not going through that again. It took me a year to lose the weight. Und es ist so interessant für mich, weil mein Körper so anders reagiert.

And like that was my ritual. This time I was like, I'm not going through that again. It took me a year to lose the weight. Und es ist so interessant für mich, weil mein Körper so anders reagiert.

Großartiger Arzt, den du hattest. Ich weiß.

Großartiger Arzt, den du hattest. Ich weiß.

Großartiger Arzt, den du hattest. Ich weiß.

It is the excuse. It's terrible. And it takes so long to bounce back and it makes you not want to have more kids.

It is the excuse. It's terrible. And it takes so long to bounce back and it makes you not want to have more kids.

It is the excuse. It's terrible. And it takes so long to bounce back and it makes you not want to have more kids.

Yeah, that's what happens, I think. When you get older, it's just not as easy to get it off.

Yeah, that's what happens, I think. When you get older, it's just not as easy to get it off.

Yeah, that's what happens, I think. When you get older, it's just not as easy to get it off.

Yeah. Yeah. I had a feeling after once I saw it, I was like, OK, it does kind of look bad. But also I didn't care because like this is my fourth kid and all my other kids are. Okay, good for you.

Yeah. Yeah. I had a feeling after once I saw it, I was like, OK, it does kind of look bad. But also I didn't care because like this is my fourth kid and all my other kids are. Okay, good for you.

Yeah. Yeah. I had a feeling after once I saw it, I was like, OK, it does kind of look bad. But also I didn't care because like this is my fourth kid and all my other kids are. Okay, good for you.

Das war einer meiner Namen.

Das war einer meiner Namen.

Das war einer meiner Namen.

Ich liebe das Name. Ja, für meinen dritten. Es gibt viele Jungen-Rivers da draußen.

Ich liebe das Name. Ja, für meinen dritten. Es gibt viele Jungen-Rivers da draußen.

Ich liebe das Name. Ja, für meinen dritten. Es gibt viele Jungen-Rivers da draußen.

Oh, we named him after my dad, Elijah. Beautiful. And you're two weeks old?

Oh, we named him after my dad, Elijah. Beautiful. And you're two weeks old?

Oh, we named him after my dad, Elijah. Beautiful. And you're two weeks old?

His name is Jack. Jack Hunter Leachy.

His name is Jack. Jack Hunter Leachy.

His name is Jack. Jack Hunter Leachy.

Yes. They got progressively harder. Actually, with Layla, we were in the hospital. Yeah, they were. It was. Well, Jack, I guess we knew. Jeff, wir haben keine Namen. Ich weiß, wir waren so, als ob sie uns das Papier geben würden, sagen, du wirst das in den E-Mail geben, wenn du uns nicht einen Namen gibst. Du musst entscheiden.

Yes. They got progressively harder. Actually, with Layla, we were in the hospital. Yeah, they were. It was. Well, Jack, I guess we knew. Jeff, wir haben keine Namen. Ich weiß, wir waren so, als ob sie uns das Papier geben würden, sagen, du wirst das in den E-Mail geben, wenn du uns nicht einen Namen gibst. Du musst entscheiden.

Yes. They got progressively harder. Actually, with Layla, we were in the hospital. Yeah, they were. It was. Well, Jack, I guess we knew. Jeff, wir haben keine Namen. Ich weiß, wir waren so, als ob sie uns das Papier geben würden, sagen, du wirst das in den E-Mail geben, wenn du uns nicht einen Namen gibst. Du musst entscheiden.

Es ist lustig. Eigentlich war ihr Name Wolf und Elijahs Mittelname ist Wolf. Also wir dachten, das wäre lustig. Aber, ähm, oder ihr Babys Name war Wolf. Aber ja, Layla war ein schwieriger. Layla war ein schwieriger. Und ich denke, der erste war der einfachste. Ich hatte eigentlich ein Camp. Ich...

Es ist lustig. Eigentlich war ihr Name Wolf und Elijahs Mittelname ist Wolf. Also wir dachten, das wäre lustig. Aber, ähm, oder ihr Babys Name war Wolf. Aber ja, Layla war ein schwieriger. Layla war ein schwieriger. Und ich denke, der erste war der einfachste. Ich hatte eigentlich ein Camp. Ich...

Es ist lustig. Eigentlich war ihr Name Wolf und Elijahs Mittelname ist Wolf. Also wir dachten, das wäre lustig. Aber, ähm, oder ihr Babys Name war Wolf. Aber ja, Layla war ein schwieriger. Layla war ein schwieriger. Und ich denke, der erste war der einfachste. Ich hatte eigentlich ein Camp. Ich...

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Oh, ja.

Oh, ja.

Oh, ja.

Er ist so süß jetzt. Er hat sich wirklich verändert. Er sieht großartig aus.

Er ist so süß jetzt. Er hat sich wirklich verändert. Er sieht großartig aus.

Er ist so süß jetzt. Er hat sich wirklich verändert. Er sieht großartig aus.

Sehr gut. Ja, wie ein feiner Wein. Ja.

Sehr gut. Ja, wie ein feiner Wein. Ja.

Sehr gut. Ja, wie ein feiner Wein. Ja.

Chef lebt so viel.

Chef lebt so viel.

Chef lebt so viel.

Ja.

Ja.

Ja.

Er ist süßer. Ich mag diese Jungs.

Er ist süßer. Ich mag diese Jungs.

Er ist süßer. Ich mag diese Jungs.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Ich war ein Überzeuger und ein Überzeuger, wenn ihr unsere Show gesehen habt. Und es gibt eine leichte Linie. It can get really tricky when you're around somebody who's saying things that, and I don't know that Craig is or isn't. I'm just saying that when you're not accurate, especially on TV, it's really tricky. Because it can be like, you could say something that's a life-ruiner.

Ich war ein Überzeuger und ein Überzeuger, wenn ihr unsere Show gesehen habt. Und es gibt eine leichte Linie. It can get really tricky when you're around somebody who's saying things that, and I don't know that Craig is or isn't. I'm just saying that when you're not accurate, especially on TV, it's really tricky. Because it can be like, you could say something that's a life-ruiner.

Ich war ein Überzeuger und ein Überzeuger, wenn ihr unsere Show gesehen habt. Und es gibt eine leichte Linie. It can get really tricky when you're around somebody who's saying things that, and I don't know that Craig is or isn't. I'm just saying that when you're not accurate, especially on TV, it's really tricky. Because it can be like, you could say something that's a life-ruiner.

How is that just not lying?

How is that just not lying?

How is that just not lying?

Well, that's what I'm saying. I mean, it's like, I mean, because sometimes you tell a story and you want to like make it a little, like ramp it up a little, make it a little funnier. I mean, I sometimes do that when I'm telling a story. It's like, and then it took hours instead of maybe... I don't know, an hour, you know?

Well, that's what I'm saying. I mean, it's like, I mean, because sometimes you tell a story and you want to like make it a little, like ramp it up a little, make it a little funnier. I mean, I sometimes do that when I'm telling a story. It's like, and then it took hours instead of maybe... I don't know, an hour, you know?

Well, that's what I'm saying. I mean, it's like, I mean, because sometimes you tell a story and you want to like make it a little, like ramp it up a little, make it a little funnier. I mean, I sometimes do that when I'm telling a story. It's like, and then it took hours instead of maybe... I don't know, an hour, you know?

Well, that's why, yeah, it's tricky. And especially on TV. Oh mein Gott, Brynn ist wie der Meister-Empfehlscher aller Zeiten. Und sie ist wirklich gut daran. Und übrigens, ich bin von ihr immer wieder überzeugt. Und es ist schwierig. Es ist sehr schwierig, zu navigieren. Besonders auf einem Show.

Well, that's why, yeah, it's tricky. And especially on TV. Oh mein Gott, Brynn ist wie der Meister-Empfehlscher aller Zeiten. Und sie ist wirklich gut daran. Und übrigens, ich bin von ihr immer wieder überzeugt. Und es ist schwierig. Es ist sehr schwierig, zu navigieren. Besonders auf einem Show.

Well, that's why, yeah, it's tricky. And especially on TV. Oh mein Gott, Brynn ist wie der Meister-Empfehlscher aller Zeiten. Und sie ist wirklich gut daran. Und übrigens, ich bin von ihr immer wieder überzeugt. Und es ist schwierig. Es ist sehr schwierig, zu navigieren. Besonders auf einem Show.

Yeah. Maybe he knows. You're 41.

Yeah. Maybe he knows. You're 41.

Yeah. Maybe he knows. You're 41.

Is it early midlife? What's the average lifespan?

Is it early midlife? What's the average lifespan?

Is it early midlife? What's the average lifespan?

I can't warm to the robot talk. When Abe and I first met, his pickup line was how we're going to turn into robots. I have no idea why I continue to see him after that. It worked, don't you? I guess. I was like, oh, weirdo. This is good. Big difference than what I've been around. Average lifespan?

I can't warm to the robot talk. When Abe and I first met, his pickup line was how we're going to turn into robots. I have no idea why I continue to see him after that. It worked, don't you? I guess. I was like, oh, weirdo. This is good. Big difference than what I've been around. Average lifespan?

I can't warm to the robot talk. When Abe and I first met, his pickup line was how we're going to turn into robots. I have no idea why I continue to see him after that. It worked, don't you? I guess. I was like, oh, weirdo. This is good. Big difference than what I've been around. Average lifespan?

What about New Yorkers?

What about New Yorkers?

What about New Yorkers?

Yeah, that was weird.

Yeah, that was weird.

Yeah, that was weird.

That was stupid.

That was stupid.

That was stupid.

That was really silly.

That was really silly.

That was really silly.

What's his sign? They need to go on a Housewives show if they think that's blowing up.

What's his sign? They need to go on a Housewives show if they think that's blowing up.

What's his sign? They need to go on a Housewives show if they think that's blowing up.

And he didn't tell his girlfriend. I'm going to defend Jesse, which I think is probably surprising. But I feel like what happened to him, and I think he's such a sweet guy, just based on the show. But I think what happened to him was he got excited. He liked her. He kind of fell into it. But the guy just cleared himself from having testicular cancer the summer before. He wants to be... Ja, genau.

And he didn't tell his girlfriend. I'm going to defend Jesse, which I think is probably surprising. But I feel like what happened to him, and I think he's such a sweet guy, just based on the show. But I think what happened to him was he got excited. He liked her. He kind of fell into it. But the guy just cleared himself from having testicular cancer the summer before. He wants to be... Ja, genau.

And he didn't tell his girlfriend. I'm going to defend Jesse, which I think is probably surprising. But I feel like what happened to him, and I think he's such a sweet guy, just based on the show. But I think what happened to him was he got excited. He liked her. He kind of fell into it. But the guy just cleared himself from having testicular cancer the summer before. He wants to be... Ja, genau.

I don't know. I kind of feel for him.

I don't know. I kind of feel for him.

I don't know. I kind of feel for him.

live your life get your toes up you know and he was almost trying to please her because she was like I you know I'm very jealous and I want to be exclusive and it seemed like he liked her so much he didn't want to say no but you could see he didn't really want to do that which I wouldn't want to do that either I think even when he introduced her to his parents and in his like ITM he was like yeah I didn't really want to do that but I knew she it meant a lot to her or something and it was like okay you're doing a lot that you don't want to do

live your life get your toes up you know and he was almost trying to please her because she was like I you know I'm very jealous and I want to be exclusive and it seemed like he liked her so much he didn't want to say no but you could see he didn't really want to do that which I wouldn't want to do that either I think even when he introduced her to his parents and in his like ITM he was like yeah I didn't really want to do that but I knew she it meant a lot to her or something and it was like okay you're doing a lot that you don't want to do

live your life get your toes up you know and he was almost trying to please her because she was like I you know I'm very jealous and I want to be exclusive and it seemed like he liked her so much he didn't want to say no but you could see he didn't really want to do that which I wouldn't want to do that either I think even when he introduced her to his parents and in his like ITM he was like yeah I didn't really want to do that but I knew she it meant a lot to her or something and it was like okay you're doing a lot that you don't want to do

Yeah, and so it's like, I mean, it's not right, but it's like you kind of get it.

Yeah, and so it's like, I mean, it's not right, but it's like you kind of get it.

Yeah, and so it's like, I mean, it's not right, but it's like you kind of get it.

What is that? Well, I mean, you know, post-Scandival. Like you're saying Jesse's gonna get that treatment.

What is that? Well, I mean, you know, post-Scandival. Like you're saying Jesse's gonna get that treatment.

What is that? Well, I mean, you know, post-Scandival. Like you're saying Jesse's gonna get that treatment.

Nicht das Schlimmste in der Welt.

Nicht das Schlimmste in der Welt.

Nicht das Schlimmste in der Welt.

I also think it feels different. Sierra and, and Lexi, the situation. Why? Like Sierra clearly really liked West. And he just, I don't, I mean, I don't think he did anything really wrong. I don't know. I don't want to say anything.

I also think it feels different. Sierra and, and Lexi, the situation. Why? Like Sierra clearly really liked West. And he just, I don't, I mean, I don't think he did anything really wrong. I don't know. I don't want to say anything.

I also think it feels different. Sierra and, and Lexi, the situation. Why? Like Sierra clearly really liked West. And he just, I don't, I mean, I don't think he did anything really wrong. I don't know. I don't want to say anything.

Yeah. I mean, maybe he could have been a little like, This one didn't.

Yeah. I mean, maybe he could have been a little like, This one didn't.

Yeah. I mean, maybe he could have been a little like, This one didn't.

Ja, das ist wahr.

Ja, das ist wahr.

Ja, das ist wahr.

That's

That's

That's

The minute you say those words, they're like, it's a thing now, you know, but I agree with you. That sounds like something that he's saying about the show. Like, I feel like I've said that before. And the minute I said that, I was like, fuck, this is going to be a thing.

The minute you say those words, they're like, it's a thing now, you know, but I agree with you. That sounds like something that he's saying about the show. Like, I feel like I've said that before. And the minute I said that, I was like, fuck, this is going to be a thing.

The minute you say those words, they're like, it's a thing now, you know, but I agree with you. That sounds like something that he's saying about the show. Like, I feel like I've said that before. And the minute I said that, I was like, fuck, this is going to be a thing.

I agree with you. That sounds exactly like something we would all say, you know, season one.

I agree with you. That sounds exactly like something we would all say, you know, season one.

I agree with you. That sounds exactly like something we would all say, you know, season one.

I dabble. I love Miami. It's actually like my favorite, which is so random. Beverly Hills, I kind of fell off this season. Yeah, it's a little boring.

I dabble. I love Miami. It's actually like my favorite, which is so random. Beverly Hills, I kind of fell off this season. Yeah, it's a little boring.

I dabble. I love Miami. It's actually like my favorite, which is so random. Beverly Hills, I kind of fell off this season. Yeah, it's a little boring.

I saw that and I love her so much.

I saw that and I love her so much.

I saw that and I love her so much.

Give me the good ones. I'm one of the good ones. Sai is one of the good ones. Uwe is good, but she tends to be on her own timeline, which is challenging.

Give me the good ones. I'm one of the good ones. Sai is one of the good ones. Uwe is good, but she tends to be on her own timeline, which is challenging.

Give me the good ones. I'm one of the good ones. Sai is one of the good ones. Uwe is good, but she tends to be on her own timeline, which is challenging.

Yeah, Jessel also, I think, is kind of like on her own timeline. But I think they, generally, I think they like all, I mean, I think Jenna's pretty easy to work with. Raquel, I know they loved. I know they loved Brynn, but I heard that it was challenging sometimes. I don't know. I think you can kind of watch the show and make decisions that way on who is easy and who is not.

Yeah, Jessel also, I think, is kind of like on her own timeline. But I think they, generally, I think they like all, I mean, I think Jenna's pretty easy to work with. Raquel, I know they loved. I know they loved Brynn, but I heard that it was challenging sometimes. I don't know. I think you can kind of watch the show and make decisions that way on who is easy and who is not.

Yeah, Jessel also, I think, is kind of like on her own timeline. But I think they, generally, I think they like all, I mean, I think Jenna's pretty easy to work with. Raquel, I know they loved. I know they loved Brynn, but I heard that it was challenging sometimes. I don't know. I think you can kind of watch the show and make decisions that way on who is easy and who is not.

But I will say about Beverly Hills, I like hung out with Garcelle many times and she's really that's so true because she is such an awesome person and like just fun to be around and easy to talk to. And I can only imagine that that was a big loss for them because she's awesome. And I think she adds a lot to the show.

But I will say about Beverly Hills, I like hung out with Garcelle many times and she's really that's so true because she is such an awesome person and like just fun to be around and easy to talk to. And I can only imagine that that was a big loss for them because she's awesome. And I think she adds a lot to the show.

But I will say about Beverly Hills, I like hung out with Garcelle many times and she's really that's so true because she is such an awesome person and like just fun to be around and easy to talk to. And I can only imagine that that was a big loss for them because she's awesome. And I think she adds a lot to the show.

Really?

Really?

Really?

I'm not going to say anything about Dorit because we had a weird thing at BravoCon and now we're like, we DM and I would love to support another Israeli on Bravo. That's very uncommon.

I'm not going to say anything about Dorit because we had a weird thing at BravoCon and now we're like, we DM and I would love to support another Israeli on Bravo. That's very uncommon.

I'm not going to say anything about Dorit because we had a weird thing at BravoCon and now we're like, we DM and I would love to support another Israeli on Bravo. That's very uncommon.

We didn't get into a fight. She and I had been on these Zooms We were part of this subgroup on Bravo. We had been on some of these Zooms and we were talking and we knew each other. And we were backstage about to go on for photo ops at BravoCon with fans. And she was there with Kyle and I was excited to see her because we had known each other on Zoom. I'm just a friendly person. I'm a hugger.

We didn't get into a fight. She and I had been on these Zooms We were part of this subgroup on Bravo. We had been on some of these Zooms and we were talking and we knew each other. And we were backstage about to go on for photo ops at BravoCon with fans. And she was there with Kyle and I was excited to see her because we had known each other on Zoom. I'm just a friendly person. I'm a hugger.

We didn't get into a fight. She and I had been on these Zooms We were part of this subgroup on Bravo. We had been on some of these Zooms and we were talking and we knew each other. And we were backstage about to go on for photo ops at BravoCon with fans. And she was there with Kyle and I was excited to see her because we had known each other on Zoom. I'm just a friendly person. I'm a hugger.

I love chatting with people. I'm social. So I was like, hi, how are you? Blah, blah, blah. I was met with so much

I love chatting with people. I'm social. So I was like, hi, how are you? Blah, blah, blah. I was met with so much

I love chatting with people. I'm social. So I was like, hi, how are you? Blah, blah, blah. I was met with so much

such a cold like i don't know demeanor that i was taken aback that being said she's said since then that she was worried about going on stage it was like right after the robbery so water under the bridge she's been very sweet since um i just haven't hung out like i've hung out with a lot of the uh beverly hills ladies like tons of them we've gone to dinner we're friends and they're all so awesome i've just never hung out so i don't really know you're also very close with lindsey hubbard do you think she would join roni

such a cold like i don't know demeanor that i was taken aback that being said she's said since then that she was worried about going on stage it was like right after the robbery so water under the bridge she's been very sweet since um i just haven't hung out like i've hung out with a lot of the uh beverly hills ladies like tons of them we've gone to dinner we're friends and they're all so awesome i've just never hung out so i don't really know you're also very close with lindsey hubbard do you think she would join roni

such a cold like i don't know demeanor that i was taken aback that being said she's said since then that she was worried about going on stage it was like right after the robbery so water under the bridge she's been very sweet since um i just haven't hung out like i've hung out with a lot of the uh beverly hills ladies like tons of them we've gone to dinner we're friends and they're all so awesome i've just never hung out so i don't really know you're also very close with lindsey hubbard do you think she would join roni

Oh, I don't know. I just don't know. I love Lindsay. I'm so happy for her. Her life is totally different now.

Oh, I don't know. I just don't know. I love Lindsay. I'm so happy for her. Her life is totally different now.

Oh, I don't know. I just don't know. I love Lindsay. I'm so happy for her. Her life is totally different now.

Have you spoken with Lindsay about it? I think she's open. I don't know what will come of it.

Have you spoken with Lindsay about it? I think she's open. I don't know what will come of it.

Have you spoken with Lindsay about it? I think she's open. I don't know what will come of it.

I mean, we talk all the time. We talk, you know, we talk. I mean, you're not a producer.

I mean, we talk all the time. We talk, you know, we talk. I mean, you're not a producer.

I mean, we talk all the time. We talk, you know, we talk. I mean, you're not a producer.

I don't know. I don't know if they think that would fit or not. I have no clue. The network doesn't tell us anything. Do I think she would fit? I think she'd be fun. I actually do. I think it'd be really interesting to see her come from a Bravo show into our show. I mean, what a different world.

I don't know. I don't know if they think that would fit or not. I have no clue. The network doesn't tell us anything. Do I think she would fit? I think she'd be fun. I actually do. I think it'd be really interesting to see her come from a Bravo show into our show. I mean, what a different world.

I don't know. I don't know if they think that would fit or not. I have no clue. The network doesn't tell us anything. Do I think she would fit? I think she'd be fun. I actually do. I think it'd be really interesting to see her come from a Bravo show into our show. I mean, what a different world.

Listen, I am in my, I don't know if this happened to you guys, but I am in my era of like, I just want to party and have fun. I mean, I've been pregnant four fucking times. I'm 37 years old. I'm not 100. I want to have so much fun. I'm like, you know, I'm two weeks out, so I need to wait a little bit. But I am like ready to party. How old were you when you had your first?

Listen, I am in my, I don't know if this happened to you guys, but I am in my era of like, I just want to party and have fun. I mean, I've been pregnant four fucking times. I'm 37 years old. I'm not 100. I want to have so much fun. I'm like, you know, I'm two weeks out, so I need to wait a little bit. But I am like ready to party. How old were you when you had your first?

Listen, I am in my, I don't know if this happened to you guys, but I am in my era of like, I just want to party and have fun. I mean, I've been pregnant four fucking times. I'm 37 years old. I'm not 100. I want to have so much fun. I'm like, you know, I'm two weeks out, so I need to wait a little bit. But I am like ready to party. How old were you when you had your first?

I got pregnant, I was 27 or 28, which is young. But you see for us, and this is something we talk about on our podcast, we didn't change our lives. Like that wasn't, we continued to party. We continued to be young people. We continued to work. We continued to do all the things we were doing before. We just decided to have a kid and kind of spontaneously, you know.

I got pregnant, I was 27 or 28, which is young. But you see for us, and this is something we talk about on our podcast, we didn't change our lives. Like that wasn't, we continued to party. We continued to be young people. We continued to work. We continued to do all the things we were doing before. We just decided to have a kid and kind of spontaneously, you know.

I got pregnant, I was 27 or 28, which is young. But you see for us, and this is something we talk about on our podcast, we didn't change our lives. Like that wasn't, we continued to party. We continued to be young people. We continued to work. We continued to do all the things we were doing before. We just decided to have a kid and kind of spontaneously, you know.

But at this point, like I just want to have fun. So I'm very excited about the prospect of having someone that's my age. that still has that in them, that wants to have fun with me, maybe have a couple drinks, which I think we were lacking, and just kind of be a little loose.

But at this point, like I just want to have fun. So I'm very excited about the prospect of having someone that's my age. that still has that in them, that wants to have fun with me, maybe have a couple drinks, which I think we were lacking, and just kind of be a little loose.

But at this point, like I just want to have fun. So I'm very excited about the prospect of having someone that's my age. that still has that in them, that wants to have fun with me, maybe have a couple drinks, which I think we were lacking, and just kind of be a little loose.

Yeah, I like her directness. I will not lie. I do like it a lot. And she's fun, which I also think is great.

Yeah, I like her directness. I will not lie. I do like it a lot. And she's fun, which I also think is great.

Yeah, I like her directness. I will not lie. I do like it a lot. And she's fun, which I also think is great.

I think we're going on a double date, Abe, FYI.

I think we're going on a double date, Abe, FYI.

I think we're going on a double date, Abe, FYI.

So, yeah.

So, yeah.

So, yeah.

Yeah, he has no idea what's happening any day of the week.

Yeah, he has no idea what's happening any day of the week.

Yeah, he has no idea what's happening any day of the week.

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We would have rubbed shoulders together.

It would have been wonderful.

Jenna is now – meanwhile, Jenna's checking into the Sky Club at JFK, the business class club.

I also, for the record, I also would have rubbed shoulders with Zeus and Hera if I was in original Greece.

Talk about a cackling hag.

And it's like, by the way, also a perfectly fine room.

So now the women are sitting by the pool and Uba's like, I would come here with a donkey.

And Brynn goes, I don't get it.

finally someone says it and then erin goes oh by the way because i don't think we even get clarification on what it means but erin goes it goes by the way i think she just meant like wow this was place this place is so beautiful i could be here with anybody like i'd even bring a donkey here to hang out with that's how i took it hold on guys so like

And she's like, I just want to be able to put on a sundress.

Do we know when Jenna's getting here?

Because I would like to know because I don't want her to hear me saying anything.

But I went to her house and she like had that dental surgery, you know, because she's like a freak of nature.

So I made her a soup.

Yeah, because I'm like a good friend.

Look, as evidenced by this entire monologue.

So I came over with my good friend, Soup, and we started talking about the trip.

I just want to have a little glow.

And she told me she was flying down two days early to tan because of her genetic disorder.

And she feels uncomfortable.

Uh-huh, wait for it.

And then she was like, the truth is, I'm not flying down with you guys because I don't fly coach.

I don't want to be the one that's wearing a burka at the beach.

Yeah, she said that.

Which, by the way, that's a lie.

She didn't say, I don't fly coach.

She said, I don't want to fly coach.

Why am I even explaining myself?

It's fine.

Who cares?

I'm old and six feet tall.

Whatever.

Whatever.

Well, also, you frame the story with this whole thing of, like, I went over to bring her soup because she just had surgery.

So you're framing it like, look at what a good friend I am.

Now look at what sort of friend I am because I'm going to throw her under the bus big time over something stupid.

It was butternut squash.

So Erin's like, I don't feel bad for telling them.

She didn't say don't tell anyone.

She just doesn't know how to be in a group of girls.

And to be open and honest, Kyle Richards, she would do so much better if she'd just say, hey, I'm not flying coach with you bitches.

I'm like, she doesn't know how to be in a group of girls, so you're going to show her why she might not want to be in a group of girls maybe?

I mean, how is this teaching her?

But also, like, if you know she doesn't know how to be in a group of girls and you're, you know, pretending to be a good friend to her, why aren't you saying, hey –

If I were you, I would text everyone and just be and say this to be open.

Otherwise, people are going to feel some sort of way.

But instead, she just lets her fall into her own trap.

And in fact, she pushes her.

She doesn't even fall in.

She actually creates the trap and pushes her into it instead of an act like, oh, well, she just doesn't know how to be with a group of girls.

So Brynn says, it's a girl's trip.

Part of it is traveling together and staying together.

And I feel like sometimes Jenna just doesn't have the one-on-ones on the girlfriend handbook.

I think this boils down to exactly what you said before, which is that they feel like Jenna gets to have different rules with filming.

It has nothing to do with girlship or whatever.

And again, don't say this whole thing of she doesn't have the one-on-one of being the girlfriend handbook if you guys are unwilling to help her.

She already did share that she doesn't really understand these things.

Well, Brynn has had an issue with Jenna.

Brynn has been... She definitely has had a bone to pick with Jenna all season long.

She definitely has an issue with, I think, the fact that she feels like Jenna gets special privileges.

I think there's probably a jealousy issue there.

Yada, yada, yada.

I'm sorry.

You're right that the fight that started off the season was about Jenna... Not Jenna.

Brynn and Sy being dishonest about their plans and doing something behind everyone else's backs.

And here...

they're mad when they did the same thing so it's you know they're mad at jenna for what they believe is deception but i guess maybe they're mad at the double standard that jenna can do it but they get they get you know burned at a cross they're just trying they're just trying too hard it's just another episode where they're going to try and make something huge out of something insignificant little it's been every episode i think it's a housewives

I know.

So then the kid pees on the floor, and Aaron's like, wow, he's like a dog.

Butternut squash soup day.

So, Sia's like, yeah, she told me she doesn't even tan.

She's going to wear a burqa on the beach.

And Sia tells us, I'm confused.

I just need you to be open and honest.

I was like, oh, here's another one.

They're falling like flies.

That's not a thing.

Dropping like flies.

Dropping like flies.

That's what it is.

So, Jessel tells us,

Maybe the tanning is part of her plan, but I think the real reason is because she doesn't want to fly a coach.

I'm like, way to get with the program, Jaisal.

I think that was literally, literally stated.

And Abe's like, yeah, let's put him in a crate.

She goes, you want to go in a crate?

You want to go in a crate, child?

Okay, get the pants from him and put him in the crate.

So now it's time for food.

And there's a big spread in the kitchen.

So, of course, Sai chimes in and is like, she's like, I would never let Aaron plan this trip because we all know we'd be shipwrecked and starving.

So they're eating.

I'm going down to Anguilla.

And so now Jenna's going to come on over.

And they're all sitting at a table.

And Brynn is like,

There's like part of me that's worried that I'm going to be like, well, I do this like every time when I get like this, like I see her and she does like the baby voice.

And then I'm like, oh, she has that like effect.

She does the baby voice.

I'm like, you are literally the queen of baby voice on Bravo.

Like that's how you came into the season.

And that's what we do every single episode.

Yeah, that's the thing.

Like, I don't understand why everyone's mad.

So then Uba joins, sits down, and she's like, only at Sai's house do you get food.

Where's Jenna?

It's okay.

I've got COVID.

I'm happy to just, like, not talk that much.

Okay, continue.

So Uba's like, she's like, where's Jenna?

And Sai goes, she had to wait for her first class taxi to come.

Like, okay, this, first of all, it's really not a very good burn.

Okay, and I say this as someone who botched, I botched my burns all the time.

But this is real, you're on TV, you can't be botching your burns like this.

Second of all, are you now going to play class warfare with Jenna Lyons when you're out here hawking designer garments that most people can't afford?

And you're going to be like, oh, she's waiting for her first class taxi to come.

Oh, shush.

It's funny.

Usually you use a headache to get out of sex, but Sa uses sex to get out of a headache.

Yeah, literal baby steps.

That's kind of genius.

You know what they call that?

Montessori thinking.

Yeah.

So Jessel is now trying on something.

So now it's the evening.

It's 6.15.

And they're all wondering where Jenna is.

And Brynn's like, I don't care.

And Uba goes, Jenna can suck my dick.

I'm like, why are you guys so upset right now?

And Brynn goes, I want to go rest for a minute.

I'm not going to sit here and wait for her to come in.

on her like with her with guys with like love scene t-shirts carrying her like Cleopatra I'm sick of it everything is a branding opportunity I can't stand it do you want to be friends with me or do you want to want me to post it on Instagram and this oh this is where I think my point came in from before which is them complaining that everything is a branding opportunity when Psy is literally using every trip to take lots of photos for her Instagram

She goes, this is cute, right?

You like this?

I don't even know why I'm asking you, Povit.

You think a piece of pork rind is cute.

And Povit's like, well, I don't even know what that even is.

So Bryn says, don't give me gifts and then go on social media and tell your hundreds of thousands of followers that you gave me a gift.

What are you wearing?

so she doesn't like she feels like um that uh that jenna went and like bragged that she gave all these gifts like she's sort of getting credit like you know so then we see jenna's story as jenna saying this she goes so uh everyone these are like all the things i'm giving this christmas it's not an unboxing it's a boxing and so here's a necklace from a jury that comes from a collab i did and here's something else i did and i'm just gonna give these to my friends

It's a top, Povit!

It's a top!

That is not bragging.

That's just saying like, hey, if people are interested in the sort of things that I think would be good gifts, here's what I'm giving.

Maybe you'd be interested in these things too.

Also, like, she's like, that's a very New York relationship.

I don't think that's a New York relationship.

That's something you find anywhere.

Yeah.

That's not a New York thing.

And now she's going to complain, too.

She complains that, like.

Yeah.

I mean she's essentially saying – I mean she's essentially saying that it's like someone trying to substitute genuine connection with gifts, which I get.

But like to be like this is just what all relationships are like in New York.

It's like –

You may be overstating that a bit.

That may just be the relationships you find yourself in because of the damage in your life, which, you know, that's what happens.

You're dating.

Yeah, exactly.

Meanwhile, like, where is this disdain for Gideon who love-bombed her with a slow 500 miles in front of the Waldorf Astoria and an engagement ring?

Okay?

I'm so worked up over this stupid... These people are making me crazy.

Yeah.

Isn't it punching a gift horse in the mouth or is it looking?

Wow.

By the way, for the record, it would also be terrible to punch the horse.

Don't do things to the gift horse.

Yeah, if anything, you should be saying I'm sorry to the gift horse because you think that the gift horse wants to be with you?

That horse is like, I want to be with my family.

So Jenna's like, I've been in Anguilla for two days.

I'm tanned.

I'm relaxed.

I've had a massage.

I'm wearing my new favorite dress.

It's time for a girl's trip.

I've got this.

So she actually thinks that she's going to walk into like this.

happy female bonding moment when she's about to get savaged.

Or I wouldn't even say she's going to get savaged because this cast doesn't really know how to savage, but their version.

Wow.

So we don't even know your job, Bryn.

What is your job?

Okay, we had to look onto LinkedIn to find out some strange thing about giving Dove essentials to the poor.

Okay?

Like, if you tell us that, we'll talk about open and honest.

Be open and honest with us.

So Jenna walks in.

She's all happy.

And Bryn's just giving her a stank face.

She's like, she's like really angry.

And Jessel, of course, hugs her.

She's like, oh, my wealthy and rich friend.

Hello.

Yeah.

How are you?

Have you ever gone to Vietnam for a banh mi?

That's crazy, right?

Yeah.

She's like, excuse me, you're going to Vietnam.

You know what I was doing?

Looking up a gift horse.

Looking a gift horse in the mouth.

So Aaron goes, wow, for someone who's so self-conscious about showing her skin, I see a lot of it right now.

Well, first of all, so obnoxious.

He goes, I got to go to Vietnam.

Second of all, you know the whole reason was that she wanted a tans.

That way she can show off her skin, which she never gets to.

So this is like a very special thing for her.

And like now you're being catty about it.

It's so obnoxious.

So he's going to be going in about like a month and a half.

He goes, I have this ticket I need to use, so I'm going to go to Vietnam.

So now she pivots.

Changes horses midstream.

She went from one gift horse to another.

So Sai's like, okay, tell us everything.

Why didn't you come with us?

And Uba's like, yeah, we were just talking about you.

Yeah, we were really annoyed you didn't fly with us.

And I heard you didn't even want to fly with us because it was coach.

Jenna's like, who told you that?

Sai goes, Aaron.

Aaron.

Why?

Why on earth?

Are you going to say, are you going to Vietnam because there's some banh mi sandwich that you must eat for your chicken society of New York City?

And so I couldn't go.

And then I had to outfit Michelle Obama for something and then Beyonce after that.

And I'm just going to name lots of famous people and strange excuses until you guys all stop.

Get off my back about this.

Okay, so Shakira, Rihanna, the dad from Succession, and Rockefeller Center.

I was giving some much-needed exposure to the Michael Kors brand.

He's like, um, I'm going because there's a banh mi sandwich that I must eat and I promised my friends in the Street Food Society that I have to eat it.

We had a beautiful ribbon cutting with Michael Kors and Jane Polly.

Yeah, the only thing she did wrong was come up with some half-assed excuse just now to explain why.

tanning situation which she like you said earlier she didn't have to do she could have just said honestly i wanted to come down earlier and i wanted to i didn't want to fly coach and that's that i'm i'm famous so then jenna's that's right and that's her big mistake here her big mistake is to the audience for not just saying i don't owe you guys an explanation i wanted to come early i came early and now i'm here yeah want to fight

Yeah.

So Jenna's like, well, I mean, if I looked like you, I wouldn't come early.

And Brynn's like, oh, don't use that.

That's a cop-out.

She goes, okay, I don't know.

And Uber nods.

And then Brynn is like, Brynn's like, Brynn then decides to load up on some toxic positivity.

She goes, but your skin's beautiful.

You're beautiful.

And you're the one, one of the most fabulous women in the world.

And, um, which by the way, yes, yes to all of that.

But like, I kind of feel like when you're in that position, the last thing you want is someone to be like, oh, I understand you have these insecurities, but like, honestly be quiet.

Yeah.

You're beautiful.

We don't need to hear that.

I mean, I don't think that she's just using it as an excuse.

I think the tanning thing is something... In my mind, I think she was like, oh, you know what?

I want to go down earlier so I can get a tan before them.

And what's the point of getting a tan in a tanning bed if I can get a tan in Anguilla?

I'm going to choose Anguilla.

Oh, and I also get to fly business.

So it all makes sense to me.

I just sort of see Jenna as someone who's just not as self-assured in confrontation.

And so she's sort of like...

starts giving all these excuses because she doesn't want people to feel bad when all she really has to say is, yeah, I came down earlier.

I wanted to, and I could afford to, and that's what I chose to do.

End of story.

I know.

Jenna's like, I'm sure she's looked at every picture.

And I was not expecting to walk into an interrogation about my decision to fly early.

So Aaron's like, well, we just want you to be with us.

And now you're here.

Now that we've raked you over the coals and made you feel like shit,

for your decisions and your genetic disorder, we can have fun.

Although some would say that we already did just have fun by doing that.

Okay.

So now everyone's changing for dinner.

And then Aaron checks in on Jenna.

She's like, you're okay.

After I, you know, made you seem like a total asshole and had all the girls yell at you and, um, made you like the pariah of the group.

You okay now?

I was like, totally.

Fuck off, Aaron.

So Jenna likes her room because she hasn't seen the other rooms yet.

So she's like, oh, this is charming.

And then Jessel tells us, oh, you know when people used to be charming?

It's like a fuck you.

Like, oh, that place is so charming.

Or my husband is so charming.

His decision to fly to Vietnam for a banh mi is so charming.

Our children are so charming.

where they're going to go to a charming school because my charming husband won't pay for a better school than the charming school they're going to wind up in.

Yeah, Jenna's room is like that.

Those bears send their children to Montesquieu schools also, and they never have accidents.

It's their brand to stay without accidents.

We're going to rub shoulders with them.

Some things don't go away.

Aaron's like, oh, I love Brynn.

Thank you.

Actually, I don't love Brynn.

So now they're all doing their makeup for dinner and everything.

And Jenna's in Jessel's room.

And then now she realizes how the rooms are so much nicer than hers.

And Jessel's like, so, my best friend Jenna Lyons, when you arrived, you walked into a weird, tense shitstorm, didn't you?

Wasn't that wild?

Wasn't that crazy?

You can share with me.

I'm your best friend.

I think any place could be a sex destination, to be honest.

I think there's a difference between taking someone's insecurity and then like using it in a negative way.

Maybe you, maybe you felt a little bit of that.

And she's like, I knew, I just, I knew there's just like something going on between Britt and I. And like, I don't even know what's happening.

She just said some really not so nice things.

And like, I don't know what's going on.

It's almost like, it's like, she's like a store, but I don't know which part of Rockefeller Center to put her in.

Well –

I had a friend who's like, I'm going to Australia.

Yeah, I don't know why she's not more pissed at Aaron.

Yeah, I want to do some sex tourism.

I was like, okay, we'll have fun.

By the way, the people who complained the most about like so-and-so didn't tell me anything.

How am I supposed to?

They don't share.

They don't share.

Those are the people.

If you realize that people aren't sharing with you, maybe you should take stock in yourself because there's probably a reason why people are not sharing stuff with you.

So I was like, and then all that led you to coming here on Monday, business class?

Jenna's like, well, I did what I needed to do for myself.

And Jessel goes, so fucking what?

And Jenna goes, it's not because I don't want to be the coach with all of you.

It's just, it isn't.

It's just that like, you know, within her thing of saying it was like a cop out.

I mean, Scottsdale, Arizona, that could be sex tourism.

I'm like, I don't even, I don't even know what that means.

I'm literally too famous to understand that slang at this point.

And I've spent years trying to bend to make other people happy.

And I'm not that place in my life where I can do that.

Either we will talk and find a path or we won't.

I don't know.

I think it's just us.

I think it's just us.

Everyone seems to be really enjoying this show.

Well, by the way, sex tourism, I could be very wrong on this.

My impression is that sex tourism is just like you're going someplace to have sex with people.

Nobody holds a candle to Jamie Kendall.

She's not harsh.

She's Jill Hirsch.

My favorite Murdo, Karen McMurdo.

We love him madly.

It's Kyle Pod Shadley.

I don't know if it necessarily means you are hiring prostitutes and escorts, but I think it's assumed.

Lower age.

Because my friend was not doing that.

My friend just wanted to go to Australia and have sex with hot Australian men.

That was his plan.

But people do that.

People do do that shit.

Why do you think people went into Ocean Gate to look at the Titanic to say, yeah, I spent all this money and I went down underwater to look at the Titanic for five minutes, just that way you can go to a cocktail party and say, I did it.

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So people will 100% say,

Yeah, one time I flew all the way to Vietnam to try this banh mi, and I flew back.

They do it for the cocktail party story.

So I don't think it's that crazy.

I don't think it's smart or wise.

And by the way, I actually do believe that.

I was...

talking more about flying to Banh Mi.

But you know what, though?

If we hear stories that that Banh Mi imploded on itself, then I'll be like, well, Povit, you should have known better.

You could have just gotten one in New York City.

Yeah, that's what you get by eating a square Banh Mi.

Why are you trying to change the shape of what already works?

Yeah.

I did not hear this rumor.

Well, we'll wait and see if that storyline actually emerges, I guess.

Yeah.

I'll tell you what the difference is.

I'm going to Anguilla with people who are more famous than me, who could maybe help me rub shoulders with Tom Cruise.

And you're going for a sandwich across the world.

Stupid.

Here's some home pride, whole wheat bread and some peanut butter and jelly.

Go fuck yourself.

What clothing lines has your sandwich pioneered?

I'd like to.

What first ladies has your sandwich dressed?

I'd like to know that.

Last time I checked, Rockefeller Center was not being revamped by something from Quiznos.

To the left, to the left.

All the banh mis in a box to the left.

It's not a lyric, Bobbitt.

Uber, now everyone's packing.

Uber's packing, and Jessel's packing, and Pavit's watching her, and he's like, well, this is like a whole watermelon thing you've got going on.

Really being on any mode of transportation without you being in it is a vacation to me.

So I'm happy.

Well, I think that this is his escape from me nagging in his ear and our crazy twins and me trying to get a socially inept child into a Montessori school.

He could either be at home refilling the Oreo jar, chasing after wild banshees, and filling out applications for Montessori schools.

Or he could just be on a plane watching a movie about a dog dying and flying it.

Just literally being anywhere.

What was the name of that?

The Art of Speeding, The Art of Driving Cars.

I don't.

She goes, well, yes, I'm going to Anguilla.

No, no, no.

I don't watch any of these fucking movies.

Everyone turns on the fucking The Art of Driving in the Rain or whatever that movie was with the dog.

The Race Car Driver with the Dog.

and Amanda Seyfried, and they all watch it.

I don't know what they're expecting, because they're all crying by the end of it.

I was like, it's a dog movie.

They don't make dog movies where the dogs don't die.

You know what Anguilla is?

I hate to tell you this.

I've never even seen Marley and Me, but I can tell you, they might as well call it Dead Marley and Me, because I know that dog's going to die by the end of that movie.

Am I right?

Am I right?

It's a place where they serve fried chicken, so I thought you might know about it.

And they're all, by the way, definitely not in the Delta Airlines fancy sky club.

They're just standing in front of the walking passageway.

Stupid Fried Chicken Society of America.

They're outside of Nathan's hot dog.

There's like a bazaar where people are selling tchotchkes and stuff.

There's like camels walking by.

Anyway, it's in the Caribbean.

He was already found on Ashley Madison.

Yeah.

So Jenna's... Now we go Anguilla.

Jenna's by the beach.

She's in her bathing suit.

She's just enjoying life.

She's in some very... Well, I guess we find out she's at the Four Seasons.

But she's living in the life of luxury.

And then we go back to the other women.

And Aaron's like, I'm on vacation.

I'm not going to harp on the small stuff.

Or rather, I'm not going to harp on the same small stuff.

I'm going to harp on new small stuff.

So...

Let's resolve the old small stuff.

So basically she's like, I'm fine with Brynn again.

She just decides she's okay with it.

So then they get to the villa, and Uba and Jessel are going to share a room, and Sai's telling us, there's no way I'm sharing a room, okay?

I'm actually quite shocked that Uba agreed to share a room with Jessel, but you know what?