Erin Brockovich
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WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Und ich denke, das ist das, was wir alle verpasst haben hier. Und die Feuerwehr, nicht alle von uns. Ich habe sehr spezifische Gefühle und Opinionen darüber, aber das sollte nicht geschehen. Wir sollten viel mehr vorbereitet sein.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
So I was like that before. I'm a dyslexic. So very early on in my life. I saw things differently. I felt things differently. I learned differently and I was always categorized as special needs. I had a mom and dad that were extremely helpful to me that taught me so many things.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
So, my mom is a journalist and sociology major and was editor-in-chief of the KU Alumni Association.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And then my father is a mechanical engineer and built and ran the pipelines for Citigroup.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Right, and their frustration was my dyslexia, which was my frustration, was school.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Reading? Yeah, well, it's how I put things backwards, which is interesting. So I kind of flip things around, which at the time in a conformed learning environment wasn't acceptable.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Yeah. Well, interestingly enough. Right. That's how I figured out my cases. You have to go back to source.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
I didn't realize that until I stood in Hinkley, California.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
The absence of wildlife. Yeah. A green water, two-headed frogs. I didn't need anyone to tell me, this is a fucked up situation.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And I couldn't help myself because my entire upbringing is about, and my father taught me, your greatest gifts are your land, air, water and family and health.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And that it would be my... Verantwortung, ein guter Steuern der Lande und der Wasser zu sein. Und als ich sah, was in Hinckley passiert ist, und ich hatte meine Dyslexie an Bord, was ich dachte, wäre der Abfall in meinem Leben, es war mein Superkraft.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And if I'd listen to it and observe it and see it and connect with it, it was actually telling and teaching me everything I needed to know.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Wir sind, also du weißt, ich habe, ich weiß nicht, ob ich es dir gesagt habe, ich bin fasziniert. Zuerst einmal, ich bin geboren und geboren in Kansas, also ich liebe Wizard of Oz. Aber ich bin wirklich fasziniert mit L. Frank Baum und warum er das Buch, The Wizard of Oz, geschrieben hat. Es gibt eine unglaubliche, sehr gut studierte politische Allegorie zu The Wizard of Oz und ihrer Bedeutung.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Und Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja, ja. Und wir wissen, dass sie in den Filmen in Kansas geboren ist und von Hause weggegangen ist. Wir sind immer so, ich will von meinen Eltern weggehen. Und als sie weggegangen ist, hast du gesehen, dass sie sich mit dem Snake Oil-Mann getroffen hat, der am Ende der Wizardin war. And there was a tornado. The tornado was a representation of disruption in Washington, D.C.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
So she goes home, gets hit in the head and lands in Oz. She lands on the Munchkins, who are a representation of the mass citizens. And they thought Dorothy was there to rescue them. So they told her to follow the yellow brick road. The yellow brick road is the gold standard. Follow the path of money.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
So back in the day, they were pushing between silver and gold as being the standard. So follow the gold pass standard of money. So off Dorothy goes, she meets the scarecrow, who's a representation of the American farmer, who everyone at that time thought had no brain, because the banks were buying up all the land. I go, that's very interesting. Because you see these same things happening today.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
So off those two go and they meet the Cowardly Lion, who's a representation of L. Frank Baum's best friend, William Brian Jenning, always running for populist, known for his fiery rhetoric, but had no courage. And off they go and they meet the Tin Man, a representation of industry worker who would lose his heart. So, you know the story.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Follow the yellow road. They get put to sleep in the poppy fields. The poppy fields of all things. Which could be a representation of Big Pharma. Big Pharma or media or anything that puts religion maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Wir haben uns verletzt. Und ich kann das sagen, weil es Momente gab, in denen ich es klar hatte. Und die Wicked Witch wächst ihn auf. Die gute Witch wächst ihn auf.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Sie finden den Geist. Und hier ist die Moral der Geschichte, wo ich denke, wir sind gewesen. Vielleicht schliefen wir in den Puppys. Vielleicht waren wir komfortabel. Vielleicht waren wir verletzt. Vielleicht haben wir eine Illusion gekauft. Aber am Ende des Tages sahen sie, dass es keinen Geist gab. Und hier ist die Botschaft. Sie hatten vergessen.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
You have a brain to be your own critical thinker. You have a heart and you have the courage. And we've been in that parallel. And I think we are in that moment again where we are finding that within ourselves. It's my moment where we are posed to become the Jetsons, yet the Flintstones are hanging around and we got to be the gladiator.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Yeah, and you know, through my 30 years on the ground and the work, I can see where the problems are. And if you really back it up to source, I mean, first of all.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
In, I see in my environmental work and I kind of compare it to the Ford Pinto theory. Way back in the day. Remember Ford?
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Can't do that anymore. We need to fix the problem on the up front. And we have every ability to do it.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Of course, and that's a good instinct. We need that. In Hinckley I learned about what I call my three L's. Logic, your common sense. Leverage, the power of a community. And logic, leverage and loyalty. Loyalty is your stick-to-itiveness.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
I don't believe that at all. I don't think we have to adapt or leave here and we certainly don't have to adapt to these fires. We're never going to change the wind. We can talk about climate change. It is what it is. But we're not going to change it. But what we can do is respect it and prepare for it. And there's many things that we can do to prepare us, should there be another fire.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And listen, I do not like politics, but, and I try to stay out of it. But after this Palisade fire, I'm looking right at our legislative people and governor and insurance commissioners in this state who have been in office for almost, what, eight years now?
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And been a part of the ten worst fires this state has seen.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
We should have known better. We can do better, but we haven't been. We're not dealing with our infrastructure. We're not dealing with these matters on the up front. We have ways to become more prepared for these fires. We need to change how we're building. We need to change our infrastructure. We need to bury our lines.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And this has all been on the table for eight years, yet the failure to implement.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Nein, es ist. Okay. Okay. Full transparency at implementation.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
We're not going to have this fixed tomorrow.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
So in the interim, if all those boxes aren't checked off yet, be prepared. And there's many things you can do to begin to be prepared. And I would quickly look at infrastructures in and out California with power lines above ground.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
I would look at the state's obligation with these utilities to clear their brush, to clear their underbrush. All of these critical routine maintenance that's not followed through on and then year after year it just accumulates and you're going to get a windstorm here. It's going to happen. But I'm very concerned we're not addressing our grid and infrastructure failures in this state.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
They don't foresee the future that, hey, I live in a fire zone. Hey, these infrastructures are going to fail. And it's about putting the investment on the up front. And nobody wants to do that. They like to kick the can down the line. They don't want to interrupt.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Correct. Yeah. And I'm really deeply concerned. Gavin Newsom Administration, it's right there on their budget, 24, 25. They cut $100 million out of it. Why would you do that? So I don't always know what they're thinking, but I think they need to reprioritize, especially when you live in a state of California. You know you have wins. You're not going to change it.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
We talked about going back to the days of the Indians.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
So get freaking prepared. And we are more than capable of doing things like that right now. You know, I live out in Agora Hills.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Wir sind sehr glücklich, dass wir nicht immer von Feuer getötet wurden. Und es gibt ein interessantes Phänomen, das ich beobachtet habe und die Leute viel darüber sprechen. Wir haben eine Feuerbrücke rund um die Stadt. Sie sind genannt Goats. Sie essen alles. Und dann gibt es eine Feuerbrücke.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Oh yeah, let them go. Let them live their life out there. I mean, they're wonderful. See, there's so many things that we could be implementing, even in nature, that can make things better.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
I saw the same thing and I bawled for a day. I know. Let's talk about this. Let's look to nature. How did they know where to go?
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Man's ego always thinks we're going to be beat out and be smarter than nature. Instead of trying to do that, I want us to start learning from it. This power of observation you have. What is it they're doing? How is it they know? What is it they can offer? It's the same thing that happened for me in Hinkley. It's the same thing that happened to me in Kansas. It's
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
We want to know why, but we won't accept it is and learn from it.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
I think we had to go through everything we've had to go through to get here today, because I think the bend is ready to break. And here's why. Talking about the Ford Pinto theory. Back in the day, Hinckley settled for three hundred and thirty three million dollars to the to the township. Oder die Stadt. All these antiquated, and infrastructure is part of exactly what we're talking about.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
That is your fix the problem, fix what's wrong on the line. They've been used to, we can pay off the lawsuits, because they got a lot of money. Here's where it's going to flip. So Hinckley settled for $333 million. Now, I've been chasing PG&E up and down the state for 30 years. You know, they did the same thing in Kettleman. Let's talk about the sand.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Genau das gleiche Problem wie Hexavalent Chromium. Und antiquierte Kühltauern. Antiquiert. Antiquiert. Sie laufen in großen... Ja. Ja. Are you sure they're still operating that way, Aaron? That's a very antiquated system.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Well, after the lawsuit, they're now fan-cooled. So they've upgraded the system. Kettleman is exactly what happened in Hinkley, just up in Kettleman City, along the five, following the pipelines.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And then you had the San Bruno explosion. That was antiquated, failed infrastructure.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Where the gas pipelines blew up. And killed people and blew up an entire neighborhood outside of San Francisco.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And then, you know, you follow them up to the Dixie Fire, the Kincaid Fires, the Paradise Fire. Oh my gosh, the idea that there wasn't more deaths coming out of Pacific Palisades. It blows my mind.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Deaths. I mean, they were in a very precarious situation.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Pacific Palisades, these fires were very much paradise in Maui in one. Yeah. And it's so upsetting and it's so frustrating to me because we're not learning and it doesn't have to be this way. So what happened with PG&E... Yeah. And this is my philosophy, my observations from 30 years on the ground, working with attorneys, seeing the lawsuits, being there with the communities.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
It's settled for about 38 billion. If I'm going to look at this company and what they had to pay out, look, Hinckley settled for 333 million. But what we're not adding to that, and the corporation is looking at, a 100-year cleanup. You can easily add another 100 million plus to the 333 million for a 100-year cleanup order, not to mention defense costs.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
So PG&E settled for way more and cost PG&E way more than $333 million. But if I calculate that all the way to the fires at $38 billion, this company is on the brink of paying more out in damages and litigation than the value of the company.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Right. Yeah. What about the whole idea of...
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
These conversations, um, Working with people, and this is where, you know, let me, if you've watched the film Mary Brockovich, you'll know I hate lawyers, I just work for them. It's kind of true, but there will be a time where you need them, because they are going to be there to ensure things like that don't happen.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And this is where state legislation, Gavin Newsom can come in and stop those kind of things from occurring.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Well, that's because we shouldn't even be here having this conversation. So he needs to get in front of this and do it very, very, very, very quickly. So it is conversations like this, being on the ground with these people, having town halls, giving them information, so they don't make a mistake where they cave to these developers coming in really quickly. Listen, I'm going to tell you something.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
These communities are really savvy. Now, you burnt their home to the ground. They are devastated, but they're thankful to be alive. They are critical thinkers. Sie haben Instinkte, sie operieren das. Ich sage dir eine Sache, die ich weiß, für absolut positiv sicher. Alles, was ich in 30 Jahren gelernt habe.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
They use their power of observations. They have a very keen instinct intuition. They will start organizing and working with their neighbors. And I'm going to tell you, they already know what my mom taught me. And that's the power of stick-to-itiveness. They're in this for the long game. And I am... I wish more people could experience this with me in these communities.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
It's a real phenomenon and they are popping up everywhere. Because here's the Wizard of Oz moment. They're figuring out there is no fucking wizard, man. And game on, I'm coming the gladiator. I'm coming in informed. I'm using and relying on intuition and instinct that everyone thinks is a bunch of bullshit and it is not.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Ja, es ist. Und wir werden definitiv da sein, wo wir das Beste haben können, um diese Art von Informationen zu bieten. Und ja, es wird eine Gesetzgebung geben. Und Southern Cal Edison, wiederum, nach deinem Woosley-Feuer und deinem Thomas-Feuer und all diesem Scheiß, wirst du wahrscheinlich wie PG&E sein. Hör auf, das funktioniert nicht für euch. Ja.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Ja. Ja. And she kept pushing through that. And then I came out. And then we joined forces. And then we joined other mothers. Every single time I've been involved. It starts with a mom. Fuck with your kids. Fuck with their home. Those instincts kick in for them. They know it's real. It is real. It's speaking to you. But we're so busy doing other things, you won't stop to listen to it.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
This is where I've learned my head, my heart, my gut. If it's not in alignment, something's off. But they will organize. They will fight. And it's worth it to them. It's a message that I heard from my father. It is your job to be a steward to the land, to the water, to the family, to your health. They know it. And they're popping up everywhere.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And when I get involved in these communities, I turn from that advocate, if you will, Zu ihrem größten Wettbewerber. Sie haben den Ball und du musst sie mitnehmen. Und dann kann ich in eine andere Gemeinschaft kommen und sie den gleichen Prozess sehen.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Well, so in like Altadena, when you have a utility that caused the fire.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
That's my understanding at this point in Altadena.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
But they have to get out there and replace the aged infrastructure. You remember the Paradise Fire.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Well... A hundred year old transmission, transmitter blue. A hundred year old. So where is it? And I think state governors here in California, the PUC, you have an obligation to follow through and oversee are these utilities. Upgrading the infrastructures. Where's the problems on their lines? Are they clearing their brush?
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Are they doing what they need to do to prevent this type of scenario happening again? I'm not sure when they're going to figure it out. I think... Wenn man... Wenn man immer noch... Ich meine, was ist der estimierte Wert dieser Feuer? 160 Billionen Dollar?
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
I giggle about that, but it is a really good way to keep that brush in check. And we're going to have to stay on top of the utilities regarding their infrastructures.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
So here, that's the Wizard of Oz. We are in our awakening. The facade has slipped. The curtain is being pulled back. And I think many of us are realizing, what the fuck? There is no wizard. So really, I'm going to go to what just hit me and I shared it on social media today. We're moving into the Jetsons. We all know it. We're moving into the future.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
No, it doesn't have to be that way. There's many other ways to build, to develop. I've seen some of those newer homes.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
That's a good word, absolutely. There's always this idea, it's one way or no way, my way or the highway.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
That's ridiculous. If we're even going to talk about renewable energies, it's not just one thing. It's going to be a multi-pronged approach. It could be six, seven different avenues. And it's the same thing in rebuilding our homes. And it doesn't have to be those cement blocks. I saw one with some of the new construction, how they do Ja, das geht schon lange. And it's finding that balance.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
No, it's not out of my purview because I see it every day. And I'll keep kind of going back to Hinckley to kind of, I hope, answer the question you're asking. So I feel things. I see things. I know it sounds really weird, but this is who I am. And I think it's because of my dyslexia that this is what I'm connected to.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Ich komme genau dazu, was Sie mich gefragt haben, wenn ich in diese Gemeinschaften komme. Sie fühlen sich unerwartet. Sie schalten die Tür auf mich. Ich kann damit nicht umgehen. Und du musst das respektieren und sie das fühlen lassen. Und was ich tue, ist, ihnen Informationen zu bringen. Das ist es. Gib ihnen einen Moment, um es zu lesen, um es zu schauen.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Weil ich habe 99% der Zeit gelernt, wenn sie es tun, wenn du das Unwahrheit, das sie fühlen, respektierst, And let them feel it. But give them some information. They will eventually in their own time maybe take a look at it. Maybe make that phone call and maybe come out of it. And I've seen it everywhere I've gone.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Ich habe gelernt, dass ich mit ihnen akzeptiere, dass sie da sind. Und wenn du dich ungewiss fühlst, dann nimm mich nicht auf. Wenn wir es einfach mit anderen teilen könnten, dass wir gefährlich sind. In und für sich, das zu erlauben, findest du Empowerment.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Es hat einen Ausgangspunkt. Es ist ein Prozess, aber wir haben uns beigebracht, es ist falsch, vulnerable zu sein. Das bedeutet, du bist schwach. Das bedeutet, ich kann auf dich steigen. Und ich habe gelernt, meine Vulnerabilität war Dyslexie. Und wenn ich das als Superkraft erheben konnte, wurde ich empfohlen. Und jeder muss da auf sich selbst kommen.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Und Gemeinschaften in Verrücktheit, das machen sie oft. Sie werden anfangen, darauf zu schauen. Es ist nichts falsch. Nichts falsch, besonders in dieser Situation, um zu sagen, weil wir gelernt haben, nicht zu sagen, weil es bedeutet, du bist schwach.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
When you can say, I'm scared, I'm fearful, I'm not certain and own that vulnerability, it flips to empowerment quickly.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Again, there's a balance there. And I hear exactly what you're saying. And I've learned, we have been taught and believed that there's this huge umbrella that everything's coming down from the top to us. Flip that. It begins with us and it builds from there. And I always envision and I see it happen in communities. And you are going to see it happen here again.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
You will see the community of Pacific Palisades. You will see the community of Altadena. Believe me, they're going to rise. They will become that gladiator. I know it, I believe it, and I've seen it. But if in every situational disaster we have across this country, if every community did just that, light that up.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
You've answered and start to solve the problems at the source across the entire country. Well, how come, like... So don't think about the bigger picture. Deal with what's in front of you.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Das ist, warum ich Superman geschrieben habe. Das ist, was ich darüber spreche. Verstehe nicht, dass du für diesen Helden suchst. Du bist diese Person. Du musst nicht weiter als diese Person im Schatten schauen. Und vertraue dir selbst. Glaub in dich selbst. Das ist, was du verpasst hast. Du verpasst dich. Weil wir so beschäftigt sind, jemanden zu suchen, um es zu machen. Du kannst es. Ja. Ja. Ja.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
RAM is my acronym for Realization, Accountability, Motivation and Self-Renewal. Realize who you are. Realize your strengths. Realize your weaknesses.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Right, and you have to give them the space to see it for themselves. And they will. But, you know, for me, see you again, everything in my life is looking at nature. It taught me everything. And if you really do, let's talk about the ram for a minute. Their courage. Their strength. Where do they get that from? They know themselves as a ram. They know their terrain.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
I sure think so, but you know what I'm talking about. And how we envision that. But to just realize the strengths that you have. And accept the strengths that you don't have. And it's in that acceptance that you find empowerment.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Yeah, because nobody else is going to come in and do this for you.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And I think about that. And I channel these things in a good way to help. Find my strength. For every moment in my life that I thought I'm a dyslexic, you know, I was judged and labeled, perceived, you're stupid, you need special ed and all of that. I had to turn that inward. And oftentimes we're afraid to do that.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And like I said, I fucked up so many times, it's ridiculous. But I'm like, I'm better when I own it. And then I can work through that. And I just think that there's this massive moment where
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Oh, well... We have to give these people... Nobody's even had a chance to breathe yet. Nobody's had a chance to breathe yet. Literally. We're not even out of this yet. I mean, it's still smoldering. It's a process. And again, going back to Hinckley, that I learned that... We need to respect that of them. And they're going to have to process this in their own time.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
It's overwhelming. And what we can do at this moment is support, listen, And again, it's about respecting the space that they need and not pushing on them. They will figure it out. They really will. But this is an important window here. And I think at this moment it is critically important that... Our leaders of this state give every bit of support to these communities that they need.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And so it's not... See, even this conversation is like, here we go again. It's my way or the highway. It's all or nothing. And we have to kind of change that antiquated process. You just... I think of it so like a computer. So what happens? We all know this fucking computer. And the blue dot that spins around and around and around. What's it doing?
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And it's trying to process 10 billion data sets coming in at once. Well, that's kind of what's happening right now. And so everyone's going to be spinning. Because they're trying to process all that information. If you don't give it that time to do it, what happens? It shuts down. It shuts down.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
You just said it. And that's what I was going to say. We have to let them reboot. Let them reboot. And they will. And they'll come up stronger.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Was war, was war, was war? It's true. And you know, it's counterintuitive, Mark, in a crisis like this, to step out of it. Step out.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Reboot. Really stop and breathe. And take it in what's happened. And through that process they'll begin a slow reboot. And we are so busy, we are so worried about the future, we are so angry about the past that we have completely forgotten to be present.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And as painful as it is to be present in this moment and feel every bit of vulnerability and anger and everything and then step out of it and allow yourself, give yourself permission. And you'll start a reboot. So I feel like we as people.
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Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And we're all going to move very fast. We're going to create this phone. We got to do it right now. It's going to unfold. But the first step, honestly, the way I've learned to help people that's even helped myself. And that's all I want to try to do. Because we're all in this together. What you need to do. step out, reboot, visualize what you need to be. A ram, a gladiator, or whatever.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
But start that process. You won't start the process till we take and step back. You know, Mark, I even wonder where we're at. Do you stop to check, are we breathing?
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
But... I've just seen in too many disasters this process will happen and it will unfold.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
You know, it used to be for me, too, until I just accepted, oh, I come in hot and all kinds of fucking messed up and own it and accept it. And it's just interesting in that phenomenon, you start to accept yourself. You start to find your own self-worth. You start to realize all these things that everybody else labeled you to be is falling away. And you're finding out who you really are.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Ich verstehe nicht halbwegs, warum ich das tue, was ich tue. Es ist ein Anruf. Aber danke Gott. Oh, danke Gott.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And these very interesting moments of that breed of person is within you, but it again, it isn't until those firemen know who they are.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
You know, my mom was a huge influence in my life. She taught me the power of stick-to-itiveness.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Und seine Definition ist ein Wort, eine Präsenz, um in einer bestimmten Art und Weise zu folgen. Verbreitet Persistenz, geboren von Obligation und Stubbornheit. Jeder von uns ist das. Und wenn ich in diesen Moment zurückkehre, bin ich die kleine Engine, die könnte. Ich denke, ich kann, ich kann, ich kann, ich kann, ich kann. Es geht alles darum, wie du dich denkst und beobachtest.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Und meine Mutter hat mir beigebracht, Listen, Aaron. It's everyone else's choice to perceive you as a loser because of your dyslexia. But I want you to remember one thing. That doesn't have to be your choice of how you see and perceive yourself. Right. And we all are insulted every day with tags and labels.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
I spend most of my day, think of a pack of fucking post-it notes sticking all over me of everybody else's idea of who I am.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Well, fuck you and fuck this and fuck that. Can I say that, you know?
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
You need to feel the hurt. And to find that empathy. And then we can move on.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Wir sind, und wir sind so furchtbar vor Verletzungen. Und wir sind so furchtbar vor dieser Vulnerabilität. Oder vor dem Bulldozen. Aber du, die diese Angst und Vulnerabilität besitzt, und wenn du sie besitzt, wirst du in Empfang kommen.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Ich auch. Und ich denke, wir sind hier. Ich denke, wir sind hier. Und ich habe geschrieben, Superman kommt nicht in 2020, weil ich nicht herausgefunden habe, was ein Weg ist, um sie wirklich helfen zu können. Sie wissen, Verbrechen werden immer passieren. Das ist nicht immer die Antwort. Du gibst nicht alles zurück zu ihnen, nur weil...
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
It is everything that we've been talking about and is creating your own Superman. And it begins with you and it begins at a local level. And we cannot continue to think or assume somebody else is coming in to save us.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
No. And you know what? It's a hard... It's horrible. It's horrible, because we've been taught to believe that.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
We're here. And we're ready to be here for as shitty as the things that we're seeing happening. We're here.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And I see, we evolve. We're a species. We're a planet.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
And we either find that within ourselves. Or we get left behind.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Oh, well, thank you for having me. You know, earlier we just started talking. I thought we were just chatting and then I realized I'm like, oh my gosh. It's happening. It's happening. That was very, very good of you, Mark. So, and I'm going to look back and go, oh my God, what did I say? I've had 30 years of experience doing this with communities and everything that you and I talked about.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
I have put into practice. I have seen it work. I've seen how we can change, how we can transform. And I believe that at the very core of who I am. And that every one of us is that. And we can find it.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Oh, absolut. Ich weiß, was nicht zu essen ist. Aber wenn du Situationen wie diese hast, realisiert jeder, was er weiß, die Lungen.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Ja, das ist, weshalb ich den Med-Roll-Dose-Pack gestartet habe.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Ja, es macht meinen Gesicht so, als würde ich...
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
No, well, we always can be. I live out in Agora Hills. So I was evacuated, gone, the Woosley fires. So this whole area, you know, we're a fire zone. Yeah, I know. So Bell Canyon caught fire, they were calling it the Kenneth fire. And we got a mandatory evacuation for 10 million, which ended up being a... For how many? Ja, okay. Wie viel Panik war da? War da eine Furie?
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Ich lebe in Agorahills und Camarillo ist... 19 Meilen von mir. Es hat mich drei Stunden gedauert, um da zu kommen. Oh mein Gott.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1612 - Erin Brockovich
Hast du Hunde? Oh, ich bin bereit. Also ich bin alles über mein PIRP, was Plan, Implementieren, Realismus und Bereiten ist.