Erez Zukerman

Stack them. Yeah. They're separated with layers of fabric there. And it's a soft case on purpose. So you can kind of squish it in as you need to take it and go small.

Stack them. Yeah. They're separated with layers of fabric there. And it's a soft case on purpose. So you can kind of squish it in as you need to take it and go small.

No, not, not more, sometimes less of a problem than skill typists. Because when you are a skill typist, you have some unlearning to do. It's jarring. Like I often say, you know, like the immediate effect of putting one of our keyboards on your desk, it's basically like you got a brain injury. Because a moment ago you could type just fine. Now you got this thing you have no idea how to type.

No, not, not more, sometimes less of a problem than skill typists. Because when you are a skill typist, you have some unlearning to do. It's jarring. Like I often say, you know, like the immediate effect of putting one of our keyboards on your desk, it's basically like you got a brain injury. Because a moment ago you could type just fine. Now you got this thing you have no idea how to type.

You lost the ability to type, right? And... And that's something you need to take into account. There is definitely a learning curve. You got to know this if you're getting one of these keyboards. And if you are used to 100, 120 words per minute, it's going to take you- Slow you down. Yeah, it's going to slow you down. It's going to slow you down for a while.

You lost the ability to type, right? And... And that's something you need to take into account. There is definitely a learning curve. You got to know this if you're getting one of these keyboards. And if you are used to 100, 120 words per minute, it's going to take you- Slow you down. Yeah, it's going to slow you down. It's going to slow you down for a while.

It takes people three weeks to recover, to go back up and sometimes beyond their previous speed. But it's going to take you time. Versus if you are a hunt and peck type of user,

It takes people three weeks to recover, to go back up and sometimes beyond their previous speed. But it's going to take you time. Versus if you are a hunt and peck type of user,

you don't have that unlearning you can just start from you know from getting faster right the learning curve you will have there or you may have there depends more on your background if you are a non-technical user we do have non-technical users we have you know all sorts of lawyers and teachers and many people who are not necessarily programmers.

you don't have that unlearning you can just start from you know from getting faster right the learning curve you will have there or you may have there depends more on your background if you are a non-technical user we do have non-technical users we have you know all sorts of lawyers and teachers and many people who are not necessarily programmers.

Obviously, if you're a lawyer, it doesn't mean you're non-technical, but I'm saying people who are not coders. So there is sometimes a learning curve, not so much around the physical act of typing, but more around getting your head around, wow, What can I do with this thing? Like all of the options, it's so wide open to customization and to change.

Obviously, if you're a lawyer, it doesn't mean you're non-technical, but I'm saying people who are not coders. So there is sometimes a learning curve, not so much around the physical act of typing, but more around getting your head around, wow, What can I do with this thing? Like all of the options, it's so wide open to customization and to change.

That takes a little bit of getting used to and experimenting.

That takes a little bit of getting used to and experimenting.

Yeah, exactly. We have one of these for each of our keyboards and you just print it out at 100%. It even comes with a little ruler so you can put a real ruler next to it and verify you got it right. And then, yeah, you just place it down and figure out, okay, where is this going to go in my space? Does this even feel good?

Yeah, exactly. We have one of these for each of our keyboards and you just print it out at 100%. It even comes with a little ruler so you can put a real ruler next to it and verify you got it right. And then, yeah, you just place it down and figure out, okay, where is this going to go in my space? Does this even feel good?

For the foreseeable future, you know, for as long as, you know, nothing in the pipeline, wireless.

For the foreseeable future, you know, for as long as, you know, nothing in the pipeline, wireless.

Yeah, I have many feelings about wireless stuff. I have many emotions. It's not actually latency. I don't think that's the thing for us because we are not particularly low latency. I mean, we're not targeting that. We're not for gamers. For me, I really want to make a keyboard that people can use in 15, 20, 25 years to have a reasonable expectation of being able to use this thing.

Yeah, I have many feelings about wireless stuff. I have many emotions. It's not actually latency. I don't think that's the thing for us because we are not particularly low latency. I mean, we're not targeting that. We're not for gamers. For me, I really want to make a keyboard that people can use in 15, 20, 25 years to have a reasonable expectation of being able to use this thing.