Emma Jo Morris
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Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
This is all confidential. I just can't get into it.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
the worst thing. Well, from my perspective, there's maybe two worst things, which is the pace of the deportations. I don't see how it's humanly possible to get to the reparation that we need from the last four years at the pace that we're at right now. I don't think DHS is either able to get the capacity or taking it seriously enough on the leadership level to actually
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
be where Trump promised he would be and surely where he wants to be. And then maybe the second thing is obviously the situation with China doesn't seem to be, at least right now, going in the right direction and at the pace that Trump wants. I'm not sure if that is due to the order that the tariffs were implemented in or the the level of communication between the U.S.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
government and the Chinese government, but there seems to be an issue that is impossible to get past.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
We're not getting the outcome that we want, which is a fair arrangement.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
Well, I'm not saying that I think that there should be a result in 100 days, but it seems like China isn't reacting the way I think that the Trump administration anticipated they would right now.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
I can't tell the future. I just think it's off track. It seems like the Trump administration expected them to kind of come to the table and look to make a deal immediately, and instead they put their back up.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
Right. So it's funny because as the conversation was just going on just now, I was thinking and thinking, you know, there's two angles to see the same thing. The first one is kind of what I said and really what you're saying too. The second is you have to kind of maybe take a step back, which is kind of what you're doing and say, okay, first of all, despite the pace of deportations, that's one
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
detail of the immigration policy. But more broadly, what's going on, there is not a soul crossing the border right now. Not only is that the case, but people are actually escorting themselves out because they would rather leave on their terms than on DHS's terms.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
At least like in terms of the psychology around the board, that's pretty much the perception, right? So that's another take, which is that. And then also on trade too, it's like, okay, in the snapshot that we're looking at, which is a very small snapshot, there's hurdles right now. However, if you, again, look at it more broadly,
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
Trump for the first time, I think in what, like 20 years, 30 years is trying to rearrange the global trade arrangement and the global economy and the direction of markets. It's, it's, like this profound proposition and a profound change that we, I don't think, have fully digested yet.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
So to your point, it's like these things, what he's doing actually is so big that it's really difficult to analyze it like from the first 100 days. He's thinking in much grander terms than even one term. I think he's thinking in terms of the next generation of at least. So, yeah, I mean, I agree with you. We're not talking about a bill.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
We're talking about actually a philosophical shift in the way the country thinks.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
I just, just one thing on this, on the speed that he's moving at, because I think that that's actually a really important, important point. And there's so much, I think, to that. But I think that one of the main things to that, the reason for it, is Trump learned in his first term that there is opposition to his agenda in the House.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
And not only in the media, on Wall Street, in corporate America, internationally, there is so much opposition in every area.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
In every inch of what he's trying to do and every inch of his surroundings that I think for him this is also sort of like a war tactic like and He sees this as a way if you like this was something that was obvious the first He was moving just way too fast Too fast for anybody to kind of get their bearings on what he was doing and mount any sort of opposition to him He's trying to outpace
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
anyone undermining what he's trying to do.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
I have four.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
Ah, Besant, obviously.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
Yeah, sanity reigned is the right word. Really the right word. You read my mind for not going because this is my first time at the White House Correspondence Center, despite having spent like 10 years.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
Yeah.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
Oh, I can't imagine how fun it was.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
So it was my first time. And don't get me wrong. Obviously, I don't live like in a hole like I live in New York. And I've spent time with members of mainstream media, despite having spent my career in conservative media and alternative media. But this is my first time, I guess, hanging out with everybody in one room and mingling with people who I typically would never have a relationship with.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
And my impression was, well, first of all, it was fascinating. It was super fascinating. But I left thinking that they are not political. It informed me a lot about their coverage, meeting the people who actually create the content. And I left thinking they are not political. The bias that they exhibit in their work is not political. It's that they're literally insane. I think that they're insane.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
Yeah.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
I know that's funny, but I'm serious.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
Yeah, 100%.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
I'm curious. Let me elaborate. I know that that's a very... It's provocative, dude.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
But I think if you were there, you would totally not find it provocative. And let me explain. For instance, Zeke Miller accepts an award. Well, I mean, that's just one example. The whole thing was this weird kind of venerating of themselves and this weird self-aggrandizement ceremony. And...
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
They they were talking about themselves like like I just I realized that the ego does not get separated from truth itself. It was this really weird thing where, you know, like, yeah, Zeke Miller started talking about a Mark Twain quote where like the light is spread by the sun and the AP light. It was almost like mystical, mythical.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
You know, Eugene Daniels in his final speech, which is almost like this fire and brimstone vibe, is talking about how we are an example of American exceptionalism and we are essential to democracy. This is literally like This is a guy who just types on his laptop for a living. He has an MSNBC show.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
They were talking about themselves almost like they were either spiritual leaders or also people who had experienced physical combat.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
We're defending free speech, right?
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
Someone needed to crack a joke. It was really heavy.
Next Up with Mark Halperin
What Gets Ignored By the Partisans, Plus Sen. Ted Cruz on Two Different Tariff Paths Ahead for Trump
Or a cult ceremony.