Emma Grede

And there were 12 times the size of our business. So, you know, it worked for him. They're big. They're a big one. Don't say anything more, Stephen. People will work it out.

And there were 12 times the size of our business. So, you know, it worked for him. They're big. They're a big one. Don't say anything more, Stephen. People will work it out.

I'm not joking. There's a lot of companies out there that do a good job copying everybody else.

I'm not joking. There's a lot of companies out there that do a good job copying everybody else.

I'm sure people have. You know, I don't know how fun it is to run a company like that.

I'm sure people have. You know, I don't know how fun it is to run a company like that.

Yes, indeed.

Yes, indeed.

Yes. Now I'm, you know, I'm in business with Jens. So we started our relationship as I was an employee and then he was my investor. So he and his business partner invested alongside somebody else that I bought in, in my first company. Then I married him. Then we had four kids together and it has been an unbelievable relationship. And one of the kind of

Yes. Now I'm, you know, I'm in business with Jens. So we started our relationship as I was an employee and then he was my investor. So he and his business partner invested alongside somebody else that I bought in, in my first company. Then I married him. Then we had four kids together and it has been an unbelievable relationship. And one of the kind of

most important things in my life and still remains one of the most important things in my life. But it hasn't always been easy because he is obviously, you know, doing his thing and he's very ambitious and he has his own things going on. And when you bring kids into the equation, everything changes again, right? It shifts a little bit. I think what is important is to have somebody who just sees

most important things in my life and still remains one of the most important things in my life. But it hasn't always been easy because he is obviously, you know, doing his thing and he's very ambitious and he has his own things going on. And when you bring kids into the equation, everything changes again, right? It shifts a little bit. I think what is important is to have somebody who just sees

all of your talent and sometimes seize it before you do yourself. And I think that Jens has been like unbelievably encouraging of me at every turn. Every time I've had any doubt, every time I've been like, God, that feels like a little bit outside of my comfort zone. And he's been like, but you did this. but you did that, you know, and I'm like, oh, yeah, I did, didn't I?

all of your talent and sometimes seize it before you do yourself. And I think that Jens has been like unbelievably encouraging of me at every turn. Every time I've had any doubt, every time I've been like, God, that feels like a little bit outside of my comfort zone. And he's been like, but you did this. but you did that, you know, and I'm like, oh, yeah, I did, didn't I?

And he's like, go for it.

And he's like, go for it.

I say this all the time. Everything starts with yourself and you have to be willing to put what it is that you care about, what it is that you want more than anything first. You have to be able to do that first.

I say this all the time. Everything starts with yourself and you have to be willing to put what it is that you care about, what it is that you want more than anything first. You have to be able to do that first.

And if you have somebody who isn't necessarily like a big cheerleader, which not everybody can be for everyone else, that's one thing, but if you've got someone that sucks your energy and your ability to believe in yourself, that's a problem.

And if you have somebody who isn't necessarily like a big cheerleader, which not everybody can be for everyone else, that's one thing, but if you've got someone that sucks your energy and your ability to believe in yourself, that's a problem.