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Eleanor Mak

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Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

143.705

Jillian is now five, Jilly Jillian.

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

151.853

Every lead led to the same thing, which is they've closed. They no longer create dolls.

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

165.302

Doll manufacturing is a heavily manual process. The rooting of every doll's hair is done manually. Wow. They would weigh the hair, right, to make sure there's consistency, and someone would freeform, like, sew it, putting through the sewing machine until, like, the doll's head was fully rooted. There is tremendous precision required.

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

186.933

You know, someone is manually placing these tiny little doll's head, right? So my doll is 14 inches long. So the head, I'm guessing it's like two to three inches. So someone is manually putting this onto the assembly line, which then they stamp the eyes and the blush.

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

201.647

And even if it's just like one one-hundredth off, that doll is suddenly like, I have some Jilly dolls that look like party Jilly because her eyeliner is like... I save those. Like, I save those. They're special edition. But, like, the eyeliner is just a little bit off on some. It's like, okay, this is not the adorable, like, you know, wholesome.

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

224.018

Jilly, I call her the party Jilly.

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

236.888

How many dolls in this house right now? Three or four hundred. We started out with close to 2,000. So she has a little chef's hat.

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

258.01

My husband texted me. I remember him saying, have you seen the tariffs? And I was like, what are you talking about?

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

275.476

And also after yesterday's... Our doll retails for $68. So that is considered a premium doll already. To think that I would charge, you know, $150 plus for this doll, I just... It was like putting a nail to the coffin of our business.

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

353.959

And that whole process nearly broke us, right? Just really kind of rushing inventory in and starting work with a new factory. And I thought that was going to be the worst of it. So when the tariff announcement came, it was almost like, wow, it just felt debilitating.

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

387.119

Yeah, I think there was a part of, you know, speaking to a lot of founders who are also in like consumer products sourcing from China, Vietnam, I think a lot of us just said, this can't be, right? This won't pass. This is a political move. You know, this won't actually go through. So I think it was disbelief. But there was also a need to start actioning, right?

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

405.795

Calling our factory, calling the freight forwarders, trying to understand what the impact was. And I would say it was just chaos. No one really knew. Right. There was speculation this is what it could look like or if you get it in by this date. But at the end of the day, there was this risk that by the time our imports came in, we would be hit with this 145 percent price increase.

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

44.346

Oh, of course. My first doll was Ada. I took Ada with me everywhere, like to the park, to dim sum. I tried to bring her to school. But I also remember she was beautiful in a way that I felt I never could be. This is Eleanor Mack. She had these beautiful blonde curls. She had big blue eyes. She had that porcelain skin.

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

449.827

Absolutely. So for me, you know, now that I'm walking down memory lane, we were about to sign a purchase order, right? So April, and then that way we'd get the goods in by sort of August, September, right? Right before the holidays to have it arrive into our warehouse. Right. But once we sign that purchase order, that becomes binding.

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

468.907

And then, you know, once it arrives on the port, whatever the prices are, I am responsible for that. So for me, the decision was to not issue that purchase order.

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

500.222

Yeah. So, you know, I think it was pure exhaustion. It was a feeling of like, oh, my gosh, how many more of these like boulders coming downhill can the small business, right? The sort of it's largely me who was full time on the business. And I think just from a mental capacity, I was burnt out.

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

519.725

And to think about, you know, signing that PO, waiting for my shipment to come in and being like holding my breath until it arrived at the port to figure out what the price could look like. It was just, I think, more than I could bear. And I was devastated, right? Because I think for us, you know, it was always about giving more families choices, right?

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

539.04

I think one thing I wanted to share is this doll is meant to be Asian American. And our doll has brought joy to a lot of kids and adults. And it was devastating to think, you know, You know, this could end if I'm forced out of business. But for me, in the short term, we have inventory, we have the silver lining, and I can ride this out for some time, but that inventory also will not last forever.

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

583.921

I can only weather this if the policies change in the next year. And so as an entrepreneur, I think I'm hopeful, I'm optimistic. But I'm also practical when I look at my numbers, right? When I see my inventory, you know, the trends. So, yeah, maybe that's why you're not. It's like part of me is optimistic.

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

606.479

Things will sort itself out before my sort of, you know, self-imposed deadline of when we would need to place a PO comes out.

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

622.864

Yes, because with the current tariffs, there's just, I cannot survive.

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

69.665

And even then, you know, I think I was, you know, somewhere five or six years old, remember thinking, like, I wish I looked like Ada.

Radio Atlantic

The Art of the Doll

98.278

You're not really sure what they're supposed to be. And the only reason I knew some of these dolls were intended to be Asian was because they had a name like Ling, or they were holding panda bears or had a really bad haircut. Right. Like that bowl cut my mom did give me. But as an Asian-American mother, like I don't relate to any of that.