Drew Afualo
Appearances
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
I think that's fucking awesome to be quite, quite honest with you.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Honestly? No. Like when I, when that one first took off, I was a little, I was just kind of overwhelmed because I, like I said, I'm 29. So I grew up on the internet. For the most part, I mean, I remember the era of YouTubers and Vine and all of that. So I had no concept of how to like deal with that because I was so aggressively normal before this happened to me.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
So I had no way of knowing what it was going to turn into literally at all. I just was having a good time. I was having a silly, goofy time. And it looks like everyone else was having a goofy time with me. So it worked out.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
They're like, sell me this pen. You know, they're big, big fans of that. Do it. That one, I think the wearing a backwards hat in the pool is a big hit.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
um and being a big big fan of tom brady like just specifically tom brady not pats or bucks specifically tom brady yeah he's got problems so that was like i think the first time i i made one that was so specifically niche because jokes like that make me laugh and i think that's what resonated with people now you are also a podcast host with two hit shows yes and
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Yes, I do.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
For that name, I forget where the joke came from. But my sister and I, anytime we would do anything remotely silly or just like, oh my God, why would I ever do that? Anytime we would do anything like that, we'd be like, idiot girl. That's what we would just tell each other. I would tell myself that. We would tell each other that. It's to be funny.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
And so we would call each other idiot girls all the time. And so we're like, well, there's two of us. There you go. And then we looked it up. Does anyone else have it? No? Perfect. So we decided it years ago and now we're married to it. It's fine. So it worked out, I think.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Yeah.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Oh, man, that's a great question. Yeah. Yeah. Some of my highlight reels in my head, like once I made one about a guy and I said that he said that he looked like he had the suds. Like I was asked, I said, like, he, he looked like he was being held together by prayer. Um, I, I truly made myself laugh so hard. I started crying, which is not like, that sounds like me.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
That sounds like me jerking myself off. Whatever. I don't give a fuck. This shit was funny. And you know what's funny? I said he looked like the ferryman on the river Styx, which that's a real niche joke. And anyone who knows anything about like Greek gods, they ate that joke up. But that one kind of got lost in the shuffle a little bit.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
But someone in the comments of that video said that he, they said it's giving part of the crew part of the ship, which is like a Pirates of the Caribbean reference. Dog, I laughed so fucking hard. I still think about that to this day. That's one of my faves. Oh, this is a fun topical one. Once I, this dude made, he attacked me for no reason, made like a whole long video, said awful shit about me.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Story as old as time itself. And I kind of just shot in the dark, like just based off what he looks like. That's typically what I do. But I said, he looked like an old lineman at a D3 school who doesn't play. And that's a very funny sports joke. And my audience doesn't always get sports jokes, but some of them do. And that one spun him out. Outstanding. Right. You get that joke. It's hilarious.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
And what's crazy about that joke is that he spun out. He made like 15 videos about me after. He was so angry. But in the video, my fiance ended up looking him up. He really was an O-lineman at a D3 school and had no stats recorded for that year. And I said... I shot in the dark and I hit your bitch ass, didn't I? Yeah. Yeah.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
When I tell you quit playing with me, when I tell you quit playing with me, like I mean that shit. So like I, I really, I shot in the dark completely and I hit him. So that's, that's also one of my best ones. I think there's a whole, I have a whole Rolodex, but like, yeah, those are some of my tops.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
That's what I'm saying.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Wow. Right. I'm telling you. Outstanding. That's why I feel like I've told men before, like... I, the insults they like levy at me are so low hanging fruit. It's always fat and ugly. It's fat and ugly and 50,000 different fonts. Like, it's just like that in a million different ways.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Um, and I've told people before, if you really want to stick, stick it to a man, when you insult him, you got to get up here. You got to get, you got to get real specific, like so deeply specific. Like instead of saying like, Oh, I bet it's small. I always tell people you could say something like you look like you wear a size eight shoe. very specific.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
It's things they care about so deeply. Women care about a lot of things like that too, but women don't typically think of that when they're insulting men. So I was like, don't worry, y'all. Trust me when I say it doesn't sound that mean, but it's going to live up here.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Okay. T let's do it.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Right. Or new. I was like, you logged on to TikTok.com this morning, probably, and barely found me.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Right, yeah.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Right. The arrogance, truly. I wish I... If I could just harness just an ounce of it, I could take over the world. You know what I mean? The arrogance and the confidence.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
I mean, at this point, I feel like in the beginning, it was kind of just if it was getting a lot of attention and it was tagging me a lot, I would do it no matter what. Now, I feel like I've kind of cleaned the streets a little too good. So they do hide from me pretty well now, which doesn't stop people from finding them. Like you said, I always compare myself to Varys in Game of Thrones.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
I got birds everywhere, bitch. And they be singing to me. And I always say like, they'll drop them at my altar, like off an offering. And then I come and I collect. So now I feel like I kind of just choose based off what makes me laugh specifically. So, cause it's always the same shit. Like it's nothing new. It's nothing different.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
It's always like, has anyone ever thought about like, and it's the most basic line of misogynist thinking ever heard in existence. Like the amount of men I've seen in 2024 say shit I've heard before. fucking 20 years ago, let alone two, right? So I started getting kind of bored. So now, unless I have just an absolute banger of a joke, I'll just ignore it.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Like most times I'll, but if I have a absolute banger, I'm like, yeah. Yeah, I'm going to stitch this one. Even though, like, if I got a really good one up here, I'm like, I'm going to fire this one off for sure. And it always does well because I can tell when it's going to do well. But now I think I just pick based off what I want to laugh at.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
And I know my audience will laugh, too, because they have the same humor I do. And they know me well enough by now. But, yeah, that's kind of how I pick now. In the beginning, it was kind of a free-for-all. Now I'm a little more specific. Yeah.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
You tried.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
I think it, I think it just depends. I think, cause I, I do exercise quite a bit of discernment when stitching people. Cause there are some things that I think are truly so awful that they don't deserve to be platformed at all. Like no one should ever have to look.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
It's, it's kind of like discerning between a man who truly thinks he's like God's gift to this earth and someone who's a fucking grifter. Now I think I don't ever worry about it giving them attention cause I don't stitch anything that,
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
unless I truly know like they thought I was never gonna see it or they thought they really were gonna hurt my feelings which is hilarious like like oh yeah you're the guy like believe it believe me you you're not the guy to get me like the one oh don't
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
If it helps, they say that shit about me too. So if it helps, they say that about me too.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Right.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Sometimes men will comment on my videos and they'll say, well, the fuck is this ugly bitch on my timeline? And I say, well, the fact that you commented, I'll see you again. I'll see you in a little bit. I'll see you in a couple scrolls, twin. I'll see you in a little.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Okay? So, like... Also, every podcaster in the history of time is an amateur when they start because there's no podcasting school and there's no license, clearly, because we have the worst men in the world buying microphones and saying things into them that everybody has heard for centuries. Yeah.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Yeah. Everybody's an amateur. Hello.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
I can't even tell you many men who talk shit on me still. Like I have said before, I'm like, I, I will continue to live. Our relationship is symbiotic. Like you will never stop being awful and I'll never stop fucking you up and being successful off of it. So it's kind of a win-win for me.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Yeah, I'm so petite. Look at me. Yeah. Hell yeah.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Right.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
You're mad that you're not my size. Yeah, for real. You're like, you goddamn right. So I would lower my voice if I were you.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
I'm a full grown man, bitch. I would lower your voice if I were you.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Exactly.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Yeah. I mean, I'm happy to hear it. You're a big bitch like me. I'm six feet tall. So like, and I've... I was 5'4 when I was 10. So your dad's big as fuck. My dad's big too. My dad is 6'6. So my dad's 6'6. My mom's 5'3. So my mom is like... My mom's 5'2. There you go. Look at us. Right. And then like my older sister is 5'4 and I'm 6 feet. And then my younger brother is like 6'1, 6'2. So...
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Like it's, I relate so heavily to you saying I've always felt like this was a normal size. Me too. And I knew I was tall when I started going to school, obviously. And like when I really hit my growth spurt because I was 5'4 when I was 10. So it's like fifth grade, sixth grade, I was 5'4. And then when I went into seventh and eighth grade, I grew four inches in like a year.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
So I was 5'8 when I was in eighth grade. And they were like, who's this grown man coming to the middle school? It's me. And I was just, I've always been big as fuck. I've always been a much larger, not just in height, but also just, I'm a thick girl too. Like I've always been a big body Benz, you know? And so when I went to high school, My freshman year of high school, I grew again.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
I was 5'9 when I was 14. And I remember I tore my ACL that year. So I tore everything in my knee. And then I got an MRI and x-rays and all that shit. And I remember my doctor at the time was like, oh, you look like it looks like your growth plates are pretty much closed. Like you shouldn't be growing anymore. And I said, do you fucking promise? Do you promise? Promise me.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Promise me I'm not going to grow anymore. Because I was so sick of being tall at the time. I never cared in middle school. But then when I got to high school, obviously, I'm like, I'm bigger than everyone, including most teachers. Like, I'm like, hello. I'm so huge. And my sister has been 5'4 since the sixth grade. So she's way shorter than me.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
And so I never really cared in terms of friends, but obviously when you're unpacking your internalized misogyny and you're going through puberty and all of that stuff, men being much shorter than me. I remember a couple guys said they wanted to take me to prom when I was a sophomore, but they said I was too tall. I think what helped me was my family. My mom would tell me a lot.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
She's like, you're never going to look like other girls like that, but that's okay. The way you look is not bad. Everybody looks different and everybody is beautiful in their own ways. And I'm like, whatever, mom, you don't get it. But now I feel really grateful for how tall I am. I love being tall. Now I never... don't wear platforms. I wear platforms all the time.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
I think I really kind of unpacked it when I was in college too, when I was like kind of working through my internalized misogyny. And as far as like body neutrality is typically what I like to practice now, which is I want to feel grateful for my body as it is and what it does for me, but I don't want to feel anything about it that's good or bad. I just want to feel gratitude towards it.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
That's what I've been practicing as an adult now because bodies are so temporary. Beauty is fickle. It fades with time and it's so subjective. And I feel like that was a huge catalyst for me unpacking my internalized fat phobia. Like to not be afraid, like afraid fat is not a bad word. Fat is not a denigrating word.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Like sociologically, we've given that word a lot of power and a lot of negativity where fat is nothing more than an adjective. It's a descriptor. It's not neither good nor bad. And I think me kind of making that a pillar in my platform is has really helped my audience understand that when men levy shit like that against you, it doesn't mean anything.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
And so is this wallet. Get into it, bitch.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Same. And I'll do the same.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Yeah. Thank you so much for having me. I do really quickly want to give you your flowers too. I think it's incredible what you're doing. I think your husband is fantastic and a hall of famer. And I think what he's done for the sport has been incredible, but more importantly, having someone like you by his side, I think is incredible.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
It is really hard to be the wife of a football player and let alone raise a family. Trust me. I know. So I want to give you your flowers. I think you're incredible and fantastic. And I think you entering the podcasting space. It can only be good. There's only good things that can come from it. And I think you're wonderful. And I think you keep his ass in line and that's period.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
That's on fucking period. And he's in a house full of women. Yeah. Yeah. I love to hear it.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Girl, I love it. It's, it's truly the best thing ever. And I think, Having someone like you as their mom is incredible. And I think mothers are just superheroes. You have truly conquered death four times, which is crazy. And I think that's incredible. And I think you're amazing and so admirable. And I'm honored to have been on. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Oh my gosh, thank you so much for having me. It's an honor to be a part of the Kelsey universe, period.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
That's me Pavloving everyone. My laugh elicits a laugh, you know. It is perfection.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Yeah. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. That's so sweet. Congratulations, by the way.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Fourth baby.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Period. Get into it. I'm at the helm. I'm at the front. I'll lead from the front.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Right. That's fair. That's easy. I feel like you can start counting backwards whenever you want. Perfect. I did get in under the wire. That's for sure. Because I'm 29. But yeah, it was an honor. It was crazy. I've worked with Forbes a couple times now. So it's really cool and very rewarding. Given what I do and the niche that I have to be... like rewarded and accolade like Forbes 30 under 30.