Drew Afualo
Appearances
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
I think. And I've been doing it well before he went into office the second time, so...
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
Oh, yeah. Yeah. They they have my face on wanted posters and those like maidenless bitch meetings they have where they recite a creed of how much they're going to die alone. They typically go over how much they hate me. They truly dislike me to a level that is concerning, but that's OK because I don't care. Right. Can we go back to what meetings?
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
Oh, I just think that they have meetings for men who get no pussy. I guess that's my point. You know, like AA, but for men that will never have sex with a woman.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
Oh, what have I had it with? I am really tired. Oh, this was one recently that I revisited, but I've really had it with British people getting mad at me that I don't like British food. I'm really sick of them getting pissed off at me. It's objectively terrible. And I think thousands of people can't be wrong. You know what I'm saying? Right. Right. That's my personal philosophy.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
So do you go to London a lot? I've been to London before. And when I was there, I was really excited to try it because I was, I was thinking it was going to be like a Thanksgiving dinner where it's like a lot of things that shouldn't make sense, but do. Um, but turns out they just eat like it's still the cold war. So I hate that personally.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
Right. Yes. Which is all of Europe. And I think they need to fix that. You know, I think they should. I think we're not in the French Revolution. So it's OK if we have central AC.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
Yeah, that's true. But if we don't take care of the environment, then we need to have the air on. In my opinion, if you don't believe in climate change, go and blast that air for me, King. You know what I mean?
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
If you're already planning on burning it down, I'm going to need the AC because then it's going to be 100 degrees 365 days of the year. You know what I mean? And I also think too, I'm a, maybe it's like a genetic thing. Cause I'm a sweaty girl, even though I, I love, love, love the summer. I like prefer heat over cold. I'm still far more a sweater than I am like someone who's cold naturally.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
So it's a selfish thing purely. I'll admit that for sure. I just hate being hot. But I just really don't like that. All of Europe doesn't have, they don't believe in, escalators or elevators very often. And then if they do have elevators, they're like ones that are on pulleys still, which is crazy. And then they don't have central AC either.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
Yeah. And I think people of color have known that for a while. Right. You know what I mean? Like how, how much, how much this country is not the greatest and hasn't been for a very, very long time.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
Yeah, it's shocking. It really is. It's what we've been privy to learning or forced to learn or indoctrinated with, I would say, as opposed to what we've been kept out of the loop on is really upsetting. But I think that's why I tell people a lot of times when I talk about misogyny and bigotry as a whole and how I talk about how most...
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
most, if not all forms of bigotry or prejudice are based in, like they all lead back to the same center point, which is white supremacy, including fat phobia, transphobia, homophobia, misogyny, all of the phobias that you could possibly think of all lead back to the same center point, which is white supremacy.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
Part of instilling white supremacy and indoctrinating people into the idea to believe in, buy into and uphold and continue to uplift white supremacy is the purposeful leaving out of certain information and historical facts. that would give us a different perspective.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
So I tell people all the time, if you really, really, really think about it and you really unpack it for what it is and all of your internalized biases, you can release yourself once you learn anything that you've learned, you can easily unlearn. So I truly talk about that a lot because I think it's important. And I think sometimes
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
Because I make silly jokes on the Internet and tell men to suck my wiener. A lot of times people think I'm stupid and don't know these things, or they think that it's nothing more than jokes. Like they think misogyny is nothing more than jokes. So misogyny is just a fucking joke. I just told a joke and now you're mad at me. But they're not just jokes, are they?
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
They go so much deeper and so much deeper. further than you could possibly imagine. But if you're someone who hasn't unpacked any of that or exposed yourself to it in any way, shape or form, as uncomfortable as it may be, especially as white people, then, of course, you would think that it's nothing more than a joke. Right. But I think that's another reason why people
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
like me have been able to garner a platform is because I've been able to amplify that kind of messaging in a way that's palatable to younger people, especially. I sometimes talk about my platform as like a pill and cheese when you're giving it to your dog. It's like, however you learn the information, if it's through humor, I love that. You know what I mean?
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
But please don't stop with me is what I always tell people. If you really want to learn how to be a better ally, a better activist, um, a better person just in general, because I truly think information makes you a better person overall and learning how to be a better ally in many different ways makes you a better person, then please don't stop with me. Like I am but a dickhead on the internet.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
Totally. And it's oppression more than anything, right? So it's like for me, I'm not someone who handles bigots the way that other people do. Some people want to do it in a way that's like, let me, I want to talk with you. I want to debate with you. I want to exchange ideals. That's not how I roll. How you approach me is how I approach you. That's how I determine respect given.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
And not just if I'm not receiving it, I'm sure as fuck not going to give it. So when I approach bigots, I'm mean as fuck times a million. Whatever they did, I double it and give it to the next person. You know what I'm saying? In my opinion, when speaking to your oppressor, you got to speak in a language they understand.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
A lot of times it's violence, whether that's verbally, physically, spiritually, whatever it may be. And that's the that's the route I choose personally. Now, does everybody have to choose that route? No. You can do whatever makes you feel great, but I'm not going to yuck anyone else's yum.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
So if they want to love on their, on oppressors, they want to love on bigots by all means, do it away from me. Um, if you want to be mean and receive that kind of like treatment where it's like being nice to you or hearing you out or hearing your side, your perspective, I would suggest being mean to people like that and not me. That's not how I handle it. And I've made that very clear.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
It's on you. Speaking of shit I'm tired of, I'm tired of Trump supporters trying to be like, why can't we be friends? You know good and goddamn well why I won't be your fucking friend. You know exactly why I'm not gonna be your goddamn fucking friend. You know why I know why, quit wasting my fucking time. That's how I feel. I don't want friends like that.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
What's crazy to me is people who want to sit on the fence like a fucking coward and say like, well, I don't know. I just think there's bad... People who say shit like that are cowards. Like they're people who are unwilling to pick one side. And to me, you don't deserve my respect, let alone my friendship, if that's how you personally feel. So...
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
I think that's another reason why people like me, because I'm a real black and white kind of bitch when it comes to shit like that. I'm like after the election, I was truly shocked how many women were like, I can't believe that you're you don't like Trump support. What the fuck? Like everything you know about me, like that's great. My entire livelihood is political.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
I have no choice but to live politically. I have no choice. It's been thrust upon me, unfortunately, right? For me. So unfortunately, but fortunately, I guess it depends.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
And I think that people like that, I think think racism or homophobia are, it like stops and starts, like starts and stops with slurs. I think they think that's what it is. They're like, oh, I don't say the slur. So obviously I'm not a racist. Racism is a systemic structure. They're not, they're not words. Just like homophobia is a systemic oppressive structure. It's not words.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
And I think that's where they think the line is drawn. Like they're like, well, I don't say the words. that doesn't mean you're not a racist and that doesn't mean you're not a homophobe. And that's another thing why they think, oh, everything's racist. You're right, it is. You're right, actually. What's crazy is you're right there. You're so close, just go a little bit further.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
That's how I feel about people like that. You're so close, you're right there. Oh my God, you're so close. And that's why I think too, outright bigots who say the slurs, wear the Confederate flags, vote for Trump, the dumbest people alive, at least people like that are honest. They're wearing it for you to see at least at least they're honest.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
That's the only fucking thing I will give them is that you're being honest about who the fuck you are, which is a terrible person. Got it locked away. Right. You're not sitting here trying to debate with me about why you're not a bad person. You just think you're better than everyone, which is shocking to me because your IQ is a double digit. Shocking. Go die alone. Right.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
With other people who sit in that pocket that you were talking about. I've also said this, it kind of parallels what I've said about misogynists too, where I've said there are men who are like fat, ugly bitch. And I'm like, okay, clearly a misogynist, right? Clearly he's marked, it's on his forehead. It's very obvious.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
Men who say things like, I just want to take you out of that masculine era and put you in your feminine era. That guy's also a misogynist, but he's a lot different. He moves a lot differently than the other ones. So he can sneak his way into women's lives a lot easier. A smart misogynist is a lot more dangerous than a stupid one.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
They're all stupid in my opinion, but there are some that are smarter than others. And I think it translates the same to all facets of bigotry. It's like, well, I'm not that bad. So clearly I'm not bad. Wrong.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
I did actually for six weeks. I was very proud of myself. Oh, I am proud. Okay.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
No, I did. I did actually take mine, thankfully. And it was beautiful. It was like the best thing I could have ever done. And I did it around the holidays, too. So it kind of made sense anyways, because I don't really like to post a lot around the holidays. But yeah, it was nice. It was also necessary.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
I will say, too, I think the ones you're talking about, too, are sometimes when people get in trouble. And then they're like, guys, I'm going to take a break. And then they come back after like a day. Right. Yeah.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
There's BYUs all over the place. There's a BYU in Hawaii too. There's BYU in Utah. There's BYU. Yeah. There's multiple BYUs. Um, and I know too, cause a lot of some, when people are Mormon, not a lot, but like quite a few, I know some, I've known some. Um, but yeah, it's shocking to me. It's shocking. I've spent quite a lot of time around Mormon, Mormon kids.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
Like when I was a kid, like as a teen and as a preteen and young teen, I would say I've spent a lot of time around Mormons. Yeah. It's very strange. And those videos, I think we get it. That's kind of my thing. I'm like, yeah, anything sexual, they'd rather kill themselves. Yeah, we know. You know what I'm saying? I don't need to see it anymore. I don't need to see it anymore.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
Yeah, at that point, if anything, it's kinkier. It's actually kinkier than just regular vanilla sex. That's actually a lot kinkier than you would think. So, I mean, that's just a lot of work too. I totally agree.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
Had it. I've had it. If I had a number one, like a number one enemy, it's them. They hate me probably more than anybody on this planet. All gym bros like collectively despise me, which I call a badge of honor personally.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
Yes. Chicken and rice. Yeah. Like they, they, it's, it's funny too. Cause a lot of bigots hate me too. Obviously Jim bros, the Venn diagram of a Jim bro and a bigot is the circle. I think they're my biggest ops because they were the first group that I truly attacked consistently in the beginning of my TikTok career. They're just so easy. They're so easy to make fun of.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
They're so easy to get riled up because their brains are so small. So it's a lot easier to get, I guess, views off them because they're Neanderthals. Quite literally, they are. So it makes my job a lot easier. You know what I mean? So...
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
Had it. Had it. I think we've made that clear. I've had it. Got a lot of work to do here. Right. Lots of work.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
It drives me crazy. I do want to say, though, women like the two of you are extremely essential in times like this. And I say that not to be, like, overt. Like, I don't want to suck your dicks too much. But I do want to say... That women like the two of you are important.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
And the reason being as to says like cis heterosexual white women, your voices are needed in times like this, because as we've talked about, and as I'm sure you've seen, they don't listen to people who look like me. They don't listen to trans people. They don't listen to gay people. They don't listen to black people. They don't listen to immigrants. They don't listen to any of us.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
Like they, it doesn't matter how, you know, how much, how loud we cry, how loud we scream, because at the end of the day, they think they're better than us and they think they're more advanced than us. And so they don't respect us and don't see us as equals. When women like yourselves say the things that you do and hold firm in the beliefs that you do, it matters. It makes a huge difference.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
It's the same. It's the same kind of sentiment that happens when someone like myself defends my friend Dylan Mulvaney, right? As a trans woman, when I defend trans people in general, as a cis woman, it matters. It matters that I say that too.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
It matters that I fight alongside them just the same way that it matters that straight people fight alongside gay people and white women fight alongside minorities. Like, so I just want to give you both your flowers for that. I think that's imperative that women like yourself speak up and continue to reemphasize and reiterate all the same things that marginalized people have been saying for years.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
And it's, It's unfortunate, but it's true that a lot of times it hits their ears differently when it comes from women like you. And so I think it's imperative. And I think the two of you are staunch and steadfast allies. And I think that's a wonderful thing. And I just want to give you your flowers for it. I think it's important. And I'm glad that you both are mothers.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
I'm assuming you're both moms. But I think that's a wonderful thing that you're raising children that can be different and maybe different. establish a new world, like when we're all long gone, you know what I mean? I think that's super important. So I hope so.
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
above everything else and the fact of the matter is they value the supply side jesus the capitalist jesus too they value money more than they do human beings and that's and what's crazy is the way jesus would hate them what's crazy is jesus would hate you girl jesus loved whores and jesus loved lepers and jesus loved everybody you know what i'm saying jesus would hate your ass if jesus came down here he would hate you bitch he would hate you and he would love me i'm ready for the right i
I've Had It
The Stupid Era
We should be a democratic strategist, but I just go on there and bully them. Bye, Drew. Bye, Drew. Bye. Thank you all. I appreciate you.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
I think that's fucking awesome to be quite, quite honest with you.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Honestly? No. Like when I, when that one first took off, I was a little, I was just kind of overwhelmed because I, like I said, I'm 29. So I grew up on the internet. For the most part, I mean, I remember the era of YouTubers and Vine and all of that. So I had no concept of how to like deal with that because I was so aggressively normal before this happened to me.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
So I had no way of knowing what it was going to turn into literally at all. I just was having a good time. I was having a silly, goofy time. And it looks like everyone else was having a goofy time with me. So it worked out.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
They're like, sell me this pen. You know, they're big, big fans of that. Do it. That one, I think the wearing a backwards hat in the pool is a big hit.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
um and being a big big fan of tom brady like just specifically tom brady not pats or bucks specifically tom brady yeah he's got problems so that was like i think the first time i i made one that was so specifically niche because jokes like that make me laugh and i think that's what resonated with people now you are also a podcast host with two hit shows yes and
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Yes, I do.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
For that name, I forget where the joke came from. But my sister and I, anytime we would do anything remotely silly or just like, oh my God, why would I ever do that? Anytime we would do anything like that, we'd be like, idiot girl. That's what we would just tell each other. I would tell myself that. We would tell each other that. It's to be funny.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
And so we would call each other idiot girls all the time. And so we're like, well, there's two of us. There you go. And then we looked it up. Does anyone else have it? No? Perfect. So we decided it years ago and now we're married to it. It's fine. So it worked out, I think.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Yeah.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Oh, man, that's a great question. Yeah. Yeah. Some of my highlight reels in my head, like once I made one about a guy and I said that he said that he looked like he had the suds. Like I was asked, I said, like, he, he looked like he was being held together by prayer. Um, I, I truly made myself laugh so hard. I started crying, which is not like, that sounds like me.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
That sounds like me jerking myself off. Whatever. I don't give a fuck. This shit was funny. And you know what's funny? I said he looked like the ferryman on the river Styx, which that's a real niche joke. And anyone who knows anything about like Greek gods, they ate that joke up. But that one kind of got lost in the shuffle a little bit.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
But someone in the comments of that video said that he, they said it's giving part of the crew part of the ship, which is like a Pirates of the Caribbean reference. Dog, I laughed so fucking hard. I still think about that to this day. That's one of my faves. Oh, this is a fun topical one. Once I, this dude made, he attacked me for no reason, made like a whole long video, said awful shit about me.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Story as old as time itself. And I kind of just shot in the dark, like just based off what he looks like. That's typically what I do. But I said, he looked like an old lineman at a D3 school who doesn't play. And that's a very funny sports joke. And my audience doesn't always get sports jokes, but some of them do. And that one spun him out. Outstanding. Right. You get that joke. It's hilarious.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
And what's crazy about that joke is that he spun out. He made like 15 videos about me after. He was so angry. But in the video, my fiance ended up looking him up. He really was an O-lineman at a D3 school and had no stats recorded for that year. And I said... I shot in the dark and I hit your bitch ass, didn't I? Yeah. Yeah.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
When I tell you quit playing with me, when I tell you quit playing with me, like I mean that shit. So like I, I really, I shot in the dark completely and I hit him. So that's, that's also one of my best ones. I think there's a whole, I have a whole Rolodex, but like, yeah, those are some of my tops.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
That's what I'm saying.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Wow. Right. I'm telling you. Outstanding. That's why I feel like I've told men before, like... I, the insults they like levy at me are so low hanging fruit. It's always fat and ugly. It's fat and ugly and 50,000 different fonts. Like, it's just like that in a million different ways.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Um, and I've told people before, if you really want to stick, stick it to a man, when you insult him, you got to get up here. You got to get, you got to get real specific, like so deeply specific. Like instead of saying like, Oh, I bet it's small. I always tell people you could say something like you look like you wear a size eight shoe. very specific.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
It's things they care about so deeply. Women care about a lot of things like that too, but women don't typically think of that when they're insulting men. So I was like, don't worry, y'all. Trust me when I say it doesn't sound that mean, but it's going to live up here.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Okay. T let's do it.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Right. Or new. I was like, you logged on to TikTok.com this morning, probably, and barely found me.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Right, yeah.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Right. The arrogance, truly. I wish I... If I could just harness just an ounce of it, I could take over the world. You know what I mean? The arrogance and the confidence.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
I mean, at this point, I feel like in the beginning, it was kind of just if it was getting a lot of attention and it was tagging me a lot, I would do it no matter what. Now, I feel like I've kind of cleaned the streets a little too good. So they do hide from me pretty well now, which doesn't stop people from finding them. Like you said, I always compare myself to Varys in Game of Thrones.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
I got birds everywhere, bitch. And they be singing to me. And I always say like, they'll drop them at my altar, like off an offering. And then I come and I collect. So now I feel like I kind of just choose based off what makes me laugh specifically. So, cause it's always the same shit. Like it's nothing new. It's nothing different.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
It's always like, has anyone ever thought about like, and it's the most basic line of misogynist thinking ever heard in existence. Like the amount of men I've seen in 2024 say shit I've heard before. fucking 20 years ago, let alone two, right? So I started getting kind of bored. So now, unless I have just an absolute banger of a joke, I'll just ignore it.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Like most times I'll, but if I have a absolute banger, I'm like, yeah. Yeah, I'm going to stitch this one. Even though, like, if I got a really good one up here, I'm like, I'm going to fire this one off for sure. And it always does well because I can tell when it's going to do well. But now I think I just pick based off what I want to laugh at.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
And I know my audience will laugh, too, because they have the same humor I do. And they know me well enough by now. But, yeah, that's kind of how I pick now. In the beginning, it was kind of a free-for-all. Now I'm a little more specific. Yeah.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
You tried.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
I think it, I think it just depends. I think, cause I, I do exercise quite a bit of discernment when stitching people. Cause there are some things that I think are truly so awful that they don't deserve to be platformed at all. Like no one should ever have to look.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
It's, it's kind of like discerning between a man who truly thinks he's like God's gift to this earth and someone who's a fucking grifter. Now I think I don't ever worry about it giving them attention cause I don't stitch anything that,
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
unless I truly know like they thought I was never gonna see it or they thought they really were gonna hurt my feelings which is hilarious like like oh yeah you're the guy like believe it believe me you you're not the guy to get me like the one oh don't
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
If it helps, they say that shit about me too. So if it helps, they say that about me too.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Right.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Sometimes men will comment on my videos and they'll say, well, the fuck is this ugly bitch on my timeline? And I say, well, the fact that you commented, I'll see you again. I'll see you in a little bit. I'll see you in a couple scrolls, twin. I'll see you in a little.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Okay? So, like... Also, every podcaster in the history of time is an amateur when they start because there's no podcasting school and there's no license, clearly, because we have the worst men in the world buying microphones and saying things into them that everybody has heard for centuries. Yeah.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Yeah. Everybody's an amateur. Hello.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
I can't even tell you many men who talk shit on me still. Like I have said before, I'm like, I, I will continue to live. Our relationship is symbiotic. Like you will never stop being awful and I'll never stop fucking you up and being successful off of it. So it's kind of a win-win for me.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Yeah, I'm so petite. Look at me. Yeah. Hell yeah.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Right.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
You're mad that you're not my size. Yeah, for real. You're like, you goddamn right. So I would lower my voice if I were you.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
I'm a full grown man, bitch. I would lower your voice if I were you.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Exactly.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Yeah. I mean, I'm happy to hear it. You're a big bitch like me. I'm six feet tall. So like, and I've... I was 5'4 when I was 10. So your dad's big as fuck. My dad's big too. My dad is 6'6. So my dad's 6'6. My mom's 5'3. So my mom is like... My mom's 5'2. There you go. Look at us. Right. And then like my older sister is 5'4 and I'm 6 feet. And then my younger brother is like 6'1, 6'2. So...
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Like it's, I relate so heavily to you saying I've always felt like this was a normal size. Me too. And I knew I was tall when I started going to school, obviously. And like when I really hit my growth spurt because I was 5'4 when I was 10. So it's like fifth grade, sixth grade, I was 5'4. And then when I went into seventh and eighth grade, I grew four inches in like a year.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
So I was 5'8 when I was in eighth grade. And they were like, who's this grown man coming to the middle school? It's me. And I was just, I've always been big as fuck. I've always been a much larger, not just in height, but also just, I'm a thick girl too. Like I've always been a big body Benz, you know? And so when I went to high school, My freshman year of high school, I grew again.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
I was 5'9 when I was 14. And I remember I tore my ACL that year. So I tore everything in my knee. And then I got an MRI and x-rays and all that shit. And I remember my doctor at the time was like, oh, you look like it looks like your growth plates are pretty much closed. Like you shouldn't be growing anymore. And I said, do you fucking promise? Do you promise? Promise me.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Promise me I'm not going to grow anymore. Because I was so sick of being tall at the time. I never cared in middle school. But then when I got to high school, obviously, I'm like, I'm bigger than everyone, including most teachers. Like, I'm like, hello. I'm so huge. And my sister has been 5'4 since the sixth grade. So she's way shorter than me.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
And so I never really cared in terms of friends, but obviously when you're unpacking your internalized misogyny and you're going through puberty and all of that stuff, men being much shorter than me. I remember a couple guys said they wanted to take me to prom when I was a sophomore, but they said I was too tall. I think what helped me was my family. My mom would tell me a lot.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
She's like, you're never going to look like other girls like that, but that's okay. The way you look is not bad. Everybody looks different and everybody is beautiful in their own ways. And I'm like, whatever, mom, you don't get it. But now I feel really grateful for how tall I am. I love being tall. Now I never... don't wear platforms. I wear platforms all the time.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
I think I really kind of unpacked it when I was in college too, when I was like kind of working through my internalized misogyny. And as far as like body neutrality is typically what I like to practice now, which is I want to feel grateful for my body as it is and what it does for me, but I don't want to feel anything about it that's good or bad. I just want to feel gratitude towards it.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
That's what I've been practicing as an adult now because bodies are so temporary. Beauty is fickle. It fades with time and it's so subjective. And I feel like that was a huge catalyst for me unpacking my internalized fat phobia. Like to not be afraid, like afraid fat is not a bad word. Fat is not a denigrating word.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Like sociologically, we've given that word a lot of power and a lot of negativity where fat is nothing more than an adjective. It's a descriptor. It's not neither good nor bad. And I think me kind of making that a pillar in my platform is has really helped my audience understand that when men levy shit like that against you, it doesn't mean anything.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
And so is this wallet. Get into it, bitch.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Same. And I'll do the same.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Yeah. Thank you so much for having me. I do really quickly want to give you your flowers too. I think it's incredible what you're doing. I think your husband is fantastic and a hall of famer. And I think what he's done for the sport has been incredible, but more importantly, having someone like you by his side, I think is incredible.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
It is really hard to be the wife of a football player and let alone raise a family. Trust me. I know. So I want to give you your flowers. I think you're incredible and fantastic. And I think you entering the podcasting space. It can only be good. There's only good things that can come from it. And I think you're wonderful. And I think you keep his ass in line and that's period.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
That's on fucking period. And he's in a house full of women. Yeah. Yeah. I love to hear it.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Girl, I love it. It's, it's truly the best thing ever. And I think, Having someone like you as their mom is incredible. And I think mothers are just superheroes. You have truly conquered death four times, which is crazy. And I think that's incredible. And I think you're amazing and so admirable. And I'm honored to have been on. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Oh my gosh, thank you so much for having me. It's an honor to be a part of the Kelsey universe, period.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
That's me Pavloving everyone. My laugh elicits a laugh, you know. It is perfection.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Yeah. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. That's so sweet. Congratulations, by the way.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Fourth baby.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Period. Get into it. I'm at the helm. I'm at the front. I'll lead from the front.
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Right. That's fair. That's easy. I feel like you can start counting backwards whenever you want. Perfect. I did get in under the wire. That's for sure. Because I'm 29. But yeah, it was an honor. It was crazy. I've worked with Forbes a couple times now. So it's really cool and very rewarding. Given what I do and the niche that I have to be... like rewarded and accolade like Forbes 30 under 30.