Dr. Suzette Sutherland

for the men's encounters and almost 18, almost 19, I mean, minutes, right? So another two and a half to three minutes per encounter.

And then that also doesn't talk about some of the things that we have alluded to before about the amount of time spent not only face-to-face with the patients, but afterwards and phone calls or communicating with families, so on and so forth, that don't get into the actual encounter visit that women are also doing. So two-year point. Yeah. So it's good to put numbers.

And then that also doesn't talk about some of the things that we have alluded to before about the amount of time spent not only face-to-face with the patients, but afterwards and phone calls or communicating with families, so on and so forth, that don't get into the actual encounter visit that women are also doing. So two-year point. Yeah. So it's good to put numbers.

And then that also doesn't talk about some of the things that we have alluded to before about the amount of time spent not only face-to-face with the patients, but afterwards and phone calls or communicating with families, so on and so forth, that don't get into the actual encounter visit that women are also doing. So two-year point. Yeah. So it's good to put numbers.

And I also wanted to say one little caveat just for the listeners so they understand that when we're talking about these numbers, like the 25% of the people that are less than 45 are women, right? We're talking about The practicing urologists, we're not talking about trainees because we do know that that number is increasing too, right? The number of trainees that are women.

And I also wanted to say one little caveat just for the listeners so they understand that when we're talking about these numbers, like the 25% of the people that are less than 45 are women, right? We're talking about The practicing urologists, we're not talking about trainees because we do know that that number is increasing too, right? The number of trainees that are women.

And I also wanted to say one little caveat just for the listeners so they understand that when we're talking about these numbers, like the 25% of the people that are less than 45 are women, right? We're talking about The practicing urologists, we're not talking about trainees because we do know that that number is increasing too, right? The number of trainees that are women.

So we just want to make sure we're looking at that fairly to say, yep, it's also the number of people who are coming out of training and in practice. That's the 25% number that are women. So.

So we just want to make sure we're looking at that fairly to say, yep, it's also the number of people who are coming out of training and in practice. That's the 25% number that are women. So.

So we just want to make sure we're looking at that fairly to say, yep, it's also the number of people who are coming out of training and in practice. That's the 25% number that are women. So.

I wanted to go back to the comment, and maybe Dr. Nielsen, you can comment on this then too, is this idea of fellowship. More people overall, men and women, more of our trainees coming out or feeling they need to do fellowships or they want to do fellowships. I shouldn't say need, want to do fellowships and not always necessarily going into academic practices, but feel they want to do fellowships.

I wanted to go back to the comment, and maybe Dr. Nielsen, you can comment on this then too, is this idea of fellowship. More people overall, men and women, more of our trainees coming out or feeling they need to do fellowships or they want to do fellowships. I shouldn't say need, want to do fellowships and not always necessarily going into academic practices, but feel they want to do fellowships.

I wanted to go back to the comment, and maybe Dr. Nielsen, you can comment on this then too, is this idea of fellowship. More people overall, men and women, more of our trainees coming out or feeling they need to do fellowships or they want to do fellowships. I shouldn't say need, want to do fellowships and not always necessarily going into academic practices, but feel they want to do fellowships.

And then what do you think that that says, though, about the landscape of our urology and the type of practices that people want when they're done with their fellowship? And what does that mean that we can offer to patients then when we get so super specialized?

And then what do you think that that says, though, about the landscape of our urology and the type of practices that people want when they're done with their fellowship? And what does that mean that we can offer to patients then when we get so super specialized?

And then what do you think that that says, though, about the landscape of our urology and the type of practices that people want when they're done with their fellowship? And what does that mean that we can offer to patients then when we get so super specialized?

Because we're going to get in a little bit later into things like burnout and all that. But if somebody's not getting the practice that they thought they wanted because the demand is different, you know, what does that say about physician satisfaction about their practice? Right.

Because we're going to get in a little bit later into things like burnout and all that. But if somebody's not getting the practice that they thought they wanted because the demand is different, you know, what does that say about physician satisfaction about their practice? Right.

Because we're going to get in a little bit later into things like burnout and all that. But if somebody's not getting the practice that they thought they wanted because the demand is different, you know, what does that say about physician satisfaction about their practice? Right.

So we need to be thinking about that as we're training people to get out into the greater urological community, what the need is. So that's why this data is so important, too. Right. For us to find out what what the needs are.