Dr. Suzette Sutherland

And many people who've had some experience with it know it's really blossomed into this wonderful organization that has programs in over 20 countries around the world. Dr. DeVries also has quite the academic pedigree, I would say. Her undergraduate was done at Harvard.

She had graduate school, master's in pathology at Duke, then her MD degree and urology residency at Stanford, then went on for a Peds Urology Fellowship at UC San Diego, and even executive leadership in academic medicine program at Drexel University. So she really has quite the pedigree and has done wonderful things in the area of global surgery, as well as in pediatric urology.

She had graduate school, master's in pathology at Duke, then her MD degree and urology residency at Stanford, then went on for a Peds Urology Fellowship at UC San Diego, and even executive leadership in academic medicine program at Drexel University. So she really has quite the pedigree and has done wonderful things in the area of global surgery, as well as in pediatric urology.

She had graduate school, master's in pathology at Duke, then her MD degree and urology residency at Stanford, then went on for a Peds Urology Fellowship at UC San Diego, and even executive leadership in academic medicine program at Drexel University. So she really has quite the pedigree and has done wonderful things in the area of global surgery, as well as in pediatric urology.

And again, a trailblazer for many other women. I'd like to just get started if we can and just dive in to what your experience was like as a woman starting in urology. Because certainly, you know, when you were going through the training, there weren't many people at all that are women in urology today. you know, about 10% of the urological workforce is women.

And again, a trailblazer for many other women. I'd like to just get started if we can and just dive in to what your experience was like as a woman starting in urology. Because certainly, you know, when you were going through the training, there weren't many people at all that are women in urology today. you know, about 10% of the urological workforce is women.

And again, a trailblazer for many other women. I'd like to just get started if we can and just dive in to what your experience was like as a woman starting in urology. Because certainly, you know, when you were going through the training, there weren't many people at all that are women in urology today. you know, about 10% of the urological workforce is women.

And about 25% of our trainees right now are women, which is wonderful. It means one fourth of people being trained in urology. So it's really growing. But, you know, when you were going through this process, You were probably the only one. Is that correct?

And about 25% of our trainees right now are women, which is wonderful. It means one fourth of people being trained in urology. So it's really growing. But, you know, when you were going through this process, You were probably the only one. Is that correct?

And about 25% of our trainees right now are women, which is wonderful. It means one fourth of people being trained in urology. So it's really growing. But, you know, when you were going through this process, You were probably the only one. Is that correct?

So it's really hard to say that you had any role models to emulate, to look at that you worked with, right? You really were pretty much on your own, an island among men. That is true.

So it's really hard to say that you had any role models to emulate, to look at that you worked with, right? You really were pretty much on your own, an island among men. That is true.

So it's really hard to say that you had any role models to emulate, to look at that you worked with, right? You really were pretty much on your own, an island among men. That is true.

I mean, not from women. Was there anyone in particular that took you under their wing and just sort of made sure that you were visible in the process? Or do you feel like you really were just alone?

I mean, not from women. Was there anyone in particular that took you under their wing and just sort of made sure that you were visible in the process? Or do you feel like you really were just alone?

I mean, not from women. Was there anyone in particular that took you under their wing and just sort of made sure that you were visible in the process? Or do you feel like you really were just alone?

So yeah, if you don't mind saying what year was that, that then you graduated from residency?

So yeah, if you don't mind saying what year was that, that then you graduated from residency?

So yeah, if you don't mind saying what year was that, that then you graduated from residency?

So you're the late 80s. You were going through a residency.