Dr. Suzette Sutherland

I was going to just pepper something in there is a lot of times people think, well, women are taking longer to get promoted because they're having babies. But we know there's data to show that is not the case. That's not getting in the way of their promotion. taking off time to have their babies. It's not that at all.

I was going to just pepper something in there is a lot of times people think, well, women are taking longer to get promoted because they're having babies. But we know there's data to show that is not the case. That's not getting in the way of their promotion. taking off time to have their babies. It's not that at all.

I was going to just pepper something in there is a lot of times people think, well, women are taking longer to get promoted because they're having babies. But we know there's data to show that is not the case. That's not getting in the way of their promotion. taking off time to have their babies. It's not that at all.

And when you look at very well-qualified women who are going, as you just said, early promotion and going up against some of their male colleagues for early promotion, and they don't get it, but the male does. But the qualifications are there.

And when you look at very well-qualified women who are going, as you just said, early promotion and going up against some of their male colleagues for early promotion, and they don't get it, but the male does. But the qualifications are there.

And when you look at very well-qualified women who are going, as you just said, early promotion and going up against some of their male colleagues for early promotion, and they don't get it, but the male does. But the qualifications are there.

Gosh, that could be another podcast and probably should all by itself. I mean. So we see this very commonly, of course, we're in a very male-dominated field, urology, right? One of the most male-dominated still today of all of the surgical specialties, right? Has the lowest number of women. And, you know, women traditionally have tried to fit in to a man's world, right?

Gosh, that could be another podcast and probably should all by itself. I mean. So we see this very commonly, of course, we're in a very male-dominated field, urology, right? One of the most male-dominated still today of all of the surgical specialties, right? Has the lowest number of women. And, you know, women traditionally have tried to fit in to a man's world, right?

Gosh, that could be another podcast and probably should all by itself. I mean. So we see this very commonly, of course, we're in a very male-dominated field, urology, right? One of the most male-dominated still today of all of the surgical specialties, right? Has the lowest number of women. And, you know, women traditionally have tried to fit in to a man's world, right?

We certainly try to gravitate away from that to some degree and allow women to feel empowered to be themselves, even if it's extremely feminine and that is who you are and it makes you a great doctor. And the culture needs to embrace that, embrace those differences, as opposed to the women just need to fit in.

We certainly try to gravitate away from that to some degree and allow women to feel empowered to be themselves, even if it's extremely feminine and that is who you are and it makes you a great doctor. And the culture needs to embrace that, embrace those differences, as opposed to the women just need to fit in.

We certainly try to gravitate away from that to some degree and allow women to feel empowered to be themselves, even if it's extremely feminine and that is who you are and it makes you a great doctor. And the culture needs to embrace that, embrace those differences, as opposed to the women just need to fit in.

But even there are some business characteristics that are very advantageous if someone comes in and can be quite decisive about and can move the needle forward in a quick manner. That's great for business. But when men, women do that, they're oftentimes, you know, perceived as being bossy, or you're too pushy. You need to make sure that you have the consensus in the whole room and get

But even there are some business characteristics that are very advantageous if someone comes in and can be quite decisive about and can move the needle forward in a quick manner. That's great for business. But when men, women do that, they're oftentimes, you know, perceived as being bossy, or you're too pushy. You need to make sure that you have the consensus in the whole room and get

But even there are some business characteristics that are very advantageous if someone comes in and can be quite decisive about and can move the needle forward in a quick manner. That's great for business. But when men, women do that, they're oftentimes, you know, perceived as being bossy, or you're too pushy. You need to make sure that you have the consensus in the whole room and get

Kumbaya, have everybody put their arms around each other and feel good about what you're doing. But when a man comes in and is very decisive and says, this is what we're going to do, acknowledges you can't please everybody. I'm going to try to please most, but I'm not going to kumbaya and please everyone. And that's acceptable, right? It becomes really this catch-22.

Kumbaya, have everybody put their arms around each other and feel good about what you're doing. But when a man comes in and is very decisive and says, this is what we're going to do, acknowledges you can't please everybody. I'm going to try to please most, but I'm not going to kumbaya and please everyone. And that's acceptable, right? It becomes really this catch-22.

Kumbaya, have everybody put their arms around each other and feel good about what you're doing. But when a man comes in and is very decisive and says, this is what we're going to do, acknowledges you can't please everybody. I'm going to try to please most, but I'm not going to kumbaya and please everyone. And that's acceptable, right? It becomes really this catch-22.

You want to be effective in what you're doing, but you can't do it in too aggressive manner, right? or you're labeled, and then suddenly all these negative connotations are attached to you as a leader, right? And it becomes really difficult. So that's another hard one. And we just need people to wake up to that, right?

You want to be effective in what you're doing, but you can't do it in too aggressive manner, right? or you're labeled, and then suddenly all these negative connotations are attached to you as a leader, right? And it becomes really difficult. So that's another hard one. And we just need people to wake up to that, right?