Dr. Sabine Hazan
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
process looks like this is what leaky gut looks like right so if you look at the data and to get back to your question on leaky gut it's exactly we don't you wouldn't know from the literature because unfortunately 90 percent of the literature out there and i read it all day long it's flawed i can't reproduce it if i can't reproduce it It's not valid.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
So if somebody writes a paper on, well, this microbe is Parkinson's, and I'm looking at my 50 patients that I've analyzed that have Parkinson's, and I don't find this microbe, we have a problem. Yes.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Well, the first thing I would say is calm down, de-stress. We don't have all the data right now. There's hope in the horizon. However... Beware, and you know, Scott Jackson at the National Institute of Standard, who's gonna be hopefully working with me in the future, you know, says a beautiful sentence, which is customer beware.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
And I think the customer needs to beware that these stool samples that they're doing out there are just not there yet. And here's the other problem. When you see Bacteroides vulgaris, what does that mean? Don't panic and think you need to kill things. You know, I see so many things on social media and influencers that are saying, Kill the parasites, kill the parasites. I'm a gastroenterologist.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
I look for parasites all day long. If I don't see a parasite, I'm not going to give a patient a cleanse. Because here's the thing, the cleanse will kill the parasite that you may have, but it will kill your microbiome as well. And good luck bringing back your microbiome when you don't even know what it looks like or what it looked like, right? Because it's like a broken glass.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
That you have no idea what it looked like. You're trying to rebuild it. So beware. And, you know, there is research. We're coming out with a lot of exciting things, a lot of exciting therapeutics in the microbiome space with autism, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, hopefully. But in the meantime, calm down. Make sure you're taking good vitamins. You're going into the sun. You're hiking.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
You're eating real food. You're... Making sure you know where your food's coming from, your farm, your beef. I like regenerative beef myself, et cetera. If you're vegan and vegan does great for your gut, stick to it. If you're vegetarian and vegetarian is great for your gut, stick to it. If you're carnivore, stick to it.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
I think the thing that we're noticing about the microbiome is we're all different. And we all have different diet needs. I was born in Morocco, but I have Greek ancestry, Italian. So my diet is more Italian, Mediterranean food. The person that's from China probably needs to look back at where his ancestors were.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Go back to the diet that's comfortable from your ancestors that you feel doesn't cause you any problems. The moment you start having bloating, gas, you know that doesn't agree with your gut. So pay attention to that.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Well, you could have probably bagel and lox too, right? Yes, he could. That's actually true. He could. No chives.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
So what we're noticing is the loss of microbes that cause the allergies. It's the loss of microbes that possibly could. And I'm going to say possibly because, you know, in medicine, you can never say that causes, then everybody's going to shoot at me. But I think possibly celiac sprue is a loss of microbes. Allergies is loss of microbes. I think all of it really begins in the gut.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
So I think because I'm doing, I've done clinical trials and I've done all these clinical trials for pharma on biologics. And actually I did the study on MAP, which was a quad therapy, quadruple therapy of antibiotics hitting really mycobacteria perituberculosis.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
So what we discovered with Crohn's disease was that, or what I discovered, it's not published yet because it was a small study as I was doing the clinical trial. is that there possibly could be one third of people that have mycobacteria perituberculosis. One third of people have may have a genetic problem and one third of people may have a gut dysbiosis.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
My own data actually showed that it was a loss of bifidobacteria in new. So if you if you look at all the new onset naive, non-treated Crohn's patients, you'll notice they have zero bifidobacteria. So when you go to that route and you fix early the loss of bifidobacteria, you may have a chance at restoring it.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
One of the things that I noticed with bovine immunoglobulins, which is the blood of the cow that's spun around the clear stuff, is that it actually increases the bifidobacteria. So if we're lucky in the young people, Those people, if you catch them early and you give them bovine, you may resolve them. I have one case that I published was a young man who was started on Numera.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
The mom didn't want him to be on Numera. We put him on bovine and right away he went into remission and I've not seen him in five years. And you could see his dysbiosis. Really? He had a lot of bacteroides, zero bifidobacteria. As we gave him the bovine, the bifidobacteria went up. The bacteroides went down. This kid has not seen me.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
And in fact, the father, you know, who owned a coffee company talked about it on a show one day about that case. But we published that case. You know, the other thing that we're starting to see is really that correction of of of bifidobacteria can help these folks. Now, there's a population that you cannot get them that even if you change the diet, you change everything.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
They need to be on biologics. And then there's a population that the biologics are not working. So, you know, there's no genetic component. And those are the people that fit very well with MAP. Because you have to like ask yourself, did those people have, you know, did they eat beef from a cow that had mycobacteria perituberculosis? So mycobacteria perituberculosis is very similar.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
It causes in cows a disease called Yoni's disease, which is very similar to Crohn's disease. And you see these cows, they're wasted and they're having diarrhea. And basically, if you're unfortunate to have, you know, eaten the meat from that cow, then you may end up having that problem. So is a vaccine the answer? Maybe, but I tend to think that we really need to be more precise.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
And I think that's what the microbiome is going to help us.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
So bifidobacteria is the bacteria. But there is a genetic component to Crohn's disease, right? That's where the biologics are going after. One important thing about that clinical trial.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Right, exactly.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
So you could test, you could join a clinical trial. We have a lot of clinical trials where you could join. We have one on Crohn's disease. We can test your kids and we can kind of tell you, look, we're seeing no bifidobacteria. And that could help your kids with that. The second thing you could do is you could do genetic testing, obviously, to see. But here's the thing.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
The majority of people with Crohn's disease that we see in our offices do not necessarily transfer to their kids. That's a relief. And I'll tell you that clinical trial that I did, they came to me to enter a trial where they got quadruple therapy, right? What I realized after the fact was that one third responded and that's how it came on that, oh, well, maybe one third has MAP, right?
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Because it's very difficult to isolate mycobacteria per tuberculosis. Right. And then what happened is the other one third went into having biologics and they were fine on biologics. And then one third ended up developing C. diff. And that's how we discovered because they were taking antibiotics. Right. And so they were on quadruple antibiotic for a long time.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
So those patients is who we did fecal transplant on. And out of that population, you know, some resolved and some didn't resolve. So then you have to kind of look at why did some resolve? Did I use the right donor? It happened that, you know, one, if I recall, was taking a lot of nutraceuticals that were the equivalent of antibiotics. You know, there's so many nutraceuticals out there.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
They're killing the gut. And so no matter how much I was giving him a new microbiome of his daughter, he was not resolving the problem. But another one I treated with a brother, and those are the two cases that come up in my mind, did great and resolved Crohn's disease. So that's how you kind of differentiate.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Absolutely true. I mean, there's so much corruption. Look, the company, the scientists and the investors and investors retracted my hypothesis, you know? So when in medicine does an investor of a product get to have any say in what paper gets to stay or gets retracted, right? Never. And when does a PhD scientist... go to the editor and say, we tracked this paper, we found all these problems.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Never, it should be my peers. So when my peers who spent their time and basically said, you know, this paper is great, we've looked at everything, put it to publication, and then they go over those peers that are not paid, by the way, none of my colleagues that do peer review are paid, then you have to say, what's going on? Who's paying these people to retract? There's so much corruption.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Listen, I'm going to just tell you one thing. At the beginning of the pandemic, nobody paid attention. But because I've done clinical trials, I paid attention. There was an ad from Madonna, naked, April 4th. 2020, Madonna has donated $1 million to the Bill Gates Foundation for the vaccine. That's already telling, branding people with the vaccine.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
And then you have an article on The Economist with Bill Gates talking about the future of vaccines, April 26th. That should never happen. The vaccines were not even in, never, didn't even go through the IRB. Every ad, everything you do in clinical trials, you have to get IRB approval.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
So the IRB hadn't even looked at the protocol and they're already branding you and influencing the customer or the consumer or the patient with vaccines. That should have never happened. And so, yes, what I saw with Pfizer, I mean, listen, Pfizer's had fines, GSK's had fines. You know, this is how they get caught.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
They get caught because they do stupid things like that, that is trying to push a product to market. And they ignored the ICHGCP guidelines, which clearly states you cannot advertise unless you have IRB approval. You have to have informed consent. Informed consent was in process during the pandemic. Kids were getting vaccinated at CVS. Yeah.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
But before the clinical trials were for kids, kids were getting vaccinated at CVS. I know I saw it in Malibu. The kids were lining up. So nobody gave informed consent to these kids. Nobody told these kids, listen, there's no clinical trials on that.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
One of my friends had a pulmonary embolize. She's a photographer and had a pulmonary embolize shortly after the vaccine. And basically, you know, I said to her, I go, well, what are you taking? She goes, I was on the birth control pill. I go, didn't anybody tell you that you could have a coagulopathy and the vaccines could cause coagulopathy? No informed consent, no history.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
It's just line up, shot. And that was ridiculous. So there is corruption and I hope this administration is going to get a handle of that. I hope they bring back science where we can publish again. I'm telling you, I'm gun shy in publishing. You know, I have amazing data on autism. I'm gun shy. I know I'm going to get retracted or there's going to be problems in emails. So...
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Now there's a group of doctors that call themselves the science guardian, and they're going after the people that are retracting, and they're looking at all this. So we've assembled. And here's the other thing, Drew, and I know you know this. The problem is doctors don't unite. Doctors need to come together and talk and say, let's come to the table. It's hard for us.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
And we have to, the pandemic taught us that, that we need to come to the table and look at both sides of the narrative. I could be right, I could be wrong, but we need to talk about it and not say, oh, this person is full of it. And this person's, by the way, that's why I wrote the book, Let's Talk Shit. I said, maybe they'll think I'm full of it or maybe I'll know it, right?
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
But let's talk about it. So that's it.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Show me.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
No, show me the data. One of my professors used to say, show me the data.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Thank you so much.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for having me.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Progena Biome because it's from your genes to your biome. Progena.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
So we're a research genetic sequencing lab. As you know, during the pandemic, we kind of made our debut by finding COVID in the stools. And then from there, we isolated a bacteria that we believe protects you from COVID or viruses. And then from there discovered kind of the microbiome. So that's the purpose of the company is really to research the microbiome and disease.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
And we have 61 clinical trials going on on the microbiome and disease right now.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
No, I started the company a couple of years prior because I was interested in the microbiome. I was seeing something when I was doing fecal transplant, the process of taking stools from healthy donors and putting it into unhealthy with C. diff. And what happened was I was really interested in...
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
You know, I had a case of a patient with Alzheimer's who improved after fecal transplant or intestinal microbiota transplant. And I said, what happened there? What microbe causes Alzheimer's or what group of microbes or what signature microbiome is involved in Alzheimer's?
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
So rather than just bringing a stool product to market and a pharma product, I was more interested into the microbe itself, the relationship of microbes and how does disease occur? We all know disease begins in the gut, but I just didn't know how and why and which microbes are involved. So I founded ProgenaBiome with that concept.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Correct. I knew because I saw something changed with C. diff. My first case was a doctor actually that was dying. And I was the girl that was doing clinical trials for C. diff. So when the clinical trial didn't work, And the pharmaceutical product, first of all, vancomycin, flagyl didn't work. And then I went the clinical trial route.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
When the clinical trial route didn't work, I was kind of, I'm not going to let this guy die. So let me try fecal transplant. Everybody's talking about it. And when I saw the colon completely, you know, with ulcerations and mucus and everything, and then... Two weeks later, the colonic mucosa is completely normal. I said, what did that? How did that happen, right?
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
And so that's basically what got me into asking the question, how did poop change a colon that has a bunch of ulcers to a normal colonic mucosa?
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Well, I wasn't focused on the bifidobacteria until COVID, really. Initially, what I saw with C. diff and what was a progression of the research essentially was, yeah.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
So C. diff is a condition that people have that they come to the doctor with recurring diarrhea, chronic diarrhea, it seems. And if you take the history, they've taken some antibiotics in the past, have gone to the dentist, and then all of a sudden they get diarrhea that nobody can fix. And so C. diff, essentially, the way that we treat C. diff is either antibiotics like flagyl vancomycin.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
And when that doesn't happen, we go into clinical trials. When those didn't work, we would put stools of a healthy donor in the colon, precisely in the cecum of a person, to fix the problem. What we realized is that, especially when we started, when we opened Progena Biome, was really that the microbiome was removed. The diversity, these patients lost their diversity.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
That's why they were having recurrent episodes of C. diff. So what we were doing was we were giving vancomycin, killing diversity around the C. diff, but we were missing C. diff. And then we kept killing with another antibiotic. So it's like having a mosquito in your house and you're taking a machete and you're trying to kill it, but you missed the mosquito, but you've destroyed your house.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
So that's essentially what we were doing 20 years ago and 15 years ago. And what fecal transplant does is it takes all the stools from the healthy donor, puts it back into the colon. So you're essentially re-giving a diversity to suppress the Clostridium difficile. And that was the big discovery prior to COVID. When COVID came on, I figured, well, I've done clinical trials for pharma.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
I have a genetic sequencing lab that's looking at the microbiome. We know that, you know, at least I knew that to fight a virus, you need strong microbes. And actually, I wrote the book, Let's Talk Shit in there. There's a mention of bifidobacteria, but it was kind of a hypothesis. It was something that I read in different papers, but it wasn't really concrete. Until COVID.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
And what happened was when we found COVID in the stools, we decided to look at the microbiome. And that's when we noticed that every single patient that had severe COVID was lacking this bacteria, bifidobacteria. And bifidobacteria is found in newborns and it's absent in old people. And so does the discovery of bifidobacteria, the implications of bifidobacteria, its functions.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
And here we are today with my whole, you know, slogan, which is save the bif, because I'm realizing we're killing more microbes than we can do, you know, so it's crazy.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Oh, absolutely. So you don't. And that's the... You don't know whether the C. diff... I'm sorry. You don't know whether the loss of bifidobacteria happened because they were sick, they took antibiotics, they got COVID, they got a virus, or the virus created...
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
the loss of bifidobacteria or the person is so stressed about having the virus that the increased acidity in the stomach and the whole digestive tract is all in disarray, which creates the loss of bifidobacteria. So yeah, there's, you know, it's, you know, in medicine, it's never a one thing and we're not sure of anything really. It's all hypothetical.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Yeah, so I'm coming out with a case report and that's really my case report during the pandemic because I was the guinea pig. And so I kind of followed myself through the pandemic. And what I think happens is that you end up with a loss of bifidobacteria. either because you killed it. So I killed my bifidobacteria during the pandemic.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
And what I noticed was a, what I call a bifidobacteria bacteroides gap, essentially. And I feel that the virus penetrates when that gap, you know, what we call leaky gut is not really defined. And it's really because the microbiome kind of opens up. You've got a loss of bifidobacteria. You've got high bacteroides, which we've come to realize is linked with anxiety.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
So, you know, when you see that and you see the signature microbiome, and of course, there's other microbes that are disappearing. the virus penetrates. And I'm going to be showing that in my own case where I've seen viruses come in and viruses go and being symptomatic, not being symptomatic and what it all does. So that's coming in the future as a case.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Well, the first thing is when I stepped into the microbiome, I realized, wow, there's so many discrepancies, right? So many labs out there, so much non-validation, so much non-reproducibility, right? So the first thing I did was analyze my stools with different labs and I got different results. even the same stool sample, different results.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
So I said, well, how can I understand the microbiome before and after fecal transplant when I improve a disease if I can't even have the same lab validated, verified, and reproducible? And so I created Progena Biome really with that interest. I told my genetic sequencing, my scientist was behind the BRCA gene. And I said to him, I said, I want an assay that is valid, verified, and reproducible.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
So if I test myself today, tomorrow, and I don't change anything, it's still Sabine Hazen. I'm going to be able to recognize my signature microbiome. So that was the first thing, was developing that assay. Once we developed that assay, It became complex because we started realizing, wait a minute, there's no normals. Everybody's different. So how do you compare? How do I compare me to you?
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
For example, you just came back from New York. I just came back from Austin. I ate Mexican food. You ate like whatever. And so, you know... Our microbiomes are probably very different and yet we feel like we're normal, right? So how is there a normal? How do you capture that microbiome that you're not really looking at the food that you ate last night, right? So that was another challenge.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
The third challenge was how do you capture all that data in a bioinformatics pipeline? Because even the bioinformatics pipeline were flawed. And, you know, you would send the result, the sequences to one pipeline and you would get, again, different results. So it really is, you know, a methodical analysis of the microbiome. It's really precise.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
It's really, you have to normalize these samples up to a certain level and you have to really do the clinical, right? So in other words- Well, what did I eat? What did I take? Did I take antibiotics? Was I on medications? And then you compare it to families and then you say, okay, well, let me see what the family looks like.
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Oh, the family seems to have these microbes and your kid is lacking these microbes that you all have in the family. What happened? Why is the kid autistic and lacking these microbes, for example, right? So that was really, you know, the whole...
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
point of progena biome was really to validate to use my experience having done clinical trials for pharmaceutical companies to now bring pharmaceutical companies to say listen you guys have been you know putting one product after another but we're never reaching a cure can we be a little bit more precise can we see what these drugs are doing can we see what you know the vaccine's doing?
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Pfizer Told Scientist To “Deliberately Slow Down” mRNA Testing To Help 2020 Biden Election, Alleges US House Panel w/ Dr. Sabine Hazan & Ian Miller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 483
Can we see what antibiotics are doing? Can we see maybe one antibiotic improves bifidobacteria, maybe another doesn't? What does Tamiflu do? What does Repdesivir do to the microbiome? So this is basically the path that I want to get us into to develop these markers and to say, look, this is what autoimmune