Dr. Kelly Victory
Appearances
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Texas Child Death: Measles, Pneumonia or Medical Malpractice? w/ Dr. Kelly Victory – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 468
It's bad.
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Texas Child Death: Measles, Pneumonia or Medical Malpractice? w/ Dr. Kelly Victory – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 468
Ridiculous. I'm a doctor. Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. If you have trouble, you can't stop and you want help stopping, I can help.
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Texas Child Death: Measles, Pneumonia or Medical Malpractice? w/ Dr. Kelly Victory – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 468
I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
They advertise so that they can control the talking heads so that they can make sure that nobody ever says a bad word about their products, says anything about their liability protection on vaccines, says anything about the fact that there's a question whether statins are legitimate or should be prescribed, any of that. They do it to control it.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
And there's a reason why every other country with the exception of New Zealand doesn't allow it because you cannot have integrity in the media if the media is completely owned and controlled by big pharma. So I think that this is a huge issue.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
And back to what you were saying, when you think about the profit center of vaccines, if you don't have to spend any money on marketing because they're mandated, they're on the childhood schedule, and your kid can't go to school without them, and you don't have to spend any money on liability, You don't have to have lawyers or fundamentally malpractice insurance.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
The entire thing goes to the bottom line. It is a cash cow. So if you wonder why there's an effort to keep Bobby Kennedy out of HHS has nothing to do with what they're saying. It's purely about the dollars. So let's pivot for a second here now to the update on what I would call the state of the data.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
As I said, he has been an indefatigable champion for exposing data related to COVID and related to the impact on excess deaths, excess disability, and those sorts of things. So we'll be back in just a minute, and I will more formally introduce Ed at that time.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Many people who are watching this undoubtedly have followed you like I have for the duration of the pandemic, but kind of take us through where you started and what you're seeing You know, what trends have continued, what trends have, you know, what's the trajectory of the lines that you're seeing with regard to excess deaths, disabilities, all the things that you and your team have been tracking.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Yeah, so a few things here. I'm very interested in what's going on with the birth rate. You and I were talking the other day. There are a couple of countries. I believe that Taiwan is one of them. I think it's either North or South Korea. You had mentioned was another where birth rates are fundamentally at extinction rate.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
If they continue going like this, birth rates are so low that it's not sustainable. So when you add together the impact of excess deaths plus decreased births, the overall impact on the population growth is really profound. And what people need to understand is it's, you know, population isn't just how many people are on the planet.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
So it's also whether or not it's sustainable from an economic standpoint, as there are lots of downstream impacts. So talk just for a second about population in general. It's not just sort of, oh, it's sad that people are dying, which it is tragic that they were killed fundamentally by these shots, which is horrific. But just talk a little for a second about the impact of plummeting population.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Yeah, and with regard, just so that people understand, with regard to this fertility issue, birth rates in particular, we have clear pathophysiology that explains why these mRNA injections might be the cause. With regard to men, we know that males who receive the injections show lower sperm counts and lower sperm motility, for example.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
We know that there is a protein on the spike protein of COVID for which the shots cause you to form antibodies that is very, very similar, almost identical to a protein that is critical for the formation and development of the placenta. So if you get one of these shots and you develop antibodies to the spike protein,
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
At the same time, you are developing antibodies to a forming placenta, which may well explain why we're seeing increased rates of miscarriage or failures of women to be able to get pregnant in the first place. So it's not like we're just pulling... There's not just a correlation. There's actually... good pathophysiology, pathophysiologic explanation for why that might be happening.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
So we're seeing that with regard to also, I would maintain if you pulled the shots off the market today, if you completely said, okay, no more mRNA shots, we still haven't seen the end of the health impact, the negative impact on the people who took them.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
And I think the lagging disease that we're going to see, we certainly saw the sudden cardiac deaths, the myocarditis, obviously the anaphylaxis, blood clots and strokes early on. It's the cancers and the autoimmune related issues that I think you're going to see for the next decade. We know we're seeing increases in almost every cancer.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Are you guys following individual condition increases or just deaths?
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
I agree with you. And for what it's worth, you know, people disagree with me all the time. And people are welcome to their opinion. If you think I'm an idiot, absolutely, that's your opinion. You're welcome to that. But what you're not welcome to is to not provide another explanation. I happen to believe, as you do, that the cause of these things is the mass vaccination program.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
If you disagree with that and you say, you know, that's not what happened, great. What's your opinion? Because the data don't lie. You have the numbers on excess deaths and excess disability. And we know the increases in certain disease processes, whether it's cancer or myocarditis or strokes or whatever it is. Those data do not lie.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
So you are required as a scientist, and this is what kills me about my colleagues who dispute that it's the vaccine. Great. If you don't think it's the vaccine, what is your explanation? Because you can't just ignore the data. you are obligated to come up with another credible idea. And so far, you know, in climate change, I don't know, what was it? What's your theory for what caused this?
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
But you can't just say I'm wrong and not come up with something else that you think is credible. So we're going to take a quick break, your quick ad break, and then come back and finish talking about this. And then I want to pick your brain a little bit before we run fully out of time on the issues around the economy. So we'll see you back in a minute.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
There's nothing in medicine that doesn't boil down to a risk-benefit calculation. It is the mandate of public health to consider the impact of any particular mitigation scheme on the entire population. This is uncharted territory, Drew. Welcome back. And let's bring Ed right back in here because I want to clarify.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
I was thinking, Ed, we were talking about the excess deaths and you were saying good news, bad news, that we've gone from a high of at one point 40 percent increase, you know, excess all cause mortality, all cause mortality to now down to seven to 13 percent or wherever we're floating right now. That's with regard to deaths. What about disability? If you said it, I missed it.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Where are we on the increases in disability rates overall?
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
And there's so many things that are unspoken, that we don't talk about, that are related to these numbers. If you look at any particular industry that relies on skilled workers, say airline pilots or the military or even somebody in high tech, if the people who end up being disabled and taken out of the workforce are are then replaced by new hires.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Think about what that means for the skill level of the average commercial airline pilot. If the veterans are the ones who are disabled because they took the shots and they get replaced by people who are just new, we are replacing them with people who are less skilled, less experienced, have less years behind them. Same thing with our military.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
You have a portion of our military who chose to leave voluntarily or was fired because they refused to take the shot. And the ones who stuck around and took it, many of them are now working part-time, half-time, or working not up to full capacity. We've put a serious hurt, from my perspective, on the strength of our military, our young troops, as a result of this singular vaccine initiative.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
I don't think we'll ever really get our arms around just how profound the impact was. Do you guys follow or watch or crunch the data from other countries, or are you just looking domestically?
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
I agree with you 100%, and I think this is the single biggest issue that Robert Kennedy Jr. can tackle. He's not going to focus just on vaccines. It's the overarching fraud, corruption, and graft that is absolutely inculcated into our three-letter agencies. FDA, CDC, NIH, but also the DOJ and the IRS and everywhere. We are living in the age of abject lying. And fraud, truly.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
It's unbelievable. But truly, you know, we are living in an area, I think you, I just did a talk about this, you know, in an era of lying where lying has become so commonplace. You are expected every day we are bombarded with things that simply aren't real. True. You know, the economy is booming. You know, your car causes climate change, but Bill Gates private jet doesn't.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
You know, the police are systemically racist. Men can have babies, whatever it is. It is so insane. When I was growing up and I will date myself, there were two really popular shows. both of them were predicated on the idea that reality itself was being manipulated. One was the twilight zone and the other one was called the outer limits.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
And they both had to do with, you know, do not touch your television set. We control the vertical. We control the horizontal. It was the idea that was what was so terrifying that there was some other force that was controlling reality. And I feel like we are now, we have entered the twilight zone. We have reached the outer limits. It is just, pure insanity.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
You touched at the very beginning, and I want to go back to it for a second. You're talking about how these things should have been pulled. In 1976, the swine flu vaccine was rolled out and it was pulled from the market after there were 50, five, zero associated deaths that were believed that could have been related to that vaccine. It was pulled.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
We're now at how many potentially associated deaths for the COVID vaccines?
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
No, I agree. It's very common to what I hear amongst people, whether it's at a cocktail party or just in passing, that, you know, the people who have been vaccinated, who I know have been vaccinated, are sick over and over and over again. Many of them have had COVID four and five and six times. But then they'll say to you, well, imagine how much worse it would be if I hadn't been vaccinated.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
I'm saying, well, you could be like me and never have had COVID at all if you weren't vaccinated. they just, they pull these numbers out. They are so, they've drunk the Kool-Aid and they absolutely won't look at the reality of what's happening around them. They are in the twilight zone.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
I also, then I want to touch back on the neurologic things you were saying that you believe we're going to see more of these neurologic complications. I agree with you because many of the neurologic complications from a medical perspective are autoimmune related, whether it's Multiple sclerosis, ALS, those sorts of things, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, have an autoimmune component to them.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
welcome back as i said i'm joined today by ed dowd ed is a former wall street analyst he was a portfolio manager at blackrock and most recently was is the founder of finance technologies he wrote a book called cause unknown the epidemic of sudden deaths in 2021 and 2022
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Furthermore, the people who are examining these very unusual blood clots, these kind of rubbery, white, extensively long blood clots, have found that those blood clots contain a protein called amyloid. For some reason, you're developing or laying down profoundly huge amounts of amyloid that make up these clots. Well, amyloid is what also lays down in the brain and causes Parkinson's.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Now, whether these things are related or not, no one has been able to prove, but I have a sneaking suspicion that you're going to see more of these neurologic issues because of the creation of some of these abnormal proteins. Let's face it, that's what the mRNA codes your body to do, is to create a spike protein, and then you create antibodies to it.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
But it's causing you to create a foreign protein. Never a good idea, wasn't a good idea from the beginning. I don't care, you know, your first... You know, your biology students should know this. You don't want your body creating massive amounts of a foreign protein. It's going to set off autoimmune diseases all day long. And I think that's what we're seeing. So any other thoughts?
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
I want to pivot to some things about the economy. Any other thoughts or anything else you'd like to get out to folks with regard to what you're seeing or what you're following next? What's next for you guys with regard to your data analysis?
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Give me a glimpse, if you can, on liver and skin. You're talking about liver and skin conditions?
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
I'll be particularly interested in the skin data because the reality is, again, from a medical perspective, other than melanoma, most skin cancers, certainly most malignancies, are not lethal. The vast majority are not. I think we've seen a change in that recently.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
We've seen a number of people, including some high-profile people, say a Jimmy Buffett, who passed away, we are told, from an aggressive skin cancer that was non-melanoma. Is that the sort of thing that you're seeing in this data?
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Fair enough. Okay, we'll look forward to that then. But unfortunately, I fear we are going to see, and as I said, I believe that with you, that neurologic, autoimmune, and cancer deaths and rates are the thing that we're going to see going forward, probably, tragically, for a good decade. Obviously, there are people...
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
And as I said in the intro, he has been, more than anyone else I know, the coordinator, the tabulator of data related to illness, injury, death, disability, these sorts of things, following the rollout of the vaccines. And while Ed is more circumspect than I with regard to saying what's the cause unknown, I know the answer. We can talk about that. So I'm going to bring Ed in.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Many people, including my colleagues, who are working feverishly to find things to detox from the spike protein. We're looking at things to sort of unwind this. How can we change the trajectory of this? Because it's really our challenge for the next decade.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
You know, until we pull the shots from the market and stop people from getting them entirely and stop producing new ones because they're constantly threatening that they're going to come up with one for RSV or we've got a, you know, mRNA shot for monkeypox. We've got one for bird flu. Now we're vaccinating the cattle and the chickens and the turkeys. You know, it is just stop.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
And again, this, you know, like Bobby Kennedy, this does not make me anti-vaccine. What it makes me is pro-science, pro-data, pro-safety, you know, and pro-sanity. Just stop until we get our arms around this. So until we do that, I don't think the hemorrhaging is going to stop. You know, you've had some posts recently and some interviews recently.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
You know, let's face it, you didn't start as a scientist. You didn't start as somebody looking at medical data. You started as an analyst, and you are brilliant, in my estimation, with regard to understanding trends and understanding sort of the economy and different levers here.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Talk a little bit about your thoughts about what Trump is inheriting, where the economy is, and what he needs to look out for.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
So you're saying that we fundamentally have been in a recession. They've just been, like everything else, covering it up with smoke and mirrors like they do with everything else.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
We're going to talk about the state of the data, as it were, on what are we seeing in the last year or so. Ed's been a guest previously on this show, so we've talked about some of this stuff in the past, but I want to see really where the trends are going and talk a little bit more in depth about what this means in terms of the ongoing trends that
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
So let's talk a little bit about – given what you're saying, and I believe that you are correct, and I certainly, like you, am very happy about Trump's efforts, his initiatives towards – whatever you want to call it, limiting government, the whole Doge thing, the Department of Government Efficiency. And between Elon and Vivek, I think that they will slash and really cut out a lot of the fat.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
relatively low carb and very low sugar. I'd love somebody to tell me the absolute number of grams of sugar in an entire pecan pie because I pretty much consumed my body weight in refined sugar over about a three day period. Anyway, the thing that saved me, Caleb, was that I stayed on my exercise routine. I continued to work out despite the fact that I was eating things I never eat.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
That's all awesome. But what you're saying is going to happen is it's going to be a contraction and the recession will be revealed. communication is the key to this. What, you know, if you were advising Trump or, you know, if you were in the cabinet, what would you be telling him to be saying? Because this is about getting out in front of this.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Otherwise he's going to get tarred with this and it's going to, you know, the left is going to have a field day and say, see, you know, his policies, you know, suck. And, you know, they've driven us down, you know, a financial disaster. What would you be advising him to be doing right now? You know, in, in, December.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Yeah, because it seems to me I'm hardly an economic expert, but I do understand leadership and communication. And it seems to me that what he really needs to be doing, what he, Trump, needs to be doing is tell people what's going to happen. When it happens, acknowledge this is what's happening.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
And then after you say, see, I told you that's what was going to happen so that you you lead them through it. You don't wait. You've got to get out in front of this and predict it. Acknowledge it when it happens. Acknowledge it once it's behind us. Say that's what this is exactly what we expected. You know, we aren't caught back on our heels. We have a plan for this.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
an increased all-cause mortality, decreased birth rates, those sorts of things. We're also going to talk a little bit about the Trump cabinet picks. Ed, nice to see you. Welcome back. I don't know, did you do what I did over Thanksgiving? Please tell me you did. Please tell me you totally fell off the wagon and ate everything you don't normally eat.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
He has to make it very much a plan. Otherwise, I think that the vast majority of the population, clearly, my feet have barely hit the ground since November 5th. I'm thrilled with the outcome.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
I was very, very concerned that they were going to steal this election and that we were going to end up in a disastrous situation, potentially, literally, not hyperbole, the end of our republic, I think, had Harris gotten elected. But many people, I think, believe that come January 20th, it's going to be all unicorns and balloons and it's going to be great.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
And I don't think that's necessarily what we're looking at for the reasons that you've said. And I think that Trump would do himself a big favor to get out and start talking about this ahead of time. what to anticipate, what to expect as a result of the shenanigans and the cooking of the books, as it were, that's gone on in the economy that he's inheriting.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Do you think that Elon and Vivek Ramaswamy can do what they've been tasked to do, not being in cabinet positions? Do you think they will have the teeth to be able to do what they need to do?
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Are there any people who you think who you personally would really like to see in the cabinet, whether it's on the financial side or DOJ, that are there particular people you've been waiting and hoping are going to get tapped to be in some position that you think could have an impact?
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Right. That's how I'm too. I'm staying out of the weeds on individual nominees at this point. It remains to be seen who else is going to get confirmed. I certainly hope that Bobby Kennedy will be confirmed because I think that that leadership position is a critical one and everything that goes down from there. So hopefully that will happen and we'll see where the other ones go. Thanks a ton.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
I can't wait. I'm really looking forward to this next report. You said that your next report's dropping on Friday?
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Oh, yeah, you're right. That is game theory. But yeah, for them to also decide, let's have a moment of honesty so that we can look good. Yeah. From your lips to God's ears, we shall see. Let's pray that President Trump stays healthy and well until January 20th. We are still in a really tenuous time from my perspective right now. Very bizarre things happening. have been happening in the world.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
And, uh, we want to make sure that we have no reason for civil unrest or martial law or any of the other things that could happen if, uh, if we had a crisis. So, uh, hoping that that's the case, uh, and looking forward to having you back, you know, this is, this is, we've got to do this on a regular basis, um, because you keep, you keep exposing and the most remarkable data and listen,
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
The data don't lie. As I said over and over again, you can disagree with me about how we interpret it. You can disagree with how we've analyzed it. But the numbers are the numbers.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Exactly. Well, thank you. Then I'll feel so guilty because I was really, really feeling weak for as somebody who I preach good health and good nutrition all the time. And I was not, I was exhibit A of exactly what you shouldn't do on a holiday, but I did it anyway. Anyway, so I'm back on it. Let's talk.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
And unless people want to come on here and give other credible explanations or plausible theories for what's causing this unprecedented increase in deaths and disability and disease rates, until then, I'll stick with my theory. So thanks again for joining us. We'll talk soon. Thank you, Dr. Kelly. Great to be here. Thank you. And then I've got here, whoops, what did I just do here?
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
I've got the upcoming shows here. Let's see. You got them up there? Thank you. December 5th, Elijah Schaefer and Janine Turner. And then December 10th, Justin Bateman. A show that I'm really looking forward to, December 12th, Matthias Desmet with Aaron Cariotti. Aaron's one of my favorite people. But Matthias Desmet, I think most people know, is the person who really coined the,
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term mass formation psychosis. He came up with an interesting theory about how it is that we ended up with the absolute insanity that defined the COVID pandemic. And then Justin Hart and Toby Rogers and Seth Dillon and Gad Saad should be really good lineup coming into the Christmas holiday. So thanks very much for joining us. Join me back on the no sugar, low carb bandwagon.
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And I will see you soon. Thanks.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
I don't want to get into specifics about any particular cabinet nominee in the new Trump administration, but I'd like to get your thoughts in general on directionally. where this is going, where it's teeing up. And I don't mind talking specifically about Robert Kennedy Jr., who both you and I know personally and have supported.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
welcome and thanks very much for joining us i'm dr kelly victory i'm filling in for dr drew today i'm delighted to be doing it he and susan are off i think in florida somewhere in the east coast doing another project so i'm filling in also happy week after thanksgiving i don't know about the rest of you but i am still recovering from fully falling off of my normally regimented diet of
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
So we can talk about him, but give me your thoughts just in general about where this is going and what you'd like to see.
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I certainly agree with you on that. I think to be very clear, Bobby Kennedy is extremely threatening to a lot of people on both sides of the aisle, and it's not for the reasons they say. They throw out pejoratives like, oh, he's anti-vaccine or anti-this, when the reality is what they're threatened by is the fact that they will lose their control, they will lose money.
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He is going to do things like you know, eliminate the ability for people at our three letter agencies to own parts of patents on drugs or therapeutics that they are in a position to foist on the American people. He's going to eliminate things like pharmaceutical advertising on television and those sorts of things. And that's clearly why they want to keep him out. Do you believe that given the the
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sort of the force, given the amount of energy behind this campaign. And I think it was a brilliant move for Trump to embrace and bring him in. Do you think that they can pull off keeping him out? Can they keep him from, I don't know enough about how the process works in the confirmation process to know, can they actually effectively keep him from being confirmed?
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
And now I am back on the wagon. So we've got that. I'm really happy to be joined today by one of my very favorite guests, Ed Dowd. It's hard for me to imagine that anyone who's watching this show or follows me doesn't know of Ed and the remarkable work that he has done for the past five years, really tabulating and coordinating, collecting data related to the pandemic.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Yeah, and Big Pharma is the biggest, most powerful lobby in all of Washington. They've given more money to political campaigns, again, on both sides of the aisle. There's probably a handful of senators who didn't take money over the years from Big Pharma to fund their campaigns. So I know that that's going to be really, really powerful. I don't know how it will all shake out.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
What about the idea of Trump making Bobby a recess appointment?
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Independent, I think that may be the way to go as well. Independent of the individual nominees, and some of them are a bit perplexing, I might throw it there, but independent of individuals, what are, in your mind, some of the top, I just rattled off a couple with regard to television advertising, for example, and the ownership of patents.
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What are the top initiatives that you think are important in these different agencies that need to happen, or what do you need to see? happen right out of the box to know that this is legit and that this campaign, that this new administration really is going to make good on their promises to the American people?
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
A hundred percent. Just to make sure that for anyone who's listening, what you're referencing when you say the 86 Act, you're talking about the Childhood Vaccine Injury Act that was passed in 1986 by Congress. And it was passed as an effort to incentivize vaccine manufacturers to be willing to create, to develop more vaccines for children.
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But in so doing, they granted to the vaccine manufacturers blanket liability protection. They cannot be sued. They have no exposure, which would be tantamount to saying, and I use this example all the time, I would not buy a baby car seat that said on the box, by the way, if your child is maimed or killed by a malfunction of this product, good luck to you because you can't sue them.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
They have no liability. I wouldn't buy that product. Why in the world would I allow somebody to inject my child with a product that fundamentally says the same. If your kid dies from this or is maimed or disabled for the rest of his or her life, you have no recourse. It's insanity. So I'm with you. That needs to be repealed.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
I also agree we need wholesale removal of the mRNA vaccines from the market, given the data. And we're going to get into the weeds again of what you've seen recently. But it is so egregious. It is so irrefutable to me, you know, what has gone on. Just another study came out today, a really well done study. report on the contamination of these mRNA shots. I don't know if you saw it with this SV40.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
We're going to be talking about quite a few things, including data around access deaths, but also we're going to chat a little bit about Trump's recent cabinet picks, as well as some of the financial and economic issues that are going to be at the beginning of the new Trump administration. So Ed's going to get us caught up on everything that he's been following.
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
That's DNA that in layman's terms, what we have now shown is that the BioNTech Pfizer mRNA shots are contaminated with DNA that promotes cancer as well as promotes antibiotic resistance. More than four times the allowable amounts of this is contaminating these. That by itself should cause these to be removed. So what's your stance on pharmaceutical advertising? Do you have thoughts about that?
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Dr. Kelly Victory & Ed Dowd: Trump’s Cabinet Nominations Endure MSM’s Trial By Fire – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 432
Yeah, Roger Ailes, the former CEO of Fox News, actually acknowledged that he wanted to get rid of pharmaceutical advertising on Fox. But at the time that he made the statement, it represented 70 percent of the advertising revenue for Fox News came from Big Pharma. And as you said, Ed, you know, they don't advertise because they think they can sell three more doses of Ozempic.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Well, let's talk a little bit more about this because I agree with you. I don't think there's anything probably more important than the effect that that pandemic and the response had on those three pillars. When you talk about faith, remember, Churches were shut down. Walmart was open. Churches were shut down. Liquor stores were open.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
You know, marijuana stores were open, but you couldn't go to church. You know, you couldn't gather and worship. And this included over major holidays. Families could not get together for, you know, for holidays. You couldn't go to a wedding or a funeral or celebrate a graduation. It drove a wedge through.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
I mean, I know that when you ask people, do you have, you know, were there friendships that you lost? even our family members, you know, relationships that were, you know, cloven in half as a result of what happened during the pandemic. I know it certainly happened for me. I have friends and family members with whom I've never really had the same relationship since the great divide over COVID.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
That's everything from measles and bird flu to whatever crisis du jour they want to lump up. So we're going to talk about that. So when I come back, I will formally introduce Dr. Diaz, my guest for today. We're going to talk about certainly a little bit about COVID, but more about the more recent issues with the measles outbreak, the bird flu,
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Either you either believed in masks or you didn't. You either believed in the vaccines or you didn't. And it was as polarizing as anything I've ever seen.
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Do you see, you know, you have a different, once again, a different lens. I am only here in the United States, and although I have colleagues around the world, I don't see, you know, you have traveled to so many different places. You just rattled off a handful of different countries you've been to in the last six months.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Are you seeing these same sorts of things in children in other countries, in India and Mexico and Romania and the UK?
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Yeah. They were. And so this is a good segue. Now, you and I both see it. I've talked about it for the better part of five years. So have you. You're prolific on Substack. You do lots of interviews. You and I are constantly trying to educate the public about what actually happened in an honest and open way. Here we go, fast forward. Let's talk about, you know, bird flu, the next one.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Don't you think there are an awful lot of similarities in terms of the way that they are, you know, once again, it's the fear porn, the panic, the, you know, we have to, you know, kill all the birds, you know, we've got to cull the flocks. They are doing things that are nonsensical from, in my estimation, from a scientific perspective. You know, do you agree with that?
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Yeah, to be clear, you and I know this, but for our audience, Bird flu, specifically we're talking about H5N1, has never been a significant risk to humans. It has only posed a risk previously to people who are in direct contact with infected birds or infected cattle. There has not been a single case of human-to-human transmission of bird flu in the United States.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
OK, all of that said, a couple of things. Number one, we know that they are doing gain of function research on this virus in labs in the United States with the stated purpose of making it more transmissible human to human.
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let's talk about that and gain a function but also you know they are doing things in terms supposedly in the name of safety and this is what harkens back to me it's right out of the covid playbook it's all about safety right so you know during covid it was masking and lockdowns and shutting down the schools and all of this insanity now it's killing millions of poultry birds
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
You know, you're shutting down farms, making them destroy all the eggs and remain closed for a matter of months. I mean, there's nothing scientific about this.
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issues and how that's being once again mismanaged by the people in authority and talk a little bit about just sort of medicine and healthcare in general and where we see that going. So after this break, I'll be back with Dr. Diaz.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
And so I guess here's the question. As an immunologist, you probably have better scientific background in this. As I mentioned, we know they're doing gain-of-function research on this virus, including at places like the USDA lab in Athens, Georgia, and in multiple academic laboratories, including the University of Wisconsin in Madison.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
They are manipulating H5N1, bird flu, in the laboratory to try to make it more transmissible. we are seeing some indication of some more virulent strains of it. We've had a few people who have supposedly died with bird flu. And the question is, is that by natural mutation? You know, you and I talked with Dr. Peter McCullough about this.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Is it natural mutation or is this once again because they manipulated this virus in a laboratory?
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Absolutely. I don't think that it's likely that the new variant that's causing more severe disease for bird flu, I think it's unlikely that it occurred by natural mutation. I think it likely was the result of lab manipulation. I didn't agree with much that happened during the Obama administration, but I did agree with the moratorium that was placed in 2014 on gain of function. It's very dangerous.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
You and I both know lab errors, lab mistakes aren't uncommon. It happens all the time. Lab leaks happen. So even if you wanted to say, hey, what happened in Wuhan with COVID? It wasn't released on purpose. It was just abject incompetence. Even if it was that, it's dangerous. I think it was, as you do, something more nefarious.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
And why in the world would you want to manipulate H5N1, bird flu, to make it more transmissible human to human? Why would somebody do that? It didn't pose a risk to humans before. Why would somebody do that? Do you have a theory?
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
And you just mentioned the most obvious thing, and I don't want to gloss over it, which is once again, just as with COVID, none of the people in the positions of public health are talking at this point about the things that we should be doing to be good stewards of our overall immune health. No one is talking about good nutrition, regular exercise, adequate sleep, stress mitigation. It's all
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you know, wait, you know, and if we're lucky, they'll come out with a new vaccine for bird flu or, you know, they'll kill all the birds and we can somehow eradicate it. You know, you as a pediatrician, what are the things that you are telling your patients?
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You know, how do you coach your patients clinically on a daily basis so that they have something other than, you know, bathing in Purell and waiting for a vaccine?
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Right. Well, you are more magnanimous than I. Indoctrination is probably the nicest word. We were lied to. We were lied to, unfortunately, in medical school. And the greatest existential crisis of my life was really coming to that realization that much of what we were taught in our training simply wasn't true. It was fed to us by Big Pharma.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Big Pharma overwhelmingly controls many of our academic institutions. They certainly control the once-storied medical journals like The Lancet and JAMA and BMJ, so that those publications are nothing more than the marketing arm for Big Pharma.
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We need to take an ad break, but when we come back, I want to talk a little bit more about that and then get into what's happening with measles and what's reality and what's fiction with regard to measles. So we'll come back after the break.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
There's nothing in medicine that doesn't boil down to a risk benefit calculation. It is the mandate of public health to consider the impact of any particular mitigation scheme on the entire population. This is uncharted territory, Drew. Welcome back.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
I'm thrilled to be joined here today with Dr. Alejandro Diaz, pediatric immunologist and allergist and the chief of pediatric medicine at the Wellness Company. Looking at that ad, Dr. Diaz, from the Wellness Company that just rolled, I am really proud of the kits that the company has put together. They really empower people to have on hand
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
the sorts of things that they would need to manage many, many different medical emergencies. We've realized, I think, during the pandemic, at least I did, that people are a lot smarter than we give them credit for. And if you give them things like antibiotics and antivirals and medications to treat burns and nausea and vomiting and those sorts of things, they won't just take them willy-nilly.
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They actually... But in order for them to be useful, they really have to have them in their possession before the crisis occurs. I know that we've got a new pediatric kit, the children's kit, you know, which includes a lot of different things that you probably use on a regular basis. But I'm very proud of these kits that we've made available.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
I agree with you. I agree. Right before the break, we were talking about the fact that we were misled, misguided, indoctrinated, lied to, whatever you want to say, during our extensive medical training. I think this is largely a result of the...
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
influence of big pharma and the tremendous amount of money that they wield in certainly in Washington, the fact that they control so much of the advertising dollars. The United States is one of only two countries in the world that allows pharmaceutical advertising on television, New Zealand being the other. the amount of influence that they have, and therefore they influence what we were taught.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
So great segue into measles. Everybody knows, hopefully, that the new crisis du jour now is the measles outbreak. We've had several. But I certainly was taught, and I can't assume you were as well, that the decrease in measles deaths and measles as a disease burden was the result of vaccines, of kids getting the MMR vaccine. And that's why, you know, measles isn't an issue anymore.
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And it's now the problem that people aren't getting vaccinated. And that's why we have this outbreak. So talk a little bit about that, the truth versus fiction.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Precisely. So just to recap, what you said is precisely correct. And this is not your opinion or my opinion. This is the data that appears on the CDC website. The reality is... From 1900 to 1960, the death rate from measles dropped by 98%. It was so low. Three years, and that was three years prior to the availability of the measles vaccine, which as you said, rolled out in 1963.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
So it did drop by 98%. Why? Because of better nutrition, better sanitation, clean water, better living conditions, all of the things that happened between 1900 and 1960. Prior, by the way, in the years prior to 1960, we had somewhere in the range of 400 to 500 deaths a year from measles.
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you know, tragic, but not anywhere near the number of deaths we have on an annual basis from say influenza or tuberculosis or in the rest of the world, you know, diarrheal diseases, those sorts of things. So it wasn't exactly a huge problem prior to 1960, but it had already dropped by 98% by the time the vaccine was rolled out.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
uh so now here we are we had not had uh we've got a quote outbreak right now we've had uh four outbreaks so far this year in the united states an outbreak is defined as more than three cases that are associated and we've had a couple of measles deaths um that have been reported uh but you and i both know we don't have an off there's an awful lot we don't know
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
about those measles cases, including the one child who died in Texas. Talk a little bit about that, what you know, I'll fill in any parts that I know about that death and whether or not you think it's significant.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
No, I agree. And I agree with you. And by the way, I don't think either of us are, quote, anti-vaccine. I certainly, prior to COVID, was considered to be a vaccine zealot. I had written prolifically on the importance of vaccination programs. I certainly believe very differently now based on the actual data and what we know. When I was growing up in the 60s,
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
You got between birth and age 18, depending on what state you lived in, you got anywhere between six and eight vaccines in that 18 year period. That number is now up to 78. And that does not include the six recommended COVID shots. So that would bring it to 84. So, you know, I am not an immunologist. You are.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
But I can certainly say as a physician that the human immune system was not meant to be flogged continually with immune challenge after immune challenge after immune challenge with these vaccines. And that's what we are doing.
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And I believe that it is being reflected in the disease processes that we are seeing, not only autism, but the massive increase in asthma and allergies, you know, eczema, psoriasis, all these autoimmune diseases.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
I think are likely related in one way or another to the fact that we are over vaccinating and we have been led to believe that we can vaccinate our way to good health as opposed to all of the other things that you and I have been talking about. What I was referencing with regard to this child who died in Texas is that we don't even know that that child died of measles.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
The child tested positive for measles, but it is unclear. It's my understanding that the child was admitted with RSV and was actually given the MMR, the measles vaccine immediately. in the hospital when the child came in ill with RSV and pneumonia.
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Talk a little bit, kind of in as much lay terms as you can, what the MMR is and why that might have caused the child to either test positive for measles or to actually contract measles.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Welcome back. You know, I thought I took a lot of supplements and I do. I take a pile of them, but I'm not sure that I've got Drew beaten. He takes more supplements, I think, than I do. I'm going to have to try that fatty. I think I need to get just one more I need to get on. Anyway, I'm super excited to introduce my guest today, Dr. Alejandro Diaz.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Well, first of all, I think what you're saying is spot on because you're putting it in perspective. Again, I agree. Any death is a tragedy, and my heart goes out to the parents of that child.
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But we have to put in perspective as physicians, if you put your public health hat on, we have the reality of the disease burden is that every year, in a particularly bad influenza year, which we've had many of them, 1957, 2002, 69, 2003, 2009, 2018, and this is a particularly brisk year this year, we can have as many as 30 to 50,000 deaths from influenza in the United States.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
okay so you have to i believe put things in perspective so that people people are prone to fear all the time after they've been primed with what happened with covid people as you said have ptsd and it isn't going to take much to push them over the edge So we are obligated as honest physicians to put things in perspective.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
It doesn't mean you are minimizing the tragedy of the loss of a child, but you are saying, look, we have got to say, what is really the real risk? I tell people, if you want to be afraid of something, be afraid of drug-resistant tuberculosis. That's something you want to be afraid of, okay? Exactly.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
No, and I think it is again, Dr. Harvey Reich, our colleague who's an epidemiologist from Yale, I asked him the other day, I said, you know, how many on average, how many deaths in the United States do we have per year as a result of complications from diabetes and from smoking and drug abuse? And it's over a million, over a million deaths a year from those things that are entirely preventable.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
type two diabetes, smoking, drug abuse. So I'm talking about things, you know, not cancers that you could say other things, but things that are 100% preventable. And so I think it's, we have to put things in perspective. Another thing I want to talk with you about and see what insights you have is when we talk about MMR, which is measles, mumps, rubella, that the combined vaccine.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Dr. Diaz is a pediatric allergist and immunologist with more than 30 years of clinical experience. He and I got to know each other really at the beginning of the pandemic and have worked together quite a bit since then. In addition to being an expert in pediatrics, he's an expert in biosecurity and in migration. He's been involved in the complex medical screenings required for migration.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
So the MMR vaccine that we give in the United States is not just for for measles. It's measles, mumps, rubella combined. And as I intimated, I have concerns that our problem with vaccination isn't just the total number, but it's the frequency and the kind of how the intervals in which we give them. Japan, I understand, got rid of, they outlawed the MMR, that combined vaccine in 1993.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
They still make the individual components, measles, mumps, rubella available, but not as the combined shot. Do you know much about that or do you know what impact, what caused them to do that and what has the impact been on their disease process?
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Well, that's exactly right. I think that you talked about the impact that COVID had on faith, family, and health. One of the things also that it did was tremendously undermine people's confidence in our profession and in public health because it has all been politicized. I think there's no question that it isn't just coincidence.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
that robert f kennedy jr gets in the office all of a sudden we're having a you know this outbreak of measles that's being hyped up we've got you know concerns about bird flu they're making sure that president trump can't make good on his promise to bring egg prices down because if you kill all the birds turns out that egg prices will go up uh and so you know they are making sure of it uh they being the people who are doing this unnecessary calling so yes i think it's highly political
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
And a lot has happened. Goodness, the first month and a half, whatever it is, of President Trump's new administration has been pretty exciting to watch. I certainly get up every day and turn on the news to see what has happened over the last 24 hours.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
And it's only platforms like this one and your efforts on things like your Substack and Speaking Out that we can try to return perspective, common sense, critical thinking, and those sorts of things to the public because I think people don't know what to believe or who to trust. And all I can say is, you know, look to the people who got it right during COVID.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
They're likely to lead you the right path during measles and bird flu. You've been posting a little bit on X recently on Twitter about things that are outside of the normal realm of just medicine, but about the tyrannical governments around the world. You posted recently about Romania, and I know you were in Romania, or it's my understanding that you're speaking there.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
I think these things are related. They might not look to be related on the surface, but using health crises to control the population, using fear to control the population. Talk a little bit about that.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
He's spoken at multiple countries. He's at the parliaments in dozens of countries. He's spoken at the White House. He's been a trusted advisor on issues related to biosecurity and to migration. He certainly, like me, was one of the early people sounding the alarm and raising the alarm flag with regard to the mRNA vaccines, quote unquote, for COVID.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
No, I agree with you. I think there's so much propaganda. It's so hard to know what is true. And when you start using infectious disease, which is as a cudgel to control people's behavior, to control what they do, whether they work, whether they travel, whether they get together, it is really, it is evil. It is the essence to me of evil.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
It is a very quick way to strip people of their civil liberties because people turn them over to you. It was so quick during COVID. I remember being so shocked at how quickly people were willing to get in line, to fall in line, to put that mask on, to stand six feet apart, even though it made no sense. And our own colleagues
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
People, you know, you and I sat next to in virology class are all of a sudden, you know, removing every other chair in their waiting room and all of this silliness, you know, our own profession kind of bought into it. We've got a few minutes left. Let's talk a little bit about that in terms of you have great insight.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
I think not only are you prescient in terms of what's coming next, but I think you have great insight perhaps because of your faith and your global experience in terms of, you our own profession and what drove them to buy into it. Because I would submit to you that none of this could have happened if it were not for the complicity of our own profession, people in medicine.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
If everyone had stood up like you and I did, if everyone had said the truth and said the emperor has no clothes, if we had said the scary part, this wouldn't have happened. What do you think has happened in medicine that has allowed our colleagues to buy into it?
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
I'm so glad you mentioned that. Maybe Caleb can throw that up there. Dr. Matthias Desmet, I believe, has been on the show with Drew in the past. We certainly have quoted him commonly. He's the person who I first became familiar with referencing Bethlehem. Mass Formation Psychosis and Mass Formation, That Psychology. But I have not read that book cover to cover. I would like to.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
I certainly saw the other fallacies with regard to the COVID pandemic. We're going to talk a little bit about that. And he currently is working along with myself and with Dr. Drew at the Wellness Company. Dr. Diaz is the Chief of Pediatric Medicine at the Wellness Company now, and we are certainly thrilled to have him there. He's been a great addition to our team.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
But I think, you know, go with this line of the theory behind the, you know, totalitarianism and the tactics. And certainly it played into, I believe, what happened with our profession. But go on from there.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
No, I think you are right. And I've said that myself many, many times. We have a disease care system, not a healthcare system. It's my understanding that in ancient Greece, actually, people paid their physicians when they were well and stopped paying when they got sick because it was a sign that you're not doing your job. We do the opposite.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Doctors only make money and hospitals certainly only make money when people are in their hospitals. And so we have an incentive to do things that are not necessarily in their best interest.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Not you and I personally, but the big system we know that 80% of all physicians are now employed by large hospital systems or hospital groups and insurance companies that don't necessarily have their best interests in mind.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Where do you see, we've got a couple of minutes left and I know your patients are anxiously waiting for you to get back to clinic, so I feel obligated to let you go back to what you actually do expertly every day, which is care for pediatric patients. But in the last couple of minutes, talk a little bit about what you would like to see. We've got multiple competing crises.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
We got bird flu and the impact it's having. We've got measles. We've got Robert Kennedy Jr. trying to attend to some other things on his radar, some far bigger issues, like addressing the food system and those sorts of things.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
What would you like to see happen in the next, say, 12 months with regard to where we're going with health and human services, where we're going with health care in the United States?
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
So without further ado, Dr. Diaz, so happy to have you here. I'm excited. I'm very excited.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
I appreciate it. People can see that you've got a stethoscope around your neck. We are pulling you out of your very, very busy allergy immunology clinic, and I so appreciate it. I know that you've carved this time out, so we'll try to definitely make the best of it. I've got lots I want to talk with you about.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
I share your hope and I appreciate those sentiments. I think the world of Robert Kennedy Jr., I think that he is absolutely sincere in his efforts. I think he wants to expose a lot of the fraud and corruption. I think he wants to get us back to the basics, return us to where we focus on health, not disease. And that certainly starts with our food system.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
He has not, you know, the terrible anti-vaxxer you know, crazy conspiracy theorists that they want to, you know, you to believe that he is, I think he is genuine. I think he's brilliantly smart. He's got a great background. He's fought big pharma in the past. He will fight for kids. Uh, he will fight for, um, for informed consent.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
He will fight for autonomy in healthcare, the things that, you know, the, the pillars of medical ethics upon which you and I, uh, trained and have based our practices. So, um, With that, I thank you so much for taking time away from your patients. Thank your patients for me, for us, for taking the time away.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
There's never enough I could go on for another hour, but I so appreciate you and I hope you'll join me again soon.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Sounds great. Talk soon. Thank you. I think we've got... That was great. As I said, I could go on and on with Dr. Diaz. We've got so many things to talk about. He is remarkable. He's been, as I said, all over the world. He has... spoken at the parliaments of many, many different countries. I never cease to be amazed whenever I talk to him.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
He's always saying, well, I just got back from Japan or I just got back from Brazil or I just got back from... He really has been tremendous, not only in his background and expertise in pediatrics, obviously, and allergy and immunology, but really his ability to understand the
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
you know, the pressures and the focus that the different things that these different countries are facing in their own realm. And certainly I appreciate his comments about what's happening in Romania, because I think this totalitarian movement is happening all around the world. Caleb, do we have the list of upcoming shows? I only know the one that I'm back for. I'm back on the tour.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Hi, and welcome to the show today. I'm Dr. Kelly Victory filling in for Dr. Drew, who's busy with some other items today. I'm always thrilled to be on this platform and able to have open, honest discussions with our guests, and many of whom are my colleagues in medicine. Before I introduce my guest today, who is Dr. Alejandro Diaz, it's been a while since I've been on the show
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
That's the one that's on my calendar. But you've got a great lineup. Simone Gold coming up on the 18th. And Tom Renz, one of my favorite people, attorney Tom Renz. He's done remarkable work fighting for people who were injured during the COVID debacle. And then obviously Dr. Rahm is there with Sabine Hazan. So some great shows coming up.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
I know that I will be back with Drew, as I said, on the 20th. I think it's just the two of us. I don't think we have any other guests, and that's great so that Drew and I will have a chance to catch up on air. Until then, thank you all. I appreciate this, and you know where to find me on Twitter. That's my only social media presence is on Twitter, at DrKellyVictory, so you can find me there.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
As I mentioned just in the introduction, you and I got to know each other really because of the COVID pandemic. We were very much singing from the same song sheet, if you will, with regard to everything from concerns about the mRNA to the lockdown and the harms happening to children. But I'd like, and I don't want to spend much of this hour talking about COVID.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Thanks.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
I think many people, including I, sort of have COVID fatigue. But that said, I'd like, you do bring a different lens to this. And I'd like you to spend a couple of minutes
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Laying out from your perspective, from your purview, what it was like at the beginning as a pediatrician, as an immunologist, as a Latino, what are the sorts of things really, because you do have a different viewpoint of it or had a different perspective at the beginning, and what sort of led you to know early on that something was amiss?
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
And somebody said to me just recently that what's going on with this whole Doge thing is really more theater, that even if Elon Musk rids or exposes hundreds of millions of dollars in fraud and corruption, it's only a drop in the bucket. But it seems to me that even if it is symbolic, it's a pretty important symbolic measure because it is sending the shot across the bow, if you will,
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Well, as you refer to it as an operation rather than just a pandemic, explain a little further what you mean. Why do you call it the COVID operation?
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Amen. And that's why we have to get that on the table. We have to talk openly and honestly about that. That is not a conspiracy theory any longer. The things that you and I were derided for, lambasted for, censored, threatened, ridiculed, they have all come to be proven now.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Everything from the fallacy of wearing masks to the fallacy of asymptomatic spread, and then certainly the safety and efficacy of the, quote, mRNA vaccines. We know that the harms have been tremendous. I said from the beginning, and it still really pains me, the damage that was done to children of all of the groups who really suffered from
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
because of this pandemic or this incident, this operation, if you wanna call it, we're children. And certainly I think it will take decades for us to really understand just how much damage was done. And by that, I don't just mean by the mRNA shots, I mean by the whole thing, the lockdowns, the mask wearing, the social isolation, all of those things.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Talk a little bit about, you know, you see children every day. You're a very busy clinician. What sorts of things are you seeing today that you would say are potentially related to what happened during the five-year COVID debacle?
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
that this new administration is not interested in funding fraud. They're not going to continue with the insanity that we've been exposed to. And certainly the COVID insanity was part of that. Robert Kennedy Jr., I'm thrilled to say was obviously confirmed. He's been busy putting out fires that left keep throwing his way. And certainly Dr. Diaz and I'm sure we'll get into that
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Exactly, and so when you and I talk about, I talk about this damage done to the immune system, I don't mean just by the mRNA shots, and they certainly did, and we could do an entire show on the ill effects of the mRNA shots, but it's things like, locking people indoors, limited exposure to natural sunlight, limited exposure to other pathogens.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
We were not meant to bathe in Purell and stay in a bubble and not be exposed to things because it does damage your immune system. Not having regular exercise. It turns out when you close the parks and the swimming pool and the beaches, people don't get out, they didn't exercise. People's diets went to hell during the pandemic.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
You know, everyone's ordering DoorDash and eating pizza and Pringles and sitting on the sofa. So it was a multi and let us not forget, you know, overwhelming stress. The impact that stress has, you know, which includes the stress imposed by social isolation. All of these things together, I think, really have damaged people's immune system.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
And when you look at the incidents right now, and you see it, I'm sure, every day of respiratory illnesses, the influenza cases this year, lots of things. We have seen a lot of disease burden, infectious disease burden, independent of the things we're about to start talking about with regard to measles and bird flu. So people are going into this with weakened immune systems.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Can Texas Measles & Bird Flu Mutation Really Be Blamed On Anti-Vaxxers? w/ Pediatric Expert Dr. Alejandro Diaz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 465
Let's talk about that.
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Here it is.
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Dr. Peter McCullough: RFK Jr. Faces Senate Hearing Circus, As 81,000 Doctors & Experts Publish New Demand For COVID-19 Vaccine Recall – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 450
Who? Me?
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Dr. Peter McCullough: RFK Jr. Faces Senate Hearing Circus, As 81,000 Doctors & Experts Publish New Demand For COVID-19 Vaccine Recall – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 450
I don't think any of them want to give me money, by the way.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
And if you need to hire a consultant, I'm available. I can help you come up with a disaster plan that is in place so that we mitigate the risk when it happens and stop acting like a deer in the headlights. Are these elected officials or appointed officials or whatever the heck they are, officials have rights?
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
totally abdicated their responsibility to the people whose lives and livelihoods and property they were tasked to protect.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
Well, I would like to ask your permission to steal your quote. It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark. That is one of the greatest quotes I've ever heard. I don't know if you invented that or if you're quoting somebody else, but it will not leave me soon.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
No, it is something that I've used as a teaching point when I teach classes on disaster preparedness and response. This is something that you need to have thought ahead of time. And as I said, I'm very biblically based, and so it comes in handy.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
It's a vivid way of describing the shortfalls. Yeah, I'm mortified by the lack of forestry management, which used to be intense. I used to watch it behind us in the hills here. And it just stopped in the 80s. I remember when it first stopped, it stopped because it was interfering with the migratory patterns of a mouse.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
And then multiple other environmental groups got involved and stopped everything. And it's like, and by the way, if you actually, Bernie Sanders, this message is for you. If you are actually interested in climate change, All the benefits of all the CO2 reduction that this state has taken since 2003 was completely wiped away by this fire.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
And if you just measure the CO2 emitted between 2020 and 2024, it wipes away all the progress on CO2 emissions times two. So it should be your number one. If you're actually interested in climate change and CO2 emission, your numero uno priority should be managing these fires, period. But it's not very interesting, isn't it?
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
No, exactly. And this is, once again, how can you be caught back on your heels? Can you imagine Ron DeSantis saying, who knew we were going to have hurricanes in August? Who the heck would have thought of that? Exactly right. Okay. This is not, the Santa Ana winds, this is not an anomaly. These are predictable events. We know this. and there's a way to prepare for it.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
This comes out of, believe it or not, dolphin research. The Navy maintains a fleet of dolphins, and a brilliant veterinarian recognized that these dolphins sometimes developed a syndrome identical to our Alzheimer's disease. Those dolphins were deficient in a particular fatty acid. She replaced the fatty acid and they didn't get the Alzheimer's. Humans have the same issue.
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Donald Trump himself, love him or hate him, was on record saying, look, you have got to clean up and manage these forest floors. You've got to remove these ready sources of fuel because all it's going to take is a single match or a lightning strike or a cigarette butt, and this thing is going to go up absolutely in flames. And so these are things, it makes me angry because it's one thing,
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There are emergencies. There are things that are unpredictable. There are things that happen for which we cannot practice or plan. But when you have something like fire season, hurricane season, big events where you're going to have hundreds of thousands of people in the street, the Super Bowl.
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There are ways that we know are tried and true and that will mitigate the risks that are inherent in those situations. And I am angry for the people of Los Angeles that their officials didn't take those precautions.
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And the state. The state were a big part of this. So we're going to talk to Harry Fisher in a second. And Harry's been reporting from the field what he's been seeing, particularly he's had grave concerns about vaccine reactions. We haven't talked about vaccines, you and I, in a little while. What's your current sort of assessment of the state of things? And by the way, I want to also point out
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I don't know if you saw Joe Rogan's interview with Mark Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg now is on the record saying that the Biden administration called him, called his company, and berated them verbally, yelled at them until they went after taking down Information that he says, quote, was true, meaning they must have known it was true. So the idea of censorship is no longer something that can be debated.
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We have the Twitter files. We have Facebook now on the record. We have the FOIA documents. We were all censored by these MFers. Now, now let's try to figure out what was going on. What's your current assessment?
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Well, 100%. With regard to Mark Zuckerberg, you know, I wish I thought that he truly had a burning Bush sign, but I think he's really, this is more CYA. He wants to be on the record saying, oh, it wasn't our fault. You know, whether or not he actually has seen the light, I don't know. There's no question that everything was censored.
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My viewpoint on the shots, the mRNA shots, is that the data simply keep building and building. They are irrefutable data. that these shots are neither safe nor effective. We have only seen, unfortunately, the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the cancers that are being caused by these shots.
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We certainly know, and it's well acknowledged, the cardiac risks, the damage to the immune system, the autoimmune things that have occurred as a result. And the real tragedy with this, Drew, is that the vast majority of the people who've been injured are young, healthy people, people who were under the age of 50, who had fundamentally zero risk from COVID itself. They all got COVID.
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96%, 98% of the population has documented and well-known that they had COVID, okay? These are people who would have done fine if they'd just been left alone. But instead, they were maimed, many of them against their better judgment, against their best interest. They had to do it to keep their jobs, to go to school, to whatever it is. And so they were harmed.
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And we are more deficient in this particular fatty acid than ever before. And a simple replacement of this fatty acid called C15 will help us prevent these syndromes. It's published in a recent journal called Metabolites. It's a new nutritional C15, pentadecanoic acid, it's called. The deficiency that we are developing for C15 creates something called the cellular fragility syndrome.
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And they were harmed knowingly because we also have the receipts based in part by aggressive FOIA requests. that the pharmaceutical companies knew damn well, and they knew it ahead of time, and they lied about it. They hid the information. The FDA was complicit in hiding the information. That's why they tried to keep it suppressed for 75 years, you might recall.
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Pfizer was aware that a child died during the very limited trials. Moderna was well aware that these shots went to every single organ system within a matter of hours, that it didn't stay in the deltoid muscle, as you were told over and over again.
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All that said, despite the overwhelming evidence, and you and I have had multiple conversations with our friend Ed Dowd, who's done a brilliant job of exposing all of the harms, the deaths, the injuries, despite all of that, They're doubling down. There's already an mRNA injection at the ready for bird flu. They've got one for RSV. They've got one for influenza.
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And they are absolutely on the fear porn right now talking about human metapneumovirus that's running through China, which is a big nothing again. The bird flu, which has never been a problem for people other than those in direct contact with infected animals, cattle or birds.
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OK, but they're pushing the idea that we should all be worried about bird flu and you get better, get your, you know, be ready to get your vaccine. Gavin Newsom in, you know, declared a proactive state of emergency in the state of California. I don't know what the hell that is. I'm a I'm a disaster management specialist. I don't even know what a proactive state of emergency is.
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But apparently Gavin Newsom does. And he did it on the basis of the fact that one person was significantly ill with bird flu in the state of Louisiana. That person has now recently passed away. But we have a paucity of information, Drew, about what the guy actually died from. We don't know that he died from the virus. He may have died from diabetes or a heart attack.
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You can rest assured he didn't die of the virus, because if he did, we would know that. We don't know it. It tells you everything you need to know. They hide stuff like that. But the other thing that we're going to switch gears, I'm going to take a break here. We have Harry Fisher coming in to talk more about what he's been managing about some of the stuff he's seeing in the field.
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You mentioned cardiac events. I've been ruminating. I'm going to have you just come out of this before I go to break. I've been ruminating a lot lately about something Freiman picked out of the original Pfizer studies. I'm going to frame this because it's what Harry is going to be reports on, which is what happens within the first two weeks of taking this vaccine.
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That's when most of the serious adverse effects of vaccines occur. And if I remember right, or if I'm getting what Freiman picked out of the Pfizer study, They left out of the study anyone they lost to follow up in those first two weeks of study, which you lose people to follow up when they die.
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Correct. Joseph Ryman picked up in the study and it's very clear. They didn't consider somebody to be fully vaccinated until they were 14 days following the vaccine. So as you said, they essentially didn't look at those people. They didn't even consider them as vaccinated. They're saying, well,
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Yeah, you had the shot 10 days ago, so you're not vaccinated, so we don't need to look at what's happening with you. And that's when all the bad things happen. That's when the vast majority of people who were having those really profound, you know, sudden cardiac deaths happen, a lot of them.
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I think Peter McCullough has also reported that it happens in the first three days for the vast majority of people and then in the ensuing 11 days. So those first 14 days were critical. So again, it's a way of manipulating the data. It was a way of downplaying it. They knew exactly what they were doing. Believe me, if everybody did swimmingly, they would have reported that.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
But instead, they changed the guidelines specifically to keep that information hidden from the public. to keep it hidden from the CDC and the FDA and those people who they wanted to promote the vaccines, quote unquote vaccines.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
So we will bring Harry Fisher in here after the break to discuss exactly that, what he has seen in the field, assuming that those are mostly what he was seeing, but there are probably many other things too. You mentioned stroke and other things. You can follow Kelly, D.R. Kelly-Victory, Dr. Kelly-Victory on X, and Toxic Shot is her book.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
All right, in addition to Dr. Victory back with us, we have Harry Fisher. As I said, Harry is an emergency response specialist. He's an EMT. Let me get his nationally registered paramedic, NRP. A lot of experience out in the field. His work has spanned Oklahoma, New York, New York City, North Dakota, Alaska. Again, Harry Fisher at EM. I'm going to make sure I get it right.
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She's a board-certified trauma and emergency specialist, 30 years of experience, a CMO for the Whole Health Management Company, delivering on-site healthcare services. And she is in a Bachelor of Science from Duke and an MD from University of North Carolina. You can follow her on DRKellyVictory on X. And then Harry Fisher joins us as well. Toxic Shot is the book that Kelly contributed to.
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TP on X. Kelly, of course, as well. Harry, welcome to the program.
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And just for the new year, frankly, you should be taking this supplement. The cellular fragility thing is a real thing. It was by some very significant longevity experts pointed out to be one of the most significant breakthroughs of 2024. I swear by it. I take it. I've taken it for a while. I saw the research on this coming and it bore itself out.
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So what has, you know, you heard the, yeah, you've heard the conversation that Dr. Victor and I were having. And I wonder if you have any response to some of our observations and what your sort of update is since we last spoke to you.
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No, you're 100% right, Harry. And I don't mean to imply that you're out of the woods after that two weeks, because that is not the case, particularly when it comes to things like these clots that you're seeing, those really fibrous, white, totally unusual clots, strokes, and clearly even the sudden cardiac deaths, those sorts of things are happening weeks and years out.
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The scary thing to me is these cancers, because cancer lags. It takes a while for the cancers to develop. And like you, I am seeing horrific numbers of what people are calling turbo cancers. And what we mean by that is people who are stage four metastatic cancer at the time of initial diagnosis. In other words, they come in, they've got a polyp that gets found on colonoscopy.
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And it's already spread to their liver. You know, they already have liver and bone mets. I have three people in my own tight circle who were diagnosed with pancreatic cancer stage four at the time of diagnosis, already wildly metastatic. I mean, and we're seeing a lot of that. And so, yeah, I didn't mean to imply that you're out of the woods after two weeks.
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So please take advantage of that and get the prescription. You should just be on this and that's that. So Harry Fisher will join us in a few minutes. He, again, is a paramedic who has been reporting about what he's been seeing in the field. But before we talk to Harry, we're going to talk to our friend, Dr. Kelly Victory. He really needs no introduction on this show.
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It's just that they ignored that uptick in order to falsify their numbers. Yeah.
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You know, let me follow up on that for a second here. You made a comment that's interesting. Do you feel in your circle, the people who you see on a daily basis in your work area, that people are recognizing that this is vaccine-related?
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Or, you know, what percentage of people do you think still have their head in the sand or have cognitive dissonance or just can't acknowledge that this is maybe vaccine-related? Yeah.
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I agree with you, Harry. I mean, that's the pushback that I get from a lot of my colleagues. They say, well, how can I help people, Kelly? How much help will I be to somebody if I lose my job at this hospital? If I, you know, if I lose my medical license or I get sanctioned, how much, you know, then I won't be able to help anybody. So I stay silent so that I, and I think it's a cop out.
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Kelly, am I remembering correctly, have you not been on since you joined TWC?
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I really do. Because as you said, if everybody did, if everybody banded together and had the guts that you've had, that I've had to speak out, if everybody said, no, not doing it, not giving the shots, you know, you can, you could, they can't fire everybody. They can't fire everybody. They can't function without us. And the problem is the reason they've been successful is because they isolate you.
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They peel you off. They use you as an example. And then your other 10 colleagues are afraid to say anything because they've made a spectacle out of you. They cancel me. They threaten me. And therefore, the 10 people around me say, oh, crap, I don't want them to do to me what they did to Victory. So I'll keep my mouth shut.
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When instead, if everybody grew a backbone, I'd say, if you don't have a backbone, go on Amazon and see if you can buy one because we need people to kind of buck up and stand up. And so I agree. That's been a frustration for me that people have used that cop out.
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Oh, no, no. I've been on. In fact, that clip you were showing from last year, from July, was well after I came on with those guys.
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How many calls do you respond to? I'm sure it depends on what community you happen to be in, but ones that you would say are reproductive related. In other words, women who are either pregnant, who are miscarrying or pregnant, are bleeding or delivering prematurely. Did you see a bunch of things that were pregnancy related?
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That's what I was thinking. No, I know you've filled in a couple times, but I don't remember that you and I have been on together. But what I wanted to ask was, how has the TWC experience been for you? It's been sort of exceptional for me. And it was even borne out further, I don't know if you're aware, this week.
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I can't tell you with certainty, I cannot speak with authority that it was a depopulation attempt, that that's why it was crafted. But I sure as heck can tell you what the results have been. And we have seen significant decreases in birth rates around the world. The United States is down somewhere between 6% and 7%. Most of Western Europe is down between 7% and 9%.
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Certain places like Taiwan are down 26%. I mean, these are really globe changing numbers. So we are seeing the impact of it for sure. And there are lots of mechanisms by which these mRNA shots interrupt pregnancy, the ability to both get pregnant and then to carry a pregnancy to term. And yes, Dr. Thorpe, Jim Thorpe is a colleague of Dr.
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Drew's and mine at the wellness company, we've talked about this a lot, the impact on pregnancy. So whether or not it was actually an overt effort to decrease the population, I have my own thoughts about it, like you do. I can't say that with authority, but I sure as heck can tell you what the results have been.
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Part of it for me, I think, go ahead. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
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Finish your thought, Kelly. I've got some thoughts.
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And Drew, you should weigh in on this. One of the things that I think has happened is that many people cannot get their arms around the idea that this level of evil could exist. I'm one of those people.
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I can't do it. I can't do it. Right. I can't go there. I'm letting you guys go there, but I can't get my head around it.
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And I think that that's part of the problem is that you just, so then you look and I'd say, okay, I would submit to people and say, I hate to tell you that it's real. You know, look at what's happening in the UK right now as a little tangent, you know, for years. Over a million little girls have been abducted and raped and sold into sex slavery and prostitution by bands of Pakistani immigrants.
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Because Foster, the founder of Wellness Company's family, runs the air support, all the water drops. When you hear that there's a Canadian company from British Columbia doing the drops on the fires here, it's his company. And we kept in touch with him during all this. It was very reassuring to sort of have him and his dad's take on what was happening here in Los Angeles.
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OK, it is now well known. And it turns out that the police did nothing about it because they didn't want to be labeled as racists. The media wouldn't cover it because they didn't want to be labeled as racists. Regardless, that level of evil does exist in the world, as horrific as that is.
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And so I don't believe for a minute that what Harry's talking about, that for the almighty dollar or for control or to foster an agenda because you think you're bigger than God and better than God and know more than God about how many people should be on this planet, that you manipulate things.
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I, unfortunately, I don't want to acknowledge this error, but to not acknowledge it, you do it at your peril.
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Well, I have no doubt of ignorance or a belief that you do. Social evil always is done in the name of doing good. You know what I'm saying? These people, but that's usually the way social evil gets done. And the Tuskegee experiment was like, well, we're going to prevent people from having syphilis. These guys are going to get it. What's the big deal?
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You know, it's like they thought they were doing good, but they were deluded. And in that deluded state, they were evil. Just straight out evil. If Nazis thought they were doing good, Mao thought he was, these people think they're doing what's, I'm doing good for humanity. No, the always, if you want, beware, beware the do-gooder because those, that is how evil is perpetrated.
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Look, the prison guards thought they were doing good in Nazi Germany. The people that yelled at their neighbors for having gatherings at Thanksgiving during COVID-19 thought they were doing good. The fact is that is all evil. I totally agree with you guys. But don't look for a mustache twirling individual necessarily at the top. It's a wolf in sheep's clothing oftentimes that commits social evil.
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Kelly, you agree with me?
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A hundred percent. And to Harry's point and to yours, Drew, COVID was not the first time in history when physicians were employed to perpetrate that evil. And I'm not just talking about what happened in the Third Reich in Nazi Germany. I'm talking about things like the Tuskegee experiment, like the MK Ultra experiment, you know,
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screwing with people's brains to see if we could make them, you know, that's something that the Department of Defense did. They screwed with people's brains with antipsychotic medications.
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It wasn't just the, again, as people think of MKUltra, they're going towards mustache twirling. At that Kentucky Institute, they invented the disease model of addiction and invented some of the current treatments we use for opiate addiction. Right. And they were giving people hallucinogenics in huge doses and changing their lives forever. Ruining their brains. Ruining their brains.
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In the name of good. Right. And physicians were doing that. So these same people, fast forward 2025, people who are doing gain of function research in this country. I'm not talking about Wuhan, China. I'm talking about the USDA lab in Athens, Georgia.
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I'm talking about the University of Texas in Galveston and the University of Wisconsin in Madison, places where they are manipulating H5N1 to make it more transmissible between people, something it wouldn't do if left to its own devices. And they're doing it under, as you said, Drew, the guise of
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All right, so we're going to get into it today. Dr. Kelly Victor comes back with us. You guys have been asking when Dr. Victory is going to rejoin us. Well, this is that moment, and we are delighted to have her back. As you know, Dr. Victory is the chief of disaster and emergency medicine at the Wellness Company.
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Well, I've really enjoyed it so far. This is certainly in my wheelhouse. Health and wellness is certainly a core interest of mine and a core area that I've built a lot of my career around. I'm a trauma and emergency physician. But I spent years managing health and wellness for Fortune 100 companies and their employees, hundreds of thousands of people. So I love what the wellness company is doing.
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oh, we need to see what would happen so we can develop a vaccine, so we know what the treatment should be. They never say it's so that we can exterminate humanity and create pain and suffering. They always say it's under the guise of doing something good. But we have got to stop this. We've got to call people on it and say, no, you are obligated to consider
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The worst possible case scenario, what could happen? How could this go sideways? And it all boils down to lack of informed consent.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
Well, let me answer. I think that's a critical issue. I think it already exists, Harry. What I've been pushing is to go back to the four pillars of medical ethics. Those pillars, autonomy, justice, those non-maleficence, beneficence, those four pillars exist for a reason. The problem is We haven't been adhering to them. No one has held anybody accountable.
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So the first pillar, the first pillar of medical ethics is autonomy, meaning you have the right to participate or not participate in anything.
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particular intervention treatment therapy and that begins with informed consent these things are all there they've been codified but your average physician under the age of 50 has probably never even heard of those four pillars they don't even teach it anymore and that's purposeful because if doctors don't know about if you don't even know what the pillars of medical ethics are you sure as hell can't follow them
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And they don't even teach it anymore in medical school. So I would submit that if I were queen or surgeon general, I would absolutely say we are going to return to the basics. Here are the four pillars. I'd rather if you learn nothing else in medical school, you better learn those and you better adhere to them and we better start practicing to them.
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And people need to start demanding that their physician knows what those pillars are and makes a commitment Absolutely, to follow them.
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And Harry, but to your point, Harry, some something taking the teeth out of the public health system at the state level needs to be undone. Something's very, very wrong there. And from an operational or institutional or legislative standpoint, you're right, there's something wrong there. I only have a little bit of time left. I want to back off a little bit and let's just...
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I want to, you know, tell you my observations and have you guys react to them. Because you know me, Kelly, I'm still like always in this sort of weird contemplative state based on my clinical experience. And I am absolutely mortified by the mandates. I am mortified that young people were getting these vaccines that didn't need it. I'm just, you know, I'm with you guys all the way on that stuff.
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But elderly patients, I do feel like we accomplished something with some of the vaccinating programs, some of it. I have not seen much in the way of side effect from it. And again, if cancer is one of the downstream effects, I mean, elderly people's immune function is already kind of not great. And I've just not seen anything out of the ordinary.
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So it might not be affecting things the way it would in a healthy immune system that's taken down. You know what I'm saying? I did have one serious adverse reaction in a 100-year-old. She had atrial fib and was getting into failure and refused to go to the hospital the way 100-year-olds do. And I had to manage the whole thing as an outpatient. She made it through, made a VAERS report.
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Of course, VAERS, thank you. And then nothing. Made a follow-up, thank you, nothing. Follow-up, nothing. Okay, they must have had a guy look at it and decided it wasn't related to the vaccine, even though 30 minutes after she got the vaccine, she was in atrial fib. But my question is this. I'm thinking about Asim Malhotra and some of the observations he's had about coronary disease.
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I think it's not only providing these kits that we were talking about earlier that allow people to be free from the shackles of the system. in a time of crisis, you don't always have to be trying to find an urgent care or an emergency department for the simple things, bladder infections, bronchitis, upper respiratory infections.
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And I've seen some of this too now, where this extraordinarily rapid development of one vessel disease, highly advanced, just weird things I've never seen before in terms of how coronary disease is manifesting and developing. My own case, I have, you know, I'm on lipid-lowering agents. I've been forever. I had 0.0.0 calcium scores forever, forever, forever.
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One year after vaccine and COVID, suddenly I have a distal LAD lesion. Okay. So the question is, and I've seen things like this repeatedly, and the question I have in every one of these cases, including my own, is how do I tell? Mind you, I didn't have an mRNA vaccine. I had the J&J. How do I tell what's COVID? And this is something you and I used to talk about a couple of years ago.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
How do I tell what is COVID and what is vaccine? I can't. At very minimum, I can say it's spike. I guarantee you it is spike. And so why are we using a vaccine that's still all about spike? Why not a whole viral vaccine? Why not nucleocapsid? Why are we throwing more spike at the coronary, lining the coronary arteries? Kelly, what do you say to all those questions?
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Well, there's no way to definitively prove what would cause your particular cardiac lesion. However, I would suggest that you would benefit from knowing what your spike protein levels are and what your antibody levels are with that assay that Dr. Peter McCullough uses. Because as you know, when you get COVID, the virus,
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You have spike protein in your body only as long as you have the virus in your body, which is a matter of days, weeks. Okay. Once you eliminate the virus, you eliminate the spikes with it. So I got COVID. I had COVID for probably five days, and the spikes went as I eliminated the virus. That is in contradistinction to when you get, quote, vaccinated. You have now given every cell.
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I had the whole viral, though. I didn't have an mRNA vaccine. I had a J&J.
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But didn't you get a booster? There's no J&J booster.
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No, no, no, no boosters. Nothing. I got the one. I got one vaccine. Susan got all that. I had a horrible reaction. There is my reaction. I had a raccoon's eye in the morning after vaccination, and I felt like hell. And that is the presenting feature of the thrombotic thrombocytopenia purpura complication of transverse sinus thrombosis, which I thought, oh, here I go. But it went away.
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Then there's no reason to believe it. Then there's no reason to believe it. This for me, that this is ongoing spike issue because you should not be creating spike. So you should get your spike levels checked. And if you in fact, your spike levels should be zero. You should have, but I would get that checked.
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I think a couple of things you were intimating about the elderly patients, and I'd be interested in what, Harry, what you've seen in terms of what you consider might be vaccine-related adverse events from the elderly. As you know, my mantra in medicine is that everything boils down to a risk-benefit ratio.
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The common things.
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calculation, given that it was the elderly who were the only people who were really at significant risk from COVID in the first place, you could have convinced me very early on, meaning in the first, you know, weeks that, you know, if I, my parents were living, for example, I might've suggested they get the shot because they'd say, look, we don't know anything about the shot. It's experimental.
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The very common things, exactly, that the average person with the assistance of the guidebook and a telemedicine visit, for example, can handle on their own without having to go to the emergency department. More importantly, I think, is what you just were talking about, the idea of getting the supplements, the things that we have learned
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It's brand new. We can't, I can't say it's safe.
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You would give her that kind of consent, right?
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But given you're 94 years old and infirm, if you get this virus, it could be really nasty. And I think it's worth the risk. That's informed consent. But let me hand it to you for a minute here, Harry, because I want to hear what your thoughts are on the elderly.
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No, you are spot on. That's what I started with. The data are irrefutable. We don't need more data. We have all the data we need. These shots should have been pulled from the market within the first 30 days. They should have been pulled by February 1st of 2021. We already had enough.
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And if you look at historically, you know, other vaccines go back to 1976 when the swine flu vaccine was rolled out. It was pulled from the market after there were 50, five zero associated adverse events. It was pulled from the market. They said, oh, this is a problem. You know, in the first month, we had thousands of associated adverse events from these shots.
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And yet here we are, as Harry said, we're in January of 2025. And you still have Leanna Wen on CNN talking about get your booster. Have you lost your mind? I mean, when's the last time you heard of somebody getting hospitalized or even needing to go to the doctor because of COVID? I mean, seriously, it is tantamount to the common cold, yet they are still pushing these shots.
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And I think that people are now recognizing more than ever, they need to take control of their own lives. People need to take control of your own health and wellness. This is not something that you can just farm out to the biopharmaceutical complex and say, you know, tell me what drug I need, doctor. So the idea of supplementing things, whether it's fatty acids or vitamins or
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It is absolutely unconscionable. I don't understand it. And at the risk of never, ever having Bobby Kennedy speak to me again, I will go on record and say that part of the problem, I believe, is that Donald Trump has refused to even give tacit acknowledgement that maybe these vaccines weren't everything they were cracked up to be. Maybe they weren't actually beautiful.
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Maybe they didn't actually save millions of lives. And maybe he was misled. I have said over and over again on this platform and others, there are ways for him to message that and say, look, I was misguided. I'm not a scientist. I'm not a doctor. I'm not an epidemiologist. I had no reason personally to understand this.
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And unfortunately, I was surrounded by some people who gave me very bad direction and advice. But if he won't even intimate that, if he still keeps saying what a great thing they were, it's going to be tough.
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Well, guys, we're going to have to wrap this up right here. Harry, I'm going to, first, I'm going to say goodbye to you. Follow Harry, Harry Fisher, E-M-T-P on X. And hopefully we can talk to you again soon. I hope your work gets reinstated and it's satisfying work for you. Thank you for the service.
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Thank you.
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Bless you.
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Harry Fisher, buddy. And then Kelly, where shall people look for you? Where do you want people to go? Where do you want people to follow you?
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Well, my Twitter is the best, Drew, at Dr. D.R. Kelly Victory. I'm pretty active on Twitter. And I'm doing, like you, a lot of interviews on different news outlets, including Newsmax and Real America's Voice and lots of others, where we talk about what's timely with regard to, frankly, the continued growth
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beating of the drum, the fear porn, as I call it, whether it's bird flu, human metapneumovirus, RSV, COVID, whatever it is, we're trying to, and you and I both preach what I call, you call rational readiness, this idea of we are not fear mongers, we are not preppers, we're not suggesting that you stockpile baked beans and toilet paper. What I'm saying is that it makes sense to have on hand
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the medications and the sorts of supplies that you would need so that you are not at the mercy of the system uh particularly in a time of crisis um you know whether it's a hurricane an earthquake you know whatever it is a riot you don't want to have to be that person who's looking for an urgent care fire and we we were so grateful to have our kids particularly that field kit we were like we were carrying that big box around with us because it was it was useful
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Right. And so, you know, I think that that's something that the wellness company has really brought. And it's a part of the medical freedom movement. And it's the part that's saying we are willing to put patients over profits. We are really focusing on what will truly make Americans healthy again. which is not just another pill, not another therapeutic.
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You know, for me, I take lots of things like the broccoli sprouts that the company, the wellness company provides. There are so many things that people can be doing proactively to take care of their own immune system. And I think really that's the future. That's the next decade.
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And for me, it's really allowed me to double down, as I said at the beginning of the show, on my interest and passion for health and wellness and the idea that the best way to be free, you know, medical freedom means do not shackle yourself with ill health. Do not allow yourself to be shackled with chronic disease. And your lifestyle has a lot to do with that.
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Kelly, thank you for joining us. Hope we'll see you again soon. And if the opportunity arises between now and then, let's go to D.C. and meet with all our friends over there and see what we can do to be of use.
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I would love it. Anytime.
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All right. Thank you, Kelly. Kelly Victor, everybody. And I know you all love it when she's on the show. Let me just quickly check the restream. Susan, I don't know what the growth factor thing was you were talking about there. I think that was you.
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Oh my gosh, that's wild.
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I think that's what Mila... Bilbo is praying for me and forgiving me for something. I'm not quite sure what. But I think... Let's put the schedule up, Caleb, so people can understand what's coming. There's still some secret guests that Emily Barsh is keeping close to her chest. Jeff Dye is our next guest, hopefully in here. Dave Rubin coming on the 16th. Max Elviva Fry on the 15th. Dave back.
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Salty Cracker back. Peter McCullough back on the 30th. So look out for January. It's going to be a very busy month. We have some really interesting guests that we are efforting. And if we get them, it will be a headline. So look forward to that in January and February. Susan, anything else for you? Or Caleb?
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Let's see. Wait. Timing is everything. We heard her.
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There we go. Hi. Hi.
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All right, everybody. Have a great weekend. Thank you for being here. Thank you, Dr. Victory. Thank you, Harry Fisher. And we'll see you on, let me double check. I always screw this up. I believe it's Tuesday at three o'clock. Is that correct, everybody? Tuesday at three o'clock. Jeff Dye, we'll see you then. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky.
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I think for us, Drew, is going to be about making America healthy again doesn't just mean revamping the health care system and the medical insurance system and those sorts of things. It means people getting involved in controlling and taking responsibility for their own health and wellness.
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If you aren't exercising daily, if you aren't sleeping seven to eight hours of quality sleep a night, if you aren't managing your stress, you aren't eating good, wholesome food. In other words, you know, getting rid of the fast food, the processed food and all that.
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Harry Fisher is an EMT that blew the whistle, so to speak, on some of the things he was seeing out in the field. And, of course, he was roundly condemned for it. His book is Safe and Effective, For Profit, A Paramedic Story Exposing American Genocide. Follow Harry at HarryFisherEMPT on X. Let's get right to it after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre.
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If you aren't doing that, then you really have to look in the mirror about why you are not in a great state of health rather than turning constantly to your doctor and
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the next uh medication and god only knows the next vaccine yeah i'm actually a little i don't angry with myself i think of the way to describe it that i've not emphasized diet exercise more i've always mandated it for myself but i've not right publicly done anything with it i'm not so it is time um the other thing
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You very kindly were the source of introducing us to RFK Jr., which was sort of a life-changing kind of experience getting to know him. I know you know him very well. Do you have any plans to do anything? Are you going to Washington? Can you tell us?
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Well, I can tell you, I've been offered a number of very compelling positions working directly with Robert Kennedy Jr. At this juncture, I have not yet. not accepted or pursued any particular one of them for a number of reasons. I was very, very interested and I remain extraordinarily interested in serving as a Surgeon General. It's a position that I believe has been wasted for decades.
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It is one of the most important positions and most people cannot remember a Surgeon General since C. Everett Koop back in the 1980s. We just went through five years of the worst public health crisis that we have ever experienced, and the Surgeon General was nowhere to be seen for five years. This is a problem. So I was very, very interested in pursuing that.
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As you know, President Trump has made a different choice and has nominated Jeanette Nashwat, somebody who you and I both know. It remains to be seen whether or not she will make it through the confirmation process, but I have every reason to believe that she will, and hopefully she will take a different approach to previous Surgeons General who have remained totally absent.
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That is a role that demands somebody who is an excellent communicator, somebody who tells it like it is, somebody who can become the trusted, measured voice of America's doctor. And that's a role I really had hoped that I would have a chance to play.
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The other roles are not compelling enough for me to pick up, change my life, give everything up, and move permanently to Washington, DC, and lose all of these platforms, because that's what would happen. So for me, communication is key. Getting the truth out to people in a way that they can understand it is something that I consider to be a skill set.
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And so the idea for me to be stuck in an office somewhere writing policy papers or working on health care policy isn't, I don't believe, the best use of my passions and my skills. Right.
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Do you have recommendations? I mean, I'm sort of interested in what all of us can do to support the changes that RFK and Mehmet Oz, I hope, are going to institute, and hopefully Jeanette even too. And are there things specifically that you and I can do Do you think that would support them in the meantime?
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Yeah, I think the most important thing we can do, Drew, is to continue what we've been doing, which is getting information, really fostering conversation, fostering the dialogue, fighting against...
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the cancel culture this censorship right the things that that we you know god only knows the mainstream media is still even with trump in the office they are still going to be under the thumb of big pharma big pharma owns the media they own the medical journals they own the medical schools
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The psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for . Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
So the thing I believe we can do, and that's what I was referencing, I'm not willing to give up my platform to speak openly and honestly unless I'm offered another platform that would be even bigger and better. And that would have to be a forward-facing platform. really out there on a daily basis in front of a microphone with the opportunity to speak and communicate with the American public.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
And I think in the meantime, that's something that you and I can continue to do on this platform, as well as the rest of social media and everywhere that you and I speak out with regard to our association with the wellness company, the podcasts that we do, the news interviews that we take. And I think that that's critically important.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
Yeah, there is a big shift coming, it feels like. I've been fighting for California and Los Angeles in particular for a long time. I've stayed here for the fight. For the first time, I'm sort of hopeful that there might be an opportunity here given what has happened. This is the debacle since the debacle. Now we have the fire debacle. We have the virus debacle. We have the vaccine debacle.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
And now we have the fire debacle. And you know, you go ahead.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
you know, I'm more, I'm very biblically based. So I've kind of lost track, however, on which, which plague we're on. You know, we, we, we did pestilence and we did pestilence and flood and fire. I think famine's next. I got to get my, I got to actually, you know, review. I, I think we, I think, I think we're up to famine at this point.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
Locusts may be coming as well, but I'm in California right now. And I, I don't, mean to imply that I'm making light of any of this. I am actually horrified and have been very distressed in the past 72, 96 hours with regard to what we're seeing with these fires.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
Although I am not personally in an area where we would be in danger, we're far enough from LA, but I am watching the homes of good friends and colleagues literally burned to the ground. people whose lives have been devastated. And it is largely the result of unbelievably poor management.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
The idea that the, you know, Karen Bass, the mayor of LA would have cut, you know, nearly $20 million out of the fire response budget. And at the same time, deploy resources towards building DEI and coming up with a point system where you got more points for hiring this minority person who might fit the gender identity, politics, whatever it is, the DEI initiative.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. If you have trouble, you can't stop and you want help stopping, I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. I'm excited to bring you a new product, a new supplement, Fatty. I take it. I make Susan take it. My whole family takes it.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
taking precedence over actually having water in the damn fire hydrants. I mean, that is unconscionable. And I've really, really been troubled by it.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
Well, they aren't governing. Like I told you before, the mic's heated up. You will not hear complaints about Pasadena. I live in Pasadena. The fire was bearing down on us. And we're fine. There are no complaints about Pasadena. The complaints are about the city of Los Angeles and the county and the state. And it's sort of striking to me that you don't hear Pasadena complaints.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
And we got hit very hard. And here's why you're not hearing complaints.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
The act of nature was wild and intense, and everyone understands it was an act of nature. And then the city and the fire department and everybody did their job. They mitigated. They did the best they could, and they did what they're supposed to do. Everything worked. It was still awful. It was horrific. There's been some devastation.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
But you can't blame the city or the personnel for what went on here. It would have been worse if we'd been under the management of these yo-yos in Los Angeles.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
Right. Well, there's a common theme here when you look at these Democrat run cities. What I heard come out of the mouths of people like Karen Bass and others at the helm in L.A. was not dissimilar from what you heard after that horrific terrorist event on the early morning hours of January 1st in New Orleans. They act as if there is no science behind disaster preparedness.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
I am a specialist in disaster preparedness and response. There is tremendous science. We know what works. And you do it ahead of time. It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark. These are things that you do ahead of time. And yet you hear these people get up there and say, wow, here's what we're going to do in response to the fire. Here's what we're going to do next time.
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Dr. Kelly Victory: Paramedic Exposes “American Genocide” & Gets Fired w/ Harry Fisher – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 444
The mayor and the police chief and the people in New Orleans said, well, gosh, how would we know that the guy would have driven up on the sidewalk? Seriously? Seriously. It didn't occur to you that a terrorist might not follow the posted traffic signs. This is tantamount to saying, well, how would we know they bring a gun? It said no firearms allowed. You know, there is science behind this.