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Dr. Josh Axe

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Passion Struck with John R. Miles

Dr. Josh Axe on How to Overcome False Narratives | EP 539

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Yeah, the way that I think about it is when I use the term mindset, I think our mindset, our ways of thinking about things tend to be held up by multiple beliefs that we have about something. So for instance, there's a friend of mine who is a fairly successful entrepreneur, but he could be so much more successful if he overcame this mindset that was a scarcity mindset.

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And so, and I've asked him questions about this. And again, he's a really close friend of mine, but he's told me things in life like, Well, my dad used to tell me that money doesn't grow on trees and you got to fight for every last thing you get. And he was one of 10 kids. And so he's developed this mindset over time to where he affords money and he doesn't want to invest.

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He's not generous because of it, or he doesn't take risks. And so his mindset, this scarcity mindset is made up of multiple beliefs. There's only so much money. You've got to fight people for money. You want to save rather than invest. and these multiple issues. And you think about it as a table. And if you have weak legs of this table, everything collapses.

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And so it's really important for people that you go. And this is another discussion, John, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. One of the things that's so important for people to do when you look at the most important mindset people have, one of the most important mindsets is what is success? What does it mean to truly be successful?

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Because the world today tells us it's fame, it's fortune, right? So it's a big social media following or it's a certain size house or driving a Lamborghini or so much money. That's what the world says success is. But if you look at the Bible or you look at the people that you and I, John, are probably like, we want to be like these people, right?

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Probably like their Mother Teresa's, the John Maxwell's, the people that have done so much good in their life. Martin Luther King Jr. 's, it's like, well, what was their, they had a big impact for good. And so my definition of success, which is one of the most important mindsets, needs to be made up of these beliefs.

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So if my beliefs are, well, success is, okay, I have a big house and I've got a million dollars in the bank and I've got a million followers on Instagram or whatever it is, that's going to cause me to live a certain type of life versus if my definition of success is, Loving God, loving people, making earth a heavenly place, adding value to others is my entire goal of blessing other people's lives.

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Well, that's going to be a very, like my wins become very different. And so people really need to pick through their life and look at their mindset about a certain thing. And then what do I believe specifically? And what beliefs do I need to start to exchange in order to live a more meaningful and significant life?

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That's so powerful. One of the things that I realized was I don't, the best thing to believe is the thing that the most successful people believe in terms of real success, right? And again, my definition of real success is more of a biblical narrative around making earth a heavenly place. So if there's trash on the ground, we pick it up, right?

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If a area is dirt, let's turn it into regenerative rainforest in terms of, and then relationships, I think, not just with the earth, but with people and God is even more important than that. And so for me, that's my definition of success is doing that, not just now, but also with an eternal mindset.

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And so what I try and do in different areas of my life is not focus on what I believe, but focus on what is the most successful people in their field believe that it's also virtuous. So for instance, I might have my own ideas right now about finances, but I want to go and say, how does Warren Buffett and Elon Musk, how do they think about wealth and how do they think about growing wealth?

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And I want to study and adopt, maybe I pick them and a few others and

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what do they believe about investing and finances and everything else and i want to then go and adopt those same mindsets and beliefs for myself and in discovering the truth same thing how do i know what's true spiritually right and i need to look at because there's a lot of different religions out there there's within christianity right we've got protestantism and catholicism and orthodoxy within judaism you've got different you've got more of the reformed and orthodox there and then there's

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Buddhism and there's Islam and all these other things. And for me, there's a Bible verse and it reminds me of this. Jesus says, you'll recognize them by the fruit in their lives. By their fruit, you'll recognize them. If somebody has good, beautiful fruit, like a Mother Teresa or a Martin Luther King Jr. or a William Wilberforce or these people that changed the world for good,

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What is it that they believe? What was their religion? What was their spiritual belief? Okay. The people that have the best fruit in their lives, I'm going to follow them. John, there's a lot of marriage coaches and counselors out there. And I remember one of them and they'd been divorced five times. Now, sometimes we can learn things from a divorce, right?

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And some there's great counselors that have been remarried and now have a great marriage and they learn from the first time, but somebody that's been through five and still struggling in the middle and then giving someone else relationship advice. It's a similar thing with health.

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Have you ever seen the pictures of some of the people running the health of the United States and then some of the other countries who are running the Department of Health versus you look at someone like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in his 70s, ripped and shredded and very healthy, very mentally sharp. And it's like, okay, who am I going to listen to? The best person to listen to and the best person to

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create your beliefs around are the people that have the greatest fruit in their life in this specific area that we're looking to model. Same thing. It's if you and I are learning how to do better shows, like to educate and help inspire people, it's like, are we going to be spending time studying again?

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It's probably going to be Joe Rogan and I don't know, Jordan Peterson and other people that have good shows versus somebody who's never done it before. So I think it's important. And a lot of this goes back to modeling. Like I have learned the most in my life from humbly modeling other people that are ahead of where I currently am.

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Well, I'd say there's two things. If somebody is listening to this and they're saying, you know what? I want to live the greatest life possible. I want to get to the end of my life. And I know that I left it all in the field. I have no regrets. If you want to do that and grow to your maximum, there's two things you need.

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You need to grow in character and you need to grow in your unique skills that God gifted you in. And that's what we see with Michelangelo is that he had such unique gifting as an artist, as a sculptor, as a painter. And he took that to the highest level possible. Reminds me of in the Bible, there's a parable of the talents, right? And so God gives somebody one talent, another two and another five.

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And the person with one buries their talent. Now that's fine. That's actually money, but it also could be seen as your God-given talent. Maybe it's education or coaching or customer service, but one person buries it. The second person goes and doubles it. And the person with five goes and doubles his. Well, later on, that master comes back, which is God in the story.

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And the one that buries in, he says, you're evil and wicked for doing so, for wasting your talent. And the other two, he says, now I'm going to double what you even have and give you even more beyond that. And so I think about Michelangelo in the very same way. Michelangelo had a talent and he also had a certain level of character and amazing work ethic.

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and wanting to do something that was inspirational and that would honor God. And so he went and created, I mean, I want to say it took him like seven to 10 years because of, they said he went partly blind while he was painting the Sistine Chapel. I mean, here's the other inspiring thing about this.

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When I was recently in Italy, I was doing a, I took a tour on Michelangelo because I just love his work so much. And they had said he lived to be 88 years old. which during that time, the average lifespan, I wanted to say was like upper 40s. So he almost doubled the lifespan of a lot of people. And part of it, I believe, was because he had so much purpose.

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He was doing something really meaningful, really significant because it was divinely inspired. And so to sum up, I want to say the life of Michelangelo, there is a story of him after he had just finished painting the Sistine Chapel. And he's showing somebody his work

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And before they revealed it to the public and he's showing somebody and somebody said, Michelangelo, why did you spend so much time painting this little corner that literally nobody's going to see? And his answer was because God will see. And to me, that was so moving of thinking about our lives in that way that, you know what, somebody might not see it, but God will see it.

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And that's a very eternal mindset. If somebody wants to be successful, we see this in the psychology research that the longer somebody thinks out, okay, the more successful they are. So if somebody is living for today only, they tend to not be very successful versus somebody has a 10 year plan and is working towards 10 years or their lifetime, they tend to be much more successful.

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Well, Michelangelo goes beyond that as he was thinking eternally, and he was even more successful. It reminds me of a C.S. Lewis quote, and he says, the people that do the most in this life are the very people that think most about the next life. And so Michelangelo was able to do that via taking his skill to the highest level possible and taking his character.

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And what a lot of people do today, John, is they try and become jacks of all trades of maybe doing a thing here or there rather than going very deep in one topic. And I think the best thing somebody can do is say, I want to grow in this one single area. Maybe it's a character quality, maybe it's a skill, but spending hours upon hours and just getting better at that one thing.

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And that's how people tend to experience the greatest success in their life is going very deep. And we're living in a world today, it's just so superficial. It's okay, I've got a thousand friends on Instagram, but how many of them are really friends? I'd rather have one true friend I go incredibly deep with that I can trust and build a deep

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meaningful lifelong relationship than a thousand friends on social media. So I think the same thing goes for our work and our life is the more we can grow this, you know, decide on that one area where God has gifted us and take that to the max, the bigger impact we'll have.

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Well, one of the things, John, I just want to say to you, I mean, this is one of the things I love about your podcast is you're constantly now inspiring people in really having a great impact on the world.

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And so I've been so impressed by just saying, I mean, first off, your podcast is one of the fastest growing podcasts, one of the most successful podcasts and helping inspire people in growth and leadership. And so inspiring. It's the work you're doing now is so impactful.

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And to your point, one of the things that I think I realized when I ran my functional medicine clinic full time, now I have a virtual practice and we have people that I advise on healing a number of issues. But I can tell you from working with tens of thousands of patients, almost every single person is really struggling with something in their life. It could be low self-esteem.

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The best person to listen to and the best person to create your beliefs around are the people that have the greatest fruit in their life in this specific area that we're looking to model. And a lot of this goes back to modeling. I have learned the most in my life from humbly modeling other people that are ahead of where I currently am.

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It could be going through a divorce, losing a loved one, workplace issues. But most people have some level of emotional turmoil. And for a lot of people, they may have gone years without somebody saying something truly nice and meaningful to them that's uplifting. Like when I had Mrs. Williams tell me and she said, Josh, you could be a great writer.

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Like for me, I don't think I'd somebody say something like that to me in months. And so for some people, they've never had anyone say that to them. So I really, one thing, I lead a men's group now. And one of the things I'll do every year in the men's group is I'll put my hand on the guy's shoulders, individuals. And I do this because my grandfather did this to me.

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And I'll look them in the eyes and I'll say, God has gifted you to do this. I believe you have this calling. You have this gifting. You can have this impact and help cast a vision for them in their life and speak life into them in terms of what I see their giftings are, their character are. their character is as well.

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And so I would encourage everybody who's listening here is to you be that person to somebody else. Put your hand on their shoulder, look them in the eyes and tell them what in them, the goodness in them, the impact they can have. challenge them to grow because it might just save someone's life. It could transform someone's life, help set them on a new trajectory.

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And those I can think through a few times, not just miss Williams. I can think of my grandfather doing that to me. I can think about a mentor, a Ben who was a doctor who did that to me in my life. And a friend of mine, Jordan Rubin, it, those are, were the, somebody doing that for me was the, those created the single biggest turning points in my entire life.

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Well, I think you're spot on. I think you're exactly right. And I think there are two ways to do this, but number one is what you just shared. And that is, just show up somewhere at a church, at a synagogue, at the local soup kitchen, but just start showing up and saying, you know what?

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I'm going to devote one hour a week, two hours a week to just doing something where I don't get anything returned. I just get to serve someone who's in need. And over time, you probably, they probably will see some gifts and skills that you have, and you'll be able to utilize those gifts and skills within that community you're serving. And so again, a place I like to do that is church.

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And so it could be, and I'll give you an example. I've got a friend of mine, And what he has his daughters do is they go to church, but they also, I think once a month go and maybe more than this, they're high schoolers and they go and spend time with the four and five-year-olds, like just serving in that way. And other people go and help in the parking lot or one might lead a growth group.

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I mean, there's a lot of ways, or they go and do soup kitchens or help with handing out clothes to the homeless or gathering food. I mean, there are a lot of different things that can happen. So that's number one to your point is finding a group you can just show up at and just plug in with everybody else.

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And over time, maybe you do have a new gifting where you can serve in a more unique way outside of that. And the other thing is you might think about also in your, and again, I think there's so much value in just showing up in serving in a specific community, whether it be religious or non-religious in some way. And then the other thing is do think about your talent.

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I'll give you an example of something I've done for years, John, is I do see patients via the practitioner. I have a group of practitioners and a virtual practice. It's called the Health Institute.

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And so we take care of a lot of people with hypothyroidism, autoimmune disease, diabetes, infertility, and we put together programs and supplement packages and help people heal and reverse their chronic illness. Now, I get paid to do that and the practitioners do. But sometimes I just probably at least once a week, I go and create a health plan for somebody for absolutely free. Right.

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And so I will go and figure out, for instance, now I will share with you, John, a lot of them are referrals from my mom or a lot of different people I know over time. My mom is a breast cancer survivor. She'll have a woman, let's say, who maybe has breast cancer. My mom will say, hey, can you talk with them? I'll do more than talk with them.

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I'll go and write down an exact eating plan, a supplement plan, maybe even send them products for free and do everything I can to help serve them. I'll spend time, I'll pray with them on the phone. I do that without getting paid because I know that God gave me a gift in his son and I want to be able to give gifts in return, asking nothing in return.

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So I think the primary way is what you just shared is being able to plug into a community in some way, but also think about what your unique gifts are and try and do some of those sorts of things on a regular basis. Here's one other thing I mentioned earlier. Very few people have had a word of encouragement an entire week. Okay. that are adults primarily, but also a lot of kids.

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Maybe once a week you have a time plugged in for 30 minutes where you just send positive messages to people in your life. Could be a text message, could be a handwritten note. I had a friend of mine I met in high school. I went to visit him in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

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I was speaking at Kellogg's in front of their headquarters demanding they get the dyes and the chemicals out of our cereal and food supply. But while I was up there, I saw a friend from high school I hadn't seen since his wedding 18 years ago. And after seeing him, he wrote me a handwritten note of how much my friendship meant to him, even after we hadn't seen each other that long.

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And it was so meaningful because handwritten notes are so rare today. I mean, like, I'm going to keep it because it was just that meaningful. And so just things like that, that you could just schedule once a week for even 30 minutes can radically improve the lives of others.

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Yeah, it makes me think of two things. I want to talk about self-awareness and then something actually very different. But I think they're both to your point. The other one is loneliness. Now, we live in a culture where a lot of people talk about goal setting.

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And I'm a big goal setter, and I know you are too, like casting a vision for your life, setting a goal, creating a strategic plan that's powerful. But when you look at the ancient spiritual texts, the Tanakh or the Torah or the Bible, or you look at a lot of the Buddhist or Taoist philosophy and monks, they don't talk about goal setting almost ever. They talk primarily about self-awareness.

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Goal setting is where you want to go. Awareness is where are you right now? And you can't truly get to where you want to go unless you know where you are now. So think about if you're driving in a map, you're saying, Hey, I want to go to, I want to go up. I want to go down to the Maya, the Florida keys, wherever it is. Okay. Well, What if you don't know where you currently are?

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How do you know whether to go east, west, north, south? It's pretty hard to know. So self-awareness is the epitome of wisdom, okay? And it's one of the most important. It's a cardinal virtue that we need to develop if we're going to grow to our highest level possible. By the way, there's some great research that shows that people that are the happiest do two things.

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They're the people that serve others the most and the people that are experiencing the most growth in their life. and their character and skill. So if you wanna be happy, it's essential you do that, but it's really hard to grow unless you have a level of self-awareness. And I think that you develop self-awareness by thinking unbiasedly about where you are now.

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And for most people, that's going to lead them to a great level of humility, of realizing that, you know what, we are finite beings in a vast, endless world. And we don't necessarily have to have a lot of meaning. And that's very humbling. But then there's a level of confidence that's built knowing that We're children of God created for eternal life.

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And to know that we can literally alter the life of someone else, as we've talked about, we could say something mean and hurtful to somebody, which could cause them to take their own life or have a negative experience or whatever. Or we could say something to somebody that could save their life or cause them to go on to do great, meaningful things with their life.

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So I think there's a level there of understanding at the simultaneously level We're almost nothing. We're dirt and we're mud. We're also eternal divine beings. You want to hold both things in your hand at the same time and be aware of yourself in that way. And some of the people that I respect the most, John, it's probably similar with yourself. they are the most spiritually and self-aware.

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Like I'm thinking about pastors, rabbis, priests, monks. There's some of them where it's very hard to rattle them. It's almost like they're sitting there, they have a calm sense of spirit that's calming towards others. They ask, they see into your soul in a way, some of them even, that are really very aware. And so you could say something negative to them or hurtful,

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Well, thanks for having me on. And when you were on my show, it was an incredibly popular episode. So thanks again for coming on. I love talking. We talked obviously a lot about mindset on there, which was such a powerful conversation.

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And they're going to sit there without any expression change, or maybe the thing that will pop up on their face is a smile and say, they're going to be thinking more about hurt people say hurtful things. They're going to sit there and look at you and think, there's hurt in your life. How can I bless you? How can I love you and to help you heal?

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Versus a person that's not self-aware, if somebody says something hurtful to them, they're going to respond with something hurtful back. They get punched, they're going to punch back. Versus it's like Taekwondo, I believe it's the martial arts where somebody punches you, you take their own force and you use it to move them or against them in that way.

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It's more of that sort of, that self-awareness, that spiritual awareness or growth is having that sort of ability to,

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and so being aware of your strengths and your weaknesses and being aware of where you need to grow and also being aware of maybe what others are thinking and feeling so you can support and bless their life so i do think that being connected to yourself and as the bible talks about the holy spirit or god for even that level of a higher consciousness working through you that is so incredibly powerful and the people i say see doing

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not just the most with their life, but the most good with their life. Because there's people doing a lot with their life, but maybe it's working towards evil. Bill Gates does a lot with his life, but I think it's a net negative, right? And so there are other people that are doing it towards the good. And the other point there is with loneliness, and I'm not sure which question you were wanting.

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I think it's the self-awareness, but not being connected only to yourself and the divine, but not being connected to the others. is one of the most physiological, destructive things in the world. In fact, there was a study, and I published this in my book.

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There was a researcher, and they found that when it comes to decreasing lifespan, experiencing extreme loneliness for a day is the equivalent of smoking 15 cigarettes.

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You might be right. That's right. It might be 21 cigarettes a day, or it might be two different studies. But overall, you think about how damaging that is. It's incredibly destructive. And so I think that going into foster, I mean, my mindset, John, rather than having relationships that just fall into my lap, which I'm generally open to, but more so, I go and really, I'm very conscious about

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Who are the five people I spend the most time with in making sure that I'm doing everything I can to love them and be a great friend and add value to them and that they can do the same reciprocal to me to be a sort of iron sharpens iron for each other. But I do think we're in an epidemic of loneliness right now with people today.

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And I think that's another reason why, you know, when I first got into practice, the top issues that were growing were cancer, heart disease, diabetes, childhood obesity. Today, by far, the number one issue is mental health issues. depression, anxiety, and loneliness and identity disorders.

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Exactly. I do think that's the epitome of identity issues is that it's that low self-worth. My life doesn't matter. And people need to understand that it does. It has eternal significance. And to your point, I do think that's the core of the issue.

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Well, John, we have. In fact, I did a podcast not long ago and really talked about some of the negative impacts of alcoholism, how to overcome addiction with nutrition and mindset. And what I think, so I'm trying to think of who gave this quote, and I want to say it's Carl Jung, the famed psychologist. But he says something like this, when we don't have

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a certain level of significance and meaning in our life, we go and we numb out with idle pleasures. But basically, people are looking for meaning. If you don't have meaning and significance in your life, it's painful. It's lonely. It also affects your sense of value.

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And I think about right now, like anytime in my life that maybe I've had a sense of lacking value, there's some sort of a deep-seated emotional, spiritual pain that sort of is there.

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And so I think that a lot of people who maybe don't know their purpose in life and don't know their unique gifts and skills and aren't using that for good, I think anytime we live out of alignment with the way God designed us, it's painful or it leads to pain in the long run. And so a lot of people will use alcohol to numb out. It's numbing in a way, right? And it's not just alcohol though.

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I think it's almost anything that we can become addicted to. It could be Netflix and constantly just watching things. It could be scrolling constantly on TikTok or Instagram on social media. It could be shopping. It could be drugs. I mean, there's numerous things that we use to numb ourselves out.

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But in those times, it's when we're typically the least self-aware as well when you're numbing yourself. And so with someone like you, I think that now maybe you're at a point in your life now where you probably have, from what I perceive, maybe more purpose and meaning than you've ever had. Again, you're having such a great impact on so many lives and so many people.

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And you've heard this before, because you've probably read some Tony Robbins, too. He talks about this. Now, this goes way back to the Bible. I think it talks about this generally in the Old Testament. But We make decisions for two reasons, pain and pleasure, right? If we can get enough pleasure from something good in our life, then that's the best way to go.

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But sometimes we make decisions to avoid pain. And so I think certain things could be drinking other things. Maybe we're doing that to avoid certain types of pain. But when it comes to connection, obviously the more you are clear of mind, right? Probably the deeper you can connect with somebody or have a real connection to. So I think there's a lot.

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I think there's a lot to that conversation, a lot to that idea. And by the way, culturally, we're seeing this a lot with Gen Zers as well. There are more people now giving up things like alcohol than I think maybe what was happening 10, 20 years ago.

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Well, it had a profound impact. They say you become like the people you surround yourself with the most. And of course, our parents, our grandparents, our pastors, teachers, coaches. I mean, these people in the early stages of our life have a massive impact. In fact, I'm working as a functional medicine practitioner and somebody also that focuses a lot on spiritual health and wellness.

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John, it's so powerful. I'm thinking back. So when I was in college, okay, I drank a pretty good amount with the guys there. I was in a fraternity, which going back, I never would have joined. But again, you learn. So I did it my first couple of years. I drank fairly heavily my freshman and sophomore year. And then I got to a point where I just felt really empty.

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I thought none of my relationships were meaningful. I felt like I did have really meaningful relationships in high school. And I just prayed to God and said, God, I need you. And I ended up starting to really pursue God in my life, find my unique gifts and talents, my purpose. All of that in my life seemed to be more full. However, I did have some of the same friend group.

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And every time, every social gathering was alcohol. That was at the center. And I'd find myself drinking and then not feeling good the next day or not being as productive or still not having those meaningful relationships. And I realized I needed to find a completely different social group.

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It was almost like I had to fire or break up with my friend group and go find a completely different friend group because I felt like when I was hanging out with them, because I would try not to drink and I felt, okay, everyone else is drinking. I'm the one not drinking anymore, at least only drinking one.

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And so I felt lonely, like I was the black sheep of the entire group for a while until I went and found a completely different group of friends. I think that's hard for a lot of people because a lot of us have relationships. We might feel guilty about maybe leaving a friend group behind.

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But I think if you don't have, I think about it like this, a psychologist said this, he said, if you wouldn't recommend your own child hang out with them and you wouldn't like love that your kids are hanging out with them, you shouldn't hang out with them as well as one of your close friends.

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Doesn't mean you can't minister to their life and you can't support them on occasion, but actually having a deep friendship with them or trying to pursue that sort of thing with them. If you wouldn't want your own child to have a deep relationship with them, then that's not the right fit for you either.

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Yes, the blood suckers. Yes, that's a good, it's so true.

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Well, I'd love that, John. And as I told you, I got family in Florida. I'll come down sometime from Nashville and would love to be on your show. Let's do an in-person. And I actually would love to have you to Nashville and interview you here as well. And if people do want to learn, I obviously talk a lot about health on my podcast. Like men, how do you boost your testosterone?

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One of the things that I've discovered is that it's even my patients that dealt with medical health issues are a lot of those issues actually affect their health later on in life. It could be their mental health. It could be their physical health due to worry, anxiety, fear. But a lot of that happens early on in life.

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Women, how do you naturally bounce your hormones, gut health? immunity and a whole lot more and a lot of mindset and growth stuff. So people could check out the Dr. Josh Axe show too. But yeah, I would love to have you on. And this is an honor. Again, I know that you've got such an incredible base of listeners that are inspiring people and want to do big things with their lives.

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So again, I just want to say thanks so much for having me on today.

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Awesome. Well, thank you, John. God bless everybody. Thanks so much, John, again.

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And I can remember my grandfather told me very early on that life is about this, right? So I don't know for a lot of people that, somebody tells them, this is what life is about. So my grandfather told me very early on, listen, life is about becoming a certain type of person. Life is about adding value to others. Life is not just about plays that I want you to play.

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You want to have fun, but life is about relationship. Life is about advancing the kingdom of God, building a relationship with God and serving other people, making their lives better. And so having him instill that in me, that message early on, was so powerful and transformative.

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And even though I don't know that I fully understood at the time, as he continued to repeat it over time, it became part of who I was. And so, yeah, and I was really blessed to have both parents and including my dad and my grandfather that really sewed into me. And one of the things that I found for a lot of people is they haven't had those people.

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Somebody might have grown up without a dad or they had a dad that wasn't a virtuous, disciplined person that was sewing into them, or maybe they never had a grandfather. who is that sort of person in their life. And so it's really important that people go out and find those mentors then that play that grandfather and that fatherlike role that can help them develop and grow.

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Because the way that we most grow in our lives is through modeling. It's discipleship, it's mentorship. And I hear from people all the time when I'm teaching lectures and workshops, people come up to me and say, Dr. Axe, I want to find a mentor.

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I don't have one because it's something I recommend often because I'll tell people that one of the greatest things that have transformed my life and helped me personally grow is having mentors and people that sewed into me. And I'm always looking to do that to others.

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And of course we can do it at a distance by John, listening to your podcast and my podcast or reading John Maxwell or other spiritual or leadership and personal growth leaders, but But it's also really powerful to have those people in our lives in person.

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And I want to mention this real quick because I think it's so interesting. So because I had my dad who was an old military guy and he taught me a lot of discipline, lifting weights, constantly challenged me. And it was more of that sort of masculine like growth.

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And then my grandfather did it in such a, as you mentioned, it was like a softer, more gentle, patient way with a certain level of wisdom. And I think it was just part of it was maturity. Some of it was personality, but it was beneficial getting sort of those virtues, different virtues from different people.

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I mean, this was like it was for you. It was a life-altering moment. And everybody has had this moment. I want you to think about what was your moment where you've had something like this happen?

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have you ever recovered from it so i was in freshman english class freshman high school and a teacher asked me to stay after name was miss noble i stayed after class she says josh what do you want to do after high school and i said i want to be a doctor and the reason i said that john was the year before my mom was diagnosed with breast cancer she went through chemotherapy she lost all of her hair she almost died and so seeing my mom suffer like that it just really pierced my heart and i said to myself

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I want to help people like my mom. And I want to find a better way to help people heal. And so I decided I want to be a doctor at that moment. Well, the English teacher, I said, I want to be a doctor. And she literally laughed out loud. And she said, Josh, listen, with your GPA, you'll never get into med school. She says, my own daughter has a three-point GPA. She barely got into med school.

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And she said, You just failed this paper. That's why I wanted you to stay after. And you're getting a D minus in this class. You'll be lucky to pass. You said you need to try harder. And I walked out of there, John, feeling like, okay, well, maybe I can't be a doctor.

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Well, then my mom brought me to see a medical doctor two weeks later who diagnosed me with ADHD and talked about me like I wasn't in the room. I still remember his words today where he said, your son has a learning disability. And I thought, well, gosh, not only... Am I not smart? I'm like medically not smart. There's something wrong with me. So then I just stopped trying in high school.

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I barely graduated high school. I had like just above a 2.0 GPA, applied to colleges, got denied by almost all of them. And then I applied to one and they said, we've got a new program where if you come and take summer school and you average above a 3.0, we'll let you in. It was the University of Kentucky. I grew up in Ohio. And I said, okay, well, I don't want to be the kid that just stays back.

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I want to go and try. So I went. And the first class I had to take was English 101 in freshman year college. So I went, I took the class. First big assignment was a paper, turned it in, felt pretty good. But then three days later, the teacher name was Ms. Williams. She says, Josh, can you stay after class? my heart sunk because it felt like deja vu. I thought, oh no.

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She said, Josh, what's your major? And I said, well, Ms. Williams, I haven't chosen a major yet. And she said, well, I really think you should consider being a English or journalism major because she said, I think you're a really great writer. Of the 40 some kids in this class, you got the highest grade, great job. And for me, John, I'll call it like a memory or a mindset transplant.

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I went from feeling like I was dumb. I wasn't good at school. These narratives running through my head. And finally, I had one person tell me, that I was smart or that I could do this or I was good at something. And I completely embraced it and had a transplant there. And I said, you know what? I can do this. Later on, I switched to pre-med and then I went on to get my doctorate.

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I then went on later to John Hopkins University, graduated from John Hopkins with nearly a 4.0 GPA. And I share none of that to boast, but just to say this, I went from being the kid in high school that barely graduated to eventually graduating John Hopkins and getting later on or earlier on a doctorate.

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And there's a lot of people out there today, John, that they had someone say something to them, a parent, a teacher, a coach. And they're still living with that today. They haven't had that belief transplant that's allowed them to thrive and experience the breakthrough in the relationship, in their career, in their spiritual life.

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And so for me, one of the things I've really committed to doing myself and helping others do is making sure that I don't have any limiting beliefs that are holding me back and then going and replacing those limiting beliefs with empowering beliefs that And I found for so many people doing that singular exercise of writing down what their limiting beliefs are, when they started.

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There's actually a method. It's called the ABCDE method. It goes like this. One, activate the memory of when this belief started. Number two is B. which is what's the exact belief? C is what are the consequences if you continue to believe the lie? D is dispute it, why it's not true. And E, exchange it for the thing you need to believe in order to experience the greatest outcome in your life.

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And if people can do that and start to write down the limiting beliefs about themselves, about God, about the world, about others, that's where most people start to experience, I think, some of their biggest breakthroughs in life.