Dr. John Delony

And then they're also, additionally to that, choose freedom.

We can kind of nerd out in the book a little bit, but clutter.

We're not designed for all of the crap we have.

We're not designed for all the noise that we have.

We have so much stuff, so much information, so much data.

Data is a new Xanax.

I just need to go have another cup of coffee.

I just need to look at the numbers and get some more.

It's madness.

It's madness.

And so choosing freedom is about unhooking from all these other voices that are telling you what you have to be doing and then say, as for me and as for my house, we're going to decide what the next step is.

And the only way you can do that is the hard, ugly work of choosing freedom.

The original way I stumbled into Dave was years ago.

I didn't know who he was.

I knew he was just a guy that sold books and had a radio show, but I got sick of all these different people calling me every day saying, you owe me, you owe me, you owe me.

My wife and I made a great salary.

She was a tenure track research professor.

I was a senior leader at a university.

We made more money than our parents could have fathomed and we couldn't breathe.

And so I came to him out of desperation.