Dr. Brandon Vance

Nice. So much, David. That was so nice.

Nice. So much, David. That was so nice.

You've really inspired me because you lay out things in such a clear way and such an accessible way. And I know you all have talked before about just reading, feeling good, that there have been studies on that as being very helpful in terms of depression. And I've also found that groups and the pandemic also inspired me with that, that

You've really inspired me because you lay out things in such a clear way and such an accessible way. And I know you all have talked before about just reading, feeling good, that there have been studies on that as being very helpful in terms of depression. And I've also found that groups and the pandemic also inspired me with that, that

coming together in groups of people has all those added benefits of community and of support and even an accountability. So that's been very fulfilling to run some groups.

coming together in groups of people has all those added benefits of community and of support and even an accountability. So that's been very fulfilling to run some groups.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, from a few places. The first inspiration was a patient of mine, and we can call him Elias, and he has OCD and we've done a lot of exposure therapy. In fact, he does exposures every day, which is wonderful. But then after he had made lots of progress with that, he began to talk about that his phone, he just used it all the time.

Well, from a few places. The first inspiration was a patient of mine, and we can call him Elias, and he has OCD and we've done a lot of exposure therapy. In fact, he does exposures every day, which is wonderful. But then after he had made lots of progress with that, he began to talk about that his phone, he just used it all the time.

And Instagram reels, these short little video clips where he'd spend sometimes hours looking at those. And then he'd realize afterwards, gosh, I spent all this time and I would like to not be doing that. And yet I need Instagram to communicate with people. And so what do I do?

And Instagram reels, these short little video clips where he'd spend sometimes hours looking at those. And then he'd realize afterwards, gosh, I spent all this time and I would like to not be doing that. And yet I need Instagram to communicate with people. And so what do I do?

And so, of course, having studied with David, I took a paradoxical approach and we looked at the positives of him doing that. And then we did a bit of a role play. about triple paradox, and we can get into that later. But he, at that point, wasn't very motivated. He couldn't talk back to those reasons to be using Instagram Reels. And so I didn't push it. I didn't try to get him to change.

And so, of course, having studied with David, I took a paradoxical approach and we looked at the positives of him doing that. And then we did a bit of a role play. about triple paradox, and we can get into that later. But he, at that point, wasn't very motivated. He couldn't talk back to those reasons to be using Instagram Reels. And so I didn't push it. I didn't try to get him to change.

He's also a very social person, and I thought that a group contest could be really helpful to him. Meanwhile, I was asking, so we have a baby who's now 21 months old.

He's also a very social person, and I thought that a group contest could be really helpful to him. Meanwhile, I was asking, so we have a baby who's now 21 months old.

Yeah. He was met David before. And yeah. And my wife, Rosa, and I were talking about parenting, and I've wanted to be a parent for, you know, 20 years. And I thought I'd be a really wonderful parent, and I think I'm pretty good. But I was asking her, what do you think I could do better in terms of parenting?

Yeah. He was met David before. And yeah. And my wife, Rosa, and I were talking about parenting, and I've wanted to be a parent for, you know, 20 years. And I thought I'd be a really wonderful parent, and I think I'm pretty good. But I was asking her, what do you think I could do better in terms of parenting?

Just wanting to keep in touch with each other as we go on this journey of bringing up Lansipa. And she said... I'd like to not have him see you using your phone. And boy, that just brought up a lot of sadness. And I realized that I was like using my phone around him, like looking at my phone and he was experiencing me some that way.

Just wanting to keep in touch with each other as we go on this journey of bringing up Lansipa. And she said... I'd like to not have him see you using your phone. And boy, that just brought up a lot of sadness. And I realized that I was like using my phone around him, like looking at my phone and he was experiencing me some that way.