Doug Stanhope

Well, I think it's slightly more complicated than that because essentially the idea is that it's perfectly legitimate for an aristocrat to succeed to the estate and the fortune and the titles and the glory of his ancestors. No one has a problem with that.

And so the pretense is that the August family, the family of Augustus, are just a family like any other, even though obviously what it brings is the rule of the world. So there is a kind of a veiled hypocrisy about it. You are right. Of course, effectively, it is a monarchy, but nobody wants to admit that. Augustus doesn't want to admit it. Tiberius doesn't want to admit it.

And so the pretense is that the August family, the family of Augustus, are just a family like any other, even though obviously what it brings is the rule of the world. So there is a kind of a veiled hypocrisy about it. You are right. Of course, effectively, it is a monarchy, but nobody wants to admit that. Augustus doesn't want to admit it. Tiberius doesn't want to admit it.

And so the pretense is that the August family, the family of Augustus, are just a family like any other, even though obviously what it brings is the rule of the world. So there is a kind of a veiled hypocrisy about it. You are right. Of course, effectively, it is a monarchy, but nobody wants to admit that. Augustus doesn't want to admit it. Tiberius doesn't want to admit it.

The Senate don't want to admit it. You know, everyone keeps it under a veil. And this will become important in explaining... Caligula's policy as emperor and why he becomes so unpopular with the Senate. But in the meanwhile, he is very exposed. So Tiberius does have a grandson of his own, who's a very little boy called Gemellus. But Caligula, he turns 18. He's summoned by Tiberius to Capri.

The Senate don't want to admit it. You know, everyone keeps it under a veil. And this will become important in explaining... Caligula's policy as emperor and why he becomes so unpopular with the Senate. But in the meanwhile, he is very exposed. So Tiberius does have a grandson of his own, who's a very little boy called Gemellus. But Caligula, he turns 18. He's summoned by Tiberius to Capri.

The Senate don't want to admit it. You know, everyone keeps it under a veil. And this will become important in explaining... Caligula's policy as emperor and why he becomes so unpopular with the Senate. But in the meanwhile, he is very exposed. So Tiberius does have a grandson of his own, who's a very little boy called Gemellus. But Caligula, he turns 18. He's summoned by Tiberius to Capri.

And Suetonius is... predictably very vituperative about what Caligula gets up to on Capri. So he writes, "...the island proved a treacherous place for him, rife with attempts either to trick or to pressure him into airing his grievances against Tiberius.

And Suetonius is... predictably very vituperative about what Caligula gets up to on Capri. So he writes, "...the island proved a treacherous place for him, rife with attempts either to trick or to pressure him into airing his grievances against Tiberius.

And Suetonius is... predictably very vituperative about what Caligula gets up to on Capri. So he writes, "...the island proved a treacherous place for him, rife with attempts either to trick or to pressure him into airing his grievances against Tiberius.

But refusing to take the bait, he behaved as though nothing had happened to his family and their ruin had quite slipped his mind, dismissed the wrongs done him with a straight face so convincing that it and was so ready to cringe and crawl before his grandfather and his courtiers that it has been said of him, quite justifiably, that never was there a better slave nor a worse master.

But refusing to take the bait, he behaved as though nothing had happened to his family and their ruin had quite slipped his mind, dismissed the wrongs done him with a straight face so convincing that it and was so ready to cringe and crawl before his grandfather and his courtiers that it has been said of him, quite justifiably, that never was there a better slave nor a worse master.

But refusing to take the bait, he behaved as though nothing had happened to his family and their ruin had quite slipped his mind, dismissed the wrongs done him with a straight face so convincing that it and was so ready to cringe and crawl before his grandfather and his courtiers that it has been said of him, quite justifiably, that never was there a better slave nor a worse master.

I mean, how can we rely on this? But

I mean, how can we rely on this? But

I mean, how can we rely on this? But

again the kind of the resonance of of the myth is so overwhelming that it kind of becomes historically significant in its own right so tiberius watches caligula it is said encourages him in you know joining in watching tortures or erotic floor shows or whatever and is supposed to have said of of caligula that he was rearing someone fated to prove a viper to the roman people

again the kind of the resonance of of the myth is so overwhelming that it kind of becomes historically significant in its own right so tiberius watches caligula it is said encourages him in you know joining in watching tortures or erotic floor shows or whatever and is supposed to have said of of caligula that he was rearing someone fated to prove a viper to the roman people

again the kind of the resonance of of the myth is so overwhelming that it kind of becomes historically significant in its own right so tiberius watches caligula it is said encourages him in you know joining in watching tortures or erotic floor shows or whatever and is supposed to have said of of caligula that he was rearing someone fated to prove a viper to the roman people

I mean, that's most improbable. Tiberius was, he felt that he was a deep patriot. He would not have wanted to rear a viper. But this is the perspective that will come to be put on it because, of course, Suetonius and other historians know what is going to happen, know the kind of man that Caligula is going to be. So 16th of March, 37, Tiberius dies.