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Former DOGE employee: work could 'cross extreme ethical and legal lines'
I had been in the private sector for quite a while, actually, for all my career previously, and I really wanted to dedicate myself to using my skills to help people and help the American people.
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Former DOGE employee: work could 'cross extreme ethical and legal lines'
I worked on everything from how to implement AI in the government after the previous administration's executive orders. I worked on projects to help improve the benefit delivery system and improve the timeliness of benefit systems across the United States.
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Former DOGE employee: work could 'cross extreme ethical and legal lines'
On January 21st, we were all required to attend 15-minute interviews with people who only identified themselves as Doge and their first names. At that point, it was unclear if these were government employees or not. And after those interviews... We got the response of no comment on whether our projects should change.
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Former DOGE employee: work could 'cross extreme ethical and legal lines'
And so it was a time of extreme uncertainty, but we tried to stay focused on the projects. And I know for me, try and just continue the work for as long as I could.
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Former DOGE employee: work could 'cross extreme ethical and legal lines'
No, it was completely uncertain. And U.S. Digital Service, or the organization formerly known as such, tried many different avenues to get any clarity on who our bosses were, who we were reporting to, who we could even ask for a simple HR question. It left us very isolated and
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Former DOGE employee: work could 'cross extreme ethical and legal lines'
Yeah, there are quite a few. One of the big ones, and there has been information that has come out that is incorrect, is in regards to the Social Security Administration. The access to that data is that data contains all the information on any person who has ever been eligible for Social Security.
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Former DOGE employee: work could 'cross extreme ethical and legal lines'
It doesn't mean that it's somebody who is actively receiving Social Security, and perhaps it could be somebody who passed away quite a long time ago. That data, not only is it being utilized incorrectly, but The access to it and the feeding it into other systems makes all of that data and all of the American people's data very insecure.
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Former DOGE employee: work could 'cross extreme ethical and legal lines'
I would say that is a gross mischaracterization of the United States digital service as a whole. While we were founded during the Obama administration era, United States Digital Service still operated during the first Trump administration and was able to do good work during that time.
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Former DOGE employee: work could 'cross extreme ethical and legal lines'
We cover the gambit as far as our political leanings and part of being an EOP employee and the oath that we swear to the Constitution when we start is to operate in a nonpartisan, nonpolitical way. We are here to serve the American people. It is not a political issue.
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Former DOGE employee: work could 'cross extreme ethical and legal lines'
The first real tipping point came when many of my colleagues were fired for seemingly no reason, when they had been performing exceptionally at their jobs and were dedicated to serving this country and to help improve this country's governmental systems.
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Former DOGE employee: work could 'cross extreme ethical and legal lines'
The second tipping point came when it became clear that the former United States Digital Service would be asked to become more involved with Doge's activities. And
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Former DOGE employee: work could 'cross extreme ethical and legal lines'
those activities are the antithesis of what United States Digital Service was founded upon and what the mission has been to do the most good for the most amount of people, to go where the work is, and to hire and empower great people, which means supporting our agency partners and uplifting the federal servants. I realized that my actions would, if I stayed,
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Former DOGE employee: work could 'cross extreme ethical and legal lines'
would just further legitimize Doge and potentially cross extreme ethical and legal lines.
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Former DOGE employee: work could 'cross extreme ethical and legal lines'
Some of the activities that Doge has currently been focused on are gaining access to government systems that house the American people's data. And with that, it is unclear whether they are upholding privacy and security standards that are regularly practiced throughout the government before the new administration came in.
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Former DOGE employee: work could 'cross extreme ethical and legal lines'
There is a high risk of the American people's data being exposed or being utilized for nefarious means. And it also creates the opportunity for potential foreign actors to come in and get access to that data as well. That is completely across the line, both legally and ethically, and something I realized I could no longer do good from the inside and that I must leave.
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Former DOGE employee: work could 'cross extreme ethical and legal lines'
Thank you.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
Most people these days aren't too smart. The reason why I say that is because most people think digging is the way that you end up finding oil. That's not necessarily the case. Another way is looking for terrorists and weapons of mass destruction. Little bit about myself. My birthday is 4-20. For most people, that's a day of celebration, right?
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
But every so often I get somebody who'll come and let me know like, hey, do you know you share a birthday with Hitler? And I go, wow, that's an interesting fact. No one's ever told me that before in 27 years. And they go, how does it feel to share a birthday with such a bad guy? And I go, who, Hitler? They go, yeah, Hitler is well known for killing 4.6 million Jews in Germany.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
And I go, okay, but like, what did he do wrong? For those of you who are smart in the crowd, you would have heard that joke and go, wow, 4.6 million, that guy must be off. But the thing is, I don't necessarily count the women. Thank you, I think I'm gonna leave it there. Okey dokey, hell yeah.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
That's the first thought that usually comes out of people's mouths.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
It's my son, Derry King. I'm one of the ones that are good at spelling.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
It stands for Drama King. That is what it means.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
I did that one, clearly. Well, I don't know how clearly. Well, my friends did that one, but I rolled with it.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
So give us a time in which you were dramatic. So the reason why I got this name is because I'm very emotional for a man. Like I like to sit around with my friends and talk about God and consciousness. And I'm like, ah, I think we should be loving each other. They're like, that's gay. You are very dramatic for a man. Okay, yeah.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
Yeah, so, I mean, that's who I am, and I just, I roll with that, you know? I love it. I love it.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
So I work as a valet driver at this hotel up the street.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
I definitely get a lot of side eyes, Ari. Mr. Drama King, please take my car. No, no, no. My real name is Timothy. That's not a hidden fact. Timothy is nice. Drama King, you should be... No, but the people just call me DK. No, Drama King.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
Yoni told me, this was a while ago, so my memory might be a little bit scratchy. None of it was on Yoni. All of it was on me.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
Yeah. So I didn't know who Yoni was. He came and he approached me and told me to step off, step away from the sidewalk while smoking. Nobody tells Drama King to step off the sidewalk. No, no, no, that wasn't the issue. Don't talk to Drama King. I felt the intention behind it was kind of malicious. Like, I didn't know who he was.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
Clearly he had the authority to be doing that and it made sense at the time.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
He is, he is. Yeah, I've had a conversation with him after. He's a great man. You thought it was some random guy telling you to get off the sidewalk? I thought it was somebody who worked at Poor Choices.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
I'm not even at the building. I'm off to the sidewalk. Right in front of the door, I'm guessing?
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
Yeah, I mean, I smoked a blunt with you about two and a half years ago.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
Where did we smoke this blunt? So, it was at the back of the creek in the cave. This was when...
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
Yeah. It was during the Legion of Skanks show. You came out in a cowboy outfit. There was pretty much no one there.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
No, I was smoking a blunt and I asked you if you wanted to hit it and you were like, sure, man. Yeah, that's right.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
What did you guys do? It was right after Tony was going through a situation, and he was... The pang-dang, you said, right? Yeah, we were talking about the state of comedy, et cetera, and he was like, yeah, man, you know, people... All right. What's going on?
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
Two more, Tony. I mean, this is wonderful. All right.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
No, no, no, no, no. I mean, if there is anything you should know about my character, it's that I've done a lot of psychedelics, and that's just about it. Hell yeah. The only thing that I consider very significant, over 100 heroic dose trips.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
Over 100? Yeah, like doing ounces of mushrooms.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
Yeah, that is a lot. But I'm here, and I'm lucid, and I'm cognizant, so... No, you're not actually here right now. Must be some lies. They're all together.
KILL TONY
#702 - MARK NORMAND + ARI SHAFFIR + SHANE GILLIS
Yeah, I definitely do. It's one thing that I'm very known for, tripping, both physically and mentally. Ah! What the fuck was that, Red Band?