Diane Warren
Appearances
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Well, sadly, it's me.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I love that.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Probably, I mean, it's a legitimate question.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Like that I... Well, I always thought I could do this, you know, and make a living at it.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
But the first time I like, it was like, wow, I... I have a hit record was Rhythm of the Night.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
85, like 40 years ago this year. So weird. I was like five when I wrote it. I was such a prodigy. Yeah, so that was... Great song. Thank you. Yeah, it's...
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
How cool is that?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
What did your dad play?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Wow.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Rhythm.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I think I'd just gotten my drum machine, a Lin drum, is that what it would have been at the time?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
And I was like playing around with it. That's how that song started.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Well, I was signed to this German publisher. His name was Jack White, not White Stripes, Jack White. So it was like my first publishing deal. So I was kind of... I don't know if I'm answering the question, but...
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, drum machine, like, you know, keyboards. And I have a couple of rooms in my old place. And I have a piano, a grand piano in one room. So I kind of just kind of float around all those rooms. And then I go to the other one and I write in the studio sometimes.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Of those days, like it seemed a lot more fun. Like, you know, that era.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Before it got really corporate, yeah.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
And then later on I became, a couple of my friends were in promotion, record promotion. So I would go out with them and, you know, remember La Dome back in the day? Yeah.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
You know, and all those places that were like just, and I wasn't really a partier. I was, you know, I wanted to get to work the next day. And I'd be staying at my friend's house, you know, and getting ready to get up to work. And, you know, her roommate would be coming. They were all coked out of their minds. They're coming back in the morning. And I don't know. Those were crazy days.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
It must be weird to get in now where it's all about TikTok.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Would the greatest artist in the world be signed now? Would Prince be signed? If his TikTok numbers were high?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Probably, which is so sad.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
So I grew up, I came up when it wasn't like that. And I'll be in the studios. I work with a lot of young artists. And I'll be like, oh, so why aren't they promoting that song? Oh, it's a great song. It's a great record. Oh, the TikTok numbers aren't high. Oh, the data. Like... You know, the data that matters is does it make the hair on your arm stand up? Does it make you feel something?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
And it's so tech data, you know, it's the antithesis of... Yeah, it's not a harp.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Now, imagine you get... Well, doors can open, but if your TikTok numbers aren't high... But that's what's so crazy. Like in the Springsteen days where they'd wait to... I think it was his second album that broke, you know? It wouldn't have even been his second single. Yeah, I mean... They would have dropped him.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Oh, I've worked with some of them. You know, yes. And it's like, oh, my God. It was like some kind of viral TikTok thing that was lightning in a bottle. This isn't a real artist. It's like they're not going to last.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
You know, and I, yeah, I deal with that sometimes.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Oh, I always knew I didn't want to be the person behind the microphone. I always knew I just wanted to write.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Again, maybe I made that up. No, I've never been a frustrated artist. I never, no. But I did start a record that I might finish just for the fuck of it. Like not that I care about it. But like, no, I like being, I'm very happy behind the scenes with better singers singing my songs.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
It's happened. It's happened.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Once it's a hit, I'm like, well, it's the right voice.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
You're lucky you're a great singer.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
You know, I'm like, you know, Blanche Dubois in Streetcar Named Desire. I always depend on the kindness of strangers.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
You know, no, I try to write the best song I can write. And then, like, a lot of my songs go different ways. But, like, I just try to write a great song. But then as I'm writing it, I'm thinking, oh, that could be right for so-and-so. Or someone that I never thought of, like Steven Tyler. Like, I don't want to miss a thing.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Like, I never in a million years thought Steven Tyler would be, A, would ever do my song.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Isn't that weird that it's weird? It's weird. Like people go, God, you write songs by yourself. I go, yeah, why is, it's weird that it's weird.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
And B, that that would have been a song for him. But now I can't imagine anybody else.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Depends on what movie you're in.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
You mean like a voice I'm hearing? I write so many different genres of songs. Like, you know, I go from like I just did something with Anjali Kidjo. And then I'll go from that to, you know.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
So it's not one. In other words, so it's not one voice.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
It's kind of whatever voice is right for that song.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
No, it's interesting. I mean, there are big questions.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Me too. Like it's like life to me.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Well, sadly, it's me.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
But you can really sing. See, I don't like to listen to myself sing. So sometimes I'm writing and I pretend I'm somebody else.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Well, no, it's like, it might be an artist. It might be when I'm writing, I'm like imagining someone doing it. But then I come back to earth and I have to hear me, so...
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yes. I love it.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I just try to, I want to write a great song. Hopefully it's a great single too.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
But you never know what's going to, like some things, you never know. I just try to write great songs. I want them to sound like they could be hits. I want them to all connect. I want them to write songs that connect.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I have to think. Anytime any of them are successful, I'm always shocked. To be honest, because everything can work against it. So when one comes through, it's like, oh my God, what didn't fuck up there?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
People started liking songs that they didn't like a week before. I remember that. I love this town. You know, yeah, right? And then the ones that go.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
But no, the, it's so weird now there's so many people like there'll be like 10 people in a room like a writing camp I'm like that you know I mean I you know can I talk like that I'll be believing me a lot um but yeah so uh it's to paint the picture for our great audience like
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
And all the ones that didn't want to sign you go, oh my God, I always believed in you and stuff. But it's okay. You know, you just smile and go, yeah.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I can if I have to. I mean, right now I have a TV show that I helped develop that's a big Disney music show.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
It's being filmed now. So it's about three young girls.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Well, it's called How We Became the Biggest Band in the World. So it's about these three girls. They meet in junior high.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, so I'm writing songs for them. But I'm writing hit songs that are authentic to who they are. So it is kind of writing to order.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I kind of tend, I like D. I had a feeling. Yeah, isn't that weird? Maybe it's because my name starts with a D. No, I'm just kidding. I don't know. I think we, you know, on the guitar, C and G. I mean, all those normal keys. But, you know, I like D flat. I've written some good songs on D flat.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, yeah, darker.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Well, I basically do.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
It's just what I, yeah, it's what I'm comfortable. I like taking something from nothing and building, like we're world builders in a way, right?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
You know, like every song is a world and it has its own laws and its own rules that only fit that. And I love doing that. I love creating those worlds.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Do you have like... I mean, my advice for anything, if you want to succeed, is show up.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah. I mean, you've got to show up. You've got to show up and work.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Well, yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, I think I've allowed that to happen. I try not to now, but I try not to write about something, but you know.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Wow. You know, the data that matters is, does it make the hair on your arm stand up? Does it make you feel something?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
You mean like learning someone else's song?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
A breakthrough of going to another level of writing?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Well, I'll give an example. I mean, I don't know if I'm answering your question, but when I wrote that song, when I wrote Because You Loved Me, I was like, this is a whole different level of my writing. And when I wrote it, I go, this song is better than me. And I have to catch up to that song.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, there's... I don't know.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I go, this is, well, how did I write that? And I have to catch up to that because that's just one to other.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I don't even know how to break it down. It was the level.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
No, it was just the craft of it or something. It was just, I don't know. I felt like it was... Like, I don't analyze stuff. I just kind of do.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I just don't really sit in it. And like, I just knew, I just knew that, that, that, you know, when you get that feeling, you know, it's like, it's a breakthrough.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
There's cassettes. There's everything. I mean, it's like... There's probably like dinosaur eggs in there. I don't know. I've been there so long. Who knows what's there? I'm either... I'm probably immune to every disease because like I've been there for 40 years without cleaning it.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah. I have no clue how I do what I do. So I just show up.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
That's all right.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
One of the ABBA girls.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
But you're going in the old days, a lot of those.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I mean, it's just... It's a lot of people on there.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Okay, then if you flatter me, I have to flatter you.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Oh.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I mean, I don't think about it. I kind of forgot some of those people on the list. I'm like, Renee Frogger.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Probably. I've written a lot of songs.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Wow. Irving Berlin's a hero.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I know, and he had that thing on his piano.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
So... The mold won't even go in there.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, I think he played in, what, was it in D-flat or something?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, me neither.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Right, wow. And he just never bothered to learn how to play in different keys.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I don't know. It's like, right now you can just press a button.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah. I think I'm tied, me and Lionel Richie, with the most number ones solo written.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Great guy, too. Really nice guy.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I like that. Someone else called me an assassin.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I love that.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I love it. I love that.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Someone, like, not that long ago called me a trained assassin. I'm like, I like that.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I know, but you probably are, too.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, so you'd get me.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Weird, I know.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
It's never enough, no.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Oh, wow. You a snobby musician?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I mean, I like just to work on one song at one time. Because I have to give it my full attention. Because I have to really make that song as good as I can make it.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Okay, so... But you're talking to me. And I'm like the most uncool person in the world.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Okay.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I don't want to miss a thing.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
All right. It felt like it was this... Aerosmith did a Diane Lawrence, huh? It was like... They sold out.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Oh, I didn't see that.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Probably the Grammys, right?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
So I didn't go either. Exactly. I'd rather go to the Oscars.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Oh, wow.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I love that.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I like to have a concept of something I want to write.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
That should be my nickname, too. Oh, yeah. No, but it's great. It is... I mean, this is a cliche, but it's just great to be just nominated, but it really is, especially with the Oscars.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
No, but there's only five songs. They only picked five out of five.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Well, I wrote one of five, 16 times.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Oh, yeah. Then I would definitely win. No, but this... I'm really excited about this year. This, you know, maybe... Maybe it'll happen. You know, it's a really good song.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
No, but not that I can teach anything, but I like something that's going to compel me to write it. But it might be just playing some chords, like that happens too.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Okay, yeah, don't do that.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Like, don't you feel better when you write and you write something great?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, me too. Even starting one where I just go, oh, I... Love this. Yeah, it's totally therapeutic.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
It didn't hurt me, you know?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I bought David Geffen's house, like his little house.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
No, not the small one where his boyfriend was living at the time a while ago. And I tried to negotiate the price down. And he said, you're crazy. You need to see my shrink. And she was this woman named Beatrice Foster and she was kind of this mean Argentinian. But my friends would, you know, people I knew would go, you know, it's going to hurt your writing and all that.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
And it didn't, you know, it didn't hurt my writing at all.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah. So...
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I mean, that shrank, the mean Argentinian one. She's the one who said, I have Asperger's. So I never technically was diagnosed. But I think we're probably all on the spectrum that do this. Yeah, that's kind of why I wanted to ask, because it seems like one of those things where it's like... I mean, to sit there and do, like, sit and do one line of a song all day long, you have to figure it out.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I mean, you've got to be a little bit weird.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
No, it might be just a title. I don't know.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, so, I mean, I think people put names on all these things. I mean, what does that really mean, you know?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, that happens. Yeah, it does.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah. As long as you feel... Yeah, feel compelled to do it. Or I might just be playing chords, you know, and then not knowing what, you know, but I don't ever write a lyric first and write music to it. I've never done that.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
No, I wish that happened.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
You're lucky.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Okay, so I don't have that brain. I wish I did.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
That's amazing.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
No. If I've dreamt something, I don't remember it. So I don't really dream songs become songs.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
In the dream, they sound like... Everything looks better and sounds better.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
That's amazing.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
You got any?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I don't know. That's just my life. I like to sleep with a cat. Yeah.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
No, so she's kind of useless. No, but I could stay awake just to hear her purring. So I rewrote the Aerosmith song.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
being out of relationship in the literal sense of the word that creates an ambience around love that keeps it in a certain place for you because you've written so many love songs i could fall in love in every song because i could be in that in that that character and then i'm out of it and i'm on the next one i can write a new song next and i can write you know so you know it's just yeah i've never got the memo i had to be in a relationship with anybody it's just not me
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I'm just seeing what happens.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I don't know.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Not really. Do you?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Oh, I'm sorry.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I think mine, I do think there's a theme in some of my songs. Okay, good.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Like, you know, proving people wrong. You know, there's always that, like, you know, you, I'm going to get through it. I'm going to.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Even in the journey, even like my latest song with her.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
We're going to win this time. Sweet 16, come on. But basically that's what the song is about. When you're going with your heart, you can go farther than you ever thought possible. Prove them all wrong.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
It's the journey.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, yeah.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
No, it's basically... It's just basically that against all odds, just like, you know, growing up a mile away from here and I'm sitting here talking about a career that I know is one in a billion.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I mean, you know, so I don't lose sight of that.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I probably don't know how to write rap. Okay. But I can write for rappers that sing. But I think I've, you know... Yeah, that's probably the, you know... Yeah. I don't know. Maybe death metal wouldn't be what I would do.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I bet you could write amazing for Broadway.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
No, just not knowing that I wouldn't be able to do it or want to do it.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I kind of, kind of am, you know, but it's not, that's not why I don't want to clean my room.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
You know... Not a lot of melody there. Not a lot, not a lot.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I appreciate it, but...
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, there's always new ones.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, yeah. I'm always on to the next one.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Probably. I don't think about it. I just do it.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
No, I just, you know, it's just what I do.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
You know?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Just get better at it. I want to just keep writing great songs.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, and there's a couple of things I'm kind of doing.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, there's one that's in development that's been written and stuff. So it's a bunch of my hits, but with new songs. But it's not my day job. It's not really my world, but it's cool if it works. It just takes forever.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
No, I'm just too lazy. I don't know. I kind of like it. I'm used to it. I like it.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
It's not as, you know, it takes too long. It takes a long time. It's not as, you know.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, it's still, you know.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, exactly. If I do musicals, I want to do ones that are hit songs.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
The ones my parents played.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Those were great hit songs. And you can modernize them.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Ray Charles.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Well, when I do my musicals, there's going to be hits.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, exactly.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
No. Well, it has four legs.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
What am I fighting against?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Right.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I don't know what they'd understand. I don't know if anybody understands anybody, really.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Okay. Like, so... So if it... It has to be... I'm being authentic to what is being said in that song.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
It depends depending on the song.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
You know, it depends on... Yeah, just because you've written so many great love songs, I almost wonder... Yeah, but not everything's... I have some good, you know, songs that aren't love songs.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, it's like anything. I mean, it makes it easier if you feel safe. It's like, you know, I don't know how to answer that. I just, I like to be comfortable and then I could just not think about where I am. Because, you know, when we write, we kind of, it transports us.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Right. So even if it's about something else, there's a subliminal thing.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Did you ever get to know her?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Right.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
And now it's Instagram, isn't it?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Right, right.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
It was like, it looked... Enticing.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I mean, I didn't name it the cave. So it's a place I've been writing for.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I wonder how many people came to Hollywood and, you know.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
With that, like thousands.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Right.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
And they came here and there was like a million of them.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, or the other city right next door to you that you didn't know. But, you know, growing up, like I said, right down the street from here, you know, Hollywood was a million miles away, too.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Well, just when I'd go, you know, going over the hill to have meetings and it just seemed like, it was almost like being from the Midwest, being in the valley. But not the idealized thing, you know, not like, you know.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
No, no, they're gone. Yours?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, we're orphans.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Well, my dad, a long time ago. He was 70 in 87. My mom in 2002.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, yeah. Oh, he'd call radio stations and request songs. That's so amazing. Yeah, it was kind of cool. That must have felt... Yeah, and then I got a good friend from that because one of the people he called, I ended up becoming really good friends with.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
You know, she saw a lot of it, and she would say she's proud of me, but she wouldn't, you know. I'd say, you know, Mom, I just got a check for, like, some ridiculous amount of money. She goes, well, how much are you going to keep?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah. Yeah.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
It's really just even though I got a lot of distraction in my room, like it's all messy and disgusting. But in my mind, it doesn't I don't notice anything. I don't. Yeah. You know, I could I drive down sunset a million times and I'll go, oh, you know, I'll see something not realize it's been there for 30 years. I've been driving by it, but I just don't notice.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, in the Depression era, because my parents were older parents when they had me.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
A lot of them.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Not all of them. Nice talking to you.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Thank you.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Not as much, but I do like a good horoscope. I believe in it when it's a good horoscope.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I just call it my disgusting writing room. I don't know. I mean, you know, Robert Hilburn one time wrote an article on what used to be called the calendar. It was a magazine. It was a really long time ago. And he called it the cave. But I never called it that. I mean, I don't call it anything really. I just call it my room, you know. I've had it for almost 40 years.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I'm not sure if the last part of it makes sense because I don't know how nurtured I was growing up.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, my dad was really supportive. My mom was like, how are you going to make a living doing that? You know, and I grew up really literally a mile away from where we're sitting right now. It's pretty cool.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
But yeah, you know, I mean, the chances of, look, same with you. Like, what are the chances that we would, that you'd be successful for me?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
You know, I don't know. I didn't have anybody in my family that was in music. You know, my dad sold insurance.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Because it was probably hard for him, and he didn't want you to have that life.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Right, right.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Just hanging out with my friends, getting stoned all the time. You're talking about like when I was a little kid or when I was about...
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Well, I was obsessed with music before I even, you know. At what age? Seeing the Beatles.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, on Ed Sullivan. But I saw them in person, too, because I have older sisters.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I saw them at the Hollywood Bowl and Dodger Stadium.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I remember a lot of screaming. But I remember making my mom buy me Meet the Beatles after seeing them on that. So I think that fuse lit everybody up.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
And I was obsessed with music, and I got to hear everything growing up in my house. My parents listened to show tunes. I had older sisters.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Which is weird, because I don't really hear that, but it's an interesting thing.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
A melody thing.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Right. You see that? I see that. But anyways, when I was 11, my dad got me a little guitar from Tijuana. I started making up songs. And he was taking me to a guitar teacher and the guitar teacher wanted me to learn scales. I think it was... It was somewhere on Balboa and Devonshire. So it's around here too. It's so weird.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
And he told my dad not to bring me back because I had no future in music because I didn't want to learn the scales. I wanted to make up my own songs. So that's when I started getting the bug, you know, to write.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Not exactly. I remember some of the old songs, but not the exact first one.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
So whatever was on in... Yeah, because radio, when I grew up, it was like KRLA, KFWB, KHJ. They played everything. So it wasn't like so fragmented like it is now.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, it's kind of... I mean, I like it in there. I was there today. I start every day there, you know?
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, but you could hear everything. You could hear The Beatles. You could hear Motown.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Downtown, great song.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
It's a great key change in the world.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
So I got to hear, it was like getting this master class of songwriting. Because to me, that was the golden age. I love the Brill Building, that era.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I think he saw something in me.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
It's hard to define. I think my dad was, you know, like after he retired, he would work with actors at this place called the Migot Theater down, it was on... What was it? Satakoi around White Oak. And I think my dad was like a frustrated performer almost or something. Anyways, but he totally supported me. He would take me to publishers and stuff.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
About nine, a little after nine.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
You're lucky you're a great singer.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I was like an arrogant little asshole.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
About 15 or 16.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Let me see. One time, this was funny. So I was like probably about 16 or 17. My dad took me to see a publisher, you know, and the guy, he liked my songs, but he didn't, you know, he said, well, you know, why don't you go in the studio, do some demos? My dad goes, if you like him so much, why aren't you spending your money? I'll never forget that. You know, but... Yeah.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Because I read some... I just, you know, I... My normal work days, I show up like around nine o'clock and just start writing. Then I also have a building where my studio is a couple of blocks away. So I usually start out at my old place.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
You know, and then I made my dad get me a subscription to Billboard, where I studied everything. You know, who wrote everything, who produced... Okay, so when you started doing that... Yeah.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, I would see different names, you know.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Well, seeing Goffin King was one of the first things I ever saw in a single that when I said I want to be in that parentheses.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, Goffin King. I mean, like I knew Carole King more as a songwriter from Tapestry. Yeah.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Because that world building era to me is like the greatest, you know, songs ever.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
You know.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, those little cubicles. That's why I like to be in little, like that's why I like my room. You know, I kind of feel like I created my own version of it.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, I mean... You know, I loved all the Holland Does Your Holland songs, all the Motown songs, all the... Like, you know, I would... Yeah. You know, people like that. And then I would just, you know, really get into... You know, like, I hated school. I failed everything, you know, basically.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
And I didn't give a... Yeah. Like... You know, but when you find what you, probably like you, you find music or you find something you love.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, it's like, okay, like I want to know everything. I want to know, and I just, yeah, I would just study everything.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I grew up here, so I could see it from the outside, I guess. You think it's like probably like Beach Boys and I'm around the beach. No, I mean, we were in the valley, me and my friends, you know, we had our little, you know, group of weirdos, you know, I mean, you know, so it was, you know, it wasn't like we thought the California dream because we were not that we were living the California dream.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
We just were like valley kids.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
glamorous yeah and cool or whatever yeah but that's what i love about you saying your dad took you to publishers like he was like let's get in in there like yeah because that's where you would go that's where he would take and then there was this thing called the songwriter showcase that my dad would take me to tell me let's explain that it was len chandler and john brahaney where they they had a showcase that they'd showcase for publishers and stuff and my dad would take me there he first took me i was like 15 and i was like they didn't really like the songs i first brought them and i'd argue and say you don't know what you're talking about i was
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, not necessarily recording, but I go have lunch and then I might have a meeting or I might, like today, I was just recording something before I got here. So it's all kind of, but I like to start out the day just by myself. Like I have my company that used to be at that place.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I was such an arrogant little brat, you know. And then my dad would, you know, go, you need to listen to them. And they'd go, Mr. Warren, go in the other room. And then, you know, they'd talk to me. And then I'd come back the next week with five more songs. I kept coming back. And then finally, you know, I got to be on their showcase. I was like 16 years old or something, you know.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
But, you know, I don't know. I'm always someone that keeps coming back.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Relentless.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yes, I am relentless.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Oh, I thought I could do this when I had no reason to. I thought I was great when I wasn't. But I think you have to have that. You have to have a little bit of that kind of self-deception.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I mean, what makes anybody great is, I don't know, hard work and talent.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
And you can't have one without the other.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Talent without work doesn't mean work without, hard work without talent doesn't mean.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, totally.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Yeah, this is it. And I'm still as driven and hungry as I am ever.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
You know, yeah, I never, like my rear view mirror, it doesn't work. So I just, I don't look at it.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
And I can always get better. So I always want to get better at what I do.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
No, no.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I don't even know where the laurels are.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Up to us, yeah. You have a gift, but it's what you do with it.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
And then the COVID shutdown happened and everybody stayed home. And I was like, but I went there every day. I go, I really like it. I like being here by myself. And I just bought the other place and I was making that to be where the company would move to.
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Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I didn't feel there was a prohibition because it was never anything I desired. You know what I mean? I just wanted a right. And I never felt... Like, I never felt, because I was a girl, that it was going to be harder.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
I didn't really feel any of that.
The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Diane Warren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
Maybe that's just your... I think it's also different if you're an artist, if you're being a female artist, that what might be, you know, a different kind of thing, I'm thinking.