Detective Ryan Porter

I more or less jumped in. A lot of what I learned about this case was on the fly through him explaining things and me asking questions.

I more or less jumped in. A lot of what I learned about this case was on the fly through him explaining things and me asking questions.

There was just a lot of weird things that he had brought up. She's cooperative one day and then she shuts it off. She hires an attorney. That's not somebody that's a widow that has absolutely nothing to do with a case would do.

There was just a lot of weird things that he had brought up. She's cooperative one day and then she shuts it off. She hires an attorney. That's not somebody that's a widow that has absolutely nothing to do with a case would do.

It made no sense to me why somebody who, if they had no involvement whatsoever, would not cooperate, let you talk to their kids, let you talk to everybody.

It made no sense to me why somebody who, if they had no involvement whatsoever, would not cooperate, let you talk to their kids, let you talk to everybody.

Especially Britton and Catherine would have had more information because of their age difference.

Especially Britton and Catherine would have had more information because of their age difference.

Let's make another run at our kids. They're adults now, let's go take a run.

Let's make another run at our kids. They're adults now, let's go take a run.

Kyle had already done a lot of the footwork in locating where the three children were located, you know, Emily, Catherine, as well as Britton, where they were at. We were very optimistic we were going to get someplace.

Kyle had already done a lot of the footwork in locating where the three children were located, you know, Emily, Catherine, as well as Britton, where they were at. We were very optimistic we were going to get someplace.

Kids are scattered throughout the United States at that particular time. And when I say from East Coast to West Coast, I mean East Coast to West Coast.

Kids are scattered throughout the United States at that particular time. And when I say from East Coast to West Coast, I mean East Coast to West Coast.

Emily was so willing to meet and talk with us, but too much time and her age at the time of this makes it very difficult for her to recall things or get specific dates.

Emily was so willing to meet and talk with us, but too much time and her age at the time of this makes it very difficult for her to recall things or get specific dates.

Sandra kept her mouth shut. She doesn't necessarily talk about stuff. She appears to just be a habitual liar, and she can do it with no thought involved whatsoever. So that just tells me that she probably shielded the kids from as much as she could.

Sandra kept her mouth shut. She doesn't necessarily talk about stuff. She appears to just be a habitual liar, and she can do it with no thought involved whatsoever. So that just tells me that she probably shielded the kids from as much as she could.

Emily did talk to the detectives, though, but her interview... Didn't give us anything that was going to be helpful for the actual homicide. And it was on to the next one. From that, we left the next morning again at 6 a.m. and drove to central United States and tried to talk to Catherine.

Emily did talk to the detectives, though, but her interview... Didn't give us anything that was going to be helpful for the actual homicide. And it was on to the next one. From that, we left the next morning again at 6 a.m. and drove to central United States and tried to talk to Catherine.

She wouldn't come to the door.

She wouldn't come to the door.

They checked air flights to make sure she didn't fly back down to Dallas from Oklahoma City, which she didn't.

They checked air flights to make sure she didn't fly back down to Dallas from Oklahoma City, which she didn't.

So who around that time frame most likely had a driver's license that she knew well, she trusted, and she knew she could manipulate? I'll leave it at that. You're pretty smart. You'll figure it out.

So who around that time frame most likely had a driver's license that she knew well, she trusted, and she knew she could manipulate? I'll leave it at that. You're pretty smart. You'll figure it out.

I was trying to talk him into getting on the phone with you. And he just said, look, I would just, I would ruin the rapport between us and Dallas if that happened.

I was trying to talk him into getting on the phone with you. And he just said, look, I would just, I would ruin the rapport between us and Dallas if that happened.

You shouldn't want somebody that's, you know, a potential suspect of a homicide roaming your community and not helping the people that are trying to get them picked up and taken care of.

You shouldn't want somebody that's, you know, a potential suspect of a homicide roaming your community and not helping the people that are trying to get them picked up and taken care of.

I went to her house with Kyle and just the absolute sweetest lady. You meet her, you want to help her get closure, and it breaks your heart when you're sitting there and you know, I'm just not there. I'm just not there.

I went to her house with Kyle and just the absolute sweetest lady. You meet her, you want to help her get closure, and it breaks your heart when you're sitting there and you know, I'm just not there. I'm just not there.

If Sandra were to pass, I mean, I would be extremely hopeful that somebody would take another run at these kids with her gone now, just foreclosure.

If Sandra were to pass, I mean, I would be extremely hopeful that somebody would take another run at these kids with her gone now, just foreclosure.

Being a very Christian lady, you're taught to forgive no matter what.

Being a very Christian lady, you're taught to forgive no matter what.

I more or less jumped in. A lot of what I learned about this case was on the fly through him explaining things and me asking questions.

There was just a lot of weird things that he had brought up. She's cooperative one day and then she shuts it off. She hires an attorney. That's not somebody that's a widow that has absolutely nothing to do with a case would do.

It made no sense to me why somebody who, if they had no involvement whatsoever, would not cooperate, let you talk to their kids, let you talk to everybody.

Especially Britton and Catherine would have had more information because of their age difference.

Let's make another run at our kids. They're adults now, let's go take a run.

Kyle had already done a lot of the footwork in locating where the three children were located, you know, Emily, Catherine, as well as Britton, where they were at. We were very optimistic we were going to get someplace.

Kids are scattered throughout the United States at that particular time. And when I say from East Coast to West Coast, I mean East Coast to West Coast.

Emily was so willing to meet and talk with us, but too much time and her age at the time of this makes it very difficult for her to recall things or get specific dates.

Sandra kept her mouth shut. She doesn't necessarily talk about stuff. She appears to just be a habitual liar, and she can do it with no thought involved whatsoever. So that just tells me that she probably shielded the kids from as much as she could.

Emily did talk to the detectives, though, but her interview... Didn't give us anything that was going to be helpful for the actual homicide. And it was on to the next one. From that, we left the next morning again at 6 a.m. and drove to central United States and tried to talk to Catherine.

She wouldn't come to the door.

They checked air flights to make sure she didn't fly back down to Dallas from Oklahoma City, which she didn't.

So who around that time frame most likely had a driver's license that she knew well, she trusted, and she knew she could manipulate? I'll leave it at that. You're pretty smart. You'll figure it out.

I was trying to talk him into getting on the phone with you. And he just said, look, I would just, I would ruin the rapport between us and Dallas if that happened.

You shouldn't want somebody that's, you know, a potential suspect of a homicide roaming your community and not helping the people that are trying to get them picked up and taken care of.

I went to her house with Kyle and just the absolute sweetest lady. You meet her, you want to help her get closure, and it breaks your heart when you're sitting there and you know, I'm just not there. I'm just not there.

If Sandra were to pass, I mean, I would be extremely hopeful that somebody would take another run at these kids with her gone now, just foreclosure.

Being a very Christian lady, you're taught to forgive no matter what.