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Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 40 | This Family Vlogger Is Disgusting... | Ruby Franke Update
Ruby realizes that she still has work to do in shedding those thinking errors and to reestablish a better and correct pattern of thinking and behavior. Ruby realizes that changing her thinking Re-establishing relationships and healing are not simple or easy tasks. However, she is committed to doing that work.
Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 40 | This Family Vlogger Is Disgusting... | Ruby Franke Update
I would like the court to know that Ruby Franke is a delightful, respectful, and responsible person. She is open to feedback and addressing the consequences of her actions head on, and now ready to address your honor and accept your judgment.
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Silent Witness
So between the time you smoked the cigar and went back upstairs and went to sleep, did you leave that room until the next morning?
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Silent Witness
And I realized I didn't bring those papers. Why was it important to you that somebody get those papers?
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Silent Witness
Did you have any designs in your own mind of... Leaving Michelle Young for Michelle Money? No, sir. Describe why not.
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Silent Witness
This is the complaint that was filed in December seeking custody of Cassidy.
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Endgame
Is it fair to say that you have a history and have admitted to being an habitual liar?
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The Watcher
Yes, I did think they were. This, though defense attorney Hogue had known and admired Lauren. I was her teacher in a transition course from law school into law practice.
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Murder in Minot
You know, I saw them too. I don't see anything that jumps out to me as like, oh, my God, we got her. You know, it's small details. It's like we went from the house in Velva to the family function, and then, okay, in this first version we left out the bar. But why is that significant? She still isn't back in Minot where she would have had access to an EVA.
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Murder in Minot
I have. Can you describe him to the court? At the time, he looks fit, about 200 pounds, 6'2", short hair, dark hair. I don't know what color his eyes are. It matches the description given by Becky Ehrman of a person that she saw running away from the scene that night.
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Murder in Minot
Again, highly coincidental that a person matching the description almost to a T of Devin Hall, seen running away from the area of the crime scene with a dirty or bloody shirt, is something I, as an investigator, am going to thoroughly pursue.
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Murder in Minot
There's nothing to indicate on that video what the date was that it was recorded.
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Murder in Minot
What sticks out to me is there's very little context leading up to when this alleged confession was made. We know that there was this drunken party and that Nicole... has been reported as being belligerently drunk. Now, was she the only one that was that drunk? How drunk were the people that allegedly heard this confession? It doesn't make sense for me.
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Murder in Minot
There's a lack of attention to detail. There's a lack of thoroughness. They seem to spend a lot of attention running down dead-end rabbit holes while glossing over some very important facts, details. What, if anything, about this case piques your interest? I don't think we have the correct person.
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The Devil's in the Details
It was. Their case was flimsy. Their case was not about the murder. But bottom line is that they had no why, when, and how.
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The Devil's in the Details
She defrauded friends, relatives, investors. She was involved in a Ponzi scheme. The fact that she is perhaps a fraud and perhaps a cheat does not translate into being a murderer.
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The Devil's in the Details
I mean, and to say that that would be the dumbest criminal, I mean, this is an intelligent woman. So really those two things don't equate.
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The Devil's in the Details
I think any reasonable person would think that if they're jabbed with a needle and the person doing the jabbing doesn't advise you of what is in that syringe, I would call for help.
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The Devil's in the Details
Bodybuilders do take insulin some for gaining muscle mass and burning carbohydrates. There was some innuendo that he may have been injecting insulin at some point.
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The Devil's in the Details
Nobody was able to present any evidence to suggest that Natalie Cochran had a motive to kill her husband.
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The Devil's in the Details
So it was going to be what, a preemptive killing? Are they, are you kidding me? That's the prosecution's theory. That's absolutely absurd.
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The Devil's in the Details
I firmly believe that if he were alive, he would be sitting in prison as well.
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The Devil's in the Details
Michael was up to his eyeballs in the business that he and Natalie have created.
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The Devil's in the Details
It's overwhelming proof, ranging from his actions writing contracts, signing checks, to enjoying the harvest of their business.
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The Devil's in the Details
In... October of 2018, stayed in the hospital for one day, was released.
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The Devil's in the Details
I think it was in concert of everything. But at the end of the day, a physician prescribed him an anticonvulsive, which Natalie says he refused to take.
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The Devil's in the Details
Absolutely. Absolutely. It's certainly possible all these substances that he was taking could have had a neurologic effect that caused him to develop a seizure disorder.
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The Devil's in the Details
Well, they wanted to testify. They wanted to, yes. They wanted to clarify some of the issues that were before the court.
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The Devil's in the Details
In January of 2019, shortly before his death, how did he behave?
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The Devil's in the Details
He had this conversation with his daughter, which was, I mean, it was almost poignant. This was like a farewell to life.
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The Devil's in the Details
Yes. There's also conventional wisdom that the jury wants to hear the defendant say, I didn't do it.
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The Devil's in the Details
I believe Natalie Cochran has thought about the implications of testifying and may have consulted the parents, perhaps friends.
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The Devil's in the Details
He is unconscious, let's assume. And you want him dead. Well, let him die then.
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The Devil's in the Details
Because he, Michael Cochran, was as involved in this conspiracy as she was. He left jurors with a final thought. If you cannot answer these three questions, what, how, and first of all and foremost, why, then the state fails to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt.
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The Devil's in the Details
You never know what a jury's going to do, but I felt strong about the defense position.
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The Premonition
It was the first time. Talk about questionable. It doesn't sound like science to me. When Dateline continues.
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The Premonition
Talk about questionable science, junk science. The evidence was sent to the FBI, which is the premier lab for DNA testing. They found it to be 1 in 13,000. That is exceedingly low. And eventually, they send it to this new guy, Perlin. And Perlin says, I put it into my machine, and it comes out the other side, and it's 1 in 5 billion. 189 billion. OK.
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The Premonition
If you include Mars and Venus and everywhere, that's such a disparity that it doesn't sound like science to me.
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The Premonition
Right from the get-go, in the newspaper, they were pointing to Kevin Foley.
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The Premonition
He clearly heard someone yelling, I'll never loan you money again, and heard glass breaking. Of course, a window was shattered in this case. Kevin fully didn't owe Dr. Yelnik any money, so that certainly didn't fit in with Kevin.
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The Premonition
Kevin was someone you believed in, and I thought it was good that the jury got to meet him, so to speak.
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A Walk Through the Woods
I felt like that I need to be here and I need to help. Excuse me, that's what I do.
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A Walk Through the Woods
If we're going to come up with a defense, we're not going to pull Odinism out of the air. That's fantastical, right? I mean, this was driven by the evidence that was given to us.
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A Walk Through the Woods
There was nothing to gain by leaking those documents. I mean, there's just, there's no plausible gain.
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A Walk Through the Woods
Well, it felt, you know, from a defense perspective, it felt like a stacked deck.
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A Walk Through the Woods
Richard Allen has the right to present these alternative theories if they have some basis.
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A Walk Through the Woods
None of the people on the trail gave a description that matched Richard Allen.
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A Walk Through the Woods
He didn't have to do that. I don't know how somebody's supposed to react when the law enforcement gets on the TV saying, we need help. The easiest thing for him to do would have been to say nothing and leave Delphi. He did the exact opposite, which was he cooperated.
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A Walk Through the Woods
Five and a half years passed. Who, anyone here, anyone listening, who can tell you what they were doing to a specificity five and a half years ago?
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A Walk Through the Woods
None of the people on the trail gave a description that matched Richard Allen. Even the witnesses on the trail couldn't agree on what Bridge Guy was wearing. And, you know, it was jeans and a Carhartt-type coat. You're in a rural county in Indiana, probably half the men in that county have those clothes.
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A Walk Through the Woods
I was fairly well-versed in the ballistics arena. It's not what we would call or what a layperson would call science.
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A Walk Through the Woods
There's no dispute that... the round, the magic bullet that was found allegedly at the scene, was cycled and not fired. But when they conducted the examination, the test-fired rounds that they actually compared to our client's firearm were fired rounds. They were not test-cycled rounds. And so the simple way of describing that is they were comparing apples and oranges.
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A Walk Through the Woods
Those conversations, he would later go on to say, I think I killed them. Maybe I killed them.
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A Walk Through the Woods
The three of us here have been in this business a long time. We've all represented some of the worst humans on this planet. And none of us have ever seen somebody detained on a pretrial basis in the most secure unit in the state of Indiana.
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A Walk Through the Woods
That made him lose touch with reality, they said. When you're stuck in those circumstances, when you have no outside stimuli, you're stuck in a gray steel box day in, day out, lights on day in, day out. And you're trying to figure out why you might be held in this condition. It's not unrealistic that that's where you go. That's where your brain goes.
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A Walk Through the Woods
It's psychological warfare on a man who's a pretrial detainee.
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A Walk Through the Woods
It's textbook for an environment where somebody would spew some kind of false confession, where basically a man says, I give, I've had enough.
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A Walk Through the Woods
At the time that these statements are being made, it's hard to believe that you could give a lot of credibility to anything he was saying.
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A Walk Through the Woods
The ballistics and the magic bullet, it's just, this stuff is totally unreliable.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
You were a mooch. No, I wasn't. And your father saw you as the exact same way, mooching off of him.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
The state has introduced a case to you, and it is so full of holes.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
From day one, everything was tailored specifically to attempt to convict Melody of the It was a highly circumstantial case. There was no direct evidence to tie Melody, you know, to shooting Gary. There was no gun found in the house. Melody had no accelerants on her hands. There was none of that directly tied back to Melody.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
You got to have Gary alive to make the money because it didn't necessarily come out at trial. They weren't really cash rich. If Gary wasn't working, then there is no money.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
The blood leading down the stairs, for instance. They never tested any of the drops on the stairs. You had two drops on the basement floor that the crime lab determined that was Gary Ferris' blood.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
The weekend before, Gary Ferris had been bit by the dog, and he was bleeding when he went down the stairs from his ankle. As for the bullet found in the basement... There is no blood found around the bullet, no impact mark from the bullet on the floor. It is literally like the bullet was dropped and placed on the floor.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
And the last person who was in the basement prior to law enforcement arriving was Scott.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
How could a 120-pound woman move a 300-pound man down to a burn pile roughly 50 yards below the house in the woods on a relatively treacherous terrain? There is one person that could have done that, and that would have been Scott Ferris.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
And your father saw you as the exact same way, and he kept a very tight rein over you and your mooching off of him.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
When it came to Scott, I think it was important to show that if his mother is framed with murder, then he always saw that estate as his.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
He would claim things as his that were not his. That's fair to say.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
when we first learned about the phone call with Rusty Barton. That was, you know, the biggest, most damning piece of evidence.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
So I need you to explain those words to that jury right there.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
But then you tried to explain later that, yes, she told you about that, but that was after Gary was already found, right?
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A Little Patch of Perfect
From his testimony, he was under duress and he had to, quote, give them something. He later recanted that statement and said that she told him he was on the burn pile much later after Gary's remains had already been found.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
You didn't have any missing guns that you couldn't account for, right? No, sir.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
That was what she was most concerned about, that she couldn't show her face in town anymore. So she felt like she needed to say something.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
Who else has keys other than, I assume, the cleaning lady? Does she have a key? Oh, she may have a key. So Melody's got a key. Cleaning lady may have a key. Well, you're rusty. Rusty's got a key. Uh-huh. So at least five people.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
Well, that was my idea. I was constantly trying to think of what could I use for that demonstration. I think it starts to become clear why I'm doing this. Why am I dropping these bags? These bags are 40 pounds a piece. When I would drop one of the bags, you could feel the floor shake. And I wanted that to happen because I wanted the jury specifically to know how heavy this was.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
The whole trial, we were noting that he was 300 pounds. She was 120 pounds. It was impossible that she could have moved him. But there was a person on the property who could. And that's Scott Ferris.
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A Little Patch of Perfect
Yeah, it's very different reading essentially a self-prepared speech than it is being under cross-examination.
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Return to the Lake
I hope that Susan will be able to live with herself in prison for the rest of her life knowing that.
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Return to the Lake
It doesn't take away from the horrendous nature of the crime. She knows that she's guilty. She struggles with the guilt every day.
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Return to the Lake
I think that her motivation of being released is secondary. to the primary goal of if she can maybe help some other mother who is thinking of maybe the same things.
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A mom's desperate search to find her daughter. Tears and fury in an Ohio courtroom. And the latest in the Karen Read case.
What was your reaction when you found those?
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A mom's desperate search to find her daughter. Tears and fury in an Ohio courtroom. And the latest in the Karen Read case.
It's normal for you to break into other people's apartments.
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A mom's desperate search to find her daughter. Tears and fury in an Ohio courtroom. And the latest in the Karen Read case.
And it's not normal for you to conduct a search like this?
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A mom's desperate search to find her daughter. Tears and fury in an Ohio courtroom. And the latest in the Karen Read case.
How did you know to go to the apartment two times?
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The Idaho student murders: new details. Karen Read's voicemails. And Sean Combs's trial begins.
So they handcuffed her?
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The Idaho student murders: new details. Karen Read's voicemails. And Sean Combs's trial begins.
Even though she just confessed in front of a police officer, according to you?
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The Idaho student murders: new details. Karen Read's voicemails. And Sean Combs's trial begins.
I hit him. I hit him. It's my fault. I did it. That's a confession, correct?
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The Idaho student murders: new details. Karen Read's voicemails. And Sean Combs's trial begins.
And... Officer Serif just stands there, and my client walks away, correct?
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The Idaho student murders: new details. Karen Read's voicemails. And Sean Combs's trial begins.
The blood was stored in non-sterile solo cups, correct? Correct. We've agreed that those cups were not sealed. The cups themselves were not sealed. There was no cap. There was no plastic, plasticine, saran wrap, nothing put over the cups, correct? That is correct. So they were open... Yes. They were not in an evidence bag. They were in a grocery bag, correct? They were, yes.
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Emotional testimony from a killer. A murder defendant's unusual defense. And travel scam safety tips.
Do you recall telling her at the end of the day, all you care about is seeing my girls? Remember that?
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Emotional testimony from a killer. A murder defendant's unusual defense. And travel scam safety tips.
And things have to happen, but I mean, do I need to testify? What do you need? What can you do for me? What do you need from me so I can go see my girls? That's all that matters to me. Did you say that to her?
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Emotional testimony from a killer. A murder defendant's unusual defense. And travel scam safety tips.
And was that the truth?
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Emotional testimony from a killer. A murder defendant's unusual defense. And travel scam safety tips.
And the truth is, now that you have testified to what they need, you're going to go home and see your girls long before you would have had you been found guilty of this murder.
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The 911 call in the Hollywood hairdresser murder. And investigators explore links between six violent deaths and a group called the Zizians.
Everyone in America is watching.
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The 911 call in the Hollywood hairdresser murder. And investigators explore links between six violent deaths and a group called the Zizians.
Robert Baker decided that he was going to kill her husband. no reason that Monica would have wanted, no motive and no interest, and that it was Robert Baker who made that choice for her.
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The 911 call in the Hollywood hairdresser murder. And investigators explore links between six violent deaths and a group called the Zizians.
And during that period of time, Robert Baker, who you had every reason to believe was a cold-blooded killer, was left on the street, correct?
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The 911 call in the Hollywood hairdresser murder. And investigators explore links between six violent deaths and a group called the Zizians.
The focus was on Monica Cimentilli at that time.
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The 911 call in the Hollywood hairdresser murder. And investigators explore links between six violent deaths and a group called the Zizians.
Against Monica Cimentilli.
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The 911 call in the Hollywood hairdresser murder. And investigators explore links between six violent deaths and a group called the Zizians.
There was one that was shot dead and the other had three bullets.
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Verdict in the roommate murder trial. Mom accused of murder by fire and van. And, actor Dennis Quaid.
There was other work that was done in this case that showed other suspects that were much more culpable than Nicole.
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Verdict in the roommate murder trial. Mom accused of murder by fire and van. And, actor Dennis Quaid.
It was pressure from a TV show. a nationally syndicated program that came in, didn't dig up anything of substance, but put an incredible amount of pressure on the state's attorney's office, the police department, to bring charges in this case.
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A star defense witness takes the stand. The Zizians' leader in court. And a new scam called pig butchering.
Did she have anything to do with the planning or the execution of the plan to kill Fabio Cimentilli?
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A star defense witness takes the stand. The Zizians' leader in court. And a new scam called pig butchering.
You're sure?
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A star defense witness takes the stand. The Zizians' leader in court. And a new scam called pig butchering.
Now, is this something you had done before?
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A star defense witness takes the stand. The Zizians' leader in court. And a new scam called pig butchering.
How'd you get into league racquetball league?
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A star defense witness takes the stand. The Zizians' leader in court. And a new scam called pig butchering.
Okay. Well, did it. I will comment on that.
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A star defense witness takes the stand. The Zizians' leader in court. And a new scam called pig butchering.
And how did you determine when you would see her?
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A star defense witness takes the stand. The Zizians' leader in court. And a new scam called pig butchering.
So did she talk to you about ever tell you that she would divorce her husband for you?
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A star defense witness takes the stand. The Zizians' leader in court. And a new scam called pig butchering.
And eventually, did that become one of the reasons why you decided to murder him?
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A star defense witness takes the stand. The Zizians' leader in court. And a new scam called pig butchering.
Then what?
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A star defense witness takes the stand. The Zizians' leader in court. And a new scam called pig butchering.
Now, you are a convicted murderer, correct?
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A star defense witness takes the stand. The Zizians' leader in court. And a new scam called pig butchering.
And you committed a heinous crime.
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A star defense witness takes the stand. The Zizians' leader in court. And a new scam called pig butchering.
But are you telling the truth about what happened?
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Lori Vallow Daybell's phone calls. Karen Read's retrial set to start. And Houston's "lost boys".
So these came from me. She's a whack job. She's gross. No nudes so far. No nudes so far, correct? Correct. And you said that to your bosses. Yes, sir.
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An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
In the early morning hours of November 23rd, 2022, Jason Chen killed Jasmine Pace.
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An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
Jason Chen is a first-generation Chinese-American. His parents ordered a Chinese restaurant.
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An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
Jason decides that he has to cover this up. He has to hide what he's done.
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An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
You said you would do anything to find your daughter? Wouldn't you? Of course. Okay. To find my daughter?
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An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
Why are you doing this?
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An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
It did not have relevancy in terms of the arrest investigation.
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An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
He was involved in the Ponzi scheme. He knew about multimillion-dollar purchases, the toys, the houses, trips to Paris, trips to Hawaii, expensive, lavish lifestyle. And you have to ask yourself at the end of the case, she didn't know about it? Really?
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The Menendez brothers' chance at freedom. Questions for top investigator at Karen Read retrial. Plus, what's RICO?
Could you please introduce yourself to the jury?
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The Menendez brothers' chance at freedom. Questions for top investigator at Karen Read retrial. Plus, what's RICO?
On the day or the morning of January 29, 2022, do you know who was assigned to take calls for new cases? Yes.
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The Menendez brothers' chance at freedom. Questions for top investigator at Karen Read retrial. Plus, what's RICO?
Was there a supervisor assigned that morning?
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New evidence in Karen Read's retrial. Cold case arrest in Ohio. And a big ruling in Sean Combs case.
Do you know... what the temperature was in Canton, January 29th, 2022? I do not know. Don't you think that that would be an important piece of information? I didn't think it was.
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A mom's desperate search to find her daughter. Tears and fury in an Ohio courtroom. And the latest in the Karen Read case.
What was your reaction when you found those?
Dateline: True Crime Weekly
A mom's desperate search to find her daughter. Tears and fury in an Ohio courtroom. And the latest in the Karen Read case.
It's normal for you to break into other people's apartments.
Dateline: True Crime Weekly
A mom's desperate search to find her daughter. Tears and fury in an Ohio courtroom. And the latest in the Karen Read case.
And it's not normal for you to conduct a search like this?
Dateline: True Crime Weekly
A mom's desperate search to find her daughter. Tears and fury in an Ohio courtroom. And the latest in the Karen Read case.
How did you know to go to the apartment two times?
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Emotional testimony from a killer. A murder defendant's unusual defense. And travel scam safety tips.
Thank you. The people call Christopher Austin.
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Emotional testimony from a killer. A murder defendant's unusual defense. And travel scam safety tips.
All right. Thanks, everybody.
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Emotional testimony from a killer. A murder defendant's unusual defense. And travel scam safety tips.
Did you have a term that you referred to him as?
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Emotional testimony from a killer. A murder defendant's unusual defense. And travel scam safety tips.
What is that?
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Emotional testimony from a killer. A murder defendant's unusual defense. And travel scam safety tips.
And is Rob older than you then?
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Emotional testimony from a killer. A murder defendant's unusual defense. And travel scam safety tips.
How much older?
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Emotional testimony from a killer. A murder defendant's unusual defense. And travel scam safety tips.
Can you please identify where she's sitting and what she's wearing?
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Emotional testimony from a killer. A murder defendant's unusual defense. And travel scam safety tips.
What did Baker tell you about it?
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Emotional testimony from a killer. A murder defendant's unusual defense. And travel scam safety tips.
Did the agent say to you, to me it sounded like it's the bitch who planned everything? Do you remember him saying that to you?
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Emotional testimony from a killer. A murder defendant's unusual defense. And travel scam safety tips.
What did you say?
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Verdict in the roommate murder trial. Mom accused of murder by fire and van. And, actor Dennis Quaid.
There was other work that was done in this case that showed other suspects that were much more culpable than Nicole.
Dateline: True Crime Weekly
Verdict in the roommate murder trial. Mom accused of murder by fire and van. And, actor Dennis Quaid.
It was pressure from a TV show. a nationally syndicated program that came in, didn't dig up anything of substance, but put an incredible amount of pressure on the state's attorney's office, the police department, to bring charges in this case.
Dateline: True Crime Weekly
New evidence in Karen Read's retrial. Cold case arrest in Ohio. And a big ruling in Sean Combs case.
Do you know... what the temperature was in Canton, January 29th, 2022? I do not know. Don't you think that that would be an important piece of information? I didn't think it was.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Is there a way that you could, in general, look at a scratch and say, that scratch is from such and such date?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
And it's possible that any or all of those scratches on the Lexus could have predated January 29th, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
I'm saying it's possible since you can't date the scratch. It's possible that any or all of those scratches could predate January 29th. It's possible, right? It's possible.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
I'm not being broad. Let me ask it a different way. Let me ask it again. Is it possible that any or all of the scratches noted on that car became January 21?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
You testified that you noted glass on the rear bumper of the SUV, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
And you said something about that glass coming from the cup. Correct.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
You also said that you did not see anything on that SUV that could be the source of those glass pieces on the bumper, right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
When you did your reconstruction and your analysis, were you informed that none of the glass pieces, not one of them, could be matched to the cut?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
So if you knew that the glass pieces on the bumper do not match the cup, that change your opinion?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
That's not what you just said. You said that's what was told to me.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Can you describe for the jurors exactly what calculations you would need to employ to determine how far a body at rest would travel, having been struck by an object in motion?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
You're saying that the principles of physics as we know them today, in modern mathematics, is thwarted by a sideswipe?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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You would have to know what the initial momentum of the object is that's in motion, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Yeah, you'd have to know what the initial momentum is, not speed, momentum. There's a difference.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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You wouldn't have to calculate what the initial momentum is of the object in motion to determine the distance the body at rest would move?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Right, okay. Well, let's put the speed of the vehicle aside. Let's talk about initial momentum. What's the formula for calculating initial momentum?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Well, there's actually one type of momentum formula. Isn't it true, Trooper Paul, that there is a singular calculation for determining initial momentum? That is P equals M times V, where P is the momentum you're solving for that. M is mass. We multiply that by velocity. Is that right? Pretty simple.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Oh, because the pedestrian's somehow magically out of the realm of physics?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
So if the vehicle is too heavy and the body is too light, you can't calculate the initial momentum of the vehicle?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Got it, got it, got it. Would you need to apply the theory of conservation of momentum in calculating these data?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
You even know what that is? There's an equation for that as well, right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Based on the basic principles of physics, is the total momentum before the collision, is it greater or less than the total momentum after the collision? Basic question.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
They're exactly equal in all respects under the principles of physics, right? That's the theory of the conservation of momentum. Momentum doesn't change. It's transferred from one body to another. Yes. Correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Why didn't you say that to the jurors? Trooper Paul, if you were qualified to, quote, look into all this stuff, you would probably know these answers. Are there any other calculations that you'd need to figure out the stuff that you were talking to about with the grand jury? How about calculating the final velocity of the objects after the collision? Would that be important?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
That would be John O'Keefe's body, sir. The object you claim was flying through the air. How about calculating the displacement using kinematic equations? Would you be able to do that?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
In order to calculate how far the body would move based on the mass of the object striking the body. Could you use displacement using kinematic equations?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Are you saying that the principles of physics are incapable of determining with the proper calculations how far John O'Keefe's body would have moved given the collision at issue?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Well, you just said because it was a sideswipe, all these calculations, these physics calculations are inappropriate, right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
The truth is, Trooper Paul, you have no idea what all these physics calculations mean, do you? You've not been trained in physics formally, have you?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Right. You have a few classes that use the word physics, but you haven't been formally trained in physics, have you? You haven't been formally trained in kinematics, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
You haven't been formally trained and hold no degrees in biomechanics, do you?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
In fact, basically what you did in this case was calculated initial cycles. And you got those wrong.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Based on your reconstruction, nearly two-year investigation, exactly how was that taillight shattered? Explain it to us.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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you did the reconstruction there's exactly how his body was positioned when he was struck by that so it looks like his arm is more kind of like this if i can try to get that you're indicating out by his side correct yes all right and the taillight would have struck his arm right yes not his torso yes okay so the full mass the full weight of that truck hit him basically at the elbow is that right
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
So his torso was spared from being hit, but the arm took the brunt, full force of the vehicle, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
So if it turns around counterclockwise, is it turning around in the air counterclockwise?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
So it gets hit from the upper biceps, shoulder area, and down to the forearm, right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
In other words, it's nice and smooth. plastic or anything broken at the time that it made contact with his arm, right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Got it. So he gets hit by the car, not his torso, just the arm. The taillight cracks. And as it passes by, his arm stays in
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
And at the same time, he does a pirouette and flies 30 feet to his final point of rest.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
The truth is, you know, having investigated. look anything like an automobile pedestrian accident, do they?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Isn't it true, Trooper Paul, you came to these opinions and conclusions because Trooper Proctor told you to come to these opinions and conclusions in furtherance of his investigation?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
That's why you have these opinions and conclusions that just don't make sense, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
You had testified on direct examination that Karen Reed's phone connected to the Wi-Fi at 1 Meadows Ave at approximately 12.36 in the morning? Yes, sir. So you can testify based on that, that by 1236 in the morning, Karen Reed was not at 34th Fairview, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
And that was the first of those voicemails that you testified to, correct? That was the I hate you voicemail?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Okay. And that voicemail and every other voicemail that the jury heard was left after Karen had left 34th Fairview, correct? Correct.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
And except for the one after six in the morning, the four minute one, when she went back, we heard that one. But all the other ones were apparently left when she was at one medals, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
How much light did your headlights illuminate of the Alberts' front lawn as you were coming down from Chapman Street?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
With regard to that area around the flagpole, did you see anything on the lawn?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
In the initial moments of the beginning of the investigation, you were aware that John O'Keefe had been invited to a party inside a home.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
You also knew at the time that he had been, for want of a better phrase, partying with the individuals who were inside the home, correct? Expected to meet at the house.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Look the other way. Four words that sum up the Commonwealth's entire case. Four words that sum up the hopes of those who have tried to deceive you. Conflicts of interest? Doesn't matter. Just look the other way. Magic hairs? Magic glass? Look the other way. Late night calls and Google searches, falsified affidavits, inverted videos, butt dials galore. Just look the other way.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
That's what they want. That's what they're counting on, but the uncontrovertible fact is you have been lied to in this courtroom, and your job is to make sure you don't ever, ever look the other way. Preparing for today, I was reminded of a quote. It's a quote about the truth, and I want to share it with you. It is of great importance to set a resolution never to tell an untruth.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
You're aware that a drinking glass was found in the yard, attendant to or close to, adjacent to where Mr. O'Keefe's body was found.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
There is no vice so mean, so pitiful, so contemptible. And those who permit themselves to tell a lie once find it much easier to do it a second time and a third. This falsehood of the tongue leads to that of the heart. And in time, it depraves all its good dispositions. What does that mean?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
It means that it's been observed that to tell an untruth, to exaggerate, to make a false claim, it's a cancer. One lie begets another, and it's a malignancy that grows over time. And that, folks, is how a cover-up is born. That's how a Massachusetts state trooper says in whispered tones to his friends when he thought no one was looking or listening,
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
how he would make it cut and dry, no matter the truth, how he would make sure to put, quote, serious charges on the girl. In other words, pin it on the girl. You may ask yourself, how does this happen? How could this happen? It's 2024. Surely people aren't going to come to this courtroom, this hall of justice, and lie to us, just give us false information. They wouldn't do that.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
They wouldn't try to cover up the truth. The Alberts, the McCaves, Higgins, Lank, Michael Proctor, Uri Buchanek, Brian Tully, You don't have to wonder if they would lie to support their narrative. You need only wonder how many times they did lie. Over and over and over, they and others were caught deceiving you. Big things, small things, it didn't really matter. They feared nothing.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
They'll look you in the eye and deny phone calls. They'll deny secret meetings. They'll claim that calls are butt dials and butt dials are answered. They'll show you a video and tell you left is right and right is left. They'll magically turn three pieces of plastic into five right before your eyes. And even when they're caught with their own lies, they won't blink. They don't sweat.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
You're aware that drinking glasses are commonly found inside homes, right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
They'll just look you in the eye and demand, pay no attention. You folks look the other way. Ladies and gentlemen, there was a coverup in this case, plain and simple. You'll surely say to yourself, I don't want to believe it. I don't want to believe that can happen in our community. But sadly, over the past eight weeks, you've seen it right before your eyes. So how does a cover-up happen?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
How could that happen? Well, let's count the ways, shall we? Handpick your investigator. Make sure it's someone we know, someone on our side. Keep them close. Offer them help. Offer them a gift. Have secret friends and family meetings. Get your story straight. Delete your call history. Make mysterious phone calls at 2.22 a.m. Delete Google searches. Monitor police activity. Get rid of evidence.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
As well as bars, right? But at that point, you didn't know. It's just a broken glass, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Get rid of your dog. Destroy your phones. Destroy your SIM card. For the investigator, decide on a narrative early on. Don't go to the crime scene. Don't take witnesses in for questioning. Question all the witnesses together. Ignore witnesses who don't fit your narrative. Allow friends and family to contact those same witnesses. Don't record interviews. Write vague and false police reports.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Omit witnesses' names. Omit witnesses' interviews altogether. Don't photograph the evidence. Don't conduct any forensics. Don't document the evidence. Don't document the logs. Don't create any logs whatsoever and don't maintain a chain of custody. Keep all the evidence in the hands of one person and then manipulate that evidence, including videos. Don't turn over videos. Invert videos.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Turn 4.16 p.m. into 5.30 p.m. in affidavits. Turn three pieces of taillight into five pieces of taillight. Delete 42 minutes of surveillance footage. Hide personal relationships. Make this case cut and dry and ensure the homeowner, quote, never sees any shit because he's a Boston cop. But most importantly, pick your patsy. Pin it on the girl. It's not that it could happen.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
It's that every single one of those things I just mentioned did happen. right in front of you. But this sort of injustice can't happen in a vacuum. So what about the prosecution? What about the Commonwealth? What does it look like when the government picks a narrative and then tries to form a prosecution around the narrative instead of the other way around? Looks a lot like this.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
If you don't have actual evidence, just throw every single thing you can against the wall to see what sticks. Drag her through the mud and make sure you attack her character. And that's what you saw in this case.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
What evidence do they actually have to prove that that SUV ever hit John? The answer is none. They don't have any. There's no evidence whatsoever that Karen Reid's vehicle ever struck John O'Keefe or that Karen Reid ever wanted to strike John O'Keefe. In fact, every single piece of material evidence in this case unequivocally proves the opposite. John went into that house.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Fair enough. 18 degrees, you would expect that if someone was outside, they'd have a coat on, correct? Correct.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
That SUV was not damaged by hitting John. And John's injuries did not come from being hit by a car.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Ladies and gentlemen, how did this happen? How did we end up here? We ended up here because of relationships, insider trading, playing the who-you-know game, and building a tall blue wall, which takes decades and generations. But the real question is, is it going to continue?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
With this festering malignancy that allows a lead detective and his supervisor to gloat and sneer while looking over naked pictures or looking for naked pictures of the woman that they've targeted, will that continue? And the answer should be not if you have anything to say about it.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Michael Proctor is the lead investigator in this case, and much as the Commonwealth might try, they cannot distance themselves from the stench of him on this case and this investigation. Those secret group chats illustrate the quality and character of his investigation. That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you frame someone.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
That's how you dehumanize someone so viciously that you can just pin it on the girl and cover for the homeowner because he's a Boston cop. That's how you rip a person's life apart and sleep like a baby while doing it. And then further that by saying, I hope she kills herself. Ladies and gentlemen, I just began the discussion this afternoon or this morning with a quote about the truth.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
And I did that because that's what this case is about. Top to bottom, tip to tail. It's about the truth, not hiding it or concealing it, but exposing the truth. The truth is immutable. It's not a feeling, it's not a whim. It's unflinching, it's unchanging, and it's everlasting. That's why the law is steady.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
That's why it's not captive to the whims of people drunk with power who think they're above the law, who think they're above scrutiny. That's why you stand as the guardian of justice and the protector of justice.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
The law demands the very integrity that Trooper Proctor and his investigation lacks, and it requires that you cannot convict Karen Reid unless the Commonwealth has met its incredibly high burden to prove every element beyond a reasonable doubt and to a moral certainty. You may not have asked to be here, but each of you have given something very special of yourselves.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
You've agreed to do that, which is the highest calling a citizen can answer in any way. And my question to you is, what will you do with this moment? Ignore the lies and the manipulations, the misogyny, the bias, the lack of evidence. Could you ever do that? Would you ever do that? Or will you say with your verdict, I see the truth and I will not ever look the other way.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
When you stare the truth down, you'll see that the Commonwealth has not proven its case beyond a reasonable doubt into a moral certainty, not even close. Ladies and gentlemen, Karen Reid is innocent. Do justice and find her not guilty. Thank you.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Under ordinary circumstances, and you may be the exception, but under ordinary circumstances, if someone was out in 18 degree weather, you might expect they would have some winter garb, right? And you certainly would expect that if someone took their coat, their glove, their hat, their winter gear off, you might leave it inside the house, right? Rather than outside the house.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Reasonable assumption might be the winter gear might be inside the house. It's not reasonable that he would have his jacket inside the house. You wouldn't just assume that?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
To even ask. But he'd have a jacket off inside the house. And I'm talking about at the time, the initial stages of the investigation.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
So I'm asking if you believe it was reasonable if a man is found 30 feet outside the front door of a home and he's got no winter gear on whatsoever, that perhaps he came from inside the home not having donned his winter gear.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Where might you look for the shoe if you didn't find it out by his body initially?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Well, the facts you had at the initial stages, I'm talking about just after 6.30, 7.30 in the morning when the investigation was beginning. During those times, you didn't have any information about where the other shoe was, except he just didn't have a shoe on at the hospital, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Folks, this is what it looks like when you bring false charges against an innocent person. The Commonwealth did their worst. They brought the weight of the state based on spurious charges, based on compromised investigation and investigators and compromised witnesses. This is what it looks like. Guess what? They failed. They failed miserably and they'll continue to fail.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
No matter how long it takes, no matter how long they keep trying, we will not stop fighting. We have no quit.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
I just have two things to say, folks. Number one, I am in awe of the strength and courage of this remarkable client that I've had the privilege of representing since day one. And number two, I want to send a message to all of her supporters out there. Your support was invaluable. We are touched and we ask for your continued support. I'm not from Texas like my colleagues here. I'm a Boston kid.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
So when you did find out that there was a shoe unaccounted for, one place to look might be outside, correct? Yes.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
You also are aware that a body that's being dragged by the shoulders could easily lose a shoe. Have you ever experienced a homicide in which a body is dragged and you're aware of a shoe being pulled off while the body's being dragged?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Certainly not outside the realm of possibility as a professional investigator.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
You're also aware that, at least initially, it appeared from accounts that John O'Keefe may have been involved in a physical altercation, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
As a matter of fact, that was reported by one of your subordinates, Uri Buchanek, to the medical examiner's office, right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
As a possibility. And you're aware that your other subordinate, Trooper Proctor, according to certain information he had gotten from first responders, also believed that a physical altercation was possible.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Okay. And you also knew that the house would be a normal location to have other individuals who might have been involved in that physical altercation.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Okay. In the early morning hours following altercation, your Massachusetts State Police initiation or engagement in this investigation, you became aware of Brian Higgins, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
That name was bantied about as a potential witness in the investigation, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
And you're aware that Brian Higgins indicated that he saw a tall, dark-haired man enter the home after he arrived, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
And the reason you're not aware of it, Lieutenant Tully, is because nobody bothered to interview Brian Higgins February 10th. When was Brian Higgins' first interview?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
So had you known that, had you had the information, for instance, that Brian Higgins admitted to having seen a tall, dark-haired man walk in the house, that might have changed the complexion of your investigation at that time.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Right, exactly. That would just be a normal part of the investigation. You just take evidence A and link it to evidence B to evidence C. That would be the normal way to do an investigation.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
But in point of fact, nobody did seek a warrant to go inside the house, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Nobody did seek to have a forensic team go inside the house, and nobody asked for consent.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
The eyewitness indicated that the Ford Edge was placed there sometime between 2.30 in the morning and 3.30 in the morning, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
As the supervising investigator, did you do anything to investigate the circumstances of that portage being placed in front of 34 Fairview sometime between 2.30 and 3.30 in the morning?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
So did you find out anybody in the Albert family on the Ford Edge?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
Did you task anybody else to look at automobile registration records?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
They did own a Ford Edge, didn't they? But nothing was done further that you're aware of to investigate the circumstances of that Ford Edge being seen placed in front of 34 Fairview, right where the body was found, between 230 and 330 and 1, right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
Impasse: S1-E8
So you just decided, and that investigation was, is, yeah, I didn't believe him, right?
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By the prosecution's account, and perhaps by some other accounts, Natalie Cochran is not a nice person. She defrauded friends, relatives, investors. She was involved in a Ponzi scheme. But ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the fact that she is perhaps a fraud and perhaps a cheat,
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and that you wouldn't perhaps want to invite her home for a Sunday dinner, that you wouldn't like her, does not translate into being a murderer. And I will submit to you that the state's motive in this case, as they presented to you, is absolute nonsense. The state of West Virginia is trying to tell you
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Natalie Cochran, who has lived with the man who was up to his eyeballs in the policy scheme, somehow detected that he was on her. He was already detecting that she was committing a major fraud, and he was going to run straight to the federal government. But what comes to mind immediately is that bottle of insulin.
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And I will submit to you that this is a smokescreen that the state is going to present to you. You will hear medical evidence that Mr. Cochran was not a healthy 38-year-old man. In fact, to the contrary, between the late 2017 At the time of his death in 2019, he was in the hospital four times. For what? For life-threatening conditions. He was a ticking bomb, the evidence will show, health-wise.
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What's more, you will hear the evidence that Mr. Cochran fancied himself to be a bodybuilder. He wanted to be the Arnold Schwarzenegger, Mr. Universe. And what did he do in that regard? Mr. Cochrane has imported, let's call it medication, from Mexico, online, from sources that were not approved by any FDA or any legitimate American government sources.
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And he was taking medication, steroids, that were not for human consumption. that there was some animal medication taken only by the animals. He was pumping himself with steroids and whatever other medication there was that he could get from less than legitimate sources. And you have to consider that in arriving at your verdict. The insulin that my client had had in her possession,
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On November the 2nd, He went to the hospital with the same or extremely similar conditions that you found him in in February of 2019.
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No, he did not.
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