David Patrick Caracos (Promo Speaker)

So I think that goes towards the defense's argument, really, that this is a domestic violence issue. It's not a federal issue.

So I think that goes towards the defense's argument, really, that this is a domestic violence issue. It's not a federal issue.

You know... I take them with a grain of salt. And the government, I don't think, had a choice but to call this expert. And I thought she testified somewhat credibly. The problem is where you have these actions from Cassie and her testimony is what it is. You can have this expert saying all day, hey, look, it's emotional abuse that she had.

You know... I take them with a grain of salt. And the government, I don't think, had a choice but to call this expert. And I thought she testified somewhat credibly. The problem is where you have these actions from Cassie and her testimony is what it is. You can have this expert saying all day, hey, look, it's emotional abuse that she had.

And it's almost like a Stockholm syndrome where you can't get away from your captor and you fall in love with your captor. And that's what they're kind of portraying Cassie as, but the evidence that came out through cross-examination from Cassie, I don't think it's going to help that expert's testimony. And look, the defense is definitely going to have their own expert.

And it's almost like a Stockholm syndrome where you can't get away from your captor and you fall in love with your captor. And that's what they're kind of portraying Cassie as, but the evidence that came out through cross-examination from Cassie, I don't think it's going to help that expert's testimony. And look, the defense is definitely going to have their own expert.

I would assume who will testify that there wasn't this dependence on Diddy. And then when you have competing experts, really a lot of times what's going to happen is they're going to cancel each other out. So the jury, in my opinion, Once they hear from the other one, which I assume they will eventually, they'll cancel each other out.

I would assume who will testify that there wasn't this dependence on Diddy. And then when you have competing experts, really a lot of times what's going to happen is they're going to cancel each other out. So the jury, in my opinion, Once they hear from the other one, which I assume they will eventually, they'll cancel each other out.

And then the jury is going to say, all right, well, we don't care about the experts anymore. We're going back to square one. And that's Cassie.

And then the jury is going to say, all right, well, we don't care about the experts anymore. We're going back to square one. And that's Cassie.

It's the government who has to prove all of this, not Diddy, not his defense team. And the government has to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. So, again, when you're having all these thoughts and saying, well, all right, it may have happened, but we're not 100%, that's perfect reasonable doubt right there. And the defense is just eating that up.

It's the government who has to prove all of this, not Diddy, not his defense team. And the government has to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. So, again, when you're having all these thoughts and saying, well, all right, it may have happened, but we're not 100%, that's perfect reasonable doubt right there. And the defense is just eating that up.

It probably is good for him because it humanizes him a little bit. It's very difficult for this particular jury, I'm sure, to assimilate to Diddy, to, you know, say, oh, yeah, we're just like him. Of course you're not like Diddy. Diddy is trying to, you know, kind of make it so that they can look at each other, you know, kind of eye to eye that we have some similarities. You know, look at him.

It probably is good for him because it humanizes him a little bit. It's very difficult for this particular jury, I'm sure, to assimilate to Diddy, to, you know, say, oh, yeah, we're just like him. Of course you're not like Diddy. Diddy is trying to, you know, kind of make it so that they can look at each other, you know, kind of eye to eye that we have some similarities. You know, look at him.

He has gray hair now, which I think that probably is something that was a calculated move on Diddy's part or his defense team's part because it may show that He's not this violent guy who ordered all these attacks and and freak offs and all. You know, he's just a he's just like us.

He has gray hair now, which I think that probably is something that was a calculated move on Diddy's part or his defense team's part because it may show that He's not this violent guy who ordered all these attacks and and freak offs and all. You know, he's just a he's just like us.

You know, he has gray hair by him blowing kisses to his family and, you know, saying, how are you doing and whatnot and being somewhat jovial, if you will. I think that's probably good for him. I don't think it's going to hurt him at all with the jury. Is it going to help in the end? I mean, again, maybe a little.

You know, he has gray hair by him blowing kisses to his family and, you know, saying, how are you doing and whatnot and being somewhat jovial, if you will. I think that's probably good for him. I don't think it's going to hurt him at all with the jury. Is it going to help in the end? I mean, again, maybe a little.

If you are able to have some sympathetic jurors, then I think it'll definitely help him, but it's certainly not going to hurt And as for like when the defense team asked Diddy, hey, should we ask any more questions? I don't necessarily think that had anything to do with Diddy's like input or anything like that.

If you are able to have some sympathetic jurors, then I think it'll definitely help him, but it's certainly not going to hurt And as for like when the defense team asked Diddy, hey, should we ask any more questions? I don't necessarily think that had anything to do with Diddy's like input or anything like that.

They're kind of just making sure, hey, do you think we missed anything that you had told us? And when he said no, obviously that that was good enough for them.

They're kind of just making sure, hey, do you think we missed anything that you had told us? And when he said no, obviously that that was good enough for them.

Yeah, I'll be honest. I was pretty surprised that he would have his whole family there. I think it's a really good move to have them there. And it sucks what they're hearing. And I'm sure it's not fun for them to hear it at all. But they're powering through it. So, you know, good for them.

Yeah, I'll be honest. I was pretty surprised that he would have his whole family there. I think it's a really good move to have them there. And it sucks what they're hearing. And I'm sure it's not fun for them to hear it at all. But they're powering through it. So, you know, good for them.

I mean, look, if it's right now, not guilty all day long. Look, like you said before, there's still a lot of time to go. The government, they're saying, oh, they're trying to build this brick by brick Well, all I can tell you is they better have a brick truck outside because it doesn't seem like they have a lot of bricks that are being placed right now that are doing anything.

I mean, look, if it's right now, not guilty all day long. Look, like you said before, there's still a lot of time to go. The government, they're saying, oh, they're trying to build this brick by brick Well, all I can tell you is they better have a brick truck outside because it doesn't seem like they have a lot of bricks that are being placed right now that are doing anything.

So I'm very curious to see what else they have. And then I'm really curious to see what Diddy is going to do and his defense team.

So I'm very curious to see what else they have. And then I'm really curious to see what Diddy is going to do and his defense team.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah, Hermione, that's a really good question. And I think the defense is doing a fantastic job what they're doing right now with their play. Because putting it out in the open immediately in their opening statements that there's a lot of domestic violence that occurred in this relationship. And, you know, that Diddy, he has a drug habit. And that, look, he's not a perfect person.

Yeah, Hermione, that's a really good question. And I think the defense is doing a fantastic job what they're doing right now with their play. Because putting it out in the open immediately in their opening statements that there's a lot of domestic violence that occurred in this relationship. And, you know, that Diddy, he has a drug habit. And that, look, he's not a perfect person.

You're going to hear a lot of different things that are probably going to make you cringe. And I think that was really smart to do it. Get ahead of the curve. Now, to the charges themselves, I'm really surprised right now what the government is doing. Because, frankly, all they're trying to say is that Diddy's a bad guy. Yeah, okay, great.

You're going to hear a lot of different things that are probably going to make you cringe. And I think that was really smart to do it. Get ahead of the curve. Now, to the charges themselves, I'm really surprised right now what the government is doing. Because, frankly, all they're trying to say is that Diddy's a bad guy. Yeah, okay, great.

We all realized this pretty quickly after Cassie was testifying about how she got kicked and punched repeatedly. But these are not the charges that he's facing. He's facing racketeering charges and conspiracy to commit racketeering. He's facing sex trafficking along state lines. He's facing prostitution charges. Well, none of these charges so far, federally,

We all realized this pretty quickly after Cassie was testifying about how she got kicked and punched repeatedly. But these are not the charges that he's facing. He's facing racketeering charges and conspiracy to commit racketeering. He's facing sex trafficking along state lines. He's facing prostitution charges. Well, none of these charges so far, federally,

have been proven and especially not beyond a reasonable doubt. So I think the defense, what they're doing is a fantastic job. And I'll be very curious to see what their case in chief is going to be like when it's their turn to present their evidence. Right now, every witness that the government has put on the stand

have been proven and especially not beyond a reasonable doubt. So I think the defense, what they're doing is a fantastic job. And I'll be very curious to see what their case in chief is going to be like when it's their turn to present their evidence. Right now, every witness that the government has put on the stand

The defense has done a fantastic job at showing that they may not be the most credible individuals in the world. Cassie is a great example. When the evidence came out in cross-examination that she claimed that she was raped by Diddy after their relationship ended.

The defense has done a fantastic job at showing that they may not be the most credible individuals in the world. Cassie is a great example. When the evidence came out in cross-examination that she claimed that she was raped by Diddy after their relationship ended.

But then it was claimed that she had sex with him again after the alleged rape and that her husband now tried to FaceTime her while she was having sex. These show there's a lot of credibility issues. The other thing I just wanted to point out is that when Cassie was taking the stand and some of the other females who were taking the stand, Diddy's female attorneys were questioning them.

But then it was claimed that she had sex with him again after the alleged rape and that her husband now tried to FaceTime her while she was having sex. These show there's a lot of credibility issues. The other thing I just wanted to point out is that when Cassie was taking the stand and some of the other females who were taking the stand, Diddy's female attorneys were questioning them.

And I think that really is important. And that plays a big role with juries because it's not... A guy is berating a woman. So I really think that was another good thing that they did.

And I think that really is important. And that plays a big role with juries because it's not... A guy is berating a woman. So I really think that was another good thing that they did.

Well, for the sex trafficking charge, they're going to have to prove that Cassie was not willing and she was forced and coerced and threatened, actually, you know, violated physically to have sex with individuals. not just in New York or wherever, but across state lines. So what they did in Miami or L.A. or anything like that.

Well, for the sex trafficking charge, they're going to have to prove that Cassie was not willing and she was forced and coerced and threatened, actually, you know, violated physically to have sex with individuals. not just in New York or wherever, but across state lines. So what they did in Miami or L.A. or anything like that.

And right now, I don't think they're going to be able to prove that because there's been text messages and also testimony from other individuals, especially that punisher, where he said that she was enjoying it and that she was actually telling him what to do. It's going to play very difficult to a jury where how are you going to prove that she was forced to do all of this

And right now, I don't think they're going to be able to prove that because there's been text messages and also testimony from other individuals, especially that punisher, where he said that she was enjoying it and that she was actually telling him what to do. It's going to play very difficult to a jury where how are you going to prove that she was forced to do all of this

when she was saying in text messages that she wants to do these freak-offs, that she's setting up these freak-offs, that she's paying money for these freak-offs, and then telling these prostitutes what to do. That's going to be a big uphill climb for the government to really prove in this matter.

when she was saying in text messages that she wants to do these freak-offs, that she's setting up these freak-offs, that she's paying money for these freak-offs, and then telling these prostitutes what to do. That's going to be a big uphill climb for the government to really prove in this matter.

And I know she's going to say, or that she said that she was under the influence a lot, but that's only going to take you so many places.

And I know she's going to say, or that she said that she was under the influence a lot, but that's only going to take you so many places.

So that's a little easier because he's charged with not the racketeering per se, but conspiracy. So conspiracy is Diddy, along with any associate, one or more people, have conspired to do illegal acts in furtherance of their corporation, i.e. Bad Boy Records.

So that's a little easier because he's charged with not the racketeering per se, but conspiracy. So conspiracy is Diddy, along with any associate, one or more people, have conspired to do illegal acts in furtherance of their corporation, i.e. Bad Boy Records.

So they're pretty much saying that, look, Bad Boy Records was a front, if you will, for criminal enterprise and that they did illegal activity. So Their main thing is that Diddy and maybe a co-conspirator threatened individuals and with Kid Cudi in particular, where they said that they firebombed his vehicle. Again, the evidence that has been presented so far is not there.

So they're pretty much saying that, look, Bad Boy Records was a front, if you will, for criminal enterprise and that they did illegal activity. So Their main thing is that Diddy and maybe a co-conspirator threatened individuals and with Kid Cudi in particular, where they said that they firebombed his vehicle. Again, the evidence that has been presented so far is not there.

And so I don't know where they're going to get more witnesses or more evidence to prove that there was actual racketeering going on. Because if this is all they have right now, it's not looking good for the government.

And so I don't know where they're going to get more witnesses or more evidence to prove that there was actual racketeering going on. Because if this is all they have right now, it's not looking good for the government.

I guess you'd have to put Cassie, make her the number one so far due to the fact that she testified for three days

I guess you'd have to put Cassie, make her the number one so far due to the fact that she testified for three days

Yeah, that I'm sure does pull at the hearts a little bit of the jury and the defense. They tried to cover it up as much as possible, and they even asked the court to cover up Cassie's stomach, although that was obviously overruled. So I think her testimony proves probably would be the most compelling so far and hurts Diddy the most.

Yeah, that I'm sure does pull at the hearts a little bit of the jury and the defense. They tried to cover it up as much as possible, and they even asked the court to cover up Cassie's stomach, although that was obviously overruled. So I think her testimony proves probably would be the most compelling so far and hurts Diddy the most.

But that's not saying a lot because, again, she testified about all this domestic violence that happened with Diddy. And nobody's denying that. I don't even think Diddy's denying it.

But that's not saying a lot because, again, she testified about all this domestic violence that happened with Diddy. And nobody's denying that. I don't even think Diddy's denying it.

But she wasn't really able to get any meat on the bones for the racketeering charges because she couldn't prove that she couldn't place Diddy at any firebombing of Kitty Cuddy's car or any other acts of violence or coercion. In my opinion, she also didn't make a good case that she was forced to participate in these freak-offs, as the government is alleging that Diddy did.

But she wasn't really able to get any meat on the bones for the racketeering charges because she couldn't prove that she couldn't place Diddy at any firebombing of Kitty Cuddy's car or any other acts of violence or coercion. In my opinion, she also didn't make a good case that she was forced to participate in these freak-offs, as the government is alleging that Diddy did.

Because again, text messages and phone calls were presented In her cross-examination where she said, yeah, look, I can't wait to do these freak-offs. And then, again, with the Punisher's testimony as well, it makes it very difficult to prove for Cassie that she actually was not a willing participant in this whole process.

Because again, text messages and phone calls were presented In her cross-examination where she said, yeah, look, I can't wait to do these freak-offs. And then, again, with the Punisher's testimony as well, it makes it very difficult to prove for Cassie that she actually was not a willing participant in this whole process.

Maybe, maybe not. Again, domestic violence. That is a case of domestic violence. Now, the defense is going to say, this had nothing to do with the freak-off. This was just a situation between just Cassie and Diddy regarding an argument. Diddy was high on drugs or whatever else. So I think that's where they're going to go.

Maybe, maybe not. Again, domestic violence. That is a case of domestic violence. Now, the defense is going to say, this had nothing to do with the freak-off. This was just a situation between just Cassie and Diddy regarding an argument. Diddy was high on drugs or whatever else. So I think that's where they're going to go.

And I think that's a credible argument that they can make because there's been testimony, again, from multiple individuals that he was high a lot of the times, that he punched and kicked Cassidy and was very mean to her and very cruel to her. And so that video that was presented from the hotel, that would show that as well.

And I think that's a credible argument that they can make because there's been testimony, again, from multiple individuals that he was high a lot of the times, that he punched and kicked Cassidy and was very mean to her and very cruel to her. And so that video that was presented from the hotel, that would show that as well.

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So number one, I wouldn't be surprised if there is some type of plea negotiations going on. That would be the first thing. I would also anticipate that for the government, they're getting all their witnesses on board. They're getting everybody lined up. They're doing all their due diligence.

So number one, I wouldn't be surprised if there is some type of plea negotiations going on. That would be the first thing. I would also anticipate that for the government, they're getting all their witnesses on board. They're getting everybody lined up. They're doing all their due diligence.

They're going over discovery, making sure that everything has been provided to Diddy and his counsel that should be required. They're anticipating any motions or any, I'd say, surprises that they think the defense may have. They may do a mock trial if they have the resources, which I anticipate they do. So they're getting their ducks in a row.

They're going over discovery, making sure that everything has been provided to Diddy and his counsel that should be required. They're anticipating any motions or any, I'd say, surprises that they think the defense may have. They may do a mock trial if they have the resources, which I anticipate they do. So they're getting their ducks in a row.

For Diddy and his attorneys, they're doing the same thing for the most part. So the attorneys are meeting with Diddy, I'm sure, quite a bit. They're getting their game plan together. You know, 40 days out, it might seem like a long time, but it really isn't, especially when you're having to anticipate doing different motions and answering different motions.

For Diddy and his attorneys, they're doing the same thing for the most part. So the attorneys are meeting with Diddy, I'm sure, quite a bit. They're getting their game plan together. You know, 40 days out, it might seem like a long time, but it really isn't, especially when you're having to anticipate doing different motions and answering different motions.

You're going to have witnesses that at the very last second become unavailable or at the alternative become available. So you really have to make sure you have everything covered as best you can. And in a jury trial, there's always going to be surprises. You just got to try to anticipate as best you can.

You're going to have witnesses that at the very last second become unavailable or at the alternative become available. So you really have to make sure you have everything covered as best you can. And in a jury trial, there's always going to be surprises. You just got to try to anticipate as best you can.

So Marjorie, it's a good question. I have no idea what Diddy's thinking right now, if he's thinking a plea deal or not. But if I'm his attorneys, I'm definitely trying to at least get the best plea deal possible to present to Diddy. Because look, At the end of the day, it's going to be Diddy's decision. The attorneys, they're going to go home at the end of the night. Diddy, 50-50.

So Marjorie, it's a good question. I have no idea what Diddy's thinking right now, if he's thinking a plea deal or not. But if I'm his attorneys, I'm definitely trying to at least get the best plea deal possible to present to Diddy. Because look, At the end of the day, it's going to be Diddy's decision. The attorneys, they're going to go home at the end of the night. Diddy, 50-50.

Is he going to go home or is he going to stay in prison? I think they have to do it. I don't know if he's ordered them to negotiate that or not, but I think it would be bad luring if they didn't at least try to negotiate to get something. Now, what would it look like? I can't answer that for the simple reason that it seems like the government on its face, they're really going after Diddy.

Is he going to go home or is he going to stay in prison? I think they have to do it. I don't know if he's ordered them to negotiate that or not, but I think it would be bad luring if they didn't at least try to negotiate to get something. Now, what would it look like? I can't answer that for the simple reason that it seems like the government on its face, they're really going after Diddy.

And, you know, he is, you know, persona non grata, if you will. But behind closed doors, are they softening their stance a little bit? I could potentially see that because you're going to have a ton of witnesses as for the jury. And number one, if you put these witnesses up, they're going to be subject to cross-examination and they could definitely get screwed up in that cross-examination.

And, you know, he is, you know, persona non grata, if you will. But behind closed doors, are they softening their stance a little bit? I could potentially see that because you're going to have a ton of witnesses as for the jury. And number one, if you put these witnesses up, they're going to be subject to cross-examination and they could definitely get screwed up in that cross-examination.

Because as a defense attorney, that is your job to go after their credibility. But it may be beneficial to the government to offer some type of a decent plea deal where they could avoid having their witnesses go forward with it because, look, You just don't know how it's going to go in a trial. What would something realistic look like? Another good question.

Because as a defense attorney, that is your job to go after their credibility. But it may be beneficial to the government to offer some type of a decent plea deal where they could avoid having their witnesses go forward with it because, look, You just don't know how it's going to go in a trial. What would something realistic look like? Another good question.

I mean, it could be 10 to 15 years, maybe. I don't know. Diddy, though, he is eligible for certain programs, number one, that the federal system does provide. There is an early pathway exemption that he can take. He does not have any criminal record, so his score for sentencing purposes would go lower as well, especially being a first-time offender.

I mean, it could be 10 to 15 years, maybe. I don't know. Diddy, though, he is eligible for certain programs, number one, that the federal system does provide. There is an early pathway exemption that he can take. He does not have any criminal record, so his score for sentencing purposes would go lower as well, especially being a first-time offender.

So, you know, and also when it comes to these types of pleas, the judge in the case does not have to sentence the person to whatever they want to, to what the government or defense agree to. They could deviate from that. So defense could actually ask for something lower than the agreement. So that's something that potentially could happen.

So, you know, and also when it comes to these types of pleas, the judge in the case does not have to sentence the person to whatever they want to, to what the government or defense agree to. They could deviate from that. So defense could actually ask for something lower than the agreement. So that's something that potentially could happen.

But, you know, I still think it's probably a little too early to tell on that one.

But, you know, I still think it's probably a little too early to tell on that one.

I'd be like, you need to get your head examined. I really... don't like having clients testify unless, and this is just a cautionary tale, unless you are losing bad and you're throwing up a Hail Mary. That's the only way I would have somebody testify or recommend they testify. But if not, I would try to do everything in my power to talk them out of it.

I'd be like, you need to get your head examined. I really... don't like having clients testify unless, and this is just a cautionary tale, unless you are losing bad and you're throwing up a Hail Mary. That's the only way I would have somebody testify or recommend they testify. But if not, I would try to do everything in my power to talk them out of it.

Because having the defendant testify, most of the time it doesn't go well. All right. That is when the prosecution eat the defendant up alive. And, you know, defendants, they think they know it all. I don't want to say it's an ego thing, but they probably think, you know, nobody can tell my story like I can. That may be true.

Because having the defendant testify, most of the time it doesn't go well. All right. That is when the prosecution eat the defendant up alive. And, you know, defendants, they think they know it all. I don't want to say it's an ego thing, but they probably think, you know, nobody can tell my story like I can. That may be true.

But there's also nobody who can destroy your story as well like the government can. So I would try to talk Diddy out of testifying if possible. But at the end of the day, it's his decision. Something else I would do, and if he is going to testify, I can almost certainly guarantee they'll do this.

But there's also nobody who can destroy your story as well like the government can. So I would try to talk Diddy out of testifying if possible. But at the end of the day, it's his decision. Something else I would do, and if he is going to testify, I can almost certainly guarantee they'll do this.

They will have some type of a legal paper stating that they said that it would be their preference and their opinion, legal opinion, If Diddy did not testify and I would force Diddy to sign that because God forbid, you know, there's some type of appeal for ineffective assistance of counsel. And that's one of the reasons that Diddy testified. I would bring it.

They will have some type of a legal paper stating that they said that it would be their preference and their opinion, legal opinion, If Diddy did not testify and I would force Diddy to sign that because God forbid, you know, there's some type of appeal for ineffective assistance of counsel. And that's one of the reasons that Diddy testified. I would bring it.

I would have that, you know, right at my disposal.

I would have that, you know, right at my disposal.

It is. But look, who knows how the trial goes, all right, if it gets to a trial. You never know. It could go one way, or you think it's going to go one way, and it can go completely the opposite way. So these are game-time decisions. But unless you are losing badly and you know it, it really isn't worth the risk to have Diddy testify. I'm not going to be in that room, so I don't know.

It is. But look, who knows how the trial goes, all right, if it gets to a trial. You never know. It could go one way, or you think it's going to go one way, and it can go completely the opposite way. So these are game-time decisions. But unless you are losing badly and you know it, it really isn't worth the risk to have Diddy testify. I'm not going to be in that room, so I don't know.

So number one, they're probably going to want minorities. I would anticipate that because I assume one of their themes is going to be that they're going after an African-American wealthy male. So I think they're going to try to get as many black people on the jury as they can.

So number one, they're probably going to want minorities. I would anticipate that because I assume one of their themes is going to be that they're going after an African-American wealthy male. So I think they're going to try to get as many black people on the jury as they can.

I also think they're going to try to get women on the jury because women are more sympathetic when it comes to these types of cases than men. I know it doesn't sound like that.

I also think they're going to try to get women on the jury because women are more sympathetic when it comes to these types of cases than men. I know it doesn't sound like that.

You would think that, but studies have shown that women being on the jury are more sympathetic. And also, women judge women. harsher than a man judges a woman. Look, again, this is all science, not me.

You would think that, but studies have shown that women being on the jury are more sympathetic. And also, women judge women. harsher than a man judges a woman. Look, again, this is all science, not me.

So there's ways that you want to pick a jury. And those are two of the characteristics that Diddy's team is going to be looking for.

So there's ways that you want to pick a jury. And those are two of the characteristics that Diddy's team is going to be looking for.

Yeah, 100%. They're going to ask, do you know who he is? Do you know what songs he's been in? Do you know what type of music he sings? And that kind of stuff. So 1,000%. And that's probably going to limit a lot of the jury as well when they do that. Because if I'm the prosecutor, I'm not going to want them being on the jury, especially if they like Diddy's music.

Yeah, 100%. They're going to ask, do you know who he is? Do you know what songs he's been in? Do you know what type of music he sings? And that kind of stuff. So 1,000%. And that's probably going to limit a lot of the jury as well when they do that. Because if I'm the prosecutor, I'm not going to want them being on the jury, especially if they like Diddy's music.

It's pretty difficult to practice and file lawsuits in a court that you're not allowed to do, isn't it? That's a big no-no. If you get caught doing something like that,

It's pretty difficult to practice and file lawsuits in a court that you're not allowed to do, isn't it? That's a big no-no. If you get caught doing something like that,

Not only can your bar license, your legal license, be suspended or taken away in different states that you practice in, but you also could be technically looking at charges being placed against you as well for fraudulently practicing law, even though you are a licensed attorney.

Not only can your bar license, your legal license, be suspended or taken away in different states that you practice in, but you also could be technically looking at charges being placed against you as well for fraudulently practicing law, even though you are a licensed attorney.

I, I, I'm very, very, uh, skeptical about this and it doesn't make his clients look good at all by him doing that because the court, you know, made the, made, uh, Busby aware multiple times. Again, I don't know what's going on in his head in there. I met the guy, but you can't do that. That's, that's lawyer 101.

I, I, I'm very, very, uh, skeptical about this and it doesn't make his clients look good at all by him doing that because the court, you know, made the, made, uh, Busby aware multiple times. Again, I don't know what's going on in his head in there. I met the guy, but you can't do that. That's, that's lawyer 101.

If you're licensed in a federal court anywhere in the country, and it's like this for all the courts, you have to find a member who is in good standing in wherever you want to practice. They have to sponsor you. You fill out an application, and you're accepted. As long as you don't have any ethics complaints or anything like that in other states.

If you're licensed in a federal court anywhere in the country, and it's like this for all the courts, you have to find a member who is in good standing in wherever you want to practice. They have to sponsor you. You fill out an application, and you're accepted. As long as you don't have any ethics complaints or anything like that in other states.

So you don't have to take the other bar unless you want to, but who the hell wants to take another bar exam?

So you don't have to take the other bar unless you want to, but who the hell wants to take another bar exam?

Yeah. So like we I've I've, for instance, another attorneys who work for me in my firm, we've had to go to different districts in Pennsylvania, New Jersey and New York for that matter. And we find people who we know that are in good standing with the bar. They'll sponsor us. Boom, boom, boom. It takes like a couple days, you know, not even.

Yeah. So like we I've I've, for instance, another attorneys who work for me in my firm, we've had to go to different districts in Pennsylvania, New Jersey and New York for that matter. And we find people who we know that are in good standing with the bar. They'll sponsor us. Boom, boom, boom. It takes like a couple days, you know, not even.

He is licensed in New York, where I said that in the beginning. But the state courts and district courts and the federal courts are two different animals. Just because you're licensed in the state court does not mean you're licensed in the federal court. And when you have 15 cases that you file lawsuits in in the federal court, you better know that you are licensed there.

He is licensed in New York, where I said that in the beginning. But the state courts and district courts and the federal courts are two different animals. Just because you're licensed in the state court does not mean you're licensed in the federal court. And when you have 15 cases that you file lawsuits in in the federal court, you better know that you are licensed there.

And if you're not licensed there, get somebody else to file it.

And if you're not licensed there, get somebody else to file it.

You know, I'm going to make a broken record. I really am. But I don't think it's going to start. You know what? Today is March 26, 2025. Don't see it happening. I think it would have to be in 26 if it did happen. Wow. You know, I just don't see it. I think something's going to happen. I really do.

You know, I'm going to make a broken record. I really am. But I don't think it's going to start. You know what? Today is March 26, 2025. Don't see it happening. I think it would have to be in 26 if it did happen. Wow. You know, I just don't see it. I think something's going to happen. I really do.

Yeah, it could happen day of.

Yeah, it could happen day of.

That's what I'm saying. I think there could be a plea agreement that occurs prior to it. Or they're going to just say, we still aren't ready. There could be another indictment happening. We need more time.

That's what I'm saying. I think there could be a plea agreement that occurs prior to it. Or they're going to just say, we still aren't ready. There could be another indictment happening. We need more time.

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Thank you for having me, guys. You know, that's a great entrance right there.

Thank you for having me, guys. You know, that's a great entrance right there.

So it's not a flat out dismissal. The judge dismissed five of the eight counts there. I mean, the judge, he pretty much slam dunked the attorney. He's pretty much saying, you realize that defendants are innocent until proven guilty. And he kind of slapped him down. You don't really want that as an attorney, especially in papers where anybody in the country or the world can read this.

So it's not a flat out dismissal. The judge dismissed five of the eight counts there. I mean, the judge, he pretty much slam dunked the attorney. He's pretty much saying, you realize that defendants are innocent until proven guilty. And he kind of slapped him down. You don't really want that as an attorney, especially in papers where anybody in the country or the world can read this.

So he really embarrassed the attorney for Little Rob, but he deserved to be embarrassed because if you can't figure that part out of the law, you probably shouldn't be practicing law. That really was stunning to me, in my opinion. But the facts of the case, reading it, It was very weak to begin with, and you could kind of tell that was a money grab.

So he really embarrassed the attorney for Little Rob, but he deserved to be embarrassed because if you can't figure that part out of the law, you probably shouldn't be practicing law. That really was stunning to me, in my opinion. But the facts of the case, reading it, It was very weak to begin with, and you could kind of tell that was a money grab.

This was about him not getting royalties from Diddy from a video that they did in 22, I want to say it was. It just didn't add up, you know? And if a judge throws it away, prior to it even getting to a trial. I don't think that is the case. The judge thinks it's the case. So no jury probably would have convicted Diddy on this.

This was about him not getting royalties from Diddy from a video that they did in 22, I want to say it was. It just didn't add up, you know? And if a judge throws it away, prior to it even getting to a trial. I don't think that is the case. The judge thinks it's the case. So no jury probably would have convicted Diddy on this.

So everybody saw, especially the judge, that this was really a frivolous lawsuit.

So everybody saw, especially the judge, that this was really a frivolous lawsuit.

It was. But and also remember, Marjorie, this was not like the first lawsuit. This was towards the end of the lawsuit train, if you will, for Diddy. So, you know, this guy, he's just pretty much piling on whatever else he's heard and all these other allegations. But then the big thing is that he has a retribution where he wasn't paid for his royalties.

It was. But and also remember, Marjorie, this was not like the first lawsuit. This was towards the end of the lawsuit train, if you will, for Diddy. So, you know, this guy, he's just pretty much piling on whatever else he's heard and all these other allegations. But then the big thing is that he has a retribution where he wasn't paid for his royalties.

So I think this is kind of a payback for him to Diddy, although it didn't really turn out that way for him.

So I think this is kind of a payback for him to Diddy, although it didn't really turn out that way for him.

It could. It certainly could. Now, remember, some of these are put in different jurisdictions. So, you know, you can't ever say what one judge is going to do compared to another one. And every lawsuit's different. Every lawsuit has a different set of facts, even though they're going to have the same defendant and potentially the same allegations

It could. It certainly could. Now, remember, some of these are put in different jurisdictions. So, you know, you can't ever say what one judge is going to do compared to another one. And every lawsuit's different. Every lawsuit has a different set of facts, even though they're going to have the same defendant and potentially the same allegations

But certain facts are going to be stronger in some of the lawsuits and weaker in others. So I wouldn't say that I'm going to be surprised if there's going to be other ones that are dismissed. However, there's a ton of lawsuits right now against Diddy. Having them all dismissed, I don't think that's realistic and I don't think that's going to happen.

But certain facts are going to be stronger in some of the lawsuits and weaker in others. So I wouldn't say that I'm going to be surprised if there's going to be other ones that are dismissed. However, there's a ton of lawsuits right now against Diddy. Having them all dismissed, I don't think that's realistic and I don't think that's going to happen.

No.

No.

Well, number one, it's illegal. You're not allowed to record things from the jail.

Well, number one, it's illegal. You're not allowed to record things from the jail.

So yeah, no issue there that Kanye and Diddy just violated the law. I don't know if this was something that was pre-planned by Diddy and Kanye and the people. It could have been. I have no idea. But it doesn't sound good. And You know, especially the source, you know, Kanye isn't the pillar of the community right now.

So yeah, no issue there that Kanye and Diddy just violated the law. I don't know if this was something that was pre-planned by Diddy and Kanye and the people. It could have been. I have no idea. But it doesn't sound good. And You know, especially the source, you know, Kanye isn't the pillar of the community right now.

So I don't see that him being in Diddy's corner is going to help Diddy in any way. Maybe I'm wrong.

So I don't see that him being in Diddy's corner is going to help Diddy in any way. Maybe I'm wrong.

Definitely on Kanye. It depends on Diddy. Look, if he had no idea and it's proven that, then yeah, you can't blame Diddy because, hell, the guy's in prison. How's he going to do anything or record anything or know about it? But if he did know and he did authorize this, then yeah, he could have even more trouble. than what he's already in for.

Definitely on Kanye. It depends on Diddy. Look, if he had no idea and it's proven that, then yeah, you can't blame Diddy because, hell, the guy's in prison. How's he going to do anything or record anything or know about it? But if he did know and he did authorize this, then yeah, he could have even more trouble. than what he's already in for.

I mean, the only way you're allowed to record conversations from jail is if you get permission from the federal government, from the federal jail to do so. If you don't have that, you're not allowed to do it. It's very simple. It's cut and dry. So I don't know if there's an investigation going on right now about this, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is.

I mean, the only way you're allowed to record conversations from jail is if you get permission from the federal government, from the federal jail to do so. If you don't have that, you're not allowed to do it. It's very simple. It's cut and dry. So I don't know if there's an investigation going on right now about this, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is.

And if I'm the government here, I'm going to be raising my hands up left and right saying, why is this happening? This should never have happened to begin with. If defense is going to try to use it for evidence or purposes, which I don't think they will, but let's just say they tried to, you know, government is going to object to it because this was not done through the proper channels.

And if I'm the government here, I'm going to be raising my hands up left and right saying, why is this happening? This should never have happened to begin with. If defense is going to try to use it for evidence or purposes, which I don't think they will, but let's just say they tried to, you know, government is going to object to it because this was not done through the proper channels.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You know, that's one of the first things you find out when you go. They give you a whole manual, pretty much, of what you can and cannot do. And phone calls are one of the highlights of their day. They don't get many highlights in federal prison if people don't realize that by now. So a phone call or visitation, that's a highlight.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You know, that's one of the first things you find out when you go. They give you a whole manual, pretty much, of what you can and cannot do. And phone calls are one of the highlights of their day. They don't get many highlights in federal prison if people don't realize that by now. So a phone call or visitation, that's a highlight.

And if you violate the conditions, you're not going to get them anymore. The jail can refuse to allow you to have that. And then you're really screwed. So the inmates, they take that stuff pretty seriously and they follow the rules. So not following the rules on this particular one and doing something illegal, potentially, you know, that's not good for Diddy.

And if you violate the conditions, you're not going to get them anymore. The jail can refuse to allow you to have that. And then you're really screwed. So the inmates, they take that stuff pretty seriously and they follow the rules. So not following the rules on this particular one and doing something illegal, potentially, you know, that's not good for Diddy.

So when you step down from a case, there's usually one of two reasons. Mainly, the first one is money. Not getting paid. Very simple. We talked about this at length before, I know. But I don't know how much Didi has paid these firms.

So when you step down from a case, there's usually one of two reasons. Mainly, the first one is money. Not getting paid. Very simple. We talked about this at length before, I know. But I don't know how much Didi has paid these firms.

But if Diddy isn't paying anymore or he's refusing to pay, that's a basis to potentially try to get out of the case because you're still in the middle of everything right now and you're going to do a ton more work, especially if this goes to trial. So the amount of hours that are going to be spent on that, it's going to cost a ton of money to Diddy.

But if Diddy isn't paying anymore or he's refusing to pay, that's a basis to potentially try to get out of the case because you're still in the middle of everything right now and you're going to do a ton more work, especially if this goes to trial. So the amount of hours that are going to be spent on that, it's going to cost a ton of money to Diddy.

And if he hasn't paid or can't afford to pay him anymore, that wouldn't shock me at all that Rico is getting out of it.

And if he hasn't paid or can't afford to pay him anymore, that wouldn't shock me at all that Rico is getting out of it.

Yeah, it's not a wet dream anymore. It's going to be a nightmare, I guess.

Yeah, it's not a wet dream anymore. It's going to be a nightmare, I guess.

So that's not the reason, all right, which I would anticipate that's probably a pretty strong reason. But if it's not, the other one would be that just the client is being an asshole. All right, that's as simple as I can make it. We have clients every now and then who are just very difficult clients. to deal with. It's called client control.

So that's not the reason, all right, which I would anticipate that's probably a pretty strong reason. But if it's not, the other one would be that just the client is being an asshole. All right, that's as simple as I can make it. We have clients every now and then who are just very difficult clients. to deal with. It's called client control.

I always want to have client control, meaning, you know, look, the clients, you're in a very tough situation right now. My job is to get you out of this situation. It's to get you the best possible resolution.

I always want to have client control, meaning, you know, look, the clients, you're in a very tough situation right now. My job is to get you out of this situation. It's to get you the best possible resolution.

And by fighting with me, saying, oh, well, you know, I think you're doing this wrong, or, you know, why don't we go about this, or I didn't do this, you know, whatever's going through their minds. And it makes your job much more difficult. Well, I don't think it would be outlandish to think that Diddy might not be the easiest client to deal with.

And by fighting with me, saying, oh, well, you know, I think you're doing this wrong, or, you know, why don't we go about this, or I didn't do this, you know, whatever's going through their minds. And it makes your job much more difficult. Well, I don't think it would be outlandish to think that Diddy might not be the easiest client to deal with.

Again, very rich man, very powerful man, used to having his way. He's in a jail cell now where he's very tight, tightly confound, and he's probably not in a very good mood. I wouldn't be in a good mood either, and nobody would be in a good mood. I think it's probably fair to say that he's probably not being the easiest client to deal with.

Again, very rich man, very powerful man, used to having his way. He's in a jail cell now where he's very tight, tightly confound, and he's probably not in a very good mood. I wouldn't be in a good mood either, and nobody would be in a good mood. I think it's probably fair to say that he's probably not being the easiest client to deal with.

Now, if they look at the paycheck, they're going to be like, oh, okay, I remember why I'm representing him. But if that paycheck has dried up, then they're probably saying, you know, I don't know if this is worth it. And Diddy could also have said, you know what? I don't want you anymore. I don't think you're doing a good job representing me.

Now, if they look at the paycheck, they're going to be like, oh, okay, I remember why I'm representing him. But if that paycheck has dried up, then they're probably saying, you know, I don't know if this is worth it. And Diddy could also have said, you know what? I don't want you anymore. I don't think you're doing a good job representing me.

And the attorney can then file a motion to be relieved as counsel. For that reason, where there's a mutual decision by the client and the attorney. So there's a couple different reasons why he would get out of it. Those are the big two, though. Money, which is pretty much a reason for everything in life. And the second one is client control or difficulty with the client.

And the attorney can then file a motion to be relieved as counsel. For that reason, where there's a mutual decision by the client and the attorney. So there's a couple different reasons why he would get out of it. Those are the big two, though. Money, which is pretty much a reason for everything in life. And the second one is client control or difficulty with the client.

Well, you got to look at it. What's a win? Is a win just a dismissal of everything? Maybe. I mean, to Diddy, I guess it would be. A job as a criminal defense attorney is to make sure that we get you the best resolution, whatever that is, all right, to mitigate your exposure. So Diddy, perfect example, he's looking at life in prison, all right? So your exposure is life in prison.

Well, you got to look at it. What's a win? Is a win just a dismissal of everything? Maybe. I mean, to Diddy, I guess it would be. A job as a criminal defense attorney is to make sure that we get you the best resolution, whatever that is, all right, to mitigate your exposure. So Diddy, perfect example, he's looking at life in prison, all right? So your exposure is life in prison.

If I can get you something so much better without having to go to a trial and gambling, win or lose, if you lose, you're screwed. If you win, yeah, you go free. But what are the odds of that? So that's really what you have to ask yourself. And I always ask this to clients when they approach us and when they want to hire us. What do you want to see happen? Are you looking to get an acquittal?

If I can get you something so much better without having to go to a trial and gambling, win or lose, if you lose, you're screwed. If you win, yeah, you go free. But what are the odds of that? So that's really what you have to ask yourself. And I always ask this to clients when they approach us and when they want to hire us. What do you want to see happen? Are you looking to get an acquittal?

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Are you looking to say, all right, look, I didn't do this. I'm going to fight this tooth and nail. Or do you come in and say, listen, I may or may not have done this, but you got to get me the best possible resolution and do whatever you think. So I don't know if Diddy would listen to the advice of counsel. And I don't know if a win to him is going to necessarily be a win to the attorneys.

Are you looking to say, all right, look, I didn't do this. I'm going to fight this tooth and nail. Or do you come in and say, listen, I may or may not have done this, but you got to get me the best possible resolution and do whatever you think. So I don't know if Diddy would listen to the advice of counsel. And I don't know if a win to him is going to necessarily be a win to the attorneys.

And I also don't know if a win for Diddy is realistic either, what he's looking for to what actually can happen.

And I also don't know if a win for Diddy is realistic either, what he's looking for to what actually can happen.

When you say under no circumstances, it's not like, you know, I really don't see me being able to represent, you know, Sean Diddy Combs in an adequate faction anymore. But when you say unequivocally, under no circumstances, there's something there.

When you say under no circumstances, it's not like, you know, I really don't see me being able to represent, you know, Sean Diddy Combs in an adequate faction anymore. But when you say unequivocally, under no circumstances, there's something there.

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Kayla, I mean, you hit the nail on the head right there. Don't believe everything you read.

Kayla, I mean, you hit the nail on the head right there. Don't believe everything you read.

all right i'm sure there's probably some truths uh you know here and there but there's a lot of gray area and you know that's what's going to be coming out uh you know probably in the not too distant future and that's why we have this podcast so we can break it down and you can make your decisions or your opinions for yourself

all right i'm sure there's probably some truths uh you know here and there but there's a lot of gray area and you know that's what's going to be coming out uh you know probably in the not too distant future and that's why we have this podcast so we can break it down and you can make your decisions or your opinions for yourself

I don't think it's going to do much, honestly. They're grasping at straws here. They're doing anything they possibly can. And look, a lot of this, I have a feeling, is coming from Diddy himself. You know, look, when you have a client who is

I don't think it's going to do much, honestly. They're grasping at straws here. They're doing anything they possibly can. And look, a lot of this, I have a feeling, is coming from Diddy himself. You know, look, when you have a client who is

very well-known, very powerful, has a lot of money like Diddy, who's used to getting his way, you're going to make your will known, and it has to be through your attorneys. I've had to deal with it a lot where I've had clients who tell me specifically, hey, I want you to ask this judge this. I'm going to let them know.

very well-known, very powerful, has a lot of money like Diddy, who's used to getting his way, you're going to make your will known, and it has to be through your attorneys. I've had to deal with it a lot where I've had clients who tell me specifically, hey, I want you to ask this judge this. I'm going to let them know.

Look, the judge is going to tell you no right off the bat, but if you want me to do it, sure. What's the worst they're going to say? I have a feeling that's exactly what's happening here. Diddy is probably just telling his attorneys, I don't want to come out in shackles. I don't like how it looks. No kidding. Nobody's going to like how it looks being in shackles.

Look, the judge is going to tell you no right off the bat, but if you want me to do it, sure. What's the worst they're going to say? I have a feeling that's exactly what's happening here. Diddy is probably just telling his attorneys, I don't want to come out in shackles. I don't like how it looks. No kidding. Nobody's going to like how it looks being in shackles.

But the public is not going to see that because, like you said, there's no cameras. There's no pictures here. It's only a court stenographer. So I don't think it's a lot going on there, if you will.

But the public is not going to see that because, like you said, there's no cameras. There's no pictures here. It's only a court stenographer. So I don't think it's a lot going on there, if you will.

No, not in this lifetime. No. He looks at Diddy just like any other defendant that comes before him. Diddy has a lot more money than everybody else, but the judge doesn't really care and won't see it like that. I guarantee you he will not grant that request.

No, not in this lifetime. No. He looks at Diddy just like any other defendant that comes before him. Diddy has a lot more money than everybody else, but the judge doesn't really care and won't see it like that. I guarantee you he will not grant that request.

You're right. You have to be able to know who your accuser is. And by saying Jane or John Doe, that doesn't really do you any good. They're going to know eventually because literally they're going to have to be prepared and presented these facts. I think they make an excellent point. However...

You're right. You have to be able to know who your accuser is. And by saying Jane or John Doe, that doesn't really do you any good. They're going to know eventually because literally they're going to have to be prepared and presented these facts. I think they make an excellent point. However...

the judge is going to balance everything, you know, the balance, the privacy of these alleged victims against the needs of the defense. And it's a tough balancing act. I don't want to be the judge when it comes to this, but they're going to have to, the judge is going to order the names to be released. Now, I have a feeling what the judge will do would be

the judge is going to balance everything, you know, the balance, the privacy of these alleged victims against the needs of the defense. And it's a tough balancing act. I don't want to be the judge when it comes to this, but they're going to have to, the judge is going to order the names to be released. Now, I have a feeling what the judge will do would be

that they have to be released, but it can only be to the defense, and it's going to be a very secretive way, if you will. Diddy may not, well, Diddy's going to have to know about it. The problem is, obviously, with these allegations with Diddy right now, and I don't know, again, who knows if they're true or not, But how are they going to be protected, these witnesses?

that they have to be released, but it can only be to the defense, and it's going to be a very secretive way, if you will. Diddy may not, well, Diddy's going to have to know about it. The problem is, obviously, with these allegations with Diddy right now, and I don't know, again, who knows if they're true or not, But how are they going to be protected, these witnesses?

And that's going to be the key here. And it's going to be difficult to find out. I don't know. But the defense has to know. And they are entitled to know. And it's by court rule. They need to know. So they're going to know sooner rather than later. But the judge is going to probably put her on a very, very tight leash.

And that's going to be the key here. And it's going to be difficult to find out. I don't know. But the defense has to know. And they are entitled to know. And it's by court rule. They need to know. So they're going to know sooner rather than later. But the judge is going to probably put her on a very, very tight leash.

If they didn't know, then we may have a problem because you can't hide behind the name for so long. I understand the beginning. And, you know, look, maybe they thought that this is something that would just settle. But when you are dealing with the federal government, you're dealing with criminal charges. You have to be prepared. that your name is going to eventually get released.

If they didn't know, then we may have a problem because you can't hide behind the name for so long. I understand the beginning. And, you know, look, maybe they thought that this is something that would just settle. But when you are dealing with the federal government, you're dealing with criminal charges. You have to be prepared. that your name is going to eventually get released.

Correct. Correct. So yes, release the Diddy's team. But look, once it gets released, I don't care if it is a Diddy's team or not. And they could be under strict orders that it can't be really, you know, revealed to anybody else. You know, we know how the world works and individuals identities do get leaked. And I wouldn't be surprised even if it's not by on purpose, but it could happen.

Correct. Correct. So yes, release the Diddy's team. But look, once it gets released, I don't care if it is a Diddy's team or not. And they could be under strict orders that it can't be really, you know, revealed to anybody else. You know, we know how the world works and individuals identities do get leaked. And I wouldn't be surprised even if it's not by on purpose, but it could happen.

It's a two-way street. It really is. The prosecutors do it. The defense attorneys do it.

It's a two-way street. It really is. The prosecutors do it. The defense attorneys do it.

Everybody denies it. Of course you're going to deny it. If you don't deny it, we've got some issues here.

Everybody denies it. Of course you're going to deny it. If you don't deny it, we've got some issues here.

Look, it's part of the game. Everybody has to play the game. They're smart attorneys on both sides. I can see some leaks happening.

Look, it's part of the game. Everybody has to play the game. They're smart attorneys on both sides. I can see some leaks happening.

Well, it's interesting. They don't have to reveal anything unless the individuals are indicted, all right? Or they're going to be called as witnesses. They don't have to bring anything up. But once they know that they're going to be calling certain witnesses and whatnot, they have to provide the names.

Well, it's interesting. They don't have to reveal anything unless the individuals are indicted, all right? Or they're going to be called as witnesses. They don't have to bring anything up. But once they know that they're going to be calling certain witnesses and whatnot, they have to provide the names.

They have to provide all the information and what they're going to testify or proffer, if you will.

They have to provide all the information and what they're going to testify or proffer, if you will.

they're also going to have to name any other individuals who potentially had a deal so because right now the indictment only has diddy now did anybody else cooperate and maybe get a better deal and they just were never indicted possible and if that's the case we're gonna have to they're gonna have to advise the defense sooner rather than later

they're also going to have to name any other individuals who potentially had a deal so because right now the indictment only has diddy now did anybody else cooperate and maybe get a better deal and they just were never indicted possible and if that's the case we're gonna have to they're gonna have to advise the defense sooner rather than later

If it doesn't get pushed back, I'd be astounded. I'll bet money right now that it does not happen in May. I know Diddy and his legal team are saying, we want it as soon as possible. We want it as soon as possible. There is no way in blue hell that they can possibly be prepared for that date. I understand we're in November, so we still have like five months, six months.

If it doesn't get pushed back, I'd be astounded. I'll bet money right now that it does not happen in May. I know Diddy and his legal team are saying, we want it as soon as possible. We want it as soon as possible. There is no way in blue hell that they can possibly be prepared for that date. I understand we're in November, so we still have like five months, six months.

But there's so much information. that they have to go through, the defense has to go through, and they're still getting information every day. I cannot possibly see them being able to be trial-ready on May 5th. So I don't see it happening. And, you know, mark this right down. Today is November 20th at 1.35 p.m. Mark it down that David Gelman said is not going to happen.

But there's so much information. that they have to go through, the defense has to go through, and they're still getting information every day. I cannot possibly see them being able to be trial-ready on May 5th. So I don't see it happening. And, you know, mark this right down. Today is November 20th at 1.35 p.m. Mark it down that David Gelman said is not going to happen.

You're going to have a ton of motions that still need to be filed by both parties. All right. So there's going to be suppression motions. There's going to be different motions regarding probably venue witnesses, everything like that. So that all has to be hammered out.

You're going to have a ton of motions that still need to be filed by both parties. All right. So there's going to be suppression motions. There's going to be different motions regarding probably venue witnesses, everything like that. So that all has to be hammered out.

And after that is all flushed out, then they're going to have to go through what is going to be admissible, what is not going to be admissible. That is going to take forever. Right. Furthermore, you're going to have a ton of witnesses that you have to prep for. And we still don't know how many witnesses are actually going to be having to testify against Diddy.

And after that is all flushed out, then they're going to have to go through what is going to be admissible, what is not going to be admissible. That is going to take forever. Right. Furthermore, you're going to have a ton of witnesses that you have to prep for. And we still don't know how many witnesses are actually going to be having to testify against Diddy.

And they still have to provide the names. So once that happens, the defense has to get their ducks in a row. They have to get all the information, all their due diligence on these potential witnesses. And then finally, you have to prep Diddy. And that's the biggest thing. Now, will he testify at his own trial or not? That's obviously going to be a game time decision.

And they still have to provide the names. So once that happens, the defense has to get their ducks in a row. They have to get all the information, all their due diligence on these potential witnesses. And then finally, you have to prep Diddy. And that's the biggest thing. Now, will he testify at his own trial or not? That's obviously going to be a game time decision.

I never think it's a good idea to have your own client testify if you don't have to. But, you know, that's something that they're going to have to deal with. So there's so much there's so much unknown right now, so much information that still is unavailable. And both for prosecutors and the defense that I think it's it's not very realistic. I mean, federal trials, they they don't happen for years.

I never think it's a good idea to have your own client testify if you don't have to. But, you know, that's something that they're going to have to deal with. So there's so much there's so much unknown right now, so much information that still is unavailable. And both for prosecutors and the defense that I think it's it's not very realistic. I mean, federal trials, they they don't happen for years.

And, you know, Diddy was just charged in, what, September or something like that. So, you know, this is incredibly quick if that did happen in May.

And, you know, Diddy was just charged in, what, September or something like that. So, you know, this is incredibly quick if that did happen in May.

I think that what happened was that they did that just to put it on the calendar. But I think all parties know that it's unrealistic that it's going to happen.

I think that what happened was that they did that just to put it on the calendar. But I think all parties know that it's unrealistic that it's going to happen.

I think it's posturing. You're going to have to say it, that we want to get to a trial as soon as possible. We want our client to be proven innocent. I'm sure Diddy wants to have this happen immediately, too. If I was him, I certainly would. I don't want to be in this hellhole that's the federal detention center.

I think it's posturing. You're going to have to say it, that we want to get to a trial as soon as possible. We want our client to be proven innocent. I'm sure Diddy wants to have this happen immediately, too. If I was him, I certainly would. I don't want to be in this hellhole that's the federal detention center.

I'm sure they want it to happen, but practically speaking, they know it can't happen. And I'm sure they've told Diddy this before. So I think a lot of this is media-based, if you will.

I'm sure they want it to happen, but practically speaking, they know it can't happen. And I'm sure they've told Diddy this before. So I think a lot of this is media-based, if you will.

It's very interesting because... And look, I don't know Tony Busby personally, but I know that he represents a lot of victims or alleged victims. He represented a lot of the individuals in Deshaun Watson's civil cases. So... it's a very precarious situation that an individual is in because you're trying to advocate for your client.

It's very interesting because... And look, I don't know Tony Busby personally, but I know that he represents a lot of victims or alleged victims. He represented a lot of the individuals in Deshaun Watson's civil cases. So... it's a very precarious situation that an individual is in because you're trying to advocate for your client.

And then his situation, he's advocating for alleged victims who have been sexually assaulted allegedly. Again, I, you know, who knows what's going on or not, but they're all allegations. Um, And if I was him, he contacts the other party or their attorneys. I would do the same thing to see maybe you can get a settlement before you have to really get messy, if you will.

And then his situation, he's advocating for alleged victims who have been sexually assaulted allegedly. Again, I, you know, who knows what's going on or not, but they're all allegations. Um, And if I was him, he contacts the other party or their attorneys. I would do the same thing to see maybe you can get a settlement before you have to really get messy, if you will.

And a lot of people want to do that, especially celebrities, because the less their name is in the papers and in the Internet for salacious acts, obviously it's better for them. They want to try to avoid this as much as possible.

And a lot of people want to do that, especially celebrities, because the less their name is in the papers and in the Internet for salacious acts, obviously it's better for them. They want to try to avoid this as much as possible.

There isn't one. It's like an invisible line really. And you may cross it. You may not. And just because somebody thinks it's extortion, that doesn't necessarily mean it is extortion. If it's true, it's not extortion. Right. It's a very, very tricky situation that Busby is in. I can understand the other side and what they're saying.

There isn't one. It's like an invisible line really. And you may cross it. You may not. And just because somebody thinks it's extortion, that doesn't necessarily mean it is extortion. If it's true, it's not extortion. Right. It's a very, very tricky situation that Busby is in. I can understand the other side and what they're saying.

But at the same time, if these allegations are true, and Busby's just trying to protect his client and advocate for the client, I don't know how much that really is extortion, even though another side may disagree.

But at the same time, if these allegations are true, and Busby's just trying to protect his client and advocate for the client, I don't know how much that really is extortion, even though another side may disagree.

Thank you very much for having me, Kayla. It's been great talking with you.

Thank you very much for having me, Kayla. It's been great talking with you.

Good. I'm glad.

Good. I'm glad.

They're right, it is. And the judge agreed with them because there were handwritten notes from Diddy that were confiscated during the raid, and the judge specifically told the federal prosecutors, you better destroy them immediately. So that is attorney-client privilege. To have a raid on an individual that's currently incarcerated, it's very rare. It doesn't happen often.

They're right, it is. And the judge agreed with them because there were handwritten notes from Diddy that were confiscated during the raid, and the judge specifically told the federal prosecutors, you better destroy them immediately. So that is attorney-client privilege. To have a raid on an individual that's currently incarcerated, it's very rare. It doesn't happen often.

So for them to do this, they really must have thought that there was some extraordinary activity going on with Diddy and maybe, you know, outside influences, if you will. And that's why they did this. But even if that's 100 percent accurate, you still cannot take notes or or or documentation from the inmate where it's, you know,

So for them to do this, they really must have thought that there was some extraordinary activity going on with Diddy and maybe, you know, outside influences, if you will. And that's why they did this. But even if that's 100 percent accurate, you still cannot take notes or or or documentation from the inmate where it's, you know,

correspondence between him and his uh attorneys or in the alternative you know his his plain notes where he's just preparing for trial which is again that's confidential that's only for him so that was a big no-no well what are some things that would prompt a raid of a jail cell uh a couple things so reading the the uh the motion from the government

correspondence between him and his uh attorneys or in the alternative you know his his plain notes where he's just preparing for trial which is again that's confidential that's only for him so that was a big no-no well what are some things that would prompt a raid of a jail cell uh a couple things so reading the the uh the motion from the government

It is that Diddy is using not only outside influences like family and friends to get in contact with individuals who could testify against him and try to pay them off. But he's using individuals inside of the prison. to actually do the same thing. So he's using specific messaging apps from, not him, but from other inmates' cell phones or electronic devices.

It is that Diddy is using not only outside influences like family and friends to get in contact with individuals who could testify against him and try to pay them off. But he's using individuals inside of the prison. to actually do the same thing. So he's using specific messaging apps from, not him, but from other inmates' cell phones or electronic devices.

And he's also using other inmates' phone numbers because everybody has their own set of phone number in the federal prison. So, in detention center, I should say. So he's using those numbers and those apps to contact people who, again, are going to testify against them potentially. That's called witness tampering. You're not allowed to do that.

And he's also using other inmates' phone numbers because everybody has their own set of phone number in the federal prison. So, in detention center, I should say. So he's using those numbers and those apps to contact people who, again, are going to testify against them potentially. That's called witness tampering. You're not allowed to do that.

And I guess it really just got to a point where it's almost become public. I mean, individuals have stated, Ray J stated, I believe, that, you know, these individuals are being contacted. And when that happens, the government, they're going to come down on you and they're going to come down on you hard. And Diddy found that out firsthand.

And I guess it really just got to a point where it's almost become public. I mean, individuals have stated, Ray J stated, I believe, that, you know, these individuals are being contacted. And when that happens, the government, they're going to come down on you and they're going to come down on you hard. And Diddy found that out firsthand.

Yeah, so a filter team pretty much redacts information, private information that the prosecutors are not allowed to have. It's not allowed to be public or anything like that because you got to remember all these motions are public knowledge if you think about it. So, you know, there could be Social Security numbers on there or just private information in general.

Yeah, so a filter team pretty much redacts information, private information that the prosecutors are not allowed to have. It's not allowed to be public or anything like that because you got to remember all these motions are public knowledge if you think about it. So, you know, there could be Social Security numbers on there or just private information in general.

And so a filter team, it's actually pretty common when it comes to the federal government where they get a plethora of evidence. And I'm talking about like boxes and boxes and boxes. All right. And not in this particular instance. But you have to have a whole team really go through it and make sure what can and cannot be used or seen for that matter. Right. And so that's what they do.

And so a filter team, it's actually pretty common when it comes to the federal government where they get a plethora of evidence. And I'm talking about like boxes and boxes and boxes. All right. And not in this particular instance. But you have to have a whole team really go through it and make sure what can and cannot be used or seen for that matter. Right. And so that's what they do.

They're common. They're very common. But again, this particular raid on an inmate in a federal facility, that is not common.

They're common. They're very common. But again, this particular raid on an inmate in a federal facility, that is not common.

They could try, yes, they definitely could. However, I don't think they will be successful in doing so because, I don't understand, the underlying reason why they asked for the raid and got the raid approved by the DOJ is because of improper messaging and improper communications with potential witnesses. So that's the underlying thing.

They could try, yes, they definitely could. However, I don't think they will be successful in doing so because, I don't understand, the underlying reason why they asked for the raid and got the raid approved by the DOJ is because of improper messaging and improper communications with potential witnesses. So that's the underlying thing.

And that doesn't seem to be not or that hasn't been not proven yet, if you will. I think they're still having that. They still have to find out if that's accurate or not. And the judge has to make that determination. But just because they took a couple of different things that are attorney and client privilege, that's being destroyed. So kind of no harm, no foul, if you will.

And that doesn't seem to be not or that hasn't been not proven yet, if you will. I think they're still having that. They still have to find out if that's accurate or not. And the judge has to make that determination. But just because they took a couple of different things that are attorney and client privilege, that's being destroyed. So kind of no harm, no foul, if you will.

I don't think they're going to be very successful in trying to get the federal prosecutors off of this case.

I don't think they're going to be very successful in trying to get the federal prosecutors off of this case.

It's all allegations.

It's all allegations.

Well, he could, but he's also going to face additional charges if that happens because the federal government is then going to just hit him with a slew of charges for witness tampering and maybe other co-defendants as well. Not co-defendants, but other individuals who are acting on his behalf. I've read that his sons have been contacting individuals.

Well, he could, but he's also going to face additional charges if that happens because the federal government is then going to just hit him with a slew of charges for witness tampering and maybe other co-defendants as well. Not co-defendants, but other individuals who are acting on his behalf. I've read that his sons have been contacting individuals.

they could then be subject to federal crimes of witness tampering. Other associates associated with Diddy and his family also could be subject to that. So I think it would definitely hurt Diddy if this did come out. Furthermore, You know, Diddy's been trying to get out for a while, trying to get bail.

they could then be subject to federal crimes of witness tampering. Other associates associated with Diddy and his family also could be subject to that. So I think it would definitely hurt Diddy if this did come out. Furthermore, You know, Diddy's been trying to get out for a while, trying to get bail.

And if you're contacting witnesses in jail or having other people do it at your behest, a judge is never going to let you out of jail. So either way, it doesn't look good.

And if you're contacting witnesses in jail or having other people do it at your behest, a judge is never going to let you out of jail. So either way, it doesn't look good.

There really isn't. Although, you know, if they're reading the tea leaves, which, you know, his attorneys are very, very good from what I from what I gather. they're going to probably tell Diddy, you know, all right, enough. We lost. All right, we're not doing it. There has to be a change of circumstance for them to really have another shot at the apple, if you will.

There really isn't. Although, you know, if they're reading the tea leaves, which, you know, his attorneys are very, very good from what I from what I gather. they're going to probably tell Diddy, you know, all right, enough. We lost. All right, we're not doing it. There has to be a change of circumstance for them to really have another shot at the apple, if you will.

And at this particular time, I think they've had, what, two or three motions already? And I think this third one right now is still being considered by the judge. But there's not a change of circumstance. All they're doing is saying, all right, judge, look, We will make even more restrictions for Diddy. We'll put up X amount of dollars, $50 million.

And at this particular time, I think they've had, what, two or three motions already? And I think this third one right now is still being considered by the judge. But there's not a change of circumstance. All they're doing is saying, all right, judge, look, We will make even more restrictions for Diddy. We'll put up X amount of dollars, $50 million.

He can only go to his residence in New York City or Miami. And once he's there, he has to stay there. He can't have anybody there. He can't make any phone calls except to his legal team. He can't go on the Internet, can't do X, Y, Z. So they're trying to put more conditions on there. The problem is where is a change in circumstance? And there isn't any.

He can only go to his residence in New York City or Miami. And once he's there, he has to stay there. He can't have anybody there. He can't make any phone calls except to his legal team. He can't go on the Internet, can't do X, Y, Z. So they're trying to put more conditions on there. The problem is where is a change in circumstance? And there isn't any.

There's nothing that's changed from the previous position. The only thing that's changed right now is that there's allocations that Diddy and his team are contacting individuals. That's not going to bode well for him.

There's nothing that's changed from the previous position. The only thing that's changed right now is that there's allocations that Diddy and his team are contacting individuals. That's not going to bode well for him.

You know, I think that's a little that's going a little too far for the prosecutors, in my opinion. You know, is it true that they did that to potentially influence jurors? Maybe. Who knows? But. I don't buy it. You know, this is and a judge certainly isn't going to buy it. You know, how are they possibly going to prove that was their intent? They're not. They will never be able to do so.

You know, I think that's a little that's going a little too far for the prosecutors, in my opinion. You know, is it true that they did that to potentially influence jurors? Maybe. Who knows? But. I don't buy it. You know, this is and a judge certainly isn't going to buy it. You know, how are they possibly going to prove that was their intent? They're not. They will never be able to do so.

Now, you know, did they do that for that reason? No.

Now, you know, did they do that for that reason? No.

Yeah, the government, they're trying to stack everything they possibly can. Any scintilla of evidence of interference for witnesses, they're going to use it. Some of it is probably going to hold up. Some of it won't. I doubt this is going to be one of those things that holds up.

Yeah, the government, they're trying to stack everything they possibly can. Any scintilla of evidence of interference for witnesses, they're going to use it. Some of it is probably going to hold up. Some of it won't. I doubt this is going to be one of those things that holds up.

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Unless it's like a grand slam, which doesn't seem like it for some of these older cases. I don't see the government amending or modifying or adding other charges. It could be wrong, but the government only does things they know for 100 percent certainty that they are going to get a conviction. And with the civil cases, from what I've been reading, I'd be very skeptical.

Unless it's like a grand slam, which doesn't seem like it for some of these older cases. I don't see the government amending or modifying or adding other charges. It could be wrong, but the government only does things they know for 100 percent certainty that they are going to get a conviction. And with the civil cases, from what I've been reading, I'd be very skeptical.

Bingo, Kayla. Absolutely. If I'm Diddy's team, that's exactly how I'm going to be looking at it. And that's going to be kind of my theme at the trial that, look, it's disgusting. It's not for everybody. But this is what Diddy was into. And the other individual, Cassie, she was into it as well. They're two consenting adults. Nobody forced them, coerced them, threatened them to do this.

Bingo, Kayla. Absolutely. If I'm Diddy's team, that's exactly how I'm going to be looking at it. And that's going to be kind of my theme at the trial that, look, it's disgusting. It's not for everybody. But this is what Diddy was into. And the other individual, Cassie, she was into it as well. They're two consenting adults. Nobody forced them, coerced them, threatened them to do this.

Nobody was drugged. Nobody was blackmailed. This is just two individuals that you may not agree, may not appreciate their lifestyle, but this is what they like to do. That was just between them. So I would definitely be using that if I'm Diddy's attorneys.

Nobody was drugged. Nobody was blackmailed. This is just two individuals that you may not agree, may not appreciate their lifestyle, but this is what they like to do. That was just between them. So I would definitely be using that if I'm Diddy's attorneys.

And again, I think that's going to be a theme when this goes to trial that, look, you may not appreciate it, may not agree with it, but there's nothing wrong with it. Nothing illegal.

And again, I think that's going to be a theme when this goes to trial that, look, you may not appreciate it, may not agree with it, but there's nothing wrong with it. Nothing illegal.

Yep. Yep.

Yep. Yep.

I agree. And also, let me bring up another point. This is also potentially and I'm just speculating, but potentially this is probably a negotiation plea as well.

I agree. And also, let me bring up another point. This is also potentially and I'm just speculating, but potentially this is probably a negotiation plea as well.

ploy because I don't know if there's been any offers extended to Diddy and his legal team for a potential plea and if there are I'm sure they're incredibly long where probably you know looking at life in prison so maybe this is a ploy by them to lower that number because if they get this and it shows that Cassie you know is potentially is enjoying it on the videos and whatnot and again they're just they're able to

ploy because I don't know if there's been any offers extended to Diddy and his legal team for a potential plea and if there are I'm sure they're incredibly long where probably you know looking at life in prison so maybe this is a ploy by them to lower that number because if they get this and it shows that Cassie you know is potentially is enjoying it on the videos and whatnot and again they're just they're able to

to go after her credibility, the government will know that and they'll think, you know, maybe if we give a better deal, we don't have her go on the stand and she doesn't have to then answer questions that maybe she won't look good to a jury. It could be a negotiation ploy. I wouldn't put it past them.

to go after her credibility, the government will know that and they'll think, you know, maybe if we give a better deal, we don't have her go on the stand and she doesn't have to then answer questions that maybe she won't look good to a jury. It could be a negotiation ploy. I wouldn't put it past them.

Maybe. I don't know the terms of the settlement. I don't even know that that'll even be allowed to be presented as evidence in the trial. A lot of times when you have a settlement, you're going to have individuals who they sign NDAs, non-disclosures, meaning you can't talk about it unless it has some criminal or illegal aspects of it, which an NDA, you can't.

Maybe. I don't know the terms of the settlement. I don't even know that that'll even be allowed to be presented as evidence in the trial. A lot of times when you have a settlement, you're going to have individuals who they sign NDAs, non-disclosures, meaning you can't talk about it unless it has some criminal or illegal aspects of it, which an NDA, you can't.

So I don't know if that's going to be allowed, but If there was, if it is allowed, Diddy's attorneys are going to tag it. Why did you settle with Diddy? Why didn't you go to trial? Why are you saying, you know, I'll take money and run? Again, goes to her credibility. Credibility is everything when you are going to a trial.

So I don't know if that's going to be allowed, but If there was, if it is allowed, Diddy's attorneys are going to tag it. Why did you settle with Diddy? Why didn't you go to trial? Why are you saying, you know, I'll take money and run? Again, goes to her credibility. Credibility is everything when you are going to a trial.

And when you have a main witness who has credibility issues, which Cassie may or may not, I don't know, but reading all the things so far, they probably, they do have credibility. I'd say some type of credibility issues right now. We're too early on to say everything, but I think you have a point where if this does come out, these attorneys are going to attack it left and right.

And when you have a main witness who has credibility issues, which Cassie may or may not, I don't know, but reading all the things so far, they probably, they do have credibility. I'd say some type of credibility issues right now. We're too early on to say everything, but I think you have a point where if this does come out, these attorneys are going to attack it left and right.

So she's talking about the statute of limitations, I assume. Yeah. Yes. So there are no statute of limitations regarding that. So, yeah, did he? I mean... Just because there aren't statute of limitations that run doesn't necessarily mean that charges will be brought. Government and any prosecutor in this country will always look at the facts and look at the strength of the case.

So she's talking about the statute of limitations, I assume. Yeah. Yes. So there are no statute of limitations regarding that. So, yeah, did he? I mean... Just because there aren't statute of limitations that run doesn't necessarily mean that charges will be brought. Government and any prosecutor in this country will always look at the facts and look at the strength of the case.

If it's not a strong case because of the amount of time that has elapsed, They're not going to charge. They can't because how can you charge somebody when you really don't have any evidence besides just he said, she said thing that happened 20, 30 years ago, potentially. But there are yet to answer a question. There's no statute of limitations. They can they can do it all the way over.

If it's not a strong case because of the amount of time that has elapsed, They're not going to charge. They can't because how can you charge somebody when you really don't have any evidence besides just he said, she said thing that happened 20, 30 years ago, potentially. But there are yet to answer a question. There's no statute of limitations. They can they can do it all the way over.

Probably a couple of times. I can't remember. We have too much fun every time.

Probably a couple of times. I can't remember. We have too much fun every time.

Well, that's a good question. And number one, I 100% still go with my prediction that this is not going to happen in May. It's January, what today? 15th, 2025. Not happening. Oh yeah, right now. When will we know? I'd say it's got to be closer to the trial. I could probably see sometime in April where they would come down with it. Like you said, it could be closer.

Well, that's a good question. And number one, I 100% still go with my prediction that this is not going to happen in May. It's January, what today? 15th, 2025. Not happening. Oh yeah, right now. When will we know? I'd say it's got to be closer to the trial. I could probably see sometime in April where they would come down with it. Like you said, it could be closer.

It could be the day or two before trial. There's so much evidence here that it's impossible to prepare for it in that short amount of time. So I can't imagine that it's going to happen in May. I don't know when we're going to hear about it.

It could be the day or two before trial. There's so much evidence here that it's impossible to prepare for it in that short amount of time. So I can't imagine that it's going to happen in May. I don't know when we're going to hear about it.

And it could be just the next hearing where they are talking about the evidence and potentially these tapes and the judge rules one way or another, then we could have a much better understanding or a clear understanding, if you will, of when they could postpone it to. But, you know, at this point, I don't think I think it's too premature to say when exactly they are going to make that decision.

And it could be just the next hearing where they are talking about the evidence and potentially these tapes and the judge rules one way or another, then we could have a much better understanding or a clear understanding, if you will, of when they could postpone it to. But, you know, at this point, I don't think I think it's too premature to say when exactly they are going to make that decision.

But I'm telling you that right now, it's not going to happen.

But I'm telling you that right now, it's not going to happen.

Sort of. I mean, yeah, in layman's terms, yeah, that's the easiest way to do it. But look, so let's just say Diddy's team asked to have this adjourned for X amount of months or however long to prepare. Number one, the state or the government, they have to agree to it. I would assume they would. But the judge then has to agree to it. And I would assume they do vice versa.

Sort of. I mean, yeah, in layman's terms, yeah, that's the easiest way to do it. But look, so let's just say Diddy's team asked to have this adjourned for X amount of months or however long to prepare. Number one, the state or the government, they have to agree to it. I would assume they would. But the judge then has to agree to it. And I would assume they do vice versa.

The state wants to have it postponed. Diddy's attorneys have to agree to it as well. And there could be a little game of chicken, if you will, where one party says, oh, yeah, I want to I want to have it postponed. But the other says, no, we're ready to go. The judge is going to have to make the call there. But usually one party wants to have it adjourned and postponed to prepare more.

The state wants to have it postponed. Diddy's attorneys have to agree to it as well. And there could be a little game of chicken, if you will, where one party says, oh, yeah, I want to I want to have it postponed. But the other says, no, we're ready to go. The judge is going to have to make the call there. But usually one party wants to have it adjourned and postponed to prepare more.

The judge is going to agree to do it. Ninety nine percent of the time. I don't see it happening where they're not going to do so.

The judge is going to agree to do it. Ninety nine percent of the time. I don't see it happening where they're not going to do so.

It's creative. I will go with that. It's very creative. Look, attorneys, one of our main jobs is to make creative arguments. All right. Because a lot of times we're going to have cases that are not the easiest ones to deal with. They're not black and white by any means. So you have to come up with some creativity. Diddy's attorneys, they're getting paid a ton of money.

It's creative. I will go with that. It's very creative. Look, attorneys, one of our main jobs is to make creative arguments. All right. Because a lot of times we're going to have cases that are not the easiest ones to deal with. They're not black and white by any means. So you have to come up with some creativity. Diddy's attorneys, they're getting paid a ton of money.

So they're making their money worthier. And I think it's a good argument. I don't know how the judge is going to look at it, but I like it. I think it just shows you're thinking outside the box. To be honest, I think there may be a little truth to it. You know, who is the government to dictate what is good for everybody to see versus not? I think they have something to go back on.

So they're making their money worthier. And I think it's a good argument. I don't know how the judge is going to look at it, but I like it. I think it just shows you're thinking outside the box. To be honest, I think there may be a little truth to it. You know, who is the government to dictate what is good for everybody to see versus not? I think they have something to go back on.

Well, they don't have a consent agreement between the defense and the government. then they're going to have to argue it. They're going to both brief their own sides, meaning they're going to have to do written arguments, and then they're going to argue them in front of the judge, and the judge is going to rule however they decide.

Well, they don't have a consent agreement between the defense and the government. then they're going to have to argue it. They're going to both brief their own sides, meaning they're going to have to do written arguments, and then they're going to argue them in front of the judge, and the judge is going to rule however they decide.

I think the judge is going to rule not the whole way that Diddy Seymour wants, but I think they're going to get access to it at a much greater rate than they have it now.

I think the judge is going to rule not the whole way that Diddy Seymour wants, but I think they're going to get access to it at a much greater rate than they have it now.

Everybody says that.

Everybody says that.

You have to. I'd be very surprised if Diddy says, I'm guilty. So I don't see that happening. Everybody does that. You have to do that. You always have to enter not guilty pleasing. You have to fight it. You don't know how these cases are going to unravel. All right. Every case is different. I tell this to every client of mine.

You have to. I'd be very surprised if Diddy says, I'm guilty. So I don't see that happening. Everybody does that. You have to do that. You always have to enter not guilty pleasing. You have to fight it. You don't know how these cases are going to unravel. All right. Every case is different. I tell this to every client of mine.

And when I was a prosecutor, I tell it to every victim as well, if there are victims, even though you might have the same charges as, you know, Joe Schmoe with the street. That doesn't necessarily mean that the facts and the evidence are the same because one case is definitely going to be different than the other.

And when I was a prosecutor, I tell it to every victim as well, if there are victims, even though you might have the same charges as, you know, Joe Schmoe with the street. That doesn't necessarily mean that the facts and the evidence are the same because one case is definitely going to be different than the other.

In this situation, Diddy is very different than pretty much anybody else in the world. He's very wealthy. He's extremely well known. He's a celebrity. So all these things.

In this situation, Diddy is very different than pretty much anybody else in the world. He's very wealthy. He's extremely well known. He's a celebrity. So all these things.

including the evidence that they have or don't have you have to see how it plays out you have to examine every piece of it uh i i could see them maybe trying to get a plea deal but they have to go through every little nook and cranny of discovery meaning the defense does before they should even contemplate having a plea so i i think plea negotiations will happen one way or another.

including the evidence that they have or don't have you have to see how it plays out you have to examine every piece of it uh i i could see them maybe trying to get a plea deal but they have to go through every little nook and cranny of discovery meaning the defense does before they should even contemplate having a plea so i i think plea negotiations will happen one way or another.

I don't know when, but I think it's very likely that it will happen. But for Diddy to proclaim his innocence, if he didn't, I'd be shocked.

I don't know when, but I think it's very likely that it will happen. But for Diddy to proclaim his innocence, if he didn't, I'd be shocked.

So that does happen, although that's very rare. That's very rare because, you know, when you're in trial, unless it's going horribly for one person or one side, you're going to finish it because you've already gotten this far. Might as well let a jury decide it from there.

So that does happen, although that's very rare. That's very rare because, you know, when you're in trial, unless it's going horribly for one person or one side, you're going to finish it because you've already gotten this far. Might as well let a jury decide it from there.

You know, it's a good question. I doubt it due to the fact that we're talking, number one, the DOJ with Pam Bondi and whoever the United States attorney for the Eastern District is going to be. I would have a feeling that they are probably going to be even stronger on crime than the previous DOJ and administration. So I would think it'd be very, very unlikely.

You know, it's a good question. I doubt it due to the fact that we're talking, number one, the DOJ with Pam Bondi and whoever the United States attorney for the Eastern District is going to be. I would have a feeling that they are probably going to be even stronger on crime than the previous DOJ and administration. So I would think it'd be very, very unlikely.

that anything will change regarding any pleas or how this case is being looked at by the government. If anything, I think it's probably going to be worse for Diddy because the new U.S. attorney, whoever they may be and whoever looks at it, they may say, you know what? I don't like what I see here at all. No deals. Go for it all. So I don't see it changing. I see it potentially getting worse.

that anything will change regarding any pleas or how this case is being looked at by the government. If anything, I think it's probably going to be worse for Diddy because the new U.S. attorney, whoever they may be and whoever looks at it, they may say, you know what? I don't like what I see here at all. No deals. Go for it all. So I don't see it changing. I see it potentially getting worse.

That's a tough one. That's a tough one. I don't know. Look, if I have to say right now, I'd probably say no. But, you know, I'm not 100% about that. Again, trials, they're a crapshoot. And even though the government probably has a ton of evidence, you don't know how 12 jurors are going to act and how they're going to decide. And I think it's going to be very interesting.

That's a tough one. That's a tough one. I don't know. Look, if I have to say right now, I'd probably say no. But, you know, I'm not 100% about that. Again, trials, they're a crapshoot. And even though the government probably has a ton of evidence, you don't know how 12 jurors are going to act and how they're going to decide. And I think it's going to be very interesting.

And I don't think we're going to really... fully grasp and fully know what the government has and what Diddy's team has until we get much closer to trial and even in trial. But from everything I'm reading so far and what we all know, it's an uphill climb, but anything can change.

And I don't think we're going to really... fully grasp and fully know what the government has and what Diddy's team has until we get much closer to trial and even in trial. But from everything I'm reading so far and what we all know, it's an uphill climb, but anything can change.

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you know, the sexist manner. I don't know if I buy that, but I do agree with Diddy's attorneys. They should be turned over. If that is going to be evidence that is used, you have an obligation to turn it over. Now, reading the report, I saw that Diddy's attorneys were allowed to view the videos, but they were only allowed to view them in private with law enforcement overseeing everything.

you know, the sexist manner. I don't know if I buy that, but I do agree with Diddy's attorneys. They should be turned over. If that is going to be evidence that is used, you have an obligation to turn it over. Now, reading the report, I saw that Diddy's attorneys were allowed to view the videos, but they were only allowed to view them in private with law enforcement overseeing everything.

You can't do that. And Diddy needs to be have an opportunity to also go over because look, defendants, they have to be able to prepare for their own trial, whether they're, you know, innocent, guilty, doesn't matter. You're always innocent until proven guilty in this country. Last time I checked. So he has to be able to prepare. He's got obviously nothing to do during the day. He's in jail all day.

You can't do that. And Diddy needs to be have an opportunity to also go over because look, defendants, they have to be able to prepare for their own trial, whether they're, you know, innocent, guilty, doesn't matter. You're always innocent until proven guilty in this country. Last time I checked. So he has to be able to prepare. He's got obviously nothing to do during the day. He's in jail all day.

So he's going to have all the time in the world to prepare. He's got to see what's on these videos. But the other thing that I find very interesting is Diddy doesn't have these videos. Diddy never had these videos. They are in the possession of Cassie. That does undermine her credibility a little bit. It undermines that she is an alleged victim.

So he's going to have all the time in the world to prepare. He's got to see what's on these videos. But the other thing that I find very interesting is Diddy doesn't have these videos. Diddy never had these videos. They are in the possession of Cassie. That does undermine her credibility a little bit. It undermines that she is an alleged victim.

They're saying that she enjoyed the videos, that when you see them, that she enjoyed it. I don't know what's on them or not, but... If she had the videos herself and not Diddy, that would definitely bring a red flag to the government. And that would definitely help me if I'm Diddy's attorney, because I'm going to just go at her on the stand saying, why did you have these videos?

They're saying that she enjoyed the videos, that when you see them, that she enjoyed it. I don't know what's on them or not, but... If she had the videos herself and not Diddy, that would definitely bring a red flag to the government. And that would definitely help me if I'm Diddy's attorney, because I'm going to just go at her on the stand saying, why did you have these videos?

If you were horrified, if you were sexually assaulted, if there's images that were just gruesome and you'd never consented, why do you have these videos? And not just one, not just two, not just three, but nine of them. So there's a lot of questions that I that I would have. So they I if I'm these attorneys, I'm jumping up and down to have these videos.

If you were horrified, if you were sexually assaulted, if there's images that were just gruesome and you'd never consented, why do you have these videos? And not just one, not just two, not just three, but nine of them. So there's a lot of questions that I that I would have. So they I if I'm these attorneys, I'm jumping up and down to have these videos.

I'm sure they're probably, you know, not very flattering, if you will, and probably maybe embarrassing because who wants to have a sex tape out there? But look, this is a public trial. You have to have it.

I'm sure they're probably, you know, not very flattering, if you will, and probably maybe embarrassing because who wants to have a sex tape out there? But look, this is a public trial. You have to have it.

Well, let's just go back for a second, though. They want them to be turned over. That doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to be produced at the trial and that they're going to be used as evidence. Diddy's team just wants to see them. They want to see maybe they are going to use them. Maybe they aren't. Who knows?

Well, let's just go back for a second, though. They want them to be turned over. That doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to be produced at the trial and that they're going to be used as evidence. Diddy's team just wants to see them. They want to see maybe they are going to use them. Maybe they aren't. Who knows?

But if it's evidence that the government has, they are entitled to it and they have to be able to have it. So I'm not saying it's going to be in the trial. It may not be. But they're saying that they've already seen it, most of it sounds like. So they obviously think that there's something there.

But if it's evidence that the government has, they are entitled to it and they have to be able to have it. So I'm not saying it's going to be in the trial. It may not be. But they're saying that they've already seen it, most of it sounds like. So they obviously think that there's something there.

I can't imagine that you're going to, that they want to introduce it if you have open drugs and alcohol and everything like that out, you know, in the open, in the videos. So I'd be very interested if I was Diddy's and his attorney to see everything, what they have, and then maybe you'll use it, maybe you won't.

I can't imagine that you're going to, that they want to introduce it if you have open drugs and alcohol and everything like that out, you know, in the open, in the videos. So I'd be very interested if I was Diddy's and his attorney to see everything, what they have, and then maybe you'll use it, maybe you won't.

Yes. Yeah, they're going to have to. They're going to object to it, obviously, and the judge is going to have to rule whether they can be released to Diddy's attorneys. It's going to be interesting to see how the judge rules. I think he's probably going to rule—

Yes. Yeah, they're going to have to. They're going to object to it, obviously, and the judge is going to have to rule whether they can be released to Diddy's attorneys. It's going to be interesting to see how the judge rules. I think he's probably going to rule—

in favor of diddy some way but i don't think it's going to be the whole kit and caboodle because look diddy uh he has not been the model citizen in in the jail so far uh he there's allegations that he's contacted witnesses and tampered with the witnesses and other individuals that are associated with him as well also that

in favor of diddy some way but i don't think it's going to be the whole kit and caboodle because look diddy uh he has not been the model citizen in in the jail so far uh he there's allegations that he's contacted witnesses and tampered with the witnesses and other individuals that are associated with him as well also that

In the jail, he's also been using individuals' social media and phones to contact individuals. So I don't know if the judge is going to give it all over immediately to Diddy because he could then potentially...

In the jail, he's also been using individuals' social media and phones to contact individuals. So I don't know if the judge is going to give it all over immediately to Diddy because he could then potentially...

have other individuals look at it maybe i i don't know i would think there's going to be some type of protection on there that maybe diddy can only see it with his attorneys that the attorneys can't give him a copy of it you know i i don't think that the judge is going to just point blank give everything to diddy and his attorney i think there's going to be some type of protection

have other individuals look at it maybe i i don't know i would think there's going to be some type of protection on there that maybe diddy can only see it with his attorneys that the attorneys can't give him a copy of it you know i i don't think that the judge is going to just point blank give everything to diddy and his attorney i think there's going to be some type of protection

I think it's very fair. And again, Diddy has to prepare for trial. So the only way to prepare is to see all the evidence. And when you're only allowed to look at it for X amount of time and when you have guards and security looking over your shoulder... It's very difficult to do that, and there's no attorney-client privilege that way either.

I think it's very fair. And again, Diddy has to prepare for trial. So the only way to prepare is to see all the evidence. And when you're only allowed to look at it for X amount of time and when you have guards and security looking over your shoulder... It's very difficult to do that, and there's no attorney-client privilege that way either.

Probably. I wouldn't be surprised if there is. The other thing is there could be a consent order from Diddy's attorneys and the government where they enter into some type of an agreement where the attorneys for Diddy will only have access to it. to the Tates and that Diddy can only view them while in the presence of the attorneys.

Probably. I wouldn't be surprised if there is. The other thing is there could be a consent order from Diddy's attorneys and the government where they enter into some type of an agreement where the attorneys for Diddy will only have access to it. to the Tates and that Diddy can only view them while in the presence of the attorneys.

So I think that could also be something that would maybe streamline everything. But, you know, this has been a pretty difficult case for everybody involved and everybody is fighting for every little inch. So I wouldn't be surprised if there's going to be some type of a hearing. All right.

So I think that could also be something that would maybe streamline everything. But, you know, this has been a pretty difficult case for everybody involved and everybody is fighting for every little inch. So I wouldn't be surprised if there's going to be some type of a hearing. All right.

Well, I don't know what's on there, Kayla. So that's the thing. If there is damaging evidence for Cassie on there, and I'm just speculating, but let's just say that she's participating in things and looks like she's having a really good time. that obviously won't look good for her and her claims of what Diddy did. It'll undermine her credibility, like I said just previously.

Well, I don't know what's on there, Kayla. So that's the thing. If there is damaging evidence for Cassie on there, and I'm just speculating, but let's just say that she's participating in things and looks like she's having a really good time. that obviously won't look good for her and her claims of what Diddy did. It'll undermine her credibility, like I said just previously.

So I think the government would try not to allow that to be in. But it's called Brady evidence, meaning you have to turn over Everything that you have, whether you're going to use it or not, whether it's beneficial or not beneficial to the government, you have to turn it over. So I think that they're going to have to do it one way or another.

So I think the government would try not to allow that to be in. But it's called Brady evidence, meaning you have to turn over Everything that you have, whether you're going to use it or not, whether it's beneficial or not beneficial to the government, you have to turn it over. So I think that they're going to have to do it one way or another.

I'm sure they're probably scratching at the wall, trying not to turn this particular evidence over. But in the end, the judge is probably going to make them.

I'm sure they're probably scratching at the wall, trying not to turn this particular evidence over. But in the end, the judge is probably going to make them.

Both are realistic, honestly. Now, remember, you're going to have separate jurisdictions. So if there are claims where he sexually assaulted individuals in, let's say, L.A., well, his trial right now is in New York. So there would have to be separate claims there, separate complaints. But a lot of them are originating out of New York. So, yeah, they could be potentially modified and added into it.

Both are realistic, honestly. Now, remember, you're going to have separate jurisdictions. So if there are claims where he sexually assaulted individuals in, let's say, L.A., well, his trial right now is in New York. So there would have to be separate claims there, separate complaints. But a lot of them are originating out of New York. So, yeah, they could be potentially modified and added into it.

The problem that you have, though, and this is just goes for all sexual assault cases in general that are pretty old. These a lot of these cases you're hearing about or reading about, they're from the early 2000s or somewhere in the mid 2000s. where it's gonna be difficult to prove. Civil cases have a much lower burden than criminal cases.

The problem that you have, though, and this is just goes for all sexual assault cases in general that are pretty old. These a lot of these cases you're hearing about or reading about, they're from the early 2000s or somewhere in the mid 2000s. where it's gonna be difficult to prove. Civil cases have a much lower burden than criminal cases.

Criminal cases, you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. That's a very high burden. Civil cases, preponderance of the evidence, much lower burden. And if they can't even prove it in a civil case, there is no way in blue hell that the government will charge Diddy with these crimes. Because if they can't get it in civil, there's no way they're going to get it in criminal.

Criminal cases, you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. That's a very high burden. Civil cases, preponderance of the evidence, much lower burden. And if they can't even prove it in a civil case, there is no way in blue hell that the government will charge Diddy with these crimes. Because if they can't get it in civil, there's no way they're going to get it in criminal.

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That would be my argument, at least, because these new lawsuits, they all have read the And they all are up to date on the status quo, I guess, for Diddy. So that's why I'm very, very hesitant. But I don't know if that will even come in in the criminal trial whenever that happens, if it does happen.

That would be my argument, at least, because these new lawsuits, they all have read the And they all are up to date on the status quo, I guess, for Diddy. So that's why I'm very, very hesitant. But I don't know if that will even come in in the criminal trial whenever that happens, if it does happen.

Because there are certain things that may be allowed to come in, certain things that may not be able to come in. That's all the discovery and the motions that will be litigated by the teams.

Because there are certain things that may be allowed to come in, certain things that may not be able to come in. That's all the discovery and the motions that will be litigated by the teams.

I think it's a strong possibility. I'm not saying every one of them, because I don't know if some of these individuals are actual witnesses in the state's case against Diddy. Nobody knows because they all say Jane Doe and John Doe. So I have no idea. But I would venture to guess that the judge will probably not allow most of this evidence to come in.

I think it's a strong possibility. I'm not saying every one of them, because I don't know if some of these individuals are actual witnesses in the state's case against Diddy. Nobody knows because they all say Jane Doe and John Doe. So I have no idea. But I would venture to guess that the judge will probably not allow most of this evidence to come in.

Although they already have enough evidence, it sounds like today.

Although they already have enough evidence, it sounds like today.

Now, to date, there is over 30 at this point of individual lawsuits. And I was wondering, it could be at any point that these plaintiffs might come together and file together. Is that a possibility?

Now, to date, there is over 30 at this point of individual lawsuits. And I was wondering, it could be at any point that these plaintiffs might come together and file together. Is that a possibility?

You're thinking about a class action lawsuit?

You're thinking about a class action lawsuit?

Yes.

Yes.

Maybe, you know, you have to have a class. That's number one. So you have to have multiple individuals. I'll be honest with you. I never thought about that until right now. That's a good question.

Maybe, you know, you have to have a class. That's number one. So you have to have multiple individuals. I'll be honest with you. I never thought about that until right now. That's a good question.

There's power in numbers. That's kind of the biggest thing in this. The problem is, though, when you have a class action lawsuit, think about automobiles with cars. These airbags don't work or something like that. So all these individuals have the same exact car and the same exact issue happens. Where their airbags don't work. All right, you got the class action lawsuit.

There's power in numbers. That's kind of the biggest thing in this. The problem is, though, when you have a class action lawsuit, think about automobiles with cars. These airbags don't work or something like that. So all these individuals have the same exact car and the same exact issue happens. Where their airbags don't work. All right, you got the class action lawsuit.

Here, I don't know if you'd be able to do it exactly because how are you going to specify the exact acts and how are they going to be the exact same? I don't know if you're going to be able to do that. So I think they're really going to have to do individually. Now, they all could join. potentially, but that's definitely different than a class action lawsuit.

Here, I don't know if you'd be able to do it exactly because how are you going to specify the exact acts and how are they going to be the exact same? I don't know if you're going to be able to do that. So I think they're really going to have to do individually. Now, they all could join. potentially, but that's definitely different than a class action lawsuit.

So you can all join in it and you're going to have different claims. Yeah, that's a possibility. You could maybe do that. Again, power in numbers. But I don't know how they're going to do it. And let's be honest here. These companies right now, I don't know how liquid they are, how much... What is their financial status?

So you can all join in it and you're going to have different claims. Yeah, that's a possibility. You could maybe do that. Again, power in numbers. But I don't know how they're going to do it. And let's be honest here. These companies right now, I don't know how liquid they are, how much... What is their financial status?

They could be leveraged up to their eyeballs, potentially, especially with Diddy's legal issues that he has. And he has spent a ton of money on lawyers and everything else. I'd be very interested to see the financial wherewithal that Diddy has right now and its companies.

They could be leveraged up to their eyeballs, potentially, especially with Diddy's legal issues that he has. And he has spent a ton of money on lawyers and everything else. I'd be very interested to see the financial wherewithal that Diddy has right now and its companies.

Oh, my God. Diddy's legal team is going to retire. I mean, you know, this is like a wet dream for them, for an attorney. I can't even imagine how much money they are charging. The retainer fee. alone has to be insane. Had it been $10 million, maybe, maybe more.

Oh, my God. Diddy's legal team is going to retire. I mean, you know, this is like a wet dream for them, for an attorney. I can't even imagine how much money they are charging. The retainer fee. alone has to be insane. Had it been $10 million, maybe, maybe more.

We're just talking about the criminal case, right? Not even on the civil case.

We're just talking about the criminal case, right? Not even on the civil case.

Yeah, because he has on the criminal case, I want to say it's at least three attorneys that are known. And then you got to understand, you always got attorneys in the background doing all the kind of the grunt work. So, you know, like me, when I go to court, I'm like the face. I like to talk and all that kind of stuff.

Yeah, because he has on the criminal case, I want to say it's at least three attorneys that are known. And then you got to understand, you always got attorneys in the background doing all the kind of the grunt work. So, you know, like me, when I go to court, I'm like the face. I like to talk and all that kind of stuff.

I have the other attorneys in my firm doing all the research and then I can just... deal with that. They're the real workers, you know, when it comes to law firms. But the hours that they're putting into it have to be astronomical. And look, this is a very high profile, high powered attorney firm in New York that Diddy has.

I have the other attorneys in my firm doing all the research and then I can just... deal with that. They're the real workers, you know, when it comes to law firms. But the hours that they're putting into it have to be astronomical. And look, this is a very high profile, high powered attorney firm in New York that Diddy has.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if they're charging $1,200, $1,500 an hour, maybe more for all I know.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if they're charging $1,200, $1,500 an hour, maybe more for all I know.

I mean, it's got to be insane. And that also, remember, that doesn't include travel and the investigation that the legal team has to do. So that's all money that Diddy has to pay for as well. The sky's the limit. I mean, they see a whale, they're going to jump on it.

I mean, it's got to be insane. And that also, remember, that doesn't include travel and the investigation that the legal team has to do. So that's all money that Diddy has to pay for as well. The sky's the limit. I mean, they see a whale, they're going to jump on it.

Right now, I'd say it's got to be... I don't know, hundreds of millions. I think that might be a little high, but I could see it being in the 20 to 30 million dollar range right now. I think that I think that'd be very realistic.

Right now, I'd say it's got to be... I don't know, hundreds of millions. I think that might be a little high, but I could see it being in the 20 to 30 million dollar range right now. I think that I think that'd be very realistic.

I think that I think it might be going from a B to an M real quick.

I think that I think it might be going from a B to an M real quick.

Exactly. Although they, you know, frankly, Danny, you can always come here. All right. I'll be more than happy and I'll give you a discounted rate too.

Exactly. Although they, you know, frankly, Danny, you can always come here. All right. I'll be more than happy and I'll give you a discounted rate too.

I'm ready to go golfing in the warm weather.

I'm ready to go golfing in the warm weather.

Yes, but we get along really well.

Yes, but we get along really well.

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Welcome back to The Trial of Diddy. We're still here with criminal defense attorney David Gelman.

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You know, it's a good question. Typically, no. Frankly, any of my clients who have been incarcerated, I've never heard of them being transported in the middle of the night unless it's an emergency. Diddy is obviously a very special individual. He shouldn't get preferential treatment. Where he's at, but let's face it, he's going to. There's just no way around it.

You know, it's a good question. Typically, no. Frankly, any of my clients who have been incarcerated, I've never heard of them being transported in the middle of the night unless it's an emergency. Diddy is obviously a very special individual. He shouldn't get preferential treatment. Where he's at, but let's face it, he's going to. There's just no way around it.

It's been cold.

It's been cold.

He's not like the regular Joe Schmo that's incarcerated in that facility. So I don't know if this was done for security reasons, which it may have been. Because being late at night, the hospital is going to be a lot less crowded. Paparazzi is not going to be around. And the jail could facilitate it a little easier because you're not going to have inmates roaming around all the time.

He's not like the regular Joe Schmo that's incarcerated in that facility. So I don't know if this was done for security reasons, which it may have been. Because being late at night, the hospital is going to be a lot less crowded. Paparazzi is not going to be around. And the jail could facilitate it a little easier because you're not going to have inmates roaming around all the time.

I'm used to Cali weather, but it's been great.

I'm used to Cali weather, but it's been great.

So I think that could be one of the reasons, if not the main reason, that they did that at that time. But is it common to do these types of things in the middle of the night? No, it's not. From what I'm reading, it's not like it was a life saver. It wasn't like an emergency. Right.

So I think that could be one of the reasons, if not the main reason, that they did that at that time. But is it common to do these types of things in the middle of the night? No, it's not. From what I'm reading, it's not like it was a life saver. It wasn't like an emergency. Right.

Yeah, there was some speculation out there that there was that he might have been involved in a fight or something. But my sources said, no, it was a knee injury. He was a marathoner. So he just needed an MRI for his knee.

Yeah, there was some speculation out there that there was that he might have been involved in a fight or something. But my sources said, no, it was a knee injury. He was a marathoner. So he just needed an MRI for his knee.

I did want snow, but when I came here, it was sunny.

I did want snow, but when I came here, it was sunny.

Yeah, I mean, I don't, I think this is something that was planned. Yeah, I really do. And I just think it was just convenient at night to kind of not let anybody really know about it. Because think about it. If people knew that, oh, Diddy's going to the hospital, go get an MRI. Forget it. Yeah. We would have been all over it.

Yeah, I mean, I don't, I think this is something that was planned. Yeah, I really do. And I just think it was just convenient at night to kind of not let anybody really know about it. Because think about it. If people knew that, oh, Diddy's going to the hospital, go get an MRI. Forget it. Yeah. We would have been all over it.

Oh, yeah. That's big money. Big money.

Oh, yeah. That's big money. Big money.

In terms of even transporting an inmate, obviously of such notoriety, do they lock down the hospital or the area where he goes to? How does that all pan out?

In terms of even transporting an inmate, obviously of such notoriety, do they lock down the hospital or the area where he goes to? How does that all pan out?

Well, they're going to have a ton of security around him. I mean, Diddy isn't even going to be allowed to go to the bathroom without somebody there with him. So the security for some of that is going to be tremendous. Are they going to lock down the hospital? I highly doubt that.

Well, they're going to have a ton of security around him. I mean, Diddy isn't even going to be allowed to go to the bathroom without somebody there with him. So the security for some of that is going to be tremendous. Are they going to lock down the hospital? I highly doubt that.

But he's not going to go in the main entrance, I want to tell you that, like through the emergency room like anybody normally would. They're going to have a back entrance. They're going to go – through the back ways of the hospital, through potentially the service elevators and whatnot. I would be very shocked that people even knew he was there besides the individuals who were taking the MRI.

But he's not going to go in the main entrance, I want to tell you that, like through the emergency room like anybody normally would. They're going to have a back entrance. They're going to go – through the back ways of the hospital, through potentially the service elevators and whatnot. I would be very shocked that people even knew he was there besides the individuals who were taking the MRI.

Other than that, I think it's like, you know, like pretty covert.

Other than that, I think it's like, you know, like pretty covert.

David, can you talk a little bit about also, you know, Diddy sitting there in his cell as more lawsuits come forward and his criminal case kind of moves along, what it's like for him to be in that jail waiting in anticipation as even more things pop up almost every day?

David, can you talk a little bit about also, you know, Diddy sitting there in his cell as more lawsuits come forward and his criminal case kind of moves along, what it's like for him to be in that jail waiting in anticipation as even more things pop up almost every day?

Well, I've never been in jail, so I can't really give you a pronunciation.

Well, I've never been in jail, so I can't really give you a pronunciation.

For your clients that you've spoken to who've been sitting there,

For your clients that you've spoken to who've been sitting there,

So I would imagine it's probably pretty frustrating. And look, you are not in a very large place. Your jail cell is very small. And my clients, from what they've told me in the past and whatnot, all you can do is think about that. And it's Probably it could make somebody crazy. It really could, because all you do during the day is you have your case.

So I would imagine it's probably pretty frustrating. And look, you are not in a very large place. Your jail cell is very small. And my clients, from what they've told me in the past and whatnot, all you can do is think about that. And it's Probably it could make somebody crazy. It really could, because all you do during the day is you have your case.

And then also, I like to call these individuals jailhouse attorneys. So all these other inmates in there that are potentially talking to you, they're going to be like, oh, well, you should do this or your attorney should do this or you should research this and this. Like they're jailhouse attorneys. So they make attorney jobs like myself way more difficult. I always tell this to clients.

And then also, I like to call these individuals jailhouse attorneys. So all these other inmates in there that are potentially talking to you, they're going to be like, oh, well, you should do this or your attorney should do this or you should research this and this. Like they're jailhouse attorneys. So they make attorney jobs like myself way more difficult. I always tell this to clients.

Just don't ever listen to what anybody in the jail says to you regarding legal advice. All right. You want to listen to them about what they eat? Go for it. But when they tell you what to do in court, tell them you should shut up because you don't because they just they don't know what the heck they're talking about.

Just don't ever listen to what anybody in the jail says to you regarding legal advice. All right. You want to listen to them about what they eat? Go for it. But when they tell you what to do in court, tell them you should shut up because you don't because they just they don't know what the heck they're talking about.

Every time. Every time. And I'm like, look, I'm glad they went to law school and they've been studying all this. It's great. But, yeah, it's definitely difficult for them. And, you know, Diddy especially, because you got to think about a regular inmate there, right? They only have one case to think about, to really think about, all right?

Every time. Every time. And I'm like, look, I'm glad they went to law school and they've been studying all this. It's great. But, yeah, it's definitely difficult for them. And, you know, Diddy especially, because you got to think about a regular inmate there, right? They only have one case to think about, to really think about, all right?

Diddy, on the other hand, not only has this criminal case, which is very, very big and very complex, but now he has 30, you know, at least 30 lawsuits that are pending against him, right? you know, I'm sure it's very stressful. It's going to put a big toll on his mental health, obviously, as it would anybody, I would think.

Diddy, on the other hand, not only has this criminal case, which is very, very big and very complex, but now he has 30, you know, at least 30 lawsuits that are pending against him, right? you know, I'm sure it's very stressful. It's going to put a big toll on his mental health, obviously, as it would anybody, I would think.

And then, you know, let's also point to the fact that there's a possibility, and I'm sure Ndidi knows this, he'll never step foot out of a facility. So he's going to be in some type of a penitentiary for the rest of his life. So add all that together and it's a bad situation. I don't want to speculate about how he's feeling or anything, but I would anticipate that's probably pretty close.

And then, you know, let's also point to the fact that there's a possibility, and I'm sure Ndidi knows this, he'll never step foot out of a facility. So he's going to be in some type of a penitentiary for the rest of his life. So add all that together and it's a bad situation. I don't want to speculate about how he's feeling or anything, but I would anticipate that's probably pretty close.

Yeah. Yeah. Take another little step on it. His family on the outside is They're taking all the brunt, if you will. They're taking bullets for what he's accused of. And they're definitely not going to be living the same life they did a year ago. So I'm sure that's probably weighing on his mind as well.

Yeah. Yeah. Take another little step on it. His family on the outside is They're taking all the brunt, if you will. They're taking bullets for what he's accused of. And they're definitely not going to be living the same life they did a year ago. So I'm sure that's probably weighing on his mind as well.

Yes, these new claims allege that he, quote, trapped them in the limelight nightclub before moving them onto the Trump Hotel. The women claim that these incidents took place in the 1990s, but it's as yet unclear if they occurred on the same day. Will's story says that the hotel in question is believed to be the Trump International, which opened in 1997.

Yes, these new claims allege that he, quote, trapped them in the limelight nightclub before moving them onto the Trump Hotel. The women claim that these incidents took place in the 1990s, but it's as yet unclear if they occurred on the same day. Will's story says that the hotel in question is believed to be the Trump International, which opened in 1997.

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Now, in the first lawsuit, the woman said she was assaulted by Diddy several times, including in California, with one specific allegation claiming that she was coerced into group sex after attending an event at the Limelight. The lawsuit says Combs organized the event at the club and the top two floors were dedicated to, quote,

Now, in the first lawsuit, the woman said she was assaulted by Diddy several times, including in California, with one specific allegation claiming that she was coerced into group sex after attending an event at the Limelight. The lawsuit says Combs organized the event at the club and the top two floors were dedicated to, quote,

exclusive sex parties involving group sexual activities directed by and involving Combs. The woman claimed that when she tried to leave, she was ordered to stay before being taken with her friends to the Trump Hotel penthouse, where she claimed she was drugged and forced to participate in group sex activities during which she was sexually assaulted over a number of hours.

exclusive sex parties involving group sexual activities directed by and involving Combs. The woman claimed that when she tried to leave, she was ordered to stay before being taken with her friends to the Trump Hotel penthouse, where she claimed she was drugged and forced to participate in group sex activities during which she was sexually assaulted over a number of hours.

At the height of his career, Sean Diddy Combs had it all. It seemed like everything Diddy touched turned to gold. Now the once untouchable hip-hop mogul is fighting for his life as he faces multiple federal charges in New York, including sex trafficking and allegedly running a criminal enterprise.

At the height of his career, Sean Diddy Combs had it all. It seemed like everything Diddy touched turned to gold. Now the once untouchable hip-hop mogul is fighting for his life as he faces multiple federal charges in New York, including sex trafficking and allegedly running a criminal enterprise.

The suit goes on to say that both women were forced to engage in a group sex activity that she did not want to participate in. But Combs had made it clear that they had no choice and that they were not allowed to leave. Diddy and his legal team have denied the claims.

The suit goes on to say that both women were forced to engage in a group sex activity that she did not want to participate in. But Combs had made it clear that they had no choice and that they were not allowed to leave. Diddy and his legal team have denied the claims.

Yeah, that's right, Kayla, and that the suit covers a time when the plaintiff gained an opportunity to perform at an L.A. club where Combs was in attendance. Now, the man alleges that he was informed that if he performed well, Diddy might be interested in discussing a deal with his bad boy record label.