David Graham

We've also seen new maps in Missouri.

We saw a new map in North Carolina.

We saw a new map in Ohio, which makes two currently Democratic districts much more red.

And there's an ongoing battle in Indiana.

And I think this is such an interesting case where the White House has been pressuring Indiana Republicans to redraw their maps.

And there's real resistance on the state level.

from legislators who don't want to do this.

And so you see them in real time trying to resist pressure from the White House.

And I think who wins that will be a useful sign for just how effectively the White House can pressure people.

But it does feel like an arms race where both sides are trying to squeeze as many districts as they can.

And I think, you know, on the Democratic side where Democrats feel like they're forced to take up methods that they have in the past rejected.

So Trump makes everyone behave a little bit more like him.

Yeah.

I mean, it's going to be, by all accounts, a very close election.

If Trump didn't think it was a close election, he would not be pressuring Texas to squeeze a few seats here or North Carolina to squeeze a seat there.

If the margin of victory is, I don't know, maybe 10 seats, experts told me they think it's pretty hard to steal that kind of election.

But if it's only three or five seats, it's much easier to have shenanigans that cast doubt on things and try to flip the result and to defy voters' will.

Yeah, DOJ has election monitors and they do keep an eye on some races.

But what's different here is the kind of races they're choosing and what the Justice Department seems to focus on.

Historically, the Justice Department has been very concerned about voter suppression, and it's been looking at places where that has historically been an issue.