David Gborie

You're right.

Yeah. Much, much stupider.

I was going to say, it seems a lot more like you have that at work. You have that at work? Anywhere, right?

And that's like an empowering feeling, right? Yes, yes, yeah. That's like a great way to bond. I think it's any group, right? I mean, we see entertainers. Your friend group has in jokes, right? Sports. The beehive could kill people, right? Exactly, yes, yes.

That's a good one. That's a good enough one. That's better than what we got. Honestly, vastly superior than where we are. Of all the entertainers, I feel like, why don't we start giving athletes a shot at government?

Is that like to qualify for state?

I was going to say, I've been to so many different concerts of weird niche stuff where you're like, maybe the Disco Biscuits is a cult. I don't know. Mm-hmm.

I mean, what are you going to do with all that charisma? You got to put it somewhere, you know?

That would be a good one.

Who's that guy who had the game? Oh, God, yes. You know who I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yes. So that's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. You have this... broader subculture of self-help and a cult synonym comes out of it you know and i get it it's like the subculture it's already it's intimate you feel closer to those people than anybody else it definitely feels yes right for manipulation and scientology is a cult that comes out of the exact same subculture

And so – So does that mean like – So maybe like more, I'm just curious, like more broader cultural waves have never led. There's like the Swifties would not be a cult. No, no. There's most likely not going to be an offshoot of the Swifties that becomes a cult because it's so broad. It has to have already been kind of a smaller subset. That's interesting.

I just want a president who's good in the paint. You know what I mean?

Oh, buddy. Yeah. We're being run currently by someone who is seen as a magic man to many. Cults all the way down. Yes, exactly.

Yeah, that's exactly what I think. What an amazing man.

Yeah. Yeah. I think if I can reflect on my own personal life. Yeah. You meet a lot of guys who are just like, I'll die for the skate park or whatever thing. Yeah.

Whatever makes you feel a sense of home, I guess.

I think people forget fan is short for fanatic.

Yeah, bring it on. I think he's such a good man, he wouldn't do it. Yeah, exactly.

Right. It was enough. Built up an immunity.

And now you're like, hey, I know what that is.

Armchair quarterback. Backseat driver.

I just have an opinion.

Jose Canseco in a heartbeat. So funny.

No hockey players. That's probably fair.

That's probably fair. And we don't need somebody who likes to fist fight that much.

That's the worst sentence I've ever heard. Yeah, it sucks. I...

He could get stuff done.

This is Pete. It's the good stuff.

He holds himself as kind of like a deity. He kind of deifies himself on top of this.

Okay, so the retraining of yourself in order to make the world better. Exactly, exactly. Okay.

Is he drawing people to him physically or this is also all?

What Bay Area city? I'm a Bay Area guy. San Fran. San Fran. Oh, in the city?

Oh, OK. So this is like. Yes. I wonder what neighborhood feels like.

Is that ever a good thing when a big group of people move to boats? No. David, absolutely not. No. It feels like it never boats well.

It's for fun.

Or a lot of times just a harbor, like a houseboat.

If you want to be like a poop-the-bed alcoholic, a houseboat is the place for that.

Romance, you know?

Yeah.

They know some stuff you don't know.

Shit's going on under the bridge. That's an echo chamber you want to be a part of.

Are they actively, because you said the leader was not, are these people now actively working within AI or are they just talking about it?

I don't see there's so many other factors.

Yeah. That's the point. You have no it. It doesn't matter what you do. There's no autonomy in that. Right.

Yeah.

That's what they all came up with as the supreme answer for this question?

Self-described.

Oh, boy. Y'all...

This is stupid. This is all nuts.

This is why you leave it at the cocktail party.

Oh, no.

This isn't how thinking works. You make every decision.

There's a lot of assholes who use this term, but you got to go touch grass, man.

We have covered a lot of ground. I did forget there was also going to be murder.

And so to them- Do they have a time limit on it? Or do they have like a, do they have a, like- Is there any timing on it or is it just kind of like- Again, man, it's the rapture.

Okay.

You know, you could be amongst us already. Yeah.

I seem to be this guy, but I think this is why people need to get beat up sometimes.

Okay. Yeah. Okay. Starting to make sense, huh? This is a head fuck. That's so funny. Uh-huh. Oh, no. Yeah. Because like this whole time I've really been only thinking about it in theory, not like practical application because it's so insane, but oh no.

Yeah. Makes total sense. I have trouble saying right because it's so nuts.

Yeah, I mean, I'm behaving that way practically day to day. I don't think it would even take long. No. Right? You could fuck your shit up in a month just living like that.

They're still debating everything online.

It's funny how they invent this new thing and how quickly it goes into like traditional Judeo-Christian ideology. Like they're going to hell now? It is very funny.

Okay.

I'm not familiar with this at all.

Brother, find me somebody who doesn't feel that way. Mm-hmm.

Come on, man.

I believe that that's exactly how these people talk about themselves.

This is a wild ride.

fanfic is a massive, much longer than the first Harry Potter book rewrite of just the first Harry Potter book where Harry is- Wait, someone rewrote the Sorcerer's Stone to be a rational- Does nobody have anywhere to go ever? Does nobody ever go anywhere anymore?

Right.

So this isn't like a, this isn't, we're laughing, but this isn't. This is not a joke to them. Yeah, this is a fairly seriously sized movement. It's not 150 people online.

Right, right, right. That's good, you know? One of the most effective tools I've ever used.

They're too smart to work.

But it's not as sexy like I live in Denver. We were dealing with our own right wing immigration propaganda at that time.

They want to, now they want to make, because before it would just, it would sort of just come about and then they would, but now it's like,

You know, start a coin that makes a lot more sense.

I got to say, it is impressive the amount of time you would have to mull all this over to come to these conclusions, right?

Yeah, it's incredible.

The more you talk about this, it kind of feels like six people is a steal for how this could have gone.

You gotta throw some spice in there. You gotta have like a Latin country. That's what they get excited about.

I was just about to say, based on the breakdown you gave earlier, how could this? This is the perfect breeding ground. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Definitely, definitely. Even New Mexico could be.

Oh, man. You had said that this was going to be a weird one. I was like, yeah, it would be kind of weird. This is really the strangest thing I've ever heard this much about.

I do. I have a podcast called My Mama Told Me. I do it with Langston Kerman. And every week we have different guests on to discuss different black conspiracy theories. And kind of like folklore and stuff. All kinds of stuff. All kinds of stuff your foreign mother told you. It's usually foreign mothers.

Right.

Yeah, this is a very niche group. This is a very strange story.

And that's a group of people who could not meet each other without the invention of the internet. Right.

Oh, man, I cannot complain. How are you doing? There's nothing going on in the world. Everything's fine. Yeah.

That's Fox style.

That was just the common ground.

I haven't looked at any news yet purposefully. So I'm you know, it could be awesome. It could be going great out there.

Where is their hub? Is it like a message board type of situation? Like how is it? Yes.

Also, I do want to know what the etymology of Zizzy in it is. It's because from Zitz?

And so her first move- Is it the time to start a smaller subculture?

No, she's having a tough time out here.

No, she's making big jumps.

A lot of reluctant, like, I guess.

It's not traditionally people who have been touched, you know?

Yeah, I mean, you want to fill your time with importance, right? Right, yes. Regardless of what you do. And you want to feel like you have a cause worthy of fighting for. So in that, I guess I see how you got here.

Because they're not the hero. Because they're not the hero, right? You are. You are. You are the all-powerful hero.

Yes. Exactly. Yeah. I wonder if she's telling, you think she's telling people at work?

No, no, no. It seems like the general tech disruptor idea, you know?

I can't believe this guy continues to get traction.

On all levels, by the way. Everybody's thinking about it.

From the bar room to the board room. It's what everyone's talking about, always.

Jeremy, I want to tell you something.

Is that not just the bang bus?

Wow. Wow. Wow. What a place to end up. Yeah. I would love to see the other drafts.

Yeah. What came first?

Ultimately, to save it all, I have to make smart.

That's so wild.

I don't know if that's an investor. You need to give their money to that.

That's a hard time.

No, I was going to say it's a pretty reasonable conclusion for him.

It's not set up for you either. You kind of defied the odds. It's for, like you said, the rich people who get the job. Exactly. It's not even... Yes.

Yes.

And she's been following this man at this point for years, right?

Yeah, that's living in the world. You did the hard part. Yeah. They said they were going to do it. They said they'd do it. Yeah, that's like, they already said, we don't do this. That's where you're like, all right.

She should have heeded the warnings.

There's some steps skipped.

No, it's it's a. It's so scary. Yes, yes. It's very scary stuff. It's so scary to be like, oh, that's where she was operating.

Getting rid of Xanax. Before it gets to where it gets, at this point, you really feel for her. Just living like that. Every day, she's so scared that this is what she's doing.

I'm doing great. I really can't wait to see where this goes. Yeah. I feel like anything could happen at this point.

Exactly. She's so spun out at this point. It's like, how do you even get back How do you even get back?

Yeah, and even just with her convictions and things, she does it.

But they're there. They're based on an elaborate Harry Potter fan fiction book.

It's exactly that, where it's just like, you want to draw something so it's not nonsense. And then you realize, no, that's- No, no, no, no.

No, I don't think they're flying any flag.

Jeremy, I want to tell you something.

That's the power of it.

Can I tell you, I really, it felt like this is what was, this is like where it had to go, right?

Yeah, she lives in it now. It's so far for, we've been talking about it however long, she's so far away from us even. Yeah.

Oh, man. But she is at war with herself, really.

I forget that she's also dealing with that entire- Yes.

Were there people who did that?

No, this is awful.

Yeah, that's a great place to start. This isn't so leading people to destroy themselves. It's not even...

It's so crazy too. Where were these me? I just, in my head, I'm like, this is just happening in like a ballroom at a Radisson. I think it is.

Oh, you see like the sliver of hope.

That's its own kind of hell though, right? To think that you have this enlightenment and that you weren't good enough to participate. And she talks a lot about how I'd probably just kill myself.

Right. Because that's also looming.

It's also such a- So we're in a bad place here? Yeah. The crazy thing about her is that like- the amount of thinking just to like get in the shower to go to work, you know, you know what I mean? Like that, that, it just seems like it makes everything.

Every, every action is so loaded. Yes. Yes. The weight of that.

This is the conversation where she asked for the two.

You have to go with the hardest confrontation, right?

Yeah, you get the piss out of it as fast as possible.

That really is that.

Man, this is crazy.

How much does 10 weekends cost?

It feels like the same thinking, though, is like the robot's going to make it. It seems to always come back to this idea of like, I think we just got to be evil.

Yeah. Yeah. It's like it feels like it's a it's a theme here. Mm hmm.

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Yeah, this was, I don't really, I'm going to be thinking about this for weeks.

Just like us.

I hate to be this guy, but that's a lot of the fun of the game is killing the NPCs.

It's also one of those things where it's like, you got to think locally, man. There's people on your street who need help.