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David Frankel

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Why didn't you make the decision for me? The answer there typically has been with big distributions where large positions, so fund movers or it's half the fund, we distribute and we say it's up to you. With smaller positions, when it IPOs, so desktop metal, for instance, it got to the point where it was like, I don't know, worth $10 million, we sold and we take the cash and we distribute the cash.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Why didn't you make the decision for me? The answer there typically has been with big distributions where large positions, so fund movers or it's half the fund, we distribute and we say it's up to you. With smaller positions, when it IPOs, so desktop metal, for instance, it got to the point where it was like, I don't know, worth $10 million, we sold and we take the cash and we distribute the cash.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Why didn't you make the decision for me? The answer there typically has been with big distributions where large positions, so fund movers or it's half the fund, we distribute and we say it's up to you. With smaller positions, when it IPOs, so desktop metal, for instance, it got to the point where it was like, I don't know, worth $10 million, we sold and we take the cash and we distribute the cash.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

So I would say quantum or size versus the fund size is pretty much how we decide around that. Now, what our LPs did with their stakes, so TradeS 25X, Uber 150 billion. I don't even remember what the IPO price was. But Harry, that is, if I look back, I go like never sell a single thing. If you could, and people have to live and people have various desires, but if you could, never sell a share.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

So I would say quantum or size versus the fund size is pretty much how we decide around that. Now, what our LPs did with their stakes, so TradeS 25X, Uber 150 billion. I don't even remember what the IPO price was. But Harry, that is, if I look back, I go like never sell a single thing. If you could, and people have to live and people have various desires, but if you could, never sell a share.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

So I would say quantum or size versus the fund size is pretty much how we decide around that. Now, what our LPs did with their stakes, so TradeS 25X, Uber 150 billion. I don't even remember what the IPO price was. But Harry, that is, if I look back, I go like never sell a single thing. If you could, and people have to live and people have various desires, but if you could, never sell a share.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And I know we've gone through up and the down cycle, but great companies, companies with real moats, right? Like you want to be in those companies forever. That's when we get into Buffet land, right? And like, we're not good at that.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And I know we've gone through up and the down cycle, but great companies, companies with real moats, right? Like you want to be in those companies forever. That's when we get into Buffet land, right? And like, we're not good at that.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And I know we've gone through up and the down cycle, but great companies, companies with real moats, right? Like you want to be in those companies forever. That's when we get into Buffet land, right? And like, we're not good at that.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Well, I think the timing was problematic, right? Clearly. But I think the theory that they had, I'm impressed with them that they thought about that and they executed on it. I think the timing was unfortunate.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Well, I think the timing was problematic, right? Clearly. But I think the theory that they had, I'm impressed with them that they thought about that and they executed on it. I think the timing was unfortunate.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Well, I think the timing was problematic, right? Clearly. But I think the theory that they had, I'm impressed with them that they thought about that and they executed on it. I think the timing was unfortunate.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And then the companies still have to be extraordinary, right? So the company's in there and you could argue that they had those. So I think the strategy there was actually sound.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And then the companies still have to be extraordinary, right? So the company's in there and you could argue that they had those. So I think the strategy there was actually sound.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And then the companies still have to be extraordinary, right? So the company's in there and you could argue that they had those. So I think the strategy there was actually sound.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Oh, Harry, this is a subject I can keep you here all day on. But LEACH is Lethargic Economic Extractor Causing Harm. These are these legacy companies. A great example of them is the PBMs, the Pharmacy Benefit Managers. Companies that were very innovative 40 years ago. So a PBM connects the pharmacy to the insurer. You know, 40 years ago or 30 years ago, they were great companies, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Oh, Harry, this is a subject I can keep you here all day on. But LEACH is Lethargic Economic Extractor Causing Harm. These are these legacy companies. A great example of them is the PBMs, the Pharmacy Benefit Managers. Companies that were very innovative 40 years ago. So a PBM connects the pharmacy to the insurer. You know, 40 years ago or 30 years ago, they were great companies, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Oh, Harry, this is a subject I can keep you here all day on. But LEACH is Lethargic Economic Extractor Causing Harm. These are these legacy companies. A great example of them is the PBMs, the Pharmacy Benefit Managers. Companies that were very innovative 40 years ago. So a PBM connects the pharmacy to the insurer. You know, 40 years ago or 30 years ago, they were great companies, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And the insurance codes and how much you should pay out for your meds, great. And then you have the whole internet and you've still got hundreds of billions of market cap, hundreds of billions adding no value. And the problem is that these incumbents use every trick in the book. Capitalism's so beautifully set up for them.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And the insurance codes and how much you should pay out for your meds, great. And then you have the whole internet and you've still got hundreds of billions of market cap, hundreds of billions adding no value. And the problem is that these incumbents use every trick in the book. Capitalism's so beautifully set up for them.