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David Frankel

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I would say reserves and how to do the reserve thing is actually one of the most challenging aspects of venture. Still think of like pro-rot as like the original sin against entrepreneurs. You own your own destiny by minding your monthly burn. I think that DPI could be dead. LPs are looking at this asset class right now, I think, and going, where is the DPI? Those guys were just like a casino.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I would say reserves and how to do the reserve thing is actually one of the most challenging aspects of venture. Still think of like pro-rot as like the original sin against entrepreneurs. You own your own destiny by minding your monthly burn. I think that DPI could be dead. LPs are looking at this asset class right now, I think, and going, where is the DPI? Those guys were just like a casino.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I would say reserves and how to do the reserve thing is actually one of the most challenging aspects of venture. Still think of like pro-rot as like the original sin against entrepreneurs. You own your own destiny by minding your monthly burn. I think that DPI could be dead. LPs are looking at this asset class right now, I think, and going, where is the DPI? Those guys were just like a casino.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

One call to John a tiger, like 20 on 80, no problem.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

One call to John a tiger, like 20 on 80, no problem.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

One call to John a tiger, like 20 on 80, no problem.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I mean, I think you still can. I'm going to appeal to the inner McKinsey consultant in you. I know it exists. But if you think of right-wrong consensus, non-consensus, you don't have to only do kind of right non-consensus, but that's where you do do well. And there's lots of ways of still being non-consensual, I think. So if you think of non-consensus, founders...

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I mean, I think you still can. I'm going to appeal to the inner McKinsey consultant in you. I know it exists. But if you think of right-wrong consensus, non-consensus, you don't have to only do kind of right non-consensus, but that's where you do do well. And there's lots of ways of still being non-consensual, I think. So if you think of non-consensus, founders...

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I mean, I think you still can. I'm going to appeal to the inner McKinsey consultant in you. I know it exists. But if you think of right-wrong consensus, non-consensus, you don't have to only do kind of right non-consensus, but that's where you do do well. And there's lots of ways of still being non-consensual, I think. So if you think of non-consensus, founders...

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

People who come from less traditional backgrounds, people who come from secondary schools, right? That like mainstream is not going to back. That still very much exists. Frankly, founders who've had, who failed, right? You haven't done well. And like, you know, the mainstream is kind of like, wouldn't touch that. Founders who've been orphaned.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

People who come from less traditional backgrounds, people who come from secondary schools, right? That like mainstream is not going to back. That still very much exists. Frankly, founders who've had, who failed, right? You haven't done well. And like, you know, the mainstream is kind of like, wouldn't touch that. Founders who've been orphaned.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

People who come from less traditional backgrounds, people who come from secondary schools, right? That like mainstream is not going to back. That still very much exists. Frankly, founders who've had, who failed, right? You haven't done well. And like, you know, the mainstream is kind of like, wouldn't touch that. Founders who've been orphaned.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

So founders who come back and go, you know, I took money from one of those large funds. They went through the distance. They had to feel the pain, right? They said, I took money from one of those large funds. And man, like I got orphaned. They left me, they come back. So non-consensus founders, non-consensus market still.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

So founders who come back and go, you know, I took money from one of those large funds. They went through the distance. They had to feel the pain, right? They said, I took money from one of those large funds. And man, like I got orphaned. They left me, they come back. So non-consensus founders, non-consensus market still.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

So founders who come back and go, you know, I took money from one of those large funds. They went through the distance. They had to feel the pain, right? They said, I took money from one of those large funds. And man, like I got orphaned. They left me, they come back. So non-consensus founders, non-consensus market still.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Everyone says you gotta be right in non-consensus, but I often think, well, what do you mean by non-consensus? So you've got, if you were really early in new markets, 2009, the best bet, like everybody was like chasing, I don't know, nanotech. Bitcoin had to have been the greatest investment in 2009. 2015, Ethereum. I know everybody is chasing DTC, right? That's where the whole market's going.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Everyone says you gotta be right in non-consensus, but I often think, well, what do you mean by non-consensus? So you've got, if you were really early in new markets, 2009, the best bet, like everybody was like chasing, I don't know, nanotech. Bitcoin had to have been the greatest investment in 2009. 2015, Ethereum. I know everybody is chasing DTC, right? That's where the whole market's going.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Everyone says you gotta be right in non-consensus, but I often think, well, what do you mean by non-consensus? So you've got, if you were really early in new markets, 2009, the best bet, like everybody was like chasing, I don't know, nanotech. Bitcoin had to have been the greatest investment in 2009. 2015, Ethereum. I know everybody is chasing DTC, right? That's where the whole market's going.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

You go Ethereum. So new markets, non-consensus, you can still do very well. And then old markets, non-consensus. Harry, do you know one of the best portfolio companies that I'm on the board of right now? Smalls. It's cat food. Dude, it's cat food. Nobody likes cats. Like dogs get all the love. DTC is dead. Nobody will touch DTC. We try to raise money for this business, Smalls, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

You go Ethereum. So new markets, non-consensus, you can still do very well. And then old markets, non-consensus. Harry, do you know one of the best portfolio companies that I'm on the board of right now? Smalls. It's cat food. Dude, it's cat food. Nobody likes cats. Like dogs get all the love. DTC is dead. Nobody will touch DTC. We try to raise money for this business, Smalls, right?

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