David E. Sanger

So we have a new arms race underway that's AI-driven to go find or defeat this kind of code in our systems. And those big three things... Trump, the new Cold Wars, the arrival of artificial intelligence is leading to an entirely new era and some real brewing problems.

So we have a new arms race underway that's AI-driven to go find or defeat this kind of code in our systems. And those big three things... Trump, the new Cold Wars, the arrival of artificial intelligence is leading to an entirely new era and some real brewing problems.

Well, this is probably more the beginning of a conversation on The Daily rather than the end of one.

Well, this is probably more the beginning of a conversation on The Daily rather than the end of one.

Thanks, Sabrina. Great to be with you.

Thanks, Sabrina. Great to be with you.