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Daniel Miessler

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Darknet Diaries

144: Rachel

1981.583

Definitely.

Darknet Diaries

144: Rachel

3726.844

Yeah, it's a good point. Hey, Jack, can I jump in here? Yeah, who's this? This is Daniel Meisler. Oh, hey, Daniel. Yeah, what do you have to say about this? Yeah, so what I find fascinating about this whole story is that there's a very early concept in security about how do I know it's you, right? And we normally don't have to worry about this with video because seeing has always been believing.

Darknet Diaries

144: Rachel

3750.836

And the same with hearing for audio. But now with deepfakes for both video and audio, we need a whole nother layer. So what I actually expect to see here is products coming out that are basically like, how do I establish like early trust? Like as soon as you join a company, you'll probably establish like keys across like all of Slack or across like all of Microsoft Teams or something.

Darknet Diaries

144: Rachel

3777.3

And that's like your predetermined channel.

Darknet Diaries

144: Rachel

3827.89

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. We're going to need something like that for all remote calls, essentially, because it's like, first of all, the AI can copy both of our voices because we have our voice out there and that's easy to copy. But very soon, like, I won't know, honestly, if this is you right now on this call. Yeah.

Darknet Diaries

144: Rachel

3854.102

Exactly. Exactly. There's going to be some sort of challenge or like predetermined like key exchange. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.