Dan Richards
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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
And then, at the very least, even if he looked down his nose at everything Graham had to say, The cheddar comes in. The investigations happen and everybody's happy. Instead, they're closing his fucking department. I mean, dude, to me, it's just such a I mean, there might not necessarily be directly related, but he had an opportunity that he completely didn't just piss it away.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
He just drove it into the ground. did the opposite of what he should have done with it. And they do that as a matter of course. Jimmy Corsetti brought up once about a year ago on Twitter. He's like, oh, yeah, you know, I think the Nephilim in the Bible, it talks about the giants of Nephilim. I think maybe that might be an extinct species of hominid. And maybe Denisovans, maybe Neanderthal.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
So instead of being like, hey, that's interesting, man, but you know what? Denisovans and Neanderthal are both the wrong size for – neither one of them were bigger than humans, so they couldn't be giants. You need to look into Gigantopithecus or maybe some other and sent Jim on to go learn about science. Instead, they said, no, it's fucking stupid. Both of these are smaller than that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
God, this Jimmy Corsetti guy is a fucking grifter. God, he's stupid. And then – I can come along and point out that you missed an opportunity here, guys. Why are you doing it like this? Why are you being dicks instead of – you're here trying to be a science educator, right? Right. He has a bigger platform than you, right?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
It's interesting. Anytime they won't let you see the evidence, I get like all of my alarm bells go off. Right. But I understand why they wouldn't want you to see it if it really is the Ark. I'd like to see I guess the best thing we could do to test it without seeing the Ark would be to look into the claims that these guys go blind and they show signs.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
Eight foot three. Robert Wadlow. I grew up near him, so.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
The 20-year thing is nuts. Just throw that one out because that's the cynical side of things. That's where they are – we have to stick to what we know, what we believe. It's like just a couple of pharaohs before, that guy built three pyramids. So you can't just say, well, these guys were only building them each generation for tombs. It seems to me like it's a multigenerational project.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
Well, one of the things that's interesting to me about the giant bones, like the reports that they go – the things that they use to really – their smoking gun is like there's a few reports from like the West Coast and like Grand Canyon and shit. And they would send these letters back being like – or the newspaper that this guy discovered these big giant bones and they're bringing them back. Right.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
I'm of the opinion, being the skeptical person I am, I'm of the opinion that this was more of an announcement to the people back east that, hey, if these things happen to get stolen along the way and I happen to find a bunch of money along the way, now's your chance because once they get to the Smithsonian, boys, they're theirs. So I don't think any of them made it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
If these exist, if they were giant bones at all, I don't think a damn one of them made it to the Smithsonian. I think they got bought up and they're sitting there. I mean, fuck, come on.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
Jesus Christ. You have a giant skeleton in your house? Fucking metal plates on his face and stuff. They're fucking real?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
And that's basically how that's – That probably happens a lot, right? Because these archaeologists aren't making much money. No. And, of course, it happens a lot, especially in the third world and shit. Oh, yeah. I mean, and that's where all the – not all, but that's where a lot of the cool stuff is.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
But you go to a place like that, it's like your boy up in Alaska finds a spot, and because it's not human remains, he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Now, if those were native remains, it would be a different story. Right. And, like, he's pulling cash out of that. But guys in other countries where they don't even have enough to feed. I mean, look at how the Dead Sea Scrolls were found, right?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
They just buy them off of fucking little kids and shit, right? People that had no money. Like, the kids throw rocks up there, and then they find them, and then the dudes that buys the first ones were bought from the kids that found them.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
If these guys were the ones that built them like the historians say, it seems to me like – Every generation was working on three. I break ground on my grandsons. I'm getting my sons going, and I'm finishing mine. Every generation was probably doing that because these things probably took 100 years to build, man. They're huge.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
Mexico and Mexico. Which ones do you think they took first?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
You walk in there and there's all these 200 of them. One of them is really extra crazy looking. Give me that one. Give me the alien. The one with the giant head. The reports that I told you Rockefeller got those big skulls, the reports say that they gave him three or four bundles that were in desperate need of repair. I call bullshit on that.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
I think he got the four best motherfucking bundles they had. Probably.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
Yes, I've heard this. Yeah. That's basically one guy's story. It's cool. I want to believe. That's the problem. I want to believe too. That's the problem. I want to believe too. But why would they hide that from us? Well- The only reason that there's a part of the Grand Canyon you can't go to. That is true. Dun, dun, dun.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
I think it has to do with Native American stuff, but I haven't dug too terribly into this, to be honest with you.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
It might even just be because they're worried about people falling off the side of a cliff or something and dying. But they die every day. Yeah, they do. Not every day, but like every year someone dies at the Grand Canyon. But this is supposed to be – that cave was supposed to be in that area, and it's supposed to be like pretty hard to find, pretty inaccessible.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
But, yeah, it was supposed to have all kinds of Egyptian relics and stuff in there.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
No. No. No. Yeah, we're going to release the documents. Sure. Once they said they were going to release the documents, I was like, sweet, I'm going to go look into it. And they're like, oh, it's just going to take a couple, three. Okay, fuck you. Well, they have to go through it all. Because they haven't done that yet. Yeah, I don't know. Well, I get it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
Maybe it could be the grandson of one of the people involved has got power or something nowadays. It doesn't really matter a whole lot. If there's power involved, they're just going to kick that can.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
Thanks for the invite, Joe. I really appreciate it. My pleasure. Great conversation.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
And the argument, of course, would be this is the kind of stuff that would get looted right away, right? If you watch Mad Max, they're not running around picking up bottle caps. They're picking up the stuff you can use. Right.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
On the flip side of that, the evidence – if you look at any one of your videos or mine that are about the pyramids, you're going to have thousands of comments of people that are like, here's my theory on the pyramids. And most of these are pretty mundane. Most of these are, I think they might have used water to –
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
We kind of need to exhaust – in my mind, we kind of need to exhaust all that mundane shit that people can throw at this problem before we really can start saying, OK, now let's just step outside of history and speculate harder. I'm willing to entertain the things, but if you really want to find out what happened in my mind, you kind of have to be more grounded with it. That's how I look at it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
Yes, they all just exhibit signs of radiation poisoning. They go blind, they die quickly, and then somebody else, one priest at a time, is allowed to be the caretaker of the Ark. How long do they live? They want to say like a couple years, something like that. I can't remember. It's not very long, yeah. They die pretty quick. Imagine that job. Yeah.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
That is wild. It's sad that he doesn't want to bring the scientists in, but I can understand why. The way that things are nowadays, it's... He doesn't trust them. Exactly.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
A lot of the scientists, most of the scientists are actually scientists, but the ones that we end up seeing are the ones that are invested in creating a narrative. They're the ones that they want to make sure that pseudo-archaeology and pseudo-science is always on its back foot and never gets a fair day in court and blah, blah, blah.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
These guys, they don't give us any real accurate interpretation of the data. They'll step way outside of their lane to tell you what's going on. Oh, you mean like Flint Dibble?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's he's he's good at what he does, at least as far as that stuff goes. But like like there was another there's a guy that's a trained anthropologist that made a couple of videos about him, Sam Urban from Illegitimate Scholar. And he I think Graham mentioned him here before. He he's a he specialized in.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Yeah, but there's a lot of evidence in that book that was really interesting, like the Knights Templar statues and stuff and old Paris cathedrals that would lead Graham to Ethiopia, just all kinds of weird stuff that made it really interesting, little... Indiana Jones, man. It's like real life kind of Indiana Jones shit. And so I was just anxious for that fingerprints.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
underwater shipwrecks and he just blasted the stuff that Flint said not just the three million shipwreck he just blasted on a scientific level this is wrong this is wrong this is wrong this is wrong yeah he got way out of his lane with that yeah and that's you know I that's I guess one of the biggest things here all those guys right now are laughing going you're an electrician Dan you're outside your lane every time you talk about this shit but the difference isn't you're outside your lane I'm outside my lane if I'm not talking about people getting beat up or cracking jokes yeah
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
Well, only you would have a painting of you busting Shane Gillis' ass. I didn't make that. Every time he posts that picture, he's like, I had a great time on GRE. I'm like, man, I've seen that. That's a beautiful work of art, right? It's very pretty. Very pretty. Good painting.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
But there's a difference. And this is like what you alluded to it a minute ago, where it's like there's a difference between saying we know for a fact and we're not sure. And, you know, a common atheist argument, if you talk like Richard Dawkins, you'll say the minute that a scientist says God did it, they're not worth a fuck to me in the lab because they're not working anymore.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
They're like, I've got the answer. Right. That's the same thing as the science is settled. If you say the science is done, we know for a fact. You can't say that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
And there's a lot to be said that you can't see about ancient Egypt that's amazing, like You know, the Bronze Age collapse. You've heard of that, right? And the Sea Peoples. Egypt was like the big power that survived. Like all these other big powers, they were destroyed. They were crushed. They lost everything. Now, Egypt got smaller, but it survived.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It wasn't until the Greeks came along that it was... I mean, they'd been conquered off and on, but it wasn't until the Greeks came along that they were truly subjugated. And that's... Thousands and thousands and thousands of years. And by the time the Greeks showed up...
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#2267 - Dan Richards
That shit was so old that you look on the Osirian, they say that there's graffiti that's like the sacred geometry shit that was Hermeticism that was popular in Greece. So they're seeing Hermeticist stuff with the sacred geometry on it. And that's like thousands of years later. Their minds are blown the same as ours are today. Wow.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
And that's really fucked when you think about Alexander the Great going there and tripping balls on the same shit we do. That's crazy, man.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
I should have airdropped this to Jamie. I'll send it to him in a second. There's an image that I've got of – that was just sent to me that's pretty amazing. There's a wall of one of the magazines in one of the pyramids that has a bunch of those vases in it, and this wall is, like, it's collapsed, and the magazine is the name for a room. Anyway, they reconstructed this room.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
They reconstructed the wall, and it's got a... A piece of one of those vases in the fucking wall. Like, right in the rubble that makes up the wall. And I could not... I just... Shit, I don't even have it saved. I'm sorry. Let me grab it real quick. Sorry.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
You would think that our boys would be all over that shit with the satellites and be like, yeah, that's a spot to watch out for. Send a team. Right, right.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
20 minutes is about 30 extra. My son actually, he wanted an iPhone so bad. I got him an iPhone, had it for two years, and he's like, can I please have an Android? I'm so tired of having to charge my phone twice a day at school.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
The only time I ever had that problem recently was when I went to the Met. I went to the Met Museum in New York, and I was blown away by the artifacts and stuff and ended up basically burning my phone into the ground.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It's a clay pot. There's a number of them. They're clay vessels. They have a –
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#2267 - Dan Richards
uh copper and lead inside of them and the way that the cap is and stuff you could potentially fill them with orange juice or something like that a minor acid and get an electric charge from it now wouldn't be much of one but you could do it and that's something that's worth noting right there is that you can this has been archaeologists have determined that well yeah i mean we don't like to admit it but yes these potentially could have been batteries so
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#2267 - Dan Richards
That would make sense. I saw that on Twitter. I saw a few guys talking about it. That would definitely make sense. It's weird that the drones just kind of stopped around Christmastime.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
That's exactly right. I agree with you. More scientifically literate, I think, than most of the people that I know. And I kind of feel like Shane Gillis jokes about being nicked by the Down syndrome thing. I feel like I was nicked by that antisocial thing. I walk into a bar, and if I don't know anybody, my first instinct is just to go sit in the corner and watch.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It won't be stimulating. It's the opposite of stimulating. It's brutal. Oh, it's terrible, yeah. But if you sit in the corner and watch, well, then you look like the weird old guy creeper in from the fucking corner. So you just go sit at the bar and talk to people. I'm aware that I can be a little off that way. But these guys, every now and again, one of them will show up that's like a Carl Sagan.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
This guy, he's just a regular Joe. He can talk to everybody, and he happens to be a fucking great scientist. And he got a lot of shit from his colleagues for that. He got a lot of shit from his colleagues for taking the time to talk to the peasants. Yeah. And the way he did it wasn't abrasive.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
If somebody asked him about aliens, if they're like, man, what do you think the aliens were up to over on Alpha Centauri? What kind of technology do you think they have? That's almost his initial response would be like, you're always thinking, how the fuck? Fuck am I supposed to know? Right. But then he, well, you know, Alpha Centauri is about a billion years older than our star.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
So if you were to assume that they were around for a billion years longer than us and had the same stuff. And so he would entertain them. And then he would do things. He would interject a little bit of science. When they would ask a question, he would answer it and make sure that there was a little science in that.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
So that people that really didn't give a fuck about learning about the science, they just want to talk about UFOs.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Spoon full of sugar and the fucking medicine went down. You're walking out with some science in your head, bitch. Like it or not.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It's one of those things where I was talking to Jamie just before the show. It is a bad day to be a professional skeptic, I'm telling you what. If you've been living the last 20 years poo-pooing all the aliens and UFO shit and whatnot, man, oh, man, is it a rough day for you. Because if that same shit was LIDAR from the South American forest, you'd be like, yeah, there's probably a village there.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It was weird. They just stopped at the Christmas time. I was kind of worried about that because I went to see Mark Gagnon in Brooklyn. I just was there last week and I was like, man, I hope I don't see a bunch of... Drones in the sky and stuff still, because I've had that booked out for a couple of months.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
I think that might even be a little small. Smaller than that?
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Like I said, if you were to tell me that was a LiDAR picture from South America, I'd be like, okay.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
I haven't seen that one, but I've seen people talking about a few things like that. See if you can find that one, Jamie.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
I did that in a video once, kind of being a dick, making fun of the idea that there's all this data encoded in the vases. I have no problem with the idea of the vases being, like, you know, proof that these guys were... They're definitely fucking exacting and whatnot. But the idea that they've, like, hidden data... Is that the Cydonia face?
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Well, Jimmy was sharing that video in response to this, Buzz Aldrin, saying that there's like a monolith on the moon.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2267 - Dan Richards
I saw a lot of videos of them, and I saw a few guys talking about them that seemed somewhat credible on Twitter. But I didn't see guys that had talked about being weapons developers and stuff like that. Yeah. It's so easy nowadays to just bullshit your way through things, and there's money in it, right? I mean, you get clicks.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
I hadn't seen that before. I mean, I embarrassingly hadn't. I've always been a little out of the UFO side of things. I've always watched it, but always, you know, just a little bit. I'm usually looking at pyramids and shit.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Tell me what you know. Did you really go? I like the clip when he punches that fucking dude.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It's crazy to think that stress is needed. If you don't have those kinds of stresses in your life, your body just... Yeah, which fucks up the whole Superman myth.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
And this is where, in my mind, this is where that skeptics versus dreamers thing gets really fucked because the answer should be the same for everybody. Let's just, next expedition, let's poke around a little up there, right? Let's find out the evidence. But the answer is always, from one side, it's definitely this. From the other side, it's definitely not.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Not completely, but to the point where we don't get... to draw a parallel without Yonaguni, the underwater site that Graham Hancock likes to talk about. The skeptics are certain that it's a geological formation. Most of the other people are not. We need work done. The clear fucking answer is just put some money at it, put some bodies on it.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
And until then, the answer in my mind is when somebody asks me, what do I think about Yonaguni? I say, well, it's interesting. You know what? probably been eroded for a long time. So it might be manmade and just looks naturally. It might be natural. We need more evidence before I'm going to hang my hat anywhere. Right. Which is very reasonable.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
So it's like there's – the days of it needing to be a government conspiracy in my mind are, like, way long gone. If I pretend I see Bigfoot and I fake it good enough to get a bunch of – to get on Joe Rogan, well, man, I'm doing pretty fucking good now, ain't I? Yeah, you can make some money. Exactly. That is a real problem. I'm really skeptical of, like, everybody nowadays. Yeah.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
And in all honesty, it should be the scientific position. It should be the position that the scientists are espousing if they wanted to have credibility in this sphere. They should be the ones towing that line and then let the pyramid idiots all be certain. And this is how we know it was. Scientists can look, but instead they get in the mud and act just like everybody else.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
And they're right. I would agree with a geologist that there's a really good chance that it's just beach rock. However— We can do work. Yeah. This is the stuff. It's like other people that, you know, if you say that the rocks are geopolymers and sex say who I'm on or whatever.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It's like there's no reason for us to argue about this, man. We just fucking do some work.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Yeah, you're accurate there. There's a thought tool that archaeologists use called the Silurian hypothesis. And Silurian's like this Doctor Who bad guy that was... Went into hibernation. There were lizards. They went into hibernation like before the dinosaurs died out and then they wake up one day and there's all these monkeys running around on their planet and so.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
But that's the Doctor Who thing, right? But the Silurian hypothesis is basically a thought tool for archaeologists and historians to say, well, if there was an advanced civilization on Earth 10 million years ago, what will we need to find in order for it to exist? Or what would we find now, 10 million years later? And the answer is usually like radioactive material.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It's like 10 million years, man. You might find a couple of bones, but the odds of finding anything that's going to actually prove that they had technology? Not much.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
The video that you sent me yesterday, the one with the stone nubs, they talked about holes. All those, I can't say for all of the sites, but like the Coliseum and stuff, they used metal to bond the bricks together and the concrete together in places. So years later... When the city's under attack and they need metal to make swords, they looted it. That's recorded.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Oh, all over the place. Even that Montana thing, which is weird. You'll see them on Egyptian sarcophagi. You'll see them on the unfinished casing stones at the bottom of Menkaure's Pyramid. You'll see them basically at almost every megalithic site on the planet has some nubs somewhere. If they're finished blocks, you'll usually find nubs somewhere.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, there's a technique called a lifting boss that's used to lift big things like that. But there's a couple of issues with that being the only reason that they're used. For one, a lot of times they're small like that and they wouldn't really do you much good. For two, a lot of times we see them like on the lids of a coffin, for example.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
which you wouldn't want to leave it there afterwards because you don't want to facilitate the next guy to be able to pop the coffin lid, right?
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#2267 - Dan Richards
In order to catch a rope or keep it from walking or something like that.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Yeah, oh yeah, there's, like I said, there's, they are, lifting bosses are a thing. They're not, it's not unknown. And there's a good possibility, I mean, there's not a good possibility, but quite certainly, quite frequently, these were used for that.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
The fact, a lot of people do bring up a good point. I didn't talk about it in my video, but it's an interesting point is that why did they get left? Now, like that one around the windows there, like to me that's pretty clearly – to the left, Jamie. Sorry, that one right there. Yeah. That one's pretty clearly to me like that's functional, right? I mean they're – Right.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Veranda or some shit. Yeah. A smoking balcony. But – Some of them, on the other hand, they look a lot more questionable. Okay, like... Those are odd. Yeah, thank you. Those are really odd. They're just fucking weird. And sometimes you see them on things that don't, like the stone was carved in the ground and they left these on.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Now, on stones like these, you don't really need a lifting boss. Look at that stone that's on the right there that's all one to the left, that guy there. You could just use that lip on the corner right below the cursor. You could use that lip for a lifting boss. You could tie a rope around that thing and push it wherever the fuck you want it.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
No, yeah. But again, you could just pop it into the corner on the side and do the same thing.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Yeah, I mean, that's the lifting boss is what the mainstream explanation is. I say that all of them were for that. And there's again, there's it's the ubiquity that really makes it different to me. It's like and the popping up on different sides of the ocean. And that's where it just seems kind of weird. It's like a.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
For it to show up looking so similar, used so similar, all over the place, left behind when they're done, that's kind of weird, too. Right. They didn't polish them down. They didn't polish them down, yeah. The rest of the walls, a lot of times, I mean, the stones are fitted so well together, clearly they knew how to make these stones flat as fuck.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Why is this part still got this big tit hanging off of it? It's weird. Right.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
despite the title of my video saying the true purpose that's just clickbait nobody knows there's the best mainstream explanation would be lifting buses the most common alternate history explanation is usually like it's like a leftover from the concrete being pulled out like the guy in the video was saying or it's like if you have a bag of concrete and it's just like the one little spot that kind of seeps out
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#2267 - Dan Richards
If not, like I was saying with the satellites, in all honesty, the feds monitor that kind of shit, like heavily. Mm-hmm. So, I mean, if it's possible that it wouldn't be, you know, any kind of weapons-grade-y stuff, so they might just not be looking for that particularly. Can they monitor for gamma radiation from satellites? Can they do that? I'm not sure.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Yeah, no. Again, we can test these things. That's where some of the guys that claim that everything's geopolymers will pretend that we can't test things. But the reality is we absolutely can test for that kind of shit. I mean it's not difficult at all actually. So the problem is – and this is where it gets – like you said, the archaeologists stand between things.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
The problem is that in certain places in the world, like Peru, for example, and Bolivia, it's fucking hard to get – Look at those alien bodies right down in Peru, right? Yeah. Okay. Oh, we've been looking at them. Oh, I'm sure you have. And the scientists keep saying they're real. But the only fucking scientists I ever see weighing in on them are Peruvian scientists.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It's like, okay, let some people from around the world... Oh, no, no, no. Fuck you guys. These are us. All right, man. That's... But is that like a hyper-exaggerated version of the boneyard? It could be. With deeper implications? It could be, but we've seen a lot of the same kind of stuff with them with... They have a problem in Peru with archaeology and corruption with the money.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
I don't know if you saw my video on the elongated skulls. I didn't. That video, I just covered basically how those things came in these big bundles. They'd get these grave bags, and there'd be a body in there. And so they harvested a couple, at least like 600 of these bundles. And...
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Every time they just get opened and willy-nilly shit get moved around, Rockefeller ends up trading for a few of them into finance because they didn't have finances to store these things properly. So Rockefeller got some of those heads? Oh, yeah. And we don't know how many exactly he –
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#2267 - Dan Richards
reportedly just four but like he gives the money to these people to like restore all these mummies and the first thing that they do is they restore a bunch of textiles that other mummies that they don't have anymore were like packed in and shit it's just even all the way up into the 60s an anthropologist opened like 70 some odd bundles and
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recorded what he found in four of them, and put the rest back on the fucking shelf. They've been stealing artifacts and selling them on the open market. It's all about money.
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I want one with a head. I want one with a really weird head. Which one's got the best head? Let's open 60. And that's just the Cusco tunnels. They just... This one's so fucked. They just announced this January archaeologists have discovered that there are tunnels running under Cusco and Peru. They connect the Temple of the Sun to the fortress of Sacsayhuaman and some other places around there.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Oh, this is crazy. It's going to be great, man. We did all this lidar. It's going to be amazing. Amazing discovery. Brian Forrester uploaded a video like 11 years ago of him going on a tour of those tunnels. You could pay a guide 20 years ago to go on a tour of those tunnels. The Spanish were writing about them in the 1600s and the late 1500s.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
The only reason that we didn't investigate these tunnels is because in the 30s was when archaeology started becoming a thing and going down there and checking out those skulls and shit. And at the exact same time, Madame Blavatsky and Edgar Cayce was like, you know, those tunnels that are supposed to be down there, I bet they were built by the Atlanteans.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
I know that they can look for – I know they can look for – I'm not sure how they detect it. I'm not sure what they use to detect it. But I know that they can look for radioactive material from space.
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And so ever since then, archaeologists have pooh-poohed it. There was a guy in the 2000s that he's an Atlantis hunter. He did ground penetrating radar in early 2000s, found those tunnels. They rejected his work. He had a priest that witnessed those tunnels, has been down in them. He was rejected out of hand. But that's okay because 25 years later, we found it.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Well, thanks. I appreciate that, Joey. I'm very passionate about this stuff. So I'm glad that people are taking notice and that I'm sitting here talking to you right now about it. It's crazy to me.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
I promise they didn't steal or sell anything in the last 100 years, that the world knew that these things existed. Rich people were going down there and throwing money around, and there was zero safeguards. So to circle back to the UFOs, the aliens there, it's like I have a real problem with that shit in Peru because I can't – It's just so tainted. It's so corrupt.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
The thing about them that looks the fakest is just a photograph of the bodies themselves. Everything else looks fucking pretty legit.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
And we know, I mean, like, we know that humans existed with a bunch of other hominids on this planet for a long time, so it wouldn't be, like, for us to discover a new species, even if they weren't aliens, wouldn't be crazy.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
We're not – you could say, well, why did we – some people would think at that point, why did we make it and the ones that were better not, if that's the case. But we're not in direct competition with each other to survive necessarily. It's also with Mother Nature and all these other things. And so, like, you just – wrong place, wrong time. Species gets wiped out. Sorry.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Scrap that. Scrap that. Turns out they're aliens. We no longer want an expedition to Ethiopia. Scrap that one. We want the bodies.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
They did that with a couple of the bundles. They tried to with a couple of the bundles in the 50s. There was an anthropologist that opened up two of them on video. And when I was researching for my video, I found that those... movie reels are lost. Nobody knows where they went. They just disappeared. Big fucking shock. There's a newspaper article that recorded what she found in one of them.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
That newspaper article is not in their archives. It just stinks. It just stinks. It's like I am not... I'm not a conspiratorial type of person, but I'm not stupid either.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
She was just talking about what she found inside of one of those mummy bundles with the elongated skulls and the artifacts that would be in it, the grave goods and stuff.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
no it there's uh the the kind of nuanced argument is that some of them were legitimate aliens or other species or whatever and then some of them were people trying to emulate that with their their own kids right like that it was a status symbol to have that elongated head and some people try to fake it and pretend
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Have you seen that? No, I haven't. That's crazy. Yeah.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Yeah, and if it offered any sort of advantage at all. You know, and you might think, well, how could that be? It's, you know, obviously a problem. But if it offered any sort of advantage, like the, you know, the Galapagos Islands, right? The iguanas there that go down and swim in the water and eat moss off the bottom. Y'all got webbed feet. So it...
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It stands to reason to me that whatever happened that isolated Galapagos and made it a shitty place to try to find food for an iguana, you got one of these iguanas, it's a little mutant McNugget running around and he's got webbed toes already. And he's like, fuck, man, nobody wants to hang out with me because I look all weird.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
But then this happens and all of a sudden he's the only guy that can consistently get food. It's, you know, that kind of... disadvantage turns advantage overnight kind of thing.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It's weird, but it's crazy. Like... how ubiquitous those things can be. Like, you know, Madagascar and the lemurs? Lemurs basically, like, have all these evolutionary niches in Madagascar filled in. Like, instead of a woodpecker, there's a lemur with a big-ass fucking finger, and he tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. Really? Yeah, you can look that guy up if you want, Jimmy. Whoa.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Madagascar's got almost every major evolutionary niche is filled by a lemur. Really? Yeah, it's a fucking lemur island, man. It's just like the different kind of lemurs on Madagascar all over the place. It's not every single one, but like woodpeckers. There's no fucking woodpeckers there. The insect-eating birds are not birds. They're lemurs. Whoa. The whole island is... That's it.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Yeah, evolution's crazy that way. And it's like... Whoa, look at that little fucker. You get a great example of, like... Like, you probably heard them say that, like, the dinosaurs get wiped out and allowed mammals the opportunity to take over the planet. Like, otherwise mammals would have just been a bunch of shrews running around in the grass. Right.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
And that exact kind of thing, it's like that lemur ain't going to out-compete woodpeckers, but he don't have to. So he gets to take off and do his thing. Because there are no woodpeckers there. Yeah. So something fills that niche. Exactly. So it's that same kind of thing. We get to see it in, you know, you were talking about the, what's the name of that deer thing you were talking about?
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#2267 - Dan Richards
The duiker. Duiker. Duiker. It's an antelope, yeah. Antelope, yes. To become an underwater meat eater, that's quite a jump. But there's probably not many alligators down there doing that exact same job. I mean, not many things taking its spot. Otherwise, it wouldn't have been able to find a niche there. There wouldn't have been no food.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
That's so insane. It's like the mountains that they have in South America where they've got basically it's like the same as an island where it's like nothing can go down from a certain elevation. So like there's a bunch of things that live up in the mountains that are basically evolutionary isolated and have been for 10,000, 20,000 years.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
And so you get a bunch of goofy species that are only next mountain over there a little bit different, next mountain over there a little bit different, same as the finches that Darwin was chasing around in the early days. Pretty interesting stuff. I can nerd out on all that shit for a long time.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
The theory that a lot of people have is that it's a weapon, that like in the Bible it's described like shooting lightning and things like that.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
And what Graham mentions in the book, it's an interesting point, is the Bible records Moses going up to Mount Sinai, coming down with the Ten Commandments, getting mad at the Israelites worshiping a golden calf, and he breaks the Ten Commandments and then goes back up the mountain and comes back down after another week or so with the Ten Commandments again.
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And Graham points out that this could be a memory of him going up and getting the wrong stone and then, damn it, smashes it, goes back and finds the right stone that he's looking for that it had the proper, you know, uranium rich or whatever speculative radiation stuff. So, but inside of the box, a popular theory is, you know, if you've got metal, wood, metal, like a transformer.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Yeah. And she missed out, man. She could have sat in the same chair that Shane Gillis sat in, right? Yes. He sits in that one.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It goes back to that how you disagree with people thing. You don't have to be an asshole about it. Right.
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Maybe we actually get to where we're trying to get to, right? We're trying to figure out the other side of this. Seems kind of cut and dry, but a lot of people miss that. The ego's a powerful fucking thing, man.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
And so the popular theory is it's a way to generate electricity. And it would also describe like the way that guys in the Bible are, if they touch it, they have to carry it with sticks. And if they touch it, even to steady it, they get killed and stuff. But I honestly, I don't see it being a transformer. That wood, metal or metal, wood, metal thing has to be stacked.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of a no-brainer thing. It's kind of a no-brainer. What they do, this is where Flint is especially insidious. You know, I got along well with Flint and a bunch of other archaeologists for a long time. But I made a video that went into the details of how Ignatius Donnelly was not the guy who founded modern-day Atlantis hunting.
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And he did believe in some kind of Aryan first things. He believed that other races weren't capable of innovating. Yeah, but that's just one douchebag. He was popular. But the thing is, people that came before, they tried to make it out like...
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Ignatius Donnery and the guys that came before him both believed the Maya were the founding... One of them believed the Maya fucking whooped the ass all the way over into Indian shit. He believed that the Maya were the Egyptians. What? Yeah. Augustus Le Plignon is the one that believed the Maya whooped ass all over the world. And the other one was...
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#2267 - Dan Richards
This is his— It's just a wacky idea? Well, Charles Atin de Pazia de Bogbo. These are the two guys that—they were the first ones to find, like, that Chakmul statue with the weird and the heart and the plate. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it looks Egyptian. They were the ones that started seeing—they're the first ones to see the similarities between these things.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
And so they believed that, you know, ancient Egypt is this technologically superior place. And here we've seen the same thing here with similar iconography. So, I made a video explaining that the letter that the Society for American Archaeology wrote to Netflix to call Graham Hancock a racist, basically, not call him a racist, fuck you guys, is... It was wrong. It was erroneous.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
You're not just getting it with one layer like the Bible describes. But it's an interesting thing. When you say it has to be stacked, you mean spaced in between each layer? Yeah, like if you've ever seen a doorbell transformer?
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It contained false information. And I pointed that out. And eventually, Flint addressed it. And his argument was, well, it doesn't really matter. It's not a big deal. We use the word comet. And Graham talks about a comet. And this other guy didn't. And it doesn't really matter because so many white supremacists believe this shit anyway.
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And it was just like – at that point, I was kind of like, okay, this isn't science anymore. And then I watched him – Do that waffling bullshit here where he did it when you were pushing him on it. And he's like, no, I didn't say that. Well, yeah, I said that. Well, no, I didn't say that. I was just like, all right, dude, I'm going to drag you for this.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Okay, transformers at the bottom of it will have multiple plates. It'll be like a plate of metal and then a plate of silicone or something like that that's conductive, non-conductive, conductive, non-conductive. And there'll be multiples of those. And this is part of the electromagnetic system.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Yes, I actually had that one pre-ordered from Hastings because I'd read the sign in the seal. So I was already like, Graham Hancock's pretty cool. I like the way he's coming at these things. And I saw that there was a thing at Hastings to pre-order Fingerprints of the Gods for like $25 or something. You get like $3 off. And so I did.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Help me out. Yeah. It's always – basically, no matter what, they're always going to find a way to not just dismiss it. They're going to poo-poo it. They're going to – that's not an underwater moment. That doesn't look like a tool to me. It's just this poo-poo attitude that really – it does them a huge disservice because –
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Ultimately, the most interested amateurs on the planet would be us, pyramid idiots, guys that are into that kind of goofy shit. We're the most interested. Just like Carl Sagan knew his audience, the most interested people in space were the UFO crowd. The most interested people in archaeology are not archaeology students. That's their 9 to 5.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
I'm the one that's reading the shit at 2 o'clock in the morning with the beer in my hand. I love the shit. But I don't want to – you're going to bore me if you talk about stratigraphy. We're going to want a story.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
The mystery. Yeah, to dig into it. So when they literally deliberately piss on the mystery, it's just like, oh, there's nothing to see here. Nothing to see here. Nothing to see here. Let me tell you about stratigraphy. Nothing to see here. That's why I talk about Carl Sagan all the time. He might have laughed in their face even with Chuck, but he'd never tell them there's nothing to see here.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
You know? It's true. I get what you're saying. A lot of people like to blame things for – say that drugs are all just bad, but I forget the dude's name. Like, was the guy that discerned the DNA, like the human DNA. Francis Crick. Yeah.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Did it well on LSD. Yeah. Like, cracked the code on LSD or whatever. I mean, that shit's, you know, it's part of our brains, man. It's there. And as a tribe. I think there's some controversy about the Francis Crick thing, though, right?
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Because what a transformer does is it steps electricity up or down and swaps voltage for amperage, basically. So the metal plates are part of it. So the idea is that this thing would collect electricity inside the box, and then the Israelites would use it to throw lightning at the enemies. Now, there's still a lot of speculation as to how the box would work, but...
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#2267 - Dan Richards
There it is. Change your computer to Russian script first.
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Moses was also said to, after going up and seeing God, he was said to have had to cover his face with a cloth for the rest of his life because it was shown. And Graham speculated in that book that it might be because of radiation sickness or something. His face was covered in sores for the rest of his life. So it is interesting.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Yeah. One of the things with COVID that always tickles me on that is the way that they threw the – to me, I feel like they threw the red herring of a mask at us. I feel like the mask was a bullfighter's cape. I feel like you've only got so many hours in a day. You've got to pick your battles, and you've got the mask as an easy symbol. Everybody can complain about it because it affects everybody.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It's an easy touchstone. You can see it. But while everybody's fighting that, it really is effectively you just have to fucking wear a hat for a few months or a few years. They're closing down our stores and taking the kid. I've got two more years of wrestling. Yeah, fuck you. You're never going to make state. Fuck you.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
I think that might be part of why Kamala was so worried about the unedited thing. You know, when Hillary fainted a few election cycles ago, that video would have never made the news in the 90s. They just got bought. Right. But fucking before they nobody knew it existed before it was posted. It was just like the dude and bam. And now the Internet has it as too fucking late.
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But what I'm getting at is that I think that that's especially for an older politician, somebody like Biden. How many decades of his life was he able to buy any video footage that was going to cause him any problems? He just fucking squashed that. two or three, and now it's like nothing. You slip and fall. You're going viral, buddy. There's nothing you can do about it.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
is radioactive like how would that conduct electricity no idea it would probably be if it was it it maybe it's the power source like we have radioactive batteries on satellites and shit right and they convert that radiation into electricity so it's possible I mean that's I'm you know I'm not really too
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#2267 - Dan Richards
After he fell the third time, why did they let him keep doing that? Maybe some of Gerald Ford's family was hoping he'd break the record.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
That probably has a lot to do with it. I mentioned before like they closed that White Elephant store. But like they closed so many bars in the town. Like I was thrilled that my favorite bar, Mootsie's, is still around. But it had a closed sign on it when apparently the plumbing above it leaked. And I thought they were gone too because it was closed down for them to fix that in the middle of COVID.
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And it was just like, God damn it. We lost so many things in that town that were just little mom and pop outfits. And just comes in and gets replaced with Target. And you come to a city like this and you still got little shops that do well, little cafes and whatnot. But I live out in...
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#2267 - Dan Richards
like big on the ancient high technology, but I'm always willing to speculate and look at the angles on it. And that's basically where they come from, the guys that are really big into the arc. Some guys even will claim that it's a capacitor. like a full-on capacitor, which a capacitor stores and discharges electricity.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Or two, yeah. Or two, yeah. Yes, it's pretty wild. The things that were lost during COVID were, in my mind, one of the biggest things was the trust in the scientific community that they're being honest. And again, I like science. I like science a lot. And I don't...
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#2267 - Dan Richards
I think that just like most activists and most anything, like when you look online and you see a transgender person is making a complete ass of themselves, that's generally speaking not indicative of the way transgender people are, even on the fucking Internet, man. Otherwise, you wouldn't be seeing that person. Right.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
but uh with everything with everything with cops with teachers with and we see some crazy teachers saying nutty things in front of the class that's a small percentage a tiny yeah it's a problem it's a problem but it's not all teachers no but when but when it's science the the deal is is that science fact checks itself like these guys all throw rocks at each other they write a paper and other guys are trying to rip it apart and prove them wrong and okay
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#2267 - Dan Richards
So in that environment, it requires an acceptance for this kind of shit to fly. For them to be able to repeatedly lie in peer-reviewed journals requires their peers to not review the fucking papers. That's really the only way that can happen. And that happens so much. Like it's –
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Tom Dillehay was the guy who... Explain the whole thing to people so they don't know it. Absolutely. Clovis First is the theory that the first people in the Americas came over the Bering Land Bridge like 14,000, 15,000 years ago, and they used the Clovis points, and this was the first American humans. Before that, there was no people here.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Now, they started finding sites 30,000 years old, 25,000 years old, and they started fucking with that narrative, and archaeologists were... for the most part, pushing heavily against it. There were a few scientists that would make the finds and that they would fight for them. Now, one, eventually it's been overturned. Now that Clovis first is not the narrative anymore.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
They're not really sure exactly who got here first. They know the Bering land bridge was part of it, but they also think there was some people from the, probably from the ocean in South America. And who knows for sure it's up in the air. They're not so certain anymore, but the Clovis first debate is,
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It was so bad that the guy that won it, basically, a site in Chile called Monte Verde was the site that eventually he had a bunch of people there. They looked at the site and when they left, they were convinced that that was the end of the debate for all intents and purposes. There's still a few holdouts.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It's why we were told not to, when you don't touch the tube on your TV when we were kids, because it'll zap you, the capacitor. We're old. We remember tubes on TVs. I watched a friend of mine working on an arcade machine once, and one of the leads popped off of the thing, and he was bald, and it tapped him on the top, and it fucking laid his ass right out, bam, straight to the ground.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Right in there. Yeah. The guy that discovered that site and was excavating it, Tom Dillehay, was living in Chile under the time that Pinochet was in charge of Chile. One of his colleagues, and there's video of this. I use this clip frequently. One of his colleagues called the state newspaper and said Monteverde is a CIA-planted site in order to get him down into Chile. His wife and kids are there.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
They fucking threatened his life. This is the archaeologist's version of SWATing. Whoa. Yeah. The video's all over the place. I use this clip frequently. They basically threatened his life straight up. He got letters to people saying that he wasn't a real scientist, that he didn't have a degree.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
If you had to go on Google, Tom Dillehay... interview we'll probably do it uh d-i-l-l-e-h-a-y um sorry i should have i should have had that one pegged because i use this clip i probably use it 10 times um uh it's not one of those um uh maybe put our archaeology with it because he's talking to another archaeologist um
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Challenging clothes first here will archaeologist threatened archaeologists threatened one of their own over Clovis first is that oh, it's it's on a There's me that doubt yeah, that would actually have okay play that go ahead Archaeologist Tom Dillehay was instrumental in overturning Clovis first with his excavations at Monte Verde but this cost him to have his life threatened by his own colleagues and
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#2267 - Dan Richards
His excavations were done in Chile during the reign of the ruthless dictator Pinochet. Clovis I was hotly debated amongst archaeologists at the time, and one of them decided to use Pinochet as a means to silence Tom.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
And they'll try to pretend, Flint tried to pretend that that was no big deal. That was a one-off. You know, scientific debates happen, and a lot of guys will say, oh, yeah, that Clovis first, it was bad. But we don't usually do that. Before Clovis first, there was the Folsom first debate, the idea that the Folsom people were the first ones here.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
I was like, oh, shit. You okay, man? Wow. But anyway, yeah, that's what a capacitor is. So some guys believe, like Billy Carson would say, that the Ark of the Covenant would fit inside of the sarcophagus of the King's Chamber, which it doesn't, and that it's a capacitor to power the pyramid. So it doesn't – how do you know that it doesn't?
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And if you found anything older than, I think, 7,000 years or 3,000 years, whatever it was, it was bad. Anything older than a Folsom culture thing, it was bullshit, and you couldn't have a feel. It's on Wikipedia still. You could read about there's a couple of guys that basically formed a guard and didn't let anything get past that point until eventually the Clovis first thing.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It's not the first time. This is standard operating procedure. Create a paradigm, defend it with life and death. There's a guy named... Max Planck, he was a Nobel Prize winning physicist, and he has Planck's Principle, it's known as, and it is science does not progress one discovery at a time, it progresses one funeral at a time.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
And this is a Nobel Prize winning physicist that said that, not Graham Hancock. So it's fucking pretty hefty to think about that. People are people, man. Put us on the moon, you're going to have people on the moon.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
But that's where – it does frustrate me because if you take that job, it's like, OK. Anytime – if me and you get in a fight, it's going to be – it's aggressive and you get worked up and you get emotional. But if you become a cop – I expect you to fucking know that and roll that shit back. Right. And it's the same thing with the scientist. I expect you to recognize that and roll that shit back.
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And quite frequently these people are, like I was saying earlier, a little emotionally off, a little socially weird.
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By the way, when I drew the parallel about us fighting, I don't want a picture of me next to Shane Gillis. Thank you very much. I'm good. Don't need that.
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Well, the Bible has the specifications for the size of the Ark of the Covenant, and they're not the same as – How different are they? Considerably.
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Quit trying to find a clear answer and keep investigating.
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Well, they recently – you know who Thor Heyerdahl was, the guy that did like the Contiki voyage to prove that you could cross the ocean in a raft and all that shit? Okay.
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He's an archaeologist, and now he pointed out that on Easter Island that the platform that the biggest, oldest, whatever, Moai or whatever they're called – That platform, the polygonal masonry strongly resembled what he saw in Peru to the point where he hypothesized that these were connected. And this was just mocked by archaeologists for the longest time.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Now, not only do they have genetic evidence in the form of human DNA with a solid genetic drift from South America heading out into Polynesia as well, but... Easter Island has breadfruit, has ginger, and a couple of sweet potato. It's got food from both Asia and South America and the oldest habited layers that they've found. Really? And that's scientifically.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
The Ark is larger. Oh, it's larger than – Oh, really? On the inside of the sarcophagus.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
And what is the oldest inhabited layers? It's like, I want to say like 1,200 or 1,800 years ago. It's not real, real old, but it's old enough that like the oldest place that they've excavated and found that the first people, it looks like the first people that showed up there came there from Asia and South America already. They've been connected to both.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It's one of the things that every time I look into it, the data is kind of threadbare. And as a skeptical guy and a guy who's had his share of time in bars and bathrooms, I'd They have a much stronger feeling that there was some anthropologist in the 70s who was just doing a fucking bump. I'm sorry.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Smoking a cigarette and doing a bump on the sarcophagus is way more likely than—that's just to me, but I could be wrong.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Fuck, there's already people with their AI fucking artwork out trying to make this. Oh, for sure.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Well, yeah. And then the next line actually basically says what I just did. After these experiments, even assuming that cocaine was actually found on the mummies, it is possible that this could be contamination.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
I was reading it cover to cover when I had Graham sign it, and him and Santa both were just looking at how beat the hell it is, right? Because they'd been in a construction truck where we'd go on job sites for like 20 years.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Well, this would be – I mean, this was supposed – the Ark was supposed to have been brought there by Sheba – the queen of Sheba's son, Menelik. So you're talking thousands of years, right?
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#2267 - Dan Richards
And I know that the ancient Egyptians would measure time during the evening hours with water clocks like that. They would have people tasked with keeping time for the area.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Wow. What Dr. Martin Swetman thinks is those three handbags there are... um three of the cardinal points like uh two equinoxes and one solstice i think and then the condor down there holding the the sun is what he believes he believes that's sagittarius and that it's uh basically denoting um
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#2267 - Dan Richards
That the fourth cardinal point of the year and that all those other marks add up to the squares are a month, the Vs are days, and at the end of it, according to his interpretation, it's what he thinks of as a recording of the time that the asteroid hit, the Younger Dryas impact. Whoa. And he's wrote two scientific papers on it. He's come under a lot of fire for it. Shocker.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
The majority of the fire is really funny. It's like... Okay, he's a chemical engineer. So he's a mathematician by trade. He's a number cruncher. And so the first thing everybody says, ah, he's not an archaeologist. He's got a fucking number cruncher in here. It's like the field of archaeoastronomy, as it's called, was first officially recognized because of the work of a guy named Alexander Tom.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
He's the one that was like plotting out a bunch of shit in England and whatnot, right? Yeah. and seeing that this lines up with that. It looks like the ancients would stand here to look there. He predicted that they would find a viewing platform, and it was at a certain site. He's like, they stood up on the side of that hill. I'll bet you find a platform there.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
They found that platform, and now he's starting to do some science here. He's making predictions, and they're coming true. This guy was an engineer, not a chemical engineer. He was a construction engineer, but he had fuck all to do with archaeology. This is very common.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Yeah, maybe I was wrong about that. Except for the handles. I do know that the measurements are off drastically. It's not just an inch or two. It's enough that you're not sliding one in the other.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
If you look at the teams that make up archaeoastronomy expeditions, it's usually an astronomer, an archaeologist, and then somebody who's just a math.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
whiz he's really really he's way above the pay grade on either one of these guys when it comes to number crunch and that's generally speaking the teams that make these things up so when they go beating at this guy right that betrays they don't even know what this fucking field and it's of course these are all scientists and historians by and large that are doing that so it's really hilarious it's like you guys are
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#2267 - Dan Richards
You don't even look. You don't even open the goddamn book. One of them famously or infamously to me, because I drag him for it frequently, said, if it looks like a duck, if it walks like a duck, well, I hope you understand. And it's like, well, I understand between us talking, but I do not fucking understand that for a scientist. Fuck you on that.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
If your job is to test chemicals to figure out which one does what, you don't say, well, it kind of looks like this one, so I'll skip it. You fucking test each one. Same thing here. A hypothesis comes at you. You don't get to be like, well, it kind of resembles the one that that one kook came up with. We'll reject it. You test it. Or you don't call it science.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Yeah, some of the tree footage that I've seen is just abhorrent. And aren't the trees a protected species of tree?
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Well, the guy that did it, he owns the site, right? And then they find it, and now he's trying to sell it. Or not trying to sell it, excuse me. The government comes like 10 years later and tells them that they're going to buy it. And it's just like if you're – like if the government is going to build a highway, it doesn't matter how much you paid for your home.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It doesn't matter what you got on your property. They're going to come and look at it and they have an equation for them and that's all that matters. The swimming pool is not on that form. Fucking swimming pool doesn't get paid for. Well, on this farmland, adding olive trees made that an orchard instead of basically arid farmland. Made it more valuable. Made it more valuable. But –
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#2267 - Dan Richards
What's funny about this is like we talk about the arguments against this stuff and how stupid it is. OK. Jim points out that these trees are a problem. And since it's Jim and Jim is fucking public enemy number one to archaeologists, but I'm coming to get you, Jim. It's going to be my spot soon. But anyway, since Jim is fucking hated by these guys, it doesn't matter.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
There is tons of documentation on the problems with having tree roots above a site, all the way from contamination for different microbes to, they use a certain species of snail in Europe to determine certain dates, and tree roots that punch right through that shit introduce that snail to places it shouldn't be, right?
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Tree roots will, if one of those enclosures at Gobekli Tepe is filled with water or had a well in it, all those roots are screaming down that thing and just blowing it to shit. It's gone. So there's a number of things archaeologists, everything I just told you, that's shit archaeologists say. I learned all that from reading papers about the problem that tree roots can cause to archaeological sites.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Because everybody knows they cause, at least all the construction guys know they cause problems with foundations. But they don't care. They'll argue all day, oh, those tree roots aren't so bad. That's a protective. It's not such a big deal. It's all because Jim mentioned it. Had Flint mentioned it first, they would be all up in arms about taking care of those trees.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It's so clearly Red Rover, Red Rover. It's all about teams. It's just stupid. It's a point where it's reprehensible at times, to be honest with you.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It blasted that on its ear. Like you were saying earlier, I remember – it drives me nuts because I can't find the clip. But I remember seeing it years ago of Graham talking to somebody and the guy saying, show me the civilization.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It does look like it would. But, yeah, if you look up the measurements, I wish – I don't have them off the top of my head.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Then they find it. But back in those days, the standard operating model for humans becoming from hunter-gatherers to civilization was you had to start farming and then you created a surplus of food. And once you had enough of a surplus of food for long enough, you started to have these ruling classes emerge. You get your astronomers and your priests and your shamans and everything.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
All these guys don't want to work, and so pretty soon you get these cities going and shit. But this can only happen when we have a huge surplus of food because that's obviously just wasted labor. Well, Gobekli Tepe really threw that on its ear because there ain't no goddamn farming right then. There's the beginnings of it. There ain't no surplus of food there.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
There's no surplus of human-created food. You might be finding lots of animal bones and shit, but it wasn't like they grew a bunch of food. So it completely destroyed that entire narrative. And that's the part that because it's a Graham Hancock site, they're slow to really admit that. But go buy a book from the 90s and read about how humans progressed.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Buy an anthropology book and you'll see it very clear that they completely had to rewrite shit because of Gobekli Tepe.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
But, yeah, they are – Look at that. The King's Chamber – yeah, the sarcophagus in the King's Chamber and the Ark of the Covenant are –
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#2267 - Dan Richards
That one's wild. That's wild. That's one thing it's been pushed back on a lot, but it does look like – there's papers published both ways, but it does look like – last I saw, it does look like the consensus is it was buried. What's the pushback?
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#2267 - Dan Richards
The sides of the hill would, like, collapse into the thing, and so that they would just eventually just kind of push some more of it in there and just level it out so they could use the area because it was a bunch of holes in the ground. You couldn't walk your donkeys over or anything.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
There's a lot of areas around that you can walk your donkeys. Yeah.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It's not like the whole area. Yeah, I agree. I think that Gobekli Tepe, like any of those, I don't think. I'm well aware. Just like the – because Jimmy's involved with it. Anything Graham Hancock touches, those guys, they're going to poo-poo it. They're just going to dismiss it. Right. And it's sad because like he is – Them hitting him with the racist thing in particular, that's good.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
You know Graham. That hits him. That fucking hurts him. He's very sensitive. And that kind of shit, man, there are people that are Atlantis hunters today. There's the guy Robert Zafir. I hate to say his name even, but I will because he needs to be put on blast a bit. This guy is – he's an Atlantis bro. He thinks that the DNA story that we've been told out of Africa is wrong. Okay, fine. Whatever.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Where the rubber hits the road is when he starts saying – he'll show like pictures of like old school anthropological models of proto-humans that are real dark skin and big hair coming out and looking half monkey, half man. And then he'll say there's no way that this could come from the same stock and then show like a little six-year-old Danish girl with perfect fucking big blue eyes.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
And this is this kind of constant digs at – Africans, not out of Africa, but in Africa. All these different species bred with different hominids, and these guys bred with the stupid ones, and these other guys bred with smart ones, and these guys bred with strong ones. It's very... It's racist.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
For lack of a better term, it might not even be what you would consider white supremacist, but it's definitely – when you're done with – if you were to take everything he said and accept it, you would walk away thinking that different groups of humans are clearly better than each other genetically, fucking hands down, and you can judge it based on skin. So that is racist, right?
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#2267 - Dan Richards
What does that have to do with Atlantis? Well, he believes that Atlantis was like the people that spread the ideas around and stuff. Kind of the same stuff I was saying earlier about that Ignatius Donnelly guy. Oh, okay. So he is what you would think. He's got 300,000 subscribers or so on YouTube. He's not a nobody.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
So you would think he's the guy that these guys would be poking at for being a fucking racist. But they don't. And there's a real big reason why they almost never do. There's like two people with any following at all that have letters next to their name that have taken shots at this guy on YouTube. And the reason is... It's – he is what they actually claim Graham is.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
So it's like if you have somebody that's complaining about a trans activist, the one that's screaming, call me ma'am, that's what they're trying to say Graham is. But actually that's what Robert is and Graham just would be standing there being like, hey, how's it going?
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Well, they give him attention. They talk about him. They do. Like I said, I didn't even want to mention his name. And I know I'm going to get people yelling at me about saying that. But the stuff that he puts out is very clearly... Again, if you take it all on board, you would be a racist. If you were to just accept it all, you'd be like, well, that guy's black. He's just not as smart as me. Sorry.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Fuck, there's a clip for you, Flint. Have fun with that.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
I'm having trouble. Ossol... Ocolium? Something like that. Yeah, something like that.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Zinc and copper and silver, I think. It was like zinc and... Mostly zinc and copper. Maybe it was a tiny bit of silver. It might have just been zinc and copper.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
And it was written about before, too. Like... Like, it wasn't just written about with Atlantis. Like, they'd written about it. It was metal that the Greeks used. It was basically from one little mountain region.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
That's wrong. No, but if they've been hiding it forever and it's a religious— and they're like the keepers of it or whatever.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Yeah. Well, they think that it might be an alloy that was found, but that it was like a naturally occurring copper that way. They're not 100%, I believe. But you can make it? We could, yes. As an alloy? We could, yes. And what's interesting is it does talk about that in Atlantis.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It was considered beautiful like gold, but cheaper and easier to get.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
They said that the temple walls in Atlantis were supposed to have been covered with that stuff.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
But that's where – myself, and I know this – I think that there's a really good chance that a lot of the evidence that we have, a lot of the written records, the myths and stuff of Atlantis, I think a lot of that's going to have a cultural infusion so heavy into it that a lot of the details will get lost and you could almost just be like there was a civilization that was more advanced than the people that wrote about them and that's almost all you could take away sometimes.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Like the Greeks – Atlantis happened to be a democratic society. Well, no shit. The Greeks, they valued that democracy. It was something they were real proud of. So, of course, this great place was democratic. And, of course, they had the same – that rich-ass metal, how the fuck can they cover their temples in that shit, bro? To me, it seemed – you know what I mean?
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#2267 - Dan Richards
It's just like – a lot of people say that the whole thing – that Plato just used Atlantis as an allegory or a myth. What is this, Jamie?
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#2267 - Dan Richards
That thing's crazy. That thing's insane. That thing is insane. It shows some serious thinking going on, serious planning. As I've said numerous times, I think that if it didn't look so clunky when they found it, I don't think that we'd have it. I think it ended up on some rich guy's shelf because it's way too fucking cool.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
But they looked at it and they're just like, yeah, there's like a mass of metal with like some gear frozen to it. I don't know. It's all corroded shit. And then they bring it up and hand it off. Oh, fuck me. Look what we got here. Because, yeah, I mean, that looks kind of cool, but it doesn't look nearly as... It just looks like a wheel. And it was found next to a bunch of statues, right?
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#2267 - Dan Richards
So it was stuff of real value as far as they were concerned.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Yeah, basically. You know that thing at school where you would... Oh, I thought it was how they traveled. No.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Right. You know those things in high school or college where you turn a crank and the sun and all the planets go around it, right?
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Oh, man, there's so much. There's so much about the pyramids in general that are just so hard to even – Like I'd mentioned a little bit last time we talked, the squaring of it is so, it's like 756 feet long and there's like two to three inch variation at the most. So you're talking like thousandths of a percent on this massive thing.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Well, yeah, there's... Stuff I haven't researched for a long time, but I remember... Oh, that's what it looks like when it's separated. Yeah, this is someone making a planetary thing.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Yeah, like I was saying, it's effectively... That's the same kind of thing, basically.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
All those little... Well, no, it's just... Those are based on it or... DNA cancer mechanism was way before that, right? Yeah. What year was this supposedly? I want to say like 1500 B.C. or something. But I might be way off on that.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Right. That's absolutely right. It's yeah, we don't we don't we don't have fuck all for shipwrecks way back in those days. And those ships that are preserved from even close to like 10,000 years ago aren't ships at all. Fucking canoes that are found in bogs and places. Right. If it's in the ocean, it's not. It's Swiss cheese after a few a few thousand years. You can have nothing left. Yeah.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
One of the things that really is sad about that whole deal is it's. You know, there was a potential for a real good discussion to be had there. Flint does know a lot about archaeology, and he could have sat down with Graham and had a good conversation about this stuff. But in order to do that, he would have had to have not construed it as a debate in his mind.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
I mean, clearly it was still going to get labeled as such, but... By making a debate in his head, it's like – You have to win. You have to win. And so you have to sew shut holes that can't be sewn shut. If we're talking about – like that. There's shipwrecks. Oh, well, you've got to make sure that there's no shipwrecks.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
You've got to make sure that there's no place for him to speculate whatsoever because – and that's just like – dude. So you end up with – Right, because he's still right in one way, right?
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#2267 - Dan Richards
No, there is no evidence of a 10,000-year-old shipwreck. That's true. Absolutely.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Thank you. I'll tell you something that's kind of painful and hilarious but sad about this. You know, they're closing the anthropology department at the university Flint teaches at right now. They're closing down other anthropology departments and archaeology departments across the world right now, across the country. I just posted one a couple days ago.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
And if you just stretch a rope from one end of this table to the other and hold it tight, it's going to sag a little. You're 756 feet, you're not getting a two inch accurate measurement at that. With a rope. With a rope. You have to use something different. Yeah.
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#2267 - Dan Richards
Flint was sitting here with Graham talking to you, and there was the opportunity for him to say, we do need to do more investigation, Graham. I completely agree with you, which is why I think we need to get some people out there to do some underwater archaeology. Where do you think, Graham? He could be drumming up fucking business.