Dan Rather
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48 Hours
A Deadly Family Secret
I'm Dan Rather. He was a proud father of three, married to the same woman for 30 years. But when Bob Dorotek suddenly disappeared, the trail of suspicion led right back home. 48 hours, right now.
48 Hours
A Deadly Family Secret
This is the family that appeared to be living in harmony until one day, more than a year ago, when the usual peace and quiet was shattered. setting off a chain of events that would leave a family torn apart. Erin Moriarty investigates by following a trail no one expected to travel.
48 Hours
A Deadly Family Secret
More than a year after Bob Dorotek was murdered, his body dumped by a mountain road near San Diego, his widow Jane faces trial. Although she firmly denies any involvement in the crime, there is troubling evidence to overcome, especially blood evidence taken from the master bedroom of the couple's hillside home.
48 Hours
A Deadly Family Secret
She's been in prison nearly six months, unable to raise the unusually high bail in the case, $3 million. And Jane Dorotek's lawyers are weighing a risky strategy, one that seems certain to fan the flames of animosity in a family whose better days are but a flickering memory. Here again is Erin Moriarty.
48 Hours
A Deadly Family Secret
The ties that bind families together are so basic to our lives, it's easy, too easy, to take them for granted. That is, until they're gone. Nearly all families have their share of secrets, mysteries. But sometimes the burden of keeping those secrets can be so great even the closest of family ties can start to unravel. So it is with one family whose mystery involves murder.
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Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)
It's been many, many years since we first had you on.
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Rebecca Lemov (on brainwashing)
Right. That you're closest to. Yeah.
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Jesse Eisenberg
Now watch out for those zombies with this new rake.
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Jesse Eisenberg
I was told to stop saying it for exactly that reason.
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Armchair Anonymous: Nurses II
Wondery Plus subscribers can listen to Armchair Expert early and ad-free right now. Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts, or you can listen for free wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Anonymous. I'm Dan Rather, and I'm joined by the Duchess.
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And is it clear from the imaging what the object is?
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If you had to guess how many inches beyond the anus it was, could you guess?
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He really had a long finger to work with.
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Oh. You kind of maybe got to fill air around it. You might have to be inflating basically as you pull it out.
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Oh, I'm going to guess. I mean, his bike is there.
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It would have to go back to get your bike. And also you just had a pretty massive procedure up there and you're going to now ride.
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I bet there'd be like a HIPAA issue. Like they couldn't call the next hospital and be like, hey, what was that? I think wouldn't that violate HIPAA somehow?
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I have an immediate guess. I think it was a bottle of conditioner. I think he was in the shower and he decided to masturbate and he thought it might feel nice to have this bottle up his butt. Now, when you think back in your mind of the image, could it have been a conditioner bottle?
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I take it all back. He was sitting on a picnic table having a nice cold... It was an accident.
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And I'm sorry to ask for this detail, but my assumption now is that the thin end was first.
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Of the soda or whatever? Yeah. No, because the cap would have had to have been on.
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I hope he figured out how to enjoy that hobby without any further complications. If someone wants to do that and that feels nice, I'm all for it.
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No, that is really a cruel detail of the story.
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Now I'm double sad because he didn't have anyone to call, but then I don't know that that's the truth either because he might have just been like, there's no way I'm calling anyone.
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Well, Lucy, this has been incredible. I kind of had fingers crossed we would get something stuck up the butt story. You read about those occasionally.
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Based on the tone of the show, I thought this might interest you.
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And from the bottom of my heart, I'm more grateful for y'all than even doctors. I think the stuff that you guys have to do is just the most impressive.
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From the bottom of my butt to the bottom of your heart.
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All right. Well, it was lovely meeting you. And again, thank you so much for the work you do.
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The depths of my heart. The deepest part.
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You're hung up on bottom because we're talking about someone's bottom.
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The rectum of the heart. That's my point is we're talking about bottoms right now, like butt bottoms.
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Probably. Or Abraham Lincoln. I'm never going to watch that doc.
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How are you guys? So good. Do you want to use a code name? Let's go with the name Evan.
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Yeah, and I like the name Evan. Do you have a best friend named Evan or something? I don't.
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Oh, okay. So, Evan, where are you in the country? You can be as vague as you'd like. I'm just curious. I'm in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
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Now, were you on the hunt for Monica so you could explore something romantic with her? No, I'm actually gay. Oh, okay.
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Okay, so you are a nurse, I presume? I'm an emergency room nurse. For how long?
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Okay, so you have a juicy story. I'm sure you've got many, but you have pared it down to this one.
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And is protocol to kind of, for lack of a better word, anesthetize them? Do you want to get them on some kind of benzo to calm everyone down?
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This is the worst kind of bomb threat, I'm going to say.
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Evan, have you spent any time trying to get into the mind of why that would be satisfying? I can generally find my way into understanding people's motives, but I don't even understand what the pleasure of that is. Other than if I just had this total ire for government and I wanted to keep fucking up municipalities, I can't really get it.
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Well, they say that about arsonists, that they often are there watching the fire.
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Yeah, you're like the Marines. My first thought as someone who's always thinking about mechanical stuff is like, well, certainly among those 50 patients, some of them have to be hooked to machines to stay alive that require electricity. Are there generators that are put out in the parking lot or are there battery supplies on these carts?
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The Sharky Sharky Duchess. Yes. We need to do these more. We need to do these as regularly as poopy your pants because nurses deliver.
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Not going to live. What? We're not going to live in LA? Or are they going to shut down hospitals?
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Okay. I'm just not sure what thing we're going to. Just do it. We're afraid to leave LA? I just don't want to go to the hospital. Okay. Okay. We're knocking on wood because L.A. has so many good hospitals.
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Armchair Anonymous: Nurses II
Oh, man, that is. Thank you, Evan, so much for sharing that story with us.
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Armchair Anonymous: Nurses II
Okay, I'm just going to ask you one simple question before we go, because the previous nurse we just spoke with said that every single nurse has a foreign object in rectum story. You don't need to tell it. Just do you have a foreign object in rectum story? I have many. Oh, well, yeah, you were in L.A. They always fall onto it.
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Shit, maybe we need our own prompt. Oh, rectal. What was it called?
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Yeah, he said foreign body. She said foreign body and you said foreign body. I just want to get the prompt right. Well, I'll submit another one.
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Okay, well, great meeting you, Evan. Thank you so much for your job.
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Keep it up. Thank you. We will. You too. All right, be well. Bye.
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I'd like to open it up to everybody. Because maybe someone will be brave enough to tell foreign body and their own rectum story. Because I want to know how you lose control of it. Because you must have a game plan. Obviously, you're only going to insert so much of it. And then you go too far. And then I guess you lose grip. Then you try to get it out and it just goes up.
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I just want you to know that I was just on a trip with eight people and all eight of us got it. So I'm with you. I'm in the noro camp.
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It gets scary when you're pregnant, right? It ups the ante a lot.
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I'm going to go out on a limb right now. You're the first of four nurses we're going to talk to. And the second I saw your face, I literally was like, oh, right. Nurses are the most fun people on the planet.
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I got to tell you, you are a second Canadian.
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Anyone that can see the shit you guys see hourly and be laughing and smiling. I mean, that's my kind of people.
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So goes the adage. Where are you at, Peyton?
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Because he doesn't know what the fuck's going on.
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But a troubled past. Is that what you wanted to say? Or a beating around the bush that the most horrific thing ever happened there. Is that palpable when you're there or have people moved on?
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Oh. Do you ever get to see the people when they return to sanity?
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Wow. Was there any point having not had any family members in it and maybe not having the correct expectations for the job? Were there moments at the beginning where you're like, oh, fuck this. I didn't choose right. Or did you immediately know it was for you?
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Yeah, you have a finite capacity and then you have a real life outside of it. And maybe you're sleep deprived and maybe you're having a marital issue and you add all these things together. It's impossible. I will say it's prepared you nicely to have a child, though.
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Yeah, Tori, I'm so sorry you're feeling so ill, but congratulations on your impending baby time. And it was great meeting you. And thank you for telling us that story.
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Feel better. Take a nice nap now. And thanks so much for railing.
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Yeah, I got a little claustrophobic at the thought of a seven-point harness.
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That happened with my dad when he had this very massive head-on collision when I was in eighth grade. And I had to go to the hospital, and they said basically go in and say goodbye. He's unconscious. I went in there, and his head was like the size of a basketball. And he woke up while I was in there. And the first thing he did is pulled the breathing tube out.
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And I was begging him, no, daddy, you need that, you need that. Oh my God, it was so stressful.
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God bless the nurses. Yeah, they're incredible. Again, round of applause. We love them. We love them. I love you. Love you. That delivered.
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Yeah. I'm going to add, I have another stereotype, not just about nurses, but I have a stereotype about Minnesotans. I would argue that Minnesotans are like Michiganders, but a little even elevated.
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They have so much Scandinavian in them, right, that they're modest by nature. They hate attention and acclaim. So it's kind of the same stock as Michigan, but they have this nice layer of humility, I'd say.
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Well, home of Prince. Any place that can claim Prince.
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Okay. I'm sure you've racked up many stories as a nurse, but you're going to hit us with one in particular.
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Oh, perfect. I just ate, this is great.
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Well, evolutionarily, it has to be the one where most repulse.
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It is. Boy, they go through it all. Heroes. Day in and day out. I love nurses so much.
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Do you guys ever put anything under your nose?
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Yeah, you did. Oh, have you tried that?
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Don't try that because I don't want you to choke.
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She really waited a while, it sounds like. She got through most of her life with this gap.
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They're just a party in their stories.
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You can see grandma's brain? No. We can see granny's brain.
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Am I right to assume that's the last thing you want infected?
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She said she likes to. She wants to make mittens happy.
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Well, they eat their face. Yeah, yeah. The cat got a little ahead of itself. I think the cat was like, Grandma's dying and dead, and I can't wait.
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Because someone needed to go in there surgically and get rid of this necrotic flesh and everything.
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And what was her spirits? She sounds very nice.
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What ended up happening to Granny? She got a room, obviously.
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Well, that's good. And would you have heard if she had passed in that upstairs room? Would they have told you? Probably. Okay. So I think all signs point to she's probably with mittens now on her lap.
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Peyton, what if you saw her boogieing down the sidewalk on all fours with the most agility you'd ever seen?
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What an experiment. I have a hunch we're going to talk to you again because I'm sure you were probably debating which story to even tell.
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That really puts a new spin on cat lady.
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Do you think that's Laura's dream in life?
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Of course. Oh, you're as cute as they come. Look at the symmetry. It's completely homogeneous.
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Is there one moment that was your favorite?
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any anonymous but we just listened to the munchausen by proxy andrea dunlop i don't have munchausen want to say oh yeah thank you for clarifying well you guys don't have a child yet no you can still have it with a partner and but it's most common for the mother to be in the medical yeah we'll let you know okay keep us updated on that well again we were going to talk to you about another nurse story but it might be like tell us about a story of inflicting munchausens on your child i'll wait for that prompt for sure
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Foreign body. We learned that all nurses have a foreign body and rectum story, which is exciting as all hell. Please enjoy Nurses Part 2. We are supported by Mint Mobile. It's time to leave your overpriced wireless plans jaw-dropping monthly bills and unexpected overages. Get huge savings with Mint Mobile. They're offering any three-month plan for only 15 bucks a month, even their unlimited plan.
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Well, delightful meeting both of you. Good luck down there in Virginia. Thank you very much. So nice to meet you. Bye. Hello. Is this Lucy?
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How you doing? Have we caught you at work?
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And if there were any doubt of the validity to your claim of being a nurse, you are currently in scrubs, which really lends to your case.
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Oh, and where are you in the country?
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OK, so I assume you have a kabillion stories you could have told. Did you have a hard time whittling it down to which one?
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Who would have thought nursing could take you as many places as like a flight attendant?
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So this would be the one you're at a dinner party and they want to hear a story. This is the one you always reel out.
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Great. Because I was going to say the times I've had to go to the doctor and talk about something I just really don't want to talk about. I have decided I'm willing to tell this one person. In your mind, you've committed to that. And then you get there and you start realizing, no, I'm going to have to tell many people. And I hate that. Is that common?
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Where like they don't really want to tell you because they've already decided only one person shall ever know this.
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