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The Viall Files

E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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No, I know. And this is this is helpful because this is what I was leaning towards. And the controversy among my friends was, should I move the goalposts? Because I set an initial date.

The Viall Files

E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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The key is just going to be sticking to it.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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It's just not that hard.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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Oh yeah. I don't. Yeah. I mean, I don't, maybe not, probably not, but it's, I mean, it's always a possibility.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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No more stuffing. It was the best Thanksgiving ever.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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And that's going to be, I don't, that's going to be tough.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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Yeah. It'll be worth it.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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Yeah, the ball is in my court for sure.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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No shot. He is ready. No shot. I literally, Nick, I have taught him how to cook. He did not know how to do anything.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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Oh yeah. And I mean, the whole reason that he like makes it says that he doesn't want to label is because of the optics. He's like, people are going to think I moved on too fast.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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Yeah. It's not going to help.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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I will. We have a game plan.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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Will do. Thank you for your time.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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Yeah, you too. It was nice to meet you.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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Good. My name is Dakota. I'm 27 years old. And I got more than just my turkey stuffed on Thanksgiving. Did I mess up the friend group?

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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I hooked up with my roommate slash best friend's friend who just got out of an eight-year relationship with her other friend.

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They are now. We were kind of becoming a friend group.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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But not until he became single.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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One of the biggest potential problems already happened, actually. So my best friend, Jessica, she felt like she needed to tell his ex, Emily, just because they're friends. And I guess she's devastated.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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She's good friends with the ex.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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And they were broken up. They were broken up for like four months before we hooked up.

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Because she I guess they had been talking about the breakup all the time. Emily had been calling her like almost daily just to talk about the breakup for like hours on end because she was spiraling over the whole thing.

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Right. She just thought that she figured that she was going to hear from someone else. And if Jessica wasn't the one who told her, she knew that she would just not be happy about that.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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Yeah. So that happened. And then the guy, we can call him Brad, he ended up feeling the need to go and talk to Emily, his ex, about it in person for like hours.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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Lost her shit, yeah. It turned into a whole ordeal.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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How old are you again? I'm 27, they're 29. Okay. But what I didn't know at the time was happening- It's giving college. Was that Brad was still telling Emily that there was a chance they were getting back together. I did not know that.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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Everyone, including him. Now I found that out. But at the time, that was not made clear to me.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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He honestly hadn't been. They hadn't spoken in a couple months, I would say. They had both mutually agreed to block each other. So they hadn't talked in a while.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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That doesn't also mean... That he said that to her, it had been probably at least a couple weeks, if not a month, before we hooked up.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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No, I completely agree with you. And hence, I hooked up with him on Thanksgiving and the next night.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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But no, at the time, I didn't know the whole ordeal. And I also didn't anticipate all the drama that would follow. Since then, it's continued. I think my initial question for you was, should we continue doing this? And

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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So that's the current question. So it's one of those classic situationships, right? He just got out of an eight-year relationship. He's not like... Oh, they dated for eight years? Yeah.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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Yeah. And I've been single for about three years. So I am looking for, you know, something real.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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He, yeah, so he is, you know, we kind of started it out expecting it to be like a light, fun hookup after a night out type of situation. But it's turned into spending a lot of nights together, a lot of like full weekends together, going on dates, doing the whole, like I'm playing house, essentially. Okay. And that wasn't really my doing. I didn't push for it.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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He was naturally the one to be like, come over. Let's do this. Let's go out on this date. Let's spend another night together.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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So I was not upset. I was not upset with his initiatives. But at this point, it kind of feels more serious to me. He is a relationship guy. So he's not the type to just do a hookup situation in his life. So I've heard from my best friend.

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Anyway, so we've turned into this kind of situationship of sorts. But the kicker is I actually just said to him, if you don't know by mid-February if you want to put a label on this or not, then we should just go back to being friends. So I kind of gave, not necessarily an ultimatum, but like... How'd you say it? I said it in this in the sense of we don't even know what this is right now.

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You know, it was kind of when after all the drama went down, I was like, we don't know what this is. We don't really know each other that well. We'd been good friends for a couple of months, but hadn't explored a lot romantically. And I said, I know that you're

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still going through it still you know trying to get your footing as an independent person moving into a new apartment and you know having a whole new life of sorts after an eight-year relationship so let's just take some time get to know each other and by mid-february if we you know can't figure out what this is then we should just go back to being friends okay what do you say he thought that was great and your plan as to what keep playing house for now

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The issue is, obviously, like I said, this moved a lot faster than I anticipated when I set these ground rules of, you know, let's wait a few months and see. And since then, he has brought it up, like the whole label thing, a couple times. Because I was planning on dropping that, saying this is our plan, and leaving it. But he has brought it up a couple times and saying...

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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Things like, oh, I'm still not ready yet, but we're heading in the right direction.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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So here's the kicker on that one. We're going on vacation together in two weeks.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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The Bahamas. With friends. It's not just us. But we're sharing a room the whole nine yards.

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E885 Ask Nick - The Best Bangsgiving Ever

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Yeah. I mean, that's fair.