Curt Mills
Appearances
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Okay, but there's a tension here. I mean, so first, the relationship between the president of the United States and the prime minister of Israel is extremely unclear.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I don't think maybe only the two of them know. They have disagreed since at least 2020 over the election, but they probably disagreed beforehand over strikes in Iran. The last time you and I spoke publicly was over the Soleimani strike in January of 2020. And since then, reporting in the last five years has come out that the two of them disagreed over that.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Trump felt that the Israelis didn't do their part, etc., etc., etc. So for years, for at least half a decade, the well has been poisoned between Trump and Netanyahu. Doesn't mean the relationship is done. but there's been an atmosphere of mistrust.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think the key thing to understand for your listeners, anyone who's not turning this off because we're getting into the depths of Israeli politics here, but Netanyahu's situation is unstable. Yes. A super majority of Israelis want him out. They want him to resign.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
does not want to resign because if he resigns he may go to prison right and also he's been a power uh achiever for 30 years and i've noticed that people who do that often don't like to quit um i think so that's fair yeah okay so he doesn't want to quit for both reasons of his freedom and uh uh you know the way of his life yeah yes okay so pretty recognizable syndrome i would say yes yes not confined to bb it's international
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yes, it is international. Okay, so how does he not quit? It's pretty clear that spectacular circumstances justify his presence. It's very similar, actually. I mean, there's been comparisons between him and Churchill. It's actually fair. Only in wartime can someone like Netanyahu at this point get a position. I get it. But war has to go on. So what war? So they have basically a deal with Hezbollah.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I think it's not... I think that is by far the least likely that they're going to go back in there. There are basically two options. One, once all the hostages are exchanged, then they go back into Gaza. Okay? Or, I guess 1B, is to do the West Bank, which is already going on right now. Or two... What do you mean, do the West Bank?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
So his cadres, the people that will serve as—
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I mean, what are you doing there? What is the point of the operation? Do you know? To annex the territory and build developments. I mean, this is, this is, I mean, and you know, the unstated thing is that they'll either export these people or eliminate them. And so it's pretty terrifying stuff. It's not light stuff. This is not a light interview.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
And so the problem is the US is the military underwriter of this. The Israelis probably can't do this without us selling them weapons. And so while Americans are tuned out and not thinking about this kind of thing, our reputation overseas is one of arms dealer. And over time, that affects your children, being able to travel abroad, that affects America's reputation overseas. It's dicey stuff.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yeah. Right. Option two is Iran. Yep. Which is, I'll just quote the hardline perspective itself. It's the head of the snake in the conception of the Israeli hardline and also the neoconservative right in the United States. For sure. And so, Israel also can't... do Iran, in my view, and also in general assessments, without the help of the United States.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
It's usually joint U.S.-Israeli airstrikes, or even a solo invasion of Iran by the United States is the ultimate sort of fantasy.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yeah.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yeah, I mean, I think the available evidence is that he is like a, circa 10 years ago was a pretty conventional Republican. Yes. And he has changed his life in more ways than one.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I mean, I think there has... Could anyone from the State Department have done what Steve Witkoff did, do you think? No, especially without the president's... Of course not.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
So he is a question mark. But the early evidence is the people that he has chosen to surround himself are stark departures from the man from 10 years ago. And so that's a big deal. It is a big deal. Especially in a place like the Pentagon, which is hard to control.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
No, it's the same. I mean, international relations has been made into, they have to make it into like a pseudoscience. Exactly.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yeah, just like everything else.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yeah. And then, you know, it's the same thing of all of academia, which is like people's theses are increasingly more Baroque and like nobody actually knows large things like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, or at least... know it in a way that is applicable in power in real life.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
And I mean, maybe things are changing now, but like also a lot of the foreign policy establishment, it's different now in the second term, but wouldn't work with the first Trump term, wouldn't work with their team. And I think that was a discredit of the country. I think that just did not serve the country. Well, of course it didn't serve the country.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Millions.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
The Iranians backed proxies that killed U.S. troops in the Iraq War. Yeah, of course. But we shouldn't have done the Iraq War.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I think we have been moving towards one. And, you know, I think basically the biggest risk of a Democratic administration is a war with Russia. And the biggest risk of a Republican administration is a war with Iran. So my rule is always that's why it's more ethical to be a Republican, because at least the Iranians don't have nukes yet.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
So that's actually like pretty close to my first principle, like just outright. Well, you've simplified it, haven't you, Kurt? Yes, yes. But the Iran war would be still like the worst and like not something that we should pursue. And look, foreign policy experts at this point will chime in on this conversation being like, oh, well, that's just so unrealistic. That's not actually what we want.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
This is actually just a ridiculous externality. But I think it is worth noting that... We have done wars toppling governments throughout the region over the last 25 years. So number one, it's happened very recently. Number two, it is kind of the explicit goal of the hardliners. And the hardliners keep moving the overage window in their direction.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
And so while this is perhaps not 100% certain, hardly, there is a hard drive towards doing this and picking off Pentagon deputies and allowing leaders like Trump and Vance to be surrounded by hawks and no dissenting voices whatsoever. Yes. Is absolutely essential towards any road to war.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Well, there's precedent for this. So what you're just, I don't know. I don't know any of the people you just described personally.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Okay, so a lot of people are comparing Trump to Reagan these days. Yeah. And I think it is an inaccurate comparison, but there obviously are comparisons that are very different human beings, is basically my position. So if you accept that Trump is the biggest cheese since Reagan on the Republican side, what happened in the Reagan years?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
So the neoconservatives, that is people who came from the left and moved to the right, were very, very savvy conservatives. effective and reasonable at domestic policy. They were very, very good on the crime issues of the day. And their periodicals gained currency because, hey, actually we should clean up the streets of New York, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yeah. But by the 90s and 2000s, you know, if you believed in, you know, some crime enforcement in New York, you also had to believe towards the march towards regime change in Iraq. And so, again, I don't want to sound- I'm skipping that part of the buffet line.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yeah, I mean, he did not need to make these picks. I don't think he needed to make these picks to get confirmed. I don't think he needed these picks to win any senators. He is courting, I think, minor controversy now, which is why we're having this meeting. He did not need to do this. It was a move of conviction and belief and principle in his early days in office. So give us an example.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
But I think it is the essential pitch of this new generation of neoconservatism, which of course does not call itself that. But it is moderation on the social issues. Let's turn down the volume.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
And at the same time, over here in the column space over here, a little... little news item about what's going on in the Red Sea and why the U.S. needs to care. And it's a drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, and it can go on for months and years and years and years. And all of a sudden, we super care about the Houthis in Yemen. We super care about
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
iran and we have to underwrite a war in israel until every single member of hamas is dead and it's just not clear that the u.s international u.s national interest is there to put it lightly
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yeah.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Bill Kristol, the editor of the Weekly Standard.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
That was the absolute launching point magazine of the Iraq War.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I mean, probably the most successful political organizer of the last 30 years.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I think it makes it impossible for the new president to do what he's promised to do if he doesn't solve this conundrum. Tell me what you mean. So, I mean, if the president wants to send troops to the U.S.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
border, and the president wants to rebuild the American economy, and the president wants to focus on China, and the president wants the moral credibility to end the Russia-Ukraine war at some point, expanding the war in the Middle East, even with prolonged arms sales, his political capital. Who's going to pay for that? The United States.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Just give us an example of what you're talking about. Sure. There's going to be this Michael D'Amino figure who will have the Middle East portfolio. He has been advised throughout the process by another figure named Daniel Caldwell. These are both, you know, people in their 40s or 30s, you know, basically millennials who are veterans of the global war on terror.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Well, it's a very complex topic. We don't have any functioning community hospitals left. We have the reserve currency and we can keep writing debt until it causes an inflation crisis, which a lot of people thought would happen earlier and did not. And even our inflation crisis in the 2020s was mild by global standards.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
So accordingly, we've got plenty of room for the big enchilada, which is an Iran war.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Well, the big question is right now, so there's a new Iranian president. So the previous Iranian president died along with his foreign minister in a helicopter accident over the summer. A little mysterious. Are you going to use air quotes around accident or – I mean, a lot of things happened last year. It's very possible. I mean, I don't think... Everyone got killed last year.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
The Iranians' equipment, helicopter equipment, to my understanding, is old. And it is a rough part of the world. And it's possible that it... It's likely that it just went down. And again, I would say...
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yeah, yeah. And again, if you think it was Israel, the Israelis pretty much took credit or didn't deny all the other assassinations that occurred last year. I don't, you know. Leading of Hamas leadership, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yeah, so I guess maybe the 2025 zoom out, you would say there was an election in Iran right afterwards. Yes. A lot of people disagree with our perspective, will disagree with this term, but the more moderate candidate, people think there are no moderates within the regime, but the less hardcore candidate won. This is the first time this has happened since Trump left the Iran deal.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
They're very much in the... So they fought in that? Yeah, Dan did. And Michael was a CIA agent. So, yeah, these are the guys that were hunting down IRGC, Iranian Revolutionary Guard core people in the forever wars that Trump and Vance ran on reforming and ending, etc., etc. And so, you know, they're very much in the Vance mold of we went there. Not really sure what the point was.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
and this person uh it is not clear how much power he has within the system the supreme leader is old it's not clear how old um and there will be a succession crisis to succeed the supreme leader should he die yeah so it is this weird situation where every time iran is in a crisis and their crisis right now they're an electricity crisis by all reporting um again don't know if we can trust all the reporting but
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
They can't keep the lights on in Tehran fully. And what will they do? And so every time Iran is at a decision point, there is a fracas between what I will call the moderates and the hardliners within their government. The hardliners want to go for the bomb. They think, we can't trust anybody. We need to get the bomb.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
They also recently signed a defense pact, just short of mutual defense pact, but a security arrangement with the Russians. So they seem to have a bunker mentality right now. If U.S. intelligence or Israeli intelligence or Western intelligence assesses that they are going for the bomb in a real way,
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
so they can either be true or false, but if they assess it, then there will be severe pressure on the new administration to do airstrikes on Iranian nuclear. I get it.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I guess it occurred basically when the U.S. was still quasi-pro-Pakistan over India. That was a bad bet, by the way. It was a Nixonian bet, actually. He really didn't like Indira Gandhi. It was basically.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I'm not holding a Wang in my, so. But the point is. Might want to cut that. Yeah.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I didn't mean to make it personal. No, no. Well, no, no. It's just, at one point, the top salesman in the country of Wang computers.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yes. Is this actually going out? Of course it's actually going out. Are you kidding? Yeah. RIP. This is hard hitting.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
And we want to roll back from that somewhat. I think you might have heard this message from Mr. Trump at least once or twice in the last 10 years.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
That's all I'm saying. Yeah. No, I mean, so I think Trump should complete the work of his first term, which is he revoked the JCPOA, the Obama-Iran deal. Right. And he should do a Trump-Iran deal.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
uh there's he's sending wickoff over to do that yeah so so wickoff the aforementioned uh not only did what he did with the israelis he was promoted for it uh per reporting uh it has not been confirmed to my understanding by the transition or the white house um but per the ft and i believe another outlet wickoff is getting quote the iran file within the trump universe that's as much power as the president wants to give it but
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
As of filming, his role is expanding. And if Trump wants a lasting legacy of peace and prosperity, there needs to be an accommodation with
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yes. Yes. Yeah. I mean, I think, yeah, I mean, and this is actually something both Trump and Obama, who apparently get along now, at least perfunctorily, agreed on. Well, they both dislike Michelle, I think. So they, remember Obama on the debate stage in 08, said, and he was just howled down for this, whatever you think of Barack Obama, said, we should meet with the Iranian leaders Face to face.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
And Trump did similar maneuvers in the first term. Why wouldn't you? Yeah, with Kim Jong-un, et cetera, et cetera. And again— He's sucking up to dictators. Oh, shut up. I mean, was North Korea policy more stable from 2017 to 2021 or 2021 to 2025?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
No.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
To link it all.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
So we started this conversation with, you know, sort of the campaign against the cadres that are now serving Secretary Hexeth. The people that are leading it, as far as I can infer, are oftentimes many of the people that were behind the original Iraq War. Well, yeah. Yeah. This may seem obvious.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I think a lot of Americans assume that they did. So we do this for a living. No, they didn't.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
But most Americans have real jobs and don't know this. And so these people are disguised or shrouded from public view. And they are still quite effective at driving home an agenda. In fact, I would assume they will win absent pushback. Oh, they'll definitely win absent pushback. Oh, 100%. Yeah.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yeah, they're still hegemonic. And even if they're a minority government, so to speak.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yeah, I don't know her personally, but what I will say is the role of most Pentagon reporters has always struck me since I've done this as extremely hierarchical. I mean, it- What do you mean by hierarchical? It almost felt like the reporters worked for the Pentagon.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
So, I mean, in any place that I've worked that had a Pentagon correspondent. And that was the only way you stayed in the room. And- Isn't this a democracy thing?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I think it's fast moving. I mean, you didn't see criticisms or skepticisms of the military from the right until the very last few years, including from the new president, including from organs of conservative media. I think it started with Mark Milley, but also the sort of- Well, some of us were at it before that. I know, but in public opinion- It was considered a fringe position.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
How does this work? Yeah, I mean, I think that the tactics are pretty clear. So, No one reads anything. Fair. Everybody is cynical, confused. Says the magazine editor. Nobody reads anything. Are you right? Get a headline out there. Call someone a naughty word. Say they're anti-country or they are radical.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I think he overperformed his polling. He was insane. He was polling a certain... He was ahead, and the Bush family came in. That's when it was the last stand for Mr. Jeb in February of 2016. And George W. Bush campaigned finally for Jeb. And it was like, we've got to keep him in the race. We're going to make our stand. And he did... the big fat mistake that is Iraq debate.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
And I think Trump was up 10 or 15. I think he won by over 20 in that debate. Don't quote me on that, but it was something like that. It was right before the primary. It was over the polling. So like, not only did he not go down,
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
There's a cynical bet though, I would say, and it's a cynical bet on Trump, and it's a cynical bet on Americans, and it's a cynical bet on Republicans and independents. Let's use the actual language of center-left or left-wing media. It's a cult. And once the cult leader leaves, we can just go back to 2005 and implant the same old free trade, open borders, endless neoconservatism.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
And actually, the people that are driving the opposition to these selections in the Pentagon agree with President Trump's critics in spirit and in practice.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
No, I don't agree with the cynical bet. I think it's a bad bet. Yes. Which is why the tactics are increasingly hysterical.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
They won't say full-scale. They'll say that the Ayatollah has to go. It's very important to use as scary words as possible. Ayatollah, the Mullahs, the Islamic Republic emphasize, you know, and again, like...
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
basically the bin laden who's dead runs a country even though these different ethnicity and a different religion and so it doesn't really matter you're stupid and uh we need to do this again and like i they won't say an invasion but uh again some of the people pushing uh this stuff didn't say an invasion in 1996. they softened the ground for it.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
There wasn't a debate.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
If anyone sues this publication, it will take years and years and years and hope that some club member at Mar-a-Lago hands this to President Trump and tries to trick him and thinks that Mr. Trump is a stupid man. And this is the approach. And this is what they are trying to do. That's exactly. It is a cyclone. I mean, the word has been abused by the Democrats. They've done this to me. Yes.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Oh, so you're referring to— The Shiites. I just don't think as a rhetorical matter it's quite as easy— Should we address the actual allegation? Yes. So Wyckoff, I believe, took his real estate firm, took some sort of investment from Qatar. Okay. So first of all, I would say throughout the Trump entourage, a lot of them have worked with Gulf states.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
And as far as I can tell, the real estate business— is rife with investments from Gulf states. And then additionally, as far as I'm aware, this is hardly that man's net worth.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Well, with the Qatar argument specifically, I mean, I think it's an unusual place. It was supposed to be the 8th Emirate. So it is separate from the UAE. It is the most conservative of those Emirates, I would say, at least in terms of the government. They have a perspective. They spend money on media. They spend money on press junkets. They have an influence operation. No question.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Um, but the idea that this small jetting, uh, you know, uh, LNG dependent, uh, you know, uh, peninsula, uh, controls US foreign policy, hook, line, and sinker, top to bottom, um, If you think that, I don't think you're extremely curious.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yeah. Right. Okay. So. Yeah. But making the allegation, though, is a kind of armor, though. It makes you seem informed. It makes you seem like sort of a spymaster. You know, like, I know something you don't. I'm more serious, quote-unquote, than you. Everyone traffics in that nonsense. Yeah, yeah. Like, let's not have a conversation. And it's very anti-democratic, small d. Of course.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
It is not agreeing to disagree. It is not saying we have different values than, you know, shaking each other's hand and walking out of the room. It is... It is shutting down the spirit of the system.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
But it is, this is actual disinformation. Yes. I hate to use the word, but like.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I think a lot of it is effective in Republican politics. Yes. Because, you know, so you were there for the inauguration I observed a week ago. And, you know, I've always observed that... is usually when I meet someone from a red state, like a deep red state, Oklahoma or Alabama, it's often their first time in Washington, D.C. It's very like a Roman province visiting Rome for the first time.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Okay. I mean, I'm not familiar and I don't know any of the people over there personally, but the big story that's going around on both Domino and I believe Caldwell is from Jewish Insider. And again, no one really wants to be attacked by something called Jewish Insider. It doesn't sound very fun. And so they are running headlines against people.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Totally. I'm here from Gaul. Show me around. Yeah.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
uh versus uh i would say blue state america actually has a lot the coasts have a lot more familiarity with dc yes back and forth i think that's right et cetera et cetera so when they hear uh the argument going on in the capital there's actually a de facto trust um there that might be not as much there on the democratic side there's actually there's actually more
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
jaundiced cynicism of the democratic side. So it was less effective. They assume that the, despite it all, despite all of the failures that you've announced, that you've reported on fairly tirelessly, they assume that the people in DC know what they're doing. And I'm not sure that's the greatest default assumption.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I mean, look, respectfully to the president, I mean, Donald Trump, again, is the only U.S. president who was not a general or a former statewide official or federal official to get the presidency. And with all due respect to the new president, A healthy country doesn't elect something like that. It had that level of outsider.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
That level of outsider could only exist within a polity that was deeply sick. And I think he knows that. I think he recognizes that. And the fact that the Capitol doesn't imbibe that lesson, I think they're imbibing a little bit more, but it's like... I mean, it's still bizarre, 10 years on.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I mean, Trump, June 2015, so June this year, 10 years of Trump, longer than Obama at this point, the Trump era, in spirit, in length. It's like, well, maybe there's something wrong with this country, but it's like a 5% recognition. It's not a 95% recognition.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
It is an actual choice. It's an actual choice. We cannot do the border if we do the Middle East.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
and they're attacking them and they what they do is they don't say anything that is per se inaccurate but they totally strip the context for everything so what let's go one by one um do you know domino um just by correspondence okay um and what's yours is this a radical figure anti-american figure
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I agree. But it's very upsetting, not only to leaders of some foreign countries. And this is not just the Middle East. We didn't even talk about Russia, Ukraine. But like, I mean, that perspective is obviously very, very relevant for extricating the United States out of the Russia-Ukraine war. And almost every European capital is unhappy with that.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
And, you know, you can have a conversation with a nice Danish person and you might agree on immigration or trade or wine. But you mentioned like, hey, I'm not really sure the United States should be underwriting quagmire in Ukraine. And like the conversation shuts down. It is stunning.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Just shut up, okay? The Churchill thing is really essential. It's just played out. It's played out. I mean, it's played out in... But there's a gamble that some of this stuff isn't played out, though. I mean, there's a gamble that, I mean, I think people have, this country has a generational problem, right? Generations don't cut along. I think that's fair to say. For good reason. Yeah.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
And I think there's just a bet that a lot of the voters that made the decisions in the 90s and 2000s are dumb and don't care about their kids' future and will vote for the exact same thing. Clearly they don't. Yeah. Sorry. And will exert pressure on the new administration to do the same thing.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
And I think there's a bet that the president is a desperate cynical man who will do whatever it takes when he's pressured. And I think the early evidence is that it's untrue. I mean, I don't, I mean, the- The evidence is that Trump is less cynical than even his supporters thought he was.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I mean, do you want to discuss the Pompeo, Brian Hook stuff?
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Is that what the free press argued?
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
No, this is somebody who wants to pull back, I would say, moderately from the Middle East, which I think at this point is basically bipartisan outside of the radicals within Washington, D.C. and the Beltway.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yeah, I mean, details roll off. The government doesn't usually advertise it.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I think the interesting thing, so it's very easy to just glaze over Trump fighting with officials, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, and sort of the error example of this is Trump versus Bolton. And we can talk about that and it's fun, but it's kind of over, right? Bolton's not in the mix, or at least with Trump.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yeah, so... Pompeo and Hook. I mean, look. Tell us who they are. Yeah, so Mike Pompeo was the former Secretary of State, former CIA director, former Kansas congressman, former West Point valedictorian. Harvard graduate. Harvard law graduate. Ozempic user.
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Okay, right. And he was... I'm so bitchy.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
The Bolton-Trump feud is old. The disagreement with Pompeo is potentially quite new. And so, by all available information, Pompeo was in the mix for Secretary of Defense, most likely, in the days after the
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
election, so much so that his son, Donald Trump Jr., intervened in a sort of online campaign, and other allies within that milieu stopped both Pompeo and the former UN ambassador and South Carolinian governor, Nikki Haley, from getting administration posts.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
One of Pompeo's former deputies, Brian Hook, who ran something called the Iran Study Group and had various other portfolios and titles at the State Department. He's actually someone Pompeo inherited from Rex Tillerson, his predecessor. He kept him on.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
brian hook at uh various points throughout the transition in the last 100 days was reported to be running the state department's transition at some point then was rumored again rumors i don't i've just rumored i don't i don't post about it i don't tweet it out i don't write about it but it was rumored to have been fired very unclear uh
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Trump, in the days leading up to him taking the Oval Office oath, issued essentially an enormous denunciation, a fatwa against Mr. Hook, extraordinary, to say not only is this guy not in the mix, I hate him. And he said that. So that occurred. And then additionally, both Hook and Pompeo's security detail was removed in the last few days.
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He definitely has not served, Mr. Biden.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Not an expert on who gets Secret Service details. I can actually directly answer that. So the key thing here is that there is an allegation, a belief, many in the intelligence community believes this, that there were serious, credible plans by the Iranians to assassinate members of the Trump high command, as it were.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
So Trump, Hook, John Bolton, et cetera, et cetera, in revenge principally for the Soleimani assassination.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
The cause is belly for it.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I think the key thing here is the critique on Trump always was he fired Bolton, but he didn't really understand why. So he just, he soured on the guy, but he didn't change any like policy. You know, he didn't learn. This is the sort of pedantic way of looking at the president. But with The Hook and Pompeo,
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
removal from his inner circle uh there is i think very credible evidence that uh trump's personal grudges are now blending quite heavily with policy he doesn't trust the iran hawk old guard a lot of the iran hawk old guard think tanks struck out in getting uh transition officials and officials in this government and again circled around this very unlikely pentagon
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
helmed by a guy who has changed his life, it appears, in pretty severe ways over the last five years, both ideologically and morally, is this very new Pentagon that is now being targeted by all the usual suspects. And it is the biggest story in American politics that people aren't talking about.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
They are trying to make the reader jump to the conclusion that he is anti-Israeli, that he is pro-Iranian. He's pro-Iranian? Pro-Iranian. He is somehow pro-radical Islam. You know, he's pro all the scary people in the Middle East. Radical Islam. Sure. It doesn't really matter.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I mean, you control the Pentagon. You control the military.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Yeah. I mean, the Bolton firing itself is, again, ancient history, but it's circled around an issue of policy. Oh, I remember. Yeah. So, I mean, Trump had invited the Taliban, which was then the outlaw, not government of Afghanistan, as it is today, to Camp David. Yeah. On 9-11. I just love the sound of it. So Trump invited the Taliban to Camp David. He did. He literally did that.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I mean, I'm just reporting the facts here.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Bolton was wiped out before this meeting never happened, but it was the instigating... incident for the final breakdown of their relationship.
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It is. Very funny. A lot of this stuff is very funny. It is sort of funny.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Is that what you're seeing? No. I mean, if he sees this through, this is the biggest presidency, certainly since Reagan, you alluded to FDR. I mean, it is moving the ship of state and people are going to try to stop him from doing it. Yes. But they're not going to say that he's bad, though. They're going to go after... No one will ever say, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
readjusting expectations for what we can achieve. The reason that I started covering war on foreign policy principally is that the reality is that U.S. domestic policy is a morass. It's impossible to get anything done. Obama tried to do a healthcare plan. Six years in, they couldn't even get the website working. The country's hard to govern. But externally, the president is imperial. He's God.
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Quite literally the most powerful person on earth. And if you want to burnish a legacy real quick, you do big things in foreign policy. You do shocking things in foreign policy.
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not to my information okay um and again i think it bears repeating that this person like was responsible for the tracking of revolutionary guard corps members in iran potentially sent some of them to their death so the whole thing has an opera buffet flavor to it that he's being attacked as so what you're saying is these are people who will say anything it doesn't doesn't matter they're kind of from the very white school of journalism just like you have an objective uh something you want to achieve
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Well, he seems to have the authentic view that these people can afford it, especially with Fauci and especially with Bolton. He specifically flagged them. Yeah. And Pompeo, who's now running around being like, I'm actually a businessman. He's on a board of a Ukrainian company as well.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
Look, I mean, so the Pompeo thing is supremely interesting because, you know, I think it's somebody who probably would have positioned himself to run in a major way had Trump lost. I think it's somebody who's not going to quit being president. This is not an unintelligent man. Pompeo is smart.
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He's not dumb. No, I agree. This is a real fighter.
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um and uh i don't want to say he's part of the cynical bet crowd but he's making a bet that the trump thing will pass and i will be able to steamroll people like vance and even rubio in the future because i'm more vicious and um in the meantime uh you know maybe make some money uh influence the debate etc etc and he's very impressive if you don't know
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I mean, if you don't come in with huge foreign policy convictions, as I think you and I do, he can be very persuasive.
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I am. I mean, so I think that's what's very interesting about some of these Pentagon picks, not to keep linking it back, but also the vice president. A lot of these people, my generation, the millennials, fought in these wars. Oh, yeah. And although the baby boomers forget it, we're now old, you know, and we grew up and we're quite mad about it. And it's a bipartisan thing.
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It's not just like a Democrat, you know, anti-Iraq war, indie music thing. It's like young Republican people hate it too. Yeah. And they might hate it more, actually, which is actually the interesting thing. And the Republican Party, frankly, under Trump, might be a vessel of anti-war sentiment far more effectively than the Democrats. I mean, I didn't see a lot of protests for the Ukraine war.
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The Israel stuff was pretty interesting. That probably was the number one threat to Biden circa April. Remember that? For sure. But... you know, if you look at the conversation online, if you look at the sentiments of younger conservatives, younger Republicans, the anti-war stuff is big and it is not going anywhere.
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And I think that also drives a sense of a timetable, which is, you know, we've got these older people in their 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. They have a certain belief set. They're the people that voted for the stuff in the 90s and 2000s. And we get this stuff done now before the United States turns, you know, both parties on this stuff.
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They are very, very willing to destroy this person with absolutely no compunction.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
No, you can't do that anymore. I'm hoping people are zoned out. You do think that? Yeah, I think they're hoping the country's old, tired, zoned out, can't oppose it. And they're hoping that these initiatives can be achieved piecemeal. You know, start by bombing Iran here, et cetera, et cetera. Maybe the government will collapse, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
To take the other side, the Assad thing is pretty close to the best case scenario of how that could have gone. I think in Iran it would go way, way, way worse. It's a much bigger country.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
You start killing people and things go sideways. It's pretty close to Iraq and Afghanistan combined, right? It feels that way to me. You have the capacity for major urban violence a la Iraq. You have huge cities. The Kabul is small, but you have that. And then additionally, you have the mountain element. So any... any outlaw contingent can just flee there.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
I mean, and we learned this with our southern neighbor. Why is Mexico ungovernable? The mountains. You just flee. I mean, the entire coastline is... Why is Kentucky ungovernable? Same reason. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I mean, so... Just kidding. No, no. I mean, it's hard to... It would be very, very, very difficult. And ask Saddam Hussein, who tried to invade Iran and didn't work out for Mr. Hussein.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
None.
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
None. And in fact, there's evidence to the contrary, which he praises the country. Yeah. So, okay. He is critical of aspects of the war, right?
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Curt Mills: Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War, but He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why.
A lot of things didn't, so...
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Or to even state that it's not, in fact, our war, as the President of the United States just did on his inauguration day, emphasizing from behind the Resolute Desk that it's their war, not our war.
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Have you noticed this? Yeah, I mean, it's interesting that you raise some of these figures. We go into this all night. I'd like to.
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So, I mean, I think that they're hoping that Americans don't do the reading. They're hoping that Americans read X posts.
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They're hoping that Americans watch random cable news hosts, that they're zoned out and they hear, they have, you know, let's say they have a positive view of, you know, certain aspects of America's role in the Middle East, and they start tar and feathering people on the internet. and that there's no pushback on it. At the same time... But it's just, I guess the only reason
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This is the higher profile. I mean, they're hoping again that Trump has learned nothing. They insult the president's intelligence.
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Yeah.
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No, no, no, no, no. I mean, the Wyckoff thing in some ways is what set the whole thing off, right? Wyckoff?
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I think the Wyckoff thing surprised both sides, though, I would note. Why? I think, so obviously you knew him before, within recent years. Okay, so I think in general, the open source intelligence, to use a lame term, but like...
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i would say is that the hawks um people who want to say go all the way on iran uh did not expect wickoff to be uh so pragmatic and then additionally the realist and restraint camp also did not expect it did not ex all the all the reporting from say israeli media say haretz or times of israel that wickoff went in there and sort of um with both the incoming trump administration and you know the remnants of the about of the biden administration
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force Prime Minister Netanyahu into some sort of deal a deal that he had turned down six months ago in May of 2024 basically identical deal that threw most everybody in the loop for a loop and
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And that has set off, as far as I can infer, a climate of hysteria within Israel itself, at least among, I'm not sure, sir, Netanyahu himself, but at least within the factions of his cabinet that are hardline as hell.
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Everyone does an association. It's not a disagreement. I mean, like, this will not stop unless there's pushback.
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I think a lot of Israel was surprised by this. I mean, this was lost in the absolute cacophony of 2024. Really? But yes, like if you read, I read the Israeli press daily. And, you know, there were members of Netanyahu's coalition. So these are members of the Prime Minister Netanyahu, people who are not in his party, who are more hardline than him.
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I think it's unclear. So as of this recording 10 minutes ago, Mr. Hegseth, the defense secretary, was just confirmed on a 50-50 vote. Hegseth is an interesting character. I believe a former colleague of yours. Yes. He appears to have done a bit of a conversion on his foreign policy beliefs. And the best evidence of that is the people that he's picked so far.
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And they were saying, Trump's really talking about this endless war stuff. This might be a problem. And this was back in October and September and August. And no one was paying attention because it was Brad Summer and, you know, other things were going on. But this was coming. And the fact that they got it done, not even before, not even, during the transition itself, also surprised people.