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The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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Hi there, Charlie. So... First of all, this is an amazing data dump. This is the data for 3 million students going back to the late 1980s, and there's just a huge amount of information here.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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There's test scores, there's grades, there's extracurriculars, there's all sorts of information about where these kids are from and what their backgrounds are, and just all sorts of stuff that tells us how well qualified they'll be to do well when they're at NYU. And what we found is that NYU is really, really pushing down on Asian and white students, and they are boosting the practice.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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They're bringing in a lot more Hispanic and black students than would be justified from their GPAs, from their test scores, from anything we can see. Like, for example, Asian students, they tend to do a lot of extracurriculars. They do more than white students. They do more than Hispanic students. They do more than black students.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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Somehow, despite more extracurriculars, more impressive extracurriculars, more Olympiad wins, more basically everything that signals a good student, they get admitted way, way less than they should. And if they were admitting meritocratically to NYU, the number of Asians would double. The number of whites would go up by about a quarter. It would go from about 23 percent to about 30 percent.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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The number of Hispanics, we go from about 10% to roughly 1%. And the number of black students, we go from about 4% to about half a percent. So they're putting a really, really heavy hand on the scale here.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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Yeah, so the average black student who goes to NYU has an SAT score of 1289.87, so about 1290. The average Asian student who goes in has a score of about 1486. So there's a roughly 200-point gap between black and Asian students.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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It's interesting, though, if you look at the rejected students, rejected Asians have an average SAT score about 1382, which is still about 100 points higher than the average admitted black student.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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So even when they're rejecting lots of qualified Asian students, they're rejecting lots of qualified white students, their average rejected score is 1361, which is also higher than the accepted black average. It's higher than the accepted Hispanic average. They are just... They don't seem to be caring much about the qualifications of the students. They care a lot more about race.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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And to be fair, they said they were going to do this. Back when the Supreme Court made the decision, NYU immediately called it a step backwards. And then they said that they would be remaining committed to promoting diversity on campus, which is basically an admission. They were going to do exactly this. So they said it and they did it.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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Yeah, and there's some precedent for this. So a lot of schools have actually been breaking the law for a long time, even after they've been explicitly told to stop doing this on their own. So, for example, the University of Michigan was told back in the day that they should not be doing affirmative action. They were explicitly banned from it directly in a Gore case. And what did they do?

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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They still engaged in affirmative action. They... tried to claim that they were doing it through, for example, stepping up the recruitment efforts by recruiting people specifically in inner cities and whatnot. But the reality is that there is still no way to explain the results they got from what they did. So schools actively defy court orders. They believe that nobody's going to punish them.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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They think they're above the law. And it definitely seems like they are. There are not enough court cases being brought forward. And unfortunately, the administration hasn't compelled universities to release the data required to show that they're breaking the law.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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We're lucky that this hacker has jumped in and provided us with all the data we need to show, yes, they are definitely breaking the law. They are doing what they're not supposed to be doing. This is a rare insight.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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That is very remarkable. This is a very, very large difference. So this is the difference between, for example, being put in a remedial mathematics course in high school and being in an AP class. This is the difference between a doctor, like a medical doctor, your average medical doctor, and your average man on the street. This is the difference between...

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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My gosh, it's a massive, massive difference. It's a whole standard deviation. And when you have selection, meaning the university selects people who are talented enough to go there, you know, with their hand on the scale, when you have it, it reduces the variance more. So this difference becomes more magnified. This is actually closer to one and a half standard deviations.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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So it's like comparing... I really like a neurosurgeon to a man on the street. It's a very, very large difference. Everybody can kind of understand that that's pretty huge. And I think that that's just how it is. It's remarkable how large it is.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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Absolutely. So what this does is it makes it so, for example, you need to have remedial mathematics courses. You need to have courses that are simpler. You can't have rigorous organic chemistry classes. You can't have all of the difficult weeder classes because, well, they're just too hard for a lot of the students who are coming in. These students, they fail more often.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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They are more likely to just not do anything interesting during their time. They're less likely to have research experience. And yet they're favored all the way. They're favored in terms of getting admitted and they're favored in terms of getting picked up later. And they kind of...

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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So there's a pipeline from undergraduate admissions through to graduate admissions, through to medical school and all that. And by letting underqualified students in at these early stages, you also let them in at later stages, and that reverberates. So throughout society, we're going to see a lot of professionals who are underqualified everywhere.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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Because elite schools like New York University, like Northwestern, like Harvard, like Yale, they let in people who just shouldn't have made the cut or should have gone elsewhere until they go under the status of those universities, the degrees they get from there, up towards brighter horizons for them, but a bleaker future for the rest of us.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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We're going to have to end up with doctors who are less qualified to do their jobs. We're going to end up with researchers who are, you know, it's somewhat zero fund, zero sum of research money out there that they're going to divert funds from.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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smarter people better people who could have done a better job uh towards people who are less qualified and less capable of actually making a difference with that money the social implications of this are huge the implications on campus are huge you're going to see more protesters for example a lot of them are like underqualified people people who have a lot you know don't really value their time very much um the sorts of people who are more likely to be lazy in high school and so they didn't get as good grades as those asian kids who you know put in the work and should be there about you know twice the rate they are

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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It's there's really enormous implications here.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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They do, yes. They are more likely to get complaints against them by patients. They are more likely to be sued. They are more likely to have malpractice suits brought up. They are more likely to injure people. They're more likely to fail at surgeries. They are more likely to have a wide array of bad outcomes. And this is obviously bad. There is some need to have doctors who aren't super smart.

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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They can just prescribe antibiotics. But when it comes down to the specialties, when it comes down to the end-of-life stuff, like, oh, you need a critical surgery for your cancer, you need a critical surgery for fixing something in your brain, then you really want the best qualified people. And unfortunately, those prestigious programs, they love to pick people who are...

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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The term sounds insulting, but it's the reality. They are affirmative action candidates because they want to launder prestige towards these people. They want to take people who are not qualified for historically underrepresented, and they want to make them look considerably better. And that...

The Charlie Kirk Show

When Should Trump Say "No More" To the Courts?

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leads to massive millet misallocation that is arguably worse in the most important fields because those are the highest prestige fields and because the highest prestige fields are getting messed up the most the impacts are larger than you might expect uh from just a glance it could be pretty bad