Coco Kahn

Hi, this is Pod Save the UK. I'm Coco Khan.

Hi, this is Pod Save the UK. I'm Coco Khan.

Oh my God. Did you watch the inauguration?

Oh my God. Did you watch the inauguration?

It was... I'm going to use the word nightmarish, and I mean that genuinely, literally. As someone who's a vivid dreamer myself, it felt like figures from my subconscious coming back. You had all the thin-skinned bully boys who are now the most powerful men in the world. The Hamburglar was there, Melania Trump. You have to have these strange cartoon characters from your past.

It was... I'm going to use the word nightmarish, and I mean that genuinely, literally. As someone who's a vivid dreamer myself, it felt like figures from my subconscious coming back. You had all the thin-skinned bully boys who are now the most powerful men in the world. The Hamburglar was there, Melania Trump. You have to have these strange cartoon characters from your past.

And later, we'll be speaking to Green Party leader Carla Denya about what the new Trump presidency might mean for the climate emergency.

And later, we'll be speaking to Green Party leader Carla Denya about what the new Trump presidency might mean for the climate emergency.

The UK government has sought to restore its status as a climate leader on the world stage, but many environmental groups have argued that their plans are too narrow. Instead, they have been campaigning for a climate and nature bill, claiming it would have monumental implications for Britain's chances of slashing emissions and doing our part to help with the climate crisis.

The UK government has sought to restore its status as a climate leader on the world stage, but many environmental groups have argued that their plans are too narrow. Instead, they have been campaigning for a climate and nature bill, claiming it would have monumental implications for Britain's chances of slashing emissions and doing our part to help with the climate crisis.

I think most people can agree that the 4th of July election was a good election for progressives. And obviously you were part of that tide. So if you had to guess what consequences there might be for the Labour government with its progressive base for not being a bit more polite, but unfriendly or whatever language we want to use, what do you think consequences could be?

I think most people can agree that the 4th of July election was a good election for progressives. And obviously you were part of that tide. So if you had to guess what consequences there might be for the Labour government with its progressive base for not being a bit more polite, but unfriendly or whatever language we want to use, what do you think consequences could be?

You'll need Labour support for this bill, right?

You'll need Labour support for this bill, right?

So if I was a Labour spokesperson, which I'm not, but this is what I might say. I might say, thing is though, Carla, the people, what they really want in the minute is the cost of living to go down and they want a better quality of life. And the only way we're going to do that is to grow the economy and we need these runways to grow the economy. So we've got no choice.

So if I was a Labour spokesperson, which I'm not, but this is what I might say. I might say, thing is though, Carla, the people, what they really want in the minute is the cost of living to go down and they want a better quality of life. And the only way we're going to do that is to grow the economy and we need these runways to grow the economy. So we've got no choice.

What caused it? Homeless people?

What caused it? Homeless people?

And also with the California fires as well, the thing that I was really struck by is all those very expensive houses proves to you you cannot inoculate yourself in the climate crisis. It doesn't matter how rich you are. It doesn't matter. It's coming for you.

And also with the California fires as well, the thing that I was really struck by is all those very expensive houses proves to you you cannot inoculate yourself in the climate crisis. It doesn't matter how rich you are. It doesn't matter. It's coming for you.