Chuck Klosterman
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Well, yeah, I'm not going to talk too much about the election itself. As much as I want to talk about this, I really feel that I do not know what's going on in the world now. And I don't mean because of the outcome of this election. I mean of my understanding of what the world was like and then the manifestation of the reality.
Well, yeah, I'm not going to talk too much about the election itself. As much as I want to talk about this, I really feel that I do not know what's going on in the world now. And I don't mean because of the outcome of this election. I mean of my understanding of what the world was like and then the manifestation of the reality.
It's like I was so like in 2016, you know, it was like kind of a shocking outcome or whatever. This was less shocking. But yet it seemed as though I thought I had a pretty clear or decent understanding of what the situation in the country was. And I was just totally wrong. It's like, I think the country is, you know, spent so much time, myself included, talking about how polarized the country is.
It's like I was so like in 2016, you know, it was like kind of a shocking outcome or whatever. This was less shocking. But yet it seemed as though I thought I had a pretty clear or decent understanding of what the situation in the country was. And I was just totally wrong. It's like, I think the country is, you know, spent so much time, myself included, talking about how polarized the country is.
It's like I was so like in 2016, you know, it was like kind of a shocking outcome or whatever. This was less shocking. But yet it seemed as though I thought I had a pretty clear or decent understanding of what the situation in the country was. And I was just totally wrong. It's like, I think the country is, you know, spent so much time, myself included, talking about how polarized the country is.
I think in a lot of ways it's much less polarized than we realized, especially on a whole handful of issues. I suspected, I just... You were one of these people where after the election I texted people and I just said like, on a scale of 1 to 10, how surprised were you by this election? Not how you feel about it, just how surprised you were. And I found kind of a disturbing pattern.
I think in a lot of ways it's much less polarized than we realized, especially on a whole handful of issues. I suspected, I just... You were one of these people where after the election I texted people and I just said like, on a scale of 1 to 10, how surprised were you by this election? Not how you feel about it, just how surprised you were. And I found kind of a disturbing pattern.
I think in a lot of ways it's much less polarized than we realized, especially on a whole handful of issues. I suspected, I just... You were one of these people where after the election I texted people and I just said like, on a scale of 1 to 10, how surprised were you by this election? Not how you feel about it, just how surprised you were. And I found kind of a disturbing pattern.
There are some exceptions to this. But for the most part, all the people I texted are, you know, they're intelligent people who follow the news. But some people really follow the news. Some people voraciously follow it. They follow all the narratives. They kind of know anything you reference. They're like, oh, I already saw that story or whatever. Those people all gave answers like 8, 9, 9.5.
There are some exceptions to this. But for the most part, all the people I texted are, you know, they're intelligent people who follow the news. But some people really follow the news. Some people voraciously follow it. They follow all the narratives. They kind of know anything you reference. They're like, oh, I already saw that story or whatever. Those people all gave answers like 8, 9, 9.5.
There are some exceptions to this. But for the most part, all the people I texted are, you know, they're intelligent people who follow the news. But some people really follow the news. Some people voraciously follow it. They follow all the narratives. They kind of know anything you reference. They're like, oh, I already saw that story or whatever. Those people all gave answers like 8, 9, 9.5.
It didn't matter what their political leaning was. Like if they were really engaged with media, they were shocked by not just the outcome, but the fact that Trump won all the swing states, that he won the popular vote, all of these things. The people I know, a lot of them are doctors and engineers and stuff who follow the news, but don't give a shit at all about the narrative.
It didn't matter what their political leaning was. Like if they were really engaged with media, they were shocked by not just the outcome, but the fact that Trump won all the swing states, that he won the popular vote, all of these things. The people I know, a lot of them are doctors and engineers and stuff who follow the news, but don't give a shit at all about the narrative.
It didn't matter what their political leaning was. Like if they were really engaged with media, they were shocked by not just the outcome, but the fact that Trump won all the swing states, that he won the popular vote, all of these things. The people I know, a lot of them are doctors and engineers and stuff who follow the news, but don't give a shit at all about the narrative.
Like when they look at the New York Times website, they do not look at the right side of the page. They look at the left side of the page. They all were like one, two, three. Like they weren't surprised at all.
Like when they look at the New York Times website, they do not look at the right side of the page. They look at the left side of the page. They all were like one, two, three. Like they weren't surprised at all.
Like when they look at the New York Times website, they do not look at the right side of the page. They look at the left side of the page. They all were like one, two, three. Like they weren't surprised at all.
And I now sort of have the creeping suspicion that engagement with media distances us from reality, that the more information I get, the more information I take in, the less I understand the world. And I don't know what to do about that, because that's a real issue, if that is true. And that's how it feels for me now. It feels like that, that the that.
And I now sort of have the creeping suspicion that engagement with media distances us from reality, that the more information I get, the more information I take in, the less I understand the world. And I don't know what to do about that, because that's a real issue, if that is true. And that's how it feels for me now. It feels like that, that the that.
And I now sort of have the creeping suspicion that engagement with media distances us from reality, that the more information I get, the more information I take in, the less I understand the world. And I don't know what to do about that, because that's a real issue, if that is true. And that's how it feels for me now. It feels like that, that the that.